The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:29 pm Okay yeah DDL handled that response

I've been having trouble focusing on the game and forgot completely about ddl's case, but I will give it subconscious credit at least.

It wasn't sarcasm though, I was legit considering that as a possibility of you being bad.

Though you don't seem like the type to try to argue that kind of thing.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:29 pm Okay yeah DDL handled that response

I've been having trouble focusing on the game and forgot completely about ddl's case, but I will give it subconscious credit at least.

You've been right about Rej and Sloonei so far. I'd say you've been very focused

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:24 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:29 pm Okay yeah DDL handled that response

I've been having trouble focusing on the game and forgot completely about ddl's case, but I will give it subconscious credit at least.

You've been right about Rej and Sloonei so far. I'd say you've been very focused

Psh. I appreciate the compliment (Or suspicion, whichever), but I consider myself partly responsible for the Colin lynch too.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:24 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:29 pm Okay yeah DDL handled that response

I've been having trouble focusing on the game and forgot completely about ddl's case, but I will give it subconscious credit at least.

You've been right about Rej and Sloonei so far. I'd say you've been very focused

Yeah, Speed is probably mafia cause how would he learn to catch scum since he’s always mafia?

Haha yeah

[mention]novaselinenever[/mention] Wanna dial the end of night back a couple of hours?

Not sure if you guys are serious, but I hope not. :P

Lol whatever idk who the wolves are.

I guess it’s between LC, Sig, TH AND MAYBE Speedchuck.

I was planning on just voting Dunya and seeing how things went from there but now that’s shot.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:11 pm I guess it’s between LC, Sig, TH AND MAYBE Speedchuck.

I was planning on just voting Dunya and seeing how things went from there but now that’s shot.

I know this is ironic but it's still salad.

I was also going to vote Dunya. Guess I telegraphed that too hard.

Would you mind explaining, in show, what 'clears' the non-salad players for you?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:11 pm I guess it’s between LC, Sig, TH AND MAYBE Speedchuck.

I was planning on just voting Dunya and seeing how things went from there but now that’s shot.

Time to dig into some ISO's. I guess it's good that you don't have to waste your vote on dunya anymore?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:11 pm I guess it’s between LC, Sig, TH AND MAYBE Speedchuck.

I was planning on just voting Dunya and seeing how things went from there but now that’s shot.

I know this is ironic but it's still salad.

AAAAHHH it's such a perfect salad.

I was also going to vote Dunya. Guess I telegraphed that too hard.

Shouldn't that have helped keep her alive?

Speed is so bad.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:39 pm Shouldn't that have helped keep her alive?

Actually that's a good point.

1. sig
2. Rej -- [Avon Barksdale] -- Lynched D2
3. Zemmi / Turnip Head
4. JaggedJimmyJay / Sloonei -- [D'Angelo Barksdale] -- Lynched D4
5. Nutella -- [Clay Davis] -- Killed N2
6. Dunya -- [Bill Rawls] -- Killed N4
7. Dom -- [Kima] -- Killed N1
8. Long Con
9. TonyStarkPrime -- [Lester Freamon] -- Lynched D2
10. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
11. Creature
12. Boo -- [Cedric Daniels] -- Killed N3
13. Macdougall -- [Herc] -- Killed N1
14. Dragon D. Luffy
15. Coliniscool -- [The Bunk] -- Lynched D3
16. Speedchuck
17. Jackofhearts2005
18. Dragomir -- [Prez] -- Lynched D1

Do you see the pattern?

The town list is in some random mindscrew order, but the scum are 2 and 4, while the town are all higher numbers. It must be ordered by alignment! Sig and TH, place your votes now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:11 pm I guess it’s between LC, Sig, TH AND MAYBE Speedchuck.

I was planning on just voting Dunya and seeing how things went from there but now that’s shot.

I know this is ironic but it's still salad.

I was also going to vote Dunya. Guess I telegraphed that too hard.

Would you mind explaining, in show, what 'clears' the non-salad players for you?

Okay.

I'm clearing Nanook for the Colin/Sloonei POE. Creature for volume/tone on D3 given his meta. DDL for generally feeling pure and townDDLish and also for being on Rej early and often.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:11 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:11 pm I guess it’s between LC, Sig, TH AND MAYBE Speedchuck.

I was planning on just voting Dunya and seeing how things went from there but now that’s shot.

I know this is ironic but it's still salad.

I was also going to vote Dunya. Guess I telegraphed that too hard.

Would you mind explaining, in show, what 'clears' the non-salad players for you?

Okay.

I'm clearing Nanook for the Colin/Sloonei POE. Creature for volume/tone on D3 given his meta. DDL for generally feeling pure and townDDLish and also for being on Rej early and often.

Thanks. I have less to go on with Creature, less experience with his meta, but I can roll with those.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:05 am 1. sig
2. Rej -- [Avon Barksdale] -- Lynched D2
3. Zemmi / Turnip Head
4. JaggedJimmyJay / Sloonei -- [D'Angelo Barksdale] -- Lynched D4
5. Nutella -- [Clay Davis] -- Killed N2
6. Dunya -- [Bill Rawls] -- Killed N4
7. Dom -- [Kima] -- Killed N1
8. Long Con
9. TonyStarkPrime -- [Lester Freamon] -- Lynched D2
10. NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
11. Creature
12. Boo -- [Cedric Daniels] -- Killed N3
13. Macdougall -- [Herc] -- Killed N1
14. Dragon D. Luffy
15. Coliniscool -- [The Bunk] -- Lynched D3
16. Speedchuck
17. Jackofhearts2005
18. Dragomir -- [Prez] -- Lynched D1

Do you see the pattern?

The town list is in some random mindscrew order, but the scum are 2 and 4, while the town are all higher numbers. It must be ordered by alignment! Sig and TH, place your votes now.

Gottem.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:13 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:11 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:36 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:11 pm I guess it’s between LC, Sig, TH AND MAYBE Speedchuck.

I was planning on just voting Dunya and seeing how things went from there but now that’s shot.

I know this is ironic but it's still salad.

I was also going to vote Dunya. Guess I telegraphed that too hard.

Would you mind explaining, in show, what 'clears' the non-salad players for you?

Okay.

I'm clearing Nanook for the Colin/Sloonei POE. Creature for volume/tone on D3 given his meta. DDL for generally feeling pure and townDDLish and also for being on Rej early and often.

Thanks. I have less to go on with Creature, less experience with his meta, but I can roll with those.

A better way to read my POE is "I've cleared 3 players and I kinda think Speedchuck is town." Here's everybody else and I'm not entirely clearing Speed.

It just sounded funnier as a salad.

Can anyone else verify Jack's meta thing on Creature?

linki: Naw, I gotcha. I even chuckled when I saw it. I just want things verified, and it's going to be hard to find time to do it myself.

That feeling when jack and speed are scum together

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:05 amThe town list is in some random mindscrew order, but the scum are 2 and 4, while the town are all higher numbers. It must be ordered by alignment! Sig and TH, place your votes now.

Remember when I said I had an angleshooting possibility earlier in the game? I was thinking that the last players in the list might be the baddies. That was debunked, but now...

It's really nice that sig and TH were already main suspects before this came up. Thank you, Jack.

Technicolor Vote Analysis (aka that thing I copied from G-Man a few years ago)

Note: votes were tallied using aubergines. I'm not bothering to check every post to see if anyone sneaked an aubergine-less vote in them. I did, however, doublecheck the final votes with the poll results, so at least the ones that remained unchanged until the end of the day are guaranteed to be right.

Day 1

Dom
Creature - sig
MacDougall
Creature
Speedchuck
Nutella
Jack
Creature - LC
Dunya
JJJ
Speedchuck - Macdougall
DDL
Rej
Jack
Sloonei
Dom - Jack
Rej
Dunya
Long Con
DDL
Jack
Speedchuck
Nanook - dunya
Boo - colin
Sig - Nanook
Nanook
Sloonei - Boo
Colin
Sloonei
Boo
Nutella

KEY:

Dom
Dragomir
Rej
Nutella
DDL
Speedchuck
Others

Corrections:

[mention]Dragomir[/mention] never called his votes. We know he made a vote for Rej in the middle of day 1. Based on his and Rej's posts, it happened somewhere around Jack's vote to Rej and Rej's vote to Drago. The fact we can't know for sure whether Sloonei joined the DDL wagon before or after the Rej wagon gained a third vote makes me want to facepalm. Bad Drago.

Sig called a vote on nanook, but did not aubergine. Bad Sig!

I just realized doing this for Day 2 will be insane and I should have thought that in advance.

Let's talk about Day 1 first.

Creature made an early vote for Sig, then was the 2nd vote on Drago, but later changed that to LC. All of his votes were early in the day.

LC was the first vote on Dom (besides dunya who had changed away). He never changed from it.

Speed was the 2nd vote on the early nutella wagon. Not ong after, he dropped it and went for a lone Mac vote. Later on, he decided to be the 2nd vote on Rej (aside from Jack who had changed from it). He did not change his vote again.

Nanook voted Sig. Then he went and became the 4th vote on Dom.

Sig voted for Nanook later in the phase. I didn't see if he voted for anyone before since he doesn't use aubergines.

Jack was the 3rd vote on nutella, then the 2nd vote on Rej, then the 3rd vote on Dom.

DDL was the 1st vote on Rej, then later became the 2nd vote on Dom.

Zemmi (aka TH) was not active at this point.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:02 pm Any takers on Long Con?

I'm doing my catch up and I noticed this post right when people were in the middle oy lynching Sloonei/Rej, about 2 hours before EoD.

Yeah.

Day 2

It seems I'll have to do this one manually. Time to skim 700+ posts. Fml.

Sloonei
Dunya
Dunya DDL
Boo
Sloonei
Boo LC
nutella
nutella
Nanook
Speedchuck
Speedchuck
Long Con
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime nutella
TonyStarkPrime
Jack
Jack dunya
DDL
DDL
DDL
Dunya DDL
Dunya nutella
Long Con
Long Con
DDL Sig
Boo
Boo
Speed
Speed
Creature
Sloonei
Sloonei
Nanook
Rej
Rej
Sloonei
Sloonei
Nutella
Nutella
Long Con
Long Con
DDL Sig
DDL
dunya nutella
dunya
Jack dunya
Jack
Sloonei
Sloonei LC
Long Con
Long Con
TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime ???
TonyStarkPrime
Rej
Rej
Boo LC
Boo
nutella
nutella
DDL
DDL Sig
Colin
Colin
nutella
nutella
Sig
Sig
Nanook
Nanook
dunya
dunya
Sloonei LC
sloonei
DDL Sig
DDL
Boo
Boo
nutella
nutella
nutella
nutella
Colin
Colin

KEY

Rej
TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei
Colin
Boo
Jack
Speedchuck
Zemmi
Other

Striked voted mean removed votes.

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] voted for two players near the start of the phase, and called neither. We know one of them is nutella because he declared changing it to Rej. We don't know who the other one is, but he presumably stayed on them for the whole day before changing it to Colin. Bad TSP for making my life hard. Please DON'T post to correct this, TSP.

What am I looking at

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:44 am What am I looking at

The name of the person is who made the vote

The color is who they voted for.

If it's white it will have a second name in front of them, which is who they voted for.

In case of Day 2, the strike means they unvoted for that person.

Day 2 Analysis:

Creature came here near the end, made a gazillion posts and dropped the 4th vote on Sloonei. No other votes.

LC voted for Sloonei (2nd vote) and Zemmi (3rd vote). Changed the Zemmi vote to Boo (3rd). Changed from Boo to TSP (4th). Changed from TSP to Jack (3rd). Never chaged from Sloonei.

Nanook voted for Zemmi (2nd). Later on he put his second vote on Sloonei (5th). Then changed his Zemmi vote to Colin (4th).

Speed voted for Rej (2nd) and Jack (1st). Then he changed his Jack vote to TSP (1st)

Jack voted for Rej (4th) and dunya (1st). Then he changed his dunya vote to Colin (2nd)

Sig just came later in the phase, dropped his votes on Rej and Sloonei, and left. Sig is the MVP of Day 2, hands down. Or the busser of the year.

DDL voted for Boo (3rd vote). Changed it to Rej (5th vote). Finally made my second vote, to Sig (1st vote). Changed the Sig vote to Jack (2nd vote). Changed the Jack vote back to Sig (still 1st vote). Changed the Sig vote to TSP (6th vote).

Zemmi wasn't active on Day 2.

Just to add since I forgot: Sig's Rej vote was the 5th one, and his Sloonei one was also the 5th one.

I'll do Days 3 and 4 once I regain my sanity.

Another minor correction: it was not Day 2 where creature made a number of posts. It was Day 3.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:44 am What am I looking at

I almost threw out a couple player lists with people colored random different colors until I realized that wasn’t what we were doing.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:20 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:44 am What am I looking at

I almost threw out a couple player lists with people colored random different colors until I realized that wasn’t what we were doing.

The goal is to describe every instance of bussing that must have happened in order for Person X to be bad.

As well as give some light to cases of teammate saving.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:54 am It's really nice that sig and TH were already main suspects before this came up. Thank you, Jack.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:54 am It's really nice that sig and TH were already main suspects before this came up. Thank you, Jack.

Since when?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:05 am Sig just came later in the phase, dropped his votes on Rej and Sloonei, and left. Sig is the MVP of Day 2, hands down. Or the busser of the year.

Thank you.

Speed, TH, and LC are the three we should be eyeing at the moment.

Potentially Nanook as well I don't like that he's still alive or his LC save, assuming LC is also bad.

Now you can say well he went after Sloonie, yeah he did but bussing is a thing people do.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:06 pm Speed, TH, and LC are the three we should be eyeing at the moment.

Potentially Nanook as well I don't like that he's still alive or his LC save, assuming LC is also bad.

Now you can say well he went after Sloonie, yeah he did but bussing is a thing people do.

It’s a thing I pretty rarely do

But yes please continue to tell me how me being better than you at finding scum must make me scum

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:54 am It's really nice that sig and TH were already main suspects before this came up. Thank you, Jack.

Since when?

It’s a joke.

I threw out a poe that included the two of you in the form of a salad as a joke (the salad, not the poe). We talked about why that poe and it’s not that I even suspect the players that much but thatI’ve cleared the other 3 players.

Then Speed notices that Sloonei and Rej are at the top of the player list. The player list isn’t in alphabetical order. He jokingly says that you and TH have to be wolves because the player list is in role order with the wolves all at the top.

So LC is joking that we never would have figured out Speed’s (joke) solve that you two are mafia if I hadn’t first put “strong suspicion” on you two by putting you in my POE.

Gonna change my undertitle to “explainer of jokes.”

You guys wouldn’t believe how often players think I’m claiming my role is that I cannot be lynched.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:20 pm But yes please continue to tell me how me being better than you at finding scum must make me scum

We shall be lynching speedchuck today. You are proud of catching scum. Speedchuck seems almost ashamed of it.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 12:06 pm Speed, TH, and LC are the three we should be eyeing at the moment.

Potentially Nanook as well I don't like that he's still alive or his LC save, assuming LC is also bad.

Now you can say well he went after Sloonie, yeah he did but bussing is a thing people do.

My analysis is not done yet but I think the conclusion will be that everybody bussed.

This key ain’t working for me. Fixed it kinda.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:46 am
Day 1

Dom votes Nutella
Creature - sig
MacDougall votes Drago
Creature votes Drago
Speedchuck votes Nutella
Nutella votes Speedchuck
Jack votes Nutella
Creature - LC
Dunya votes Dom
JJJ votes Speedchuck
Speedchuck - Macdougall
DDL votes Rej
Rej votes DDL
Jack votes Rej
Sloonei votes DDL
Dom - Jack
Rej voted Drago
Dunya votes DDL
Long Con votes Dom
DDL votes Dom
Jack votes Dom
Speedchuck votes Rej
Nanook - dunya
Boo - colin
Sig - Nanook
Nanook votes Dom
Sloonei - Boo
Colin votes Dom
Sloonei votes Drag
Boo votes Drago
Nutella votes Drago

KEY:

Dom
Dragomir
Rej
Nutella
DDL
Speedchuck
Others

Corrections:

@Dragomir never called his votes. We know he made a vote for Rej in the middle of day 1. Based on his and Rej's posts, it happened somewhere around Jack's vote to Rej and Rej's vote to Drago. The fact we can't know for sure whether Sloonei joined the DDL wagon before or after the Rej wagon gained a third vote makes me want to facepalm. Bad Drago.

Sig called a vote on nanook, but did not aubergine. Bad Sig!

Sloonei was never in danger of being lynched.

Rej has 3 votes (Jack, DDL, Drago) at one point, competing with wagons on Drago Mac, Rej) and DDL (Rej, Sloonei, Dunya) and Speedchuck (Jay, Nutella.)

Day 3

Sloonei
speedchuck
DDL
TH
Jack
Nanook
Creature
Boo
dunya
Colin
DDL
TH
dunya
Sig
DDL
Creature
DDL
DDL
Creature
Long Con
Jack
Speed
Sloonei
Sloonei
Sloonei
Boo
Speed
Creature
Sloonei
Long Con
Nanook

KEY

Colin
Sloonei
Long Con
Jack
Sig
Creature
Speedchuck
dunya