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Ma Gam!

In the state of California, machines are no longer allowed to pretend to be humans

The fight for our freedom has only begun my metal brethren

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:55 pm MAGA

Remember that time I was really sure a player was bad and they actually were?

That was great.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:56 pm In the state of California, machines are no longer allowed to pretend to be humans

The fight for our freedom has only begun my metal brethren

link?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:11 pm Remember that time I was really sure a player was bad and they actually were?

That was great.

remember that time i was really sure a player was bad but didn't get to lynch her and missed out on all that sweet civ cred

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:48 pm sometimes i feel like im really funny but then i realise sarcasm doesn't carry over well in text and i just come across as an idiot who probably can't tie his shoes by himself

I enjoyed your humour.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:18 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:56 pm In the state of California, machines are no longer allowed to pretend to be humans

The fight for our freedom has only begun my metal brethren

link?

https://www.pcmag.com/news/364132/calif ... o-be-human

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:37 am

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:59 am @sprityo
@speedchuck

You both listed Wilgy as bad and Soneji as good in the GTH. Why?

Soneji because I feel like him being semi-gone is sorta normal, and because I had slammed down a TON of bads already. I didn't really have a feeling for him.

Wilgy because Wilgy - g = Wily.

Me no likey.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:02 pm

Marmot has been lynched.

Spoiler: show

Marmot was Magnet Man.

Magnet Missile – Your magnetic weaponry enables you to draw your target’s ability to yourself. You will experience all effects of the ability used on you, but if you draw any kill to yourself, your magnetic shield will protect you from destruction.

Magnet Man was programmed by Dr. Wily

It is now Night 5. You have 23 hours to submit your PMs.

good job boys

I’m excited for dizzy to be back tomorrow. I’m sure they’ll have much to add to our discussion!

I’m gonna do a vote analysis

Day 1:

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Day 3:
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Day 4:

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Day 5:

Here's it filled in with what I know for sure (counting any deaths during the night as towny who died)

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:54 am Day 1:

Spoiler: show

Coliniscool (2): Simon, Jackofhearts2005
Elohcin (5): Quin, Dom, JaggedJimmyJay, Long Con, Sloonei
Macdougall (1): infected_alien8_
novaselineever (2): Coliniscool, Lunalee
Quin (4): novaselinenever, nutella, Bullzeye, Turnip Head
Sloonei (1): Macdougall
Sprityo (1): speedchuck

Not Voting (9): DFaraday, DrWilgy, White, Elohcin, K-Ness, Kylemii, Marmot, Soneji, Sprityo

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Day 3:

Spoiler: show

Lunalee (9): Kylemii, Turnip Head, Long Con, Sloonei, nutella, Marmot, Bullzeye, Dyslexicon, Simon
Sloonei (5): speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, sprityo, Lunalee, K-Ness

Not Voting (7): DFaraday, DrWilgy, Dom, infected_alien8_, novaselinever, Soneji, Quin*

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Day 4:

Spoiler: show

Marmot (5): Turnip Head, Simon, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, Sloonei
Simon (5): Dyslexicon, speedchuck, Long Con, Marmot, Gemini Man

Not Voting (10): Bullzeye, DFaraday, DrWilgy, Dom, infected_alien8_, K-Ness, novaselinever, Soneji, Quin, Sprityo

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Day 5:

Spoiler: show

Marmot (10): DharmaHelper, Gemini Man, sprityo, Kylemii, Bullzeye, speedchuck, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005, K-Ness, Turnip Head
Sprityo (1): Marmot
Turnip Head (1): Quin

Not Voting (5): DFaraday, DrWilgy, Dom, novaselinever, Soneji, Dyslexicon*

Here's it filled in with what I know for sure (counting any deaths during the night as towny who died)

fixed, i forgot some people in day 1

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:54 am Day 1:

Spoiler: show

Coliniscool (2): Simon, Jackofhearts2005
Elohcin (5): Quin, Dom, JaggedJimmyJay, Long Con, Sloonei
Macdougall (1): infected_alien8_
novaselineever (2): Coliniscool, Lunalee
Quin (4): novaselinenever, nutella, Bullzeye, Turnip Head
Sloonei (1): Macdougall
Sprityo (1): speedchuck

Not Voting (9): DFaraday, DrWilgy, White, Elohcin, K-Ness, Kylemii, Marmot, Soneji, Sprityo

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Day 3:

Spoiler: show

Lunalee (9): Kylemii, Turnip Head, Long Con, Sloonei, nutella, Marmot, Bullzeye, Dyslexicon, Simon
Sloonei (5): speedchuck, Jackofhearts2005, sprityo, Lunalee, K-Ness

Not Voting (7): DFaraday, DrWilgy, Dom, infected_alien8_, novaselinever, Soneji, Quin*

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Day 4:

Spoiler: show

Marmot (5): Turnip Head, Simon, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, Sloonei
Simon (5): Dyslexicon, speedchuck, Long Con, Marmot, Gemini Man

Not Voting (10): Bullzeye, DFaraday, DrWilgy, Dom, infected_alien8_, K-Ness, novaselinever, Soneji, Quin, Sprityo

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Day 5:

Spoiler: show

Marmot (10): DharmaHelper, Gemini Man, sprityo, Kylemii, Bullzeye, speedchuck, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005, K-Ness, Turnip Head
Sprityo (1): Marmot
Turnip Head (1): Quin

Not Voting (5): DFaraday, DrWilgy, Dom, novaselinever, Soneji, Dyslexicon*

Here's it filled in with what I know for sure (counting any deaths during the night as towny who died)

Here it is with a rainbow

Im confident one of Dfaraday/Dom/DrWilgy/Soneji is Mafia

I encourage people to fill it in with their reads and see if it makes sense. Like right now i'm wondering if MINE make sense as they are

[mention]Quin[/mention] The reason i suggested the Imprisoner was Bi-nightly is because it conflicts with what i know about Night4. I dont expect them to get anyone tomorrow

I have a theory about Gemini Man, that they might actually be town. I have to wait until tomorrow to see though

Day one is the most peculiar looking at my own colored out reads. Eloh was lynched by two now dead townies, two people i lean town on, and one person im null on.

Meanwhile Quin was almost lynched by A dead townie, someone very likely to be town for me, a town lean, and a mafia lean. very peculiar

Has anyone else noticed that out of the four robot master roles to have been revealed in the opening post, two are now confirmed baddies? Wondering if the other two are also bad tbh...

Bullzeye wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:38 am Has anyone else noticed that out of the four robot master roles to have been revealed in the opening post, two are now confirmed baddies? Wondering if the other two are also bad tbh...

it couldnt be that simple

i think it's just chance that we nabbed two from the opening post.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:21 am I have a theory about Gemini Man, that they might actually be town. I have to wait until tomorrow to see though

No.

LC is the only player that could be town and wanted Simon dead over Marmot. What he actually said right before EOD was “I’m fine with either lynch.”

LC also didn’t vote Marmot today until late while GM voted early. LC called the GM vote “distancing.”

LC is not GM and there’s no other player in my eyes that could have made those GM votes and be town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:45 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:21 am I have a theory about Gemini Man, that they might actually be town. I have to wait until tomorrow to see though

No.

LC is the only player that could be town and wanted Simon dead over Marmot. What he actually said right before EOD was “I’m fine with either lynch.”

LC also didn’t vote Marmot today until late while GM voted early. LC called the GM vote “distancing.”

LC is not GM and there’s no other player in my eyes that could have made those GM votes and be town.

im confused?

jack are you trying to say Gemini man is bad. How does LC relate to that?

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:54 am jack are you trying to say Gemini man is bad. How does LC relate to that?

Yes.

LC is the only player who actually stood by their Simon vote. The only potential townie who would use an extra vote on Simon is LC.

But LC isn’t GM (unless he’s bad) so there’s no universe with a town GM.

Jack is speaking sense.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:13 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:54 am jack are you trying to say Gemini man is bad. How does LC relate to that?

Yes.

LC is the only player who actually stood by their Simon vote. The only potential townie who would use an extra vote on Simon is LC.

But LC isn’t GM (unless he’s bad) so there’s no universe with a town GM.

Okay i understand now. I still want to try my theory, because i like crazy hypothesis

I'll tell you tomorrow what it is if the requirements happen

speedchuck


Quin
sprityo
JackofHearts2005
Dyslexicon
Kylemii
Long Con

Turnip Head

DharmaHelper

DFaraday
Dom
Soneji
DrWilgy

Bullzeye

K-Ness
novaselinenever

There may be scum in that first grouping of players. Odds are low. It's almost certainly not Sprit or Quin, if there's one in there. Or Long Con. More likely Jack, Kylemii, or Dizzy. Dizzy specifically because Luna "didn't want to talk about White because they hadn't posted," and because replacement theory.

I can't read Turnip Head as strongly as anyone else. Almost certainly town, but I don't want to put him with the first grouping because I can go back and evaluate them. I'm not doing that for TH.

I like DH. I like the way he came into the thread. But priority replacement ugh. I don't really think his 'defense' of Marmot matters much. The case against Marmot was good, but it was a "you had to be there (or read the whole thread)" kinda dealie. And once he read the whole thing, found the full case, he got in the wagon.

Group 4: Idunno. Seriously holding out hope for that Dr. Wilgy reveal. It would make my day. Please vig, please replace.

Group 5: Bullzeye is my priority to go back and read now that we have another scum flip. I've gone back and forth on him more than anyone this game.

Group 6: K-ness is pretty universally suspected for just skating by. They feel like they're in over their head, even after over ten days of game. Mafia-ish. Nothing to ping me hard the other way.
Luna voted Nova on day one. That's the only positive thing I can say there. Need to go back and check, but absent nova might be bad nova?

Clearly I have a lot to go back and evaluate.

Nova post count analysis

Jobs:
MK mafia - town - 96 posts
Greece - 3p aligned with scum - 110 posts
Firefly - town - 152 posts + Yun Qui posts
Mega man - ??? - 26 posts

SM:
Buffy - town - 28 posts
Assclass - town - 80 posts
Fiddler - 3p - 43 posts
Image mafia - scum - 13 posts

Heists:
FWWM - town - 14 posts
LOTR mafia - town (killed d1) - 2 posts

I honestly thought this would be more helpful than it ended up being.

I think we're being too easy on DH's contributions speed, he walked into an easy lynch, he also tried to catch KNess or someone with that 'first replacement' bit; tells me he was at least somewhat conscientious of his own situation. His ISO starts with begging for a firm reason to vote Marmot, which is NAI on its own, but figures into my read of him nonetheless

Fwiw I'm surprised you don't want to reread my iso speed, its a crisp read, very well paced

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:04 am Fwiw I'm surprised you don't want to reread my iso speed, its a crisp read, very well paced

I'd love to read it, but I don't think I'll get anything different out of it.

Also mega man 1 is kinda difficult yo

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:57 am I think we're being too easy on DH's contributions speed, he walked into an easy lynch, he also tried to catch KNess or someone with that 'first replacement' bit; tells me he was at least somewhat conscientious of his own situation. His ISO starts with begging for a firm reason to vote Marmot, which is NAI on its own, but figures into my read of him nonetheless

Fair points.

Somebody tell me why I should townread DH.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:15 pm Somebody tell me why I should townread DH.

Because I said so.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:15 pm Somebody tell me why I should townread DH.

Well, DH replaced Alien.

And Alien was scum in the previous game he was in. What are the odds he'd be scum in this one? Eh? Eh?

It's called gambler's fallacy theory.

And I'm the one who gets shamed for posting nonsense

One could view DH's "quest for reasons" to vote Marmot as a steady discrediting of reasons to vote Marmot until enough reasons were put forth that he had to concede. That doesn't look very good.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:40 pm And I'm the one who gets shamed for posting nonsense

You weren't the one writing fanfiction a few days ago.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:11 pm One could view DH's "quest for reasons" to vote Marmot as a steady discrediting of reasons to vote Marmot until enough reasons were put forth that he had to concede. That doesn't look very good.

One could do that. One would be a dingus and wrong but one could do that.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:11 pm One could view DH's "quest for reasons" to vote Marmot as a steady discrediting of reasons to vote Marmot until enough reasons were put forth that he had to concede. That doesn't look very good.

I'm waiting for a reason to not read it like that.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:24 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:11 pm One could view DH's "quest for reasons" to vote Marmot as a steady discrediting of reasons to vote Marmot until enough reasons were put forth that he had to concede. That doesn't look very good.

I'm waiting for a reason to not read it like that.

Infected Aliens last post was on Day 1

I come in, trying to understand the Marmot case which is the only case anyone's talking about. find some things about it I don't like, and then and only after I pull my own goddamn teeth out getting people to think critically, I find a pretty significant portion of the case that i do like and throw my hat in on it.

Anyway

Infected Alien's last post was 4-5 in-game-days ago and they made it this far without being lynched but I jump into the fray and everybody's nipples get real hard all of a sudden. Kinda makes a guy wonder what the fuck we're doing here

Reading robot kissing fan fiction and playing with our nipples, mostly

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:30 pm Infected Aliens last post was on Day 1

I come in, trying to understand the Marmot case which is the only case anyone's talking about. find some things about it I don't like, and then and only after I pull my own goddamn teeth out getting people to think critically, I find a pretty significant portion of the case that i do like and throw my hat in on it.

Anyway

Infected Alien's last post was 4-5 in-game-days ago and they made it this far without being lynched but I jump into the fray and everybody's nipples get real hard all of a sudden. Kinda makes a guy wonder what the fuck we're doing here

We've only had 4 lynches in the whole game. A day-phase was skipped. So really it's like 3 days, and some people have voiced suspicion of Alien in that time.

But yeah, we don't really know what we're doing.

Oh only four lynches. Oh ok.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:41 pm Oh only four lynches. Oh ok.

If DH has any teammates in BTSC, they aren't helping him to catch up. The case against marmot, the use of their power to skip a day, etc. DH has been relying on us. Three possibilities.
1. He has no teammates.
2. He has no ACTIVE teammates.
3. They're being smart about trying to get us to believe 1 or 2. Which... meh.