The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:30 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:28 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:26 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:22 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:21 pm I forgot about this.

It's just a remark at how much players talk about mafia theory but fail to put them in practice.
Hey Creature, I'd appreciate if you could just quickly state your perspective of Mac's legacy POE
I'm finding it hard Mac got 0/4 in that list and was nightkilled anyway, unless Marmot is wolf. So I'm inclined to believe there's a wolf within DrWilgy/Dyslexicon/Marmot.
Would you say it is typical of you to place an emphasis on a night kill legacy?

I know MacDougall is fairly good enough to put faith on hia reads. That would've been slightly different if someone like Marmot was nightkilled instead.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:31 pm**

i don’t think she’ll respond to you @Boquise because she’s in UK

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:32 pm**

or something, clearly eu timezone

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm**

wait, how bad is ur sleep schedule you swede @Boquise

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:31 pm i don’t think she’ll respond to you @Boquise because she’s in UK

It’s only 10:30 in the UK

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm**

[VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:22 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:00 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:59 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
This may or may not be a good idea.

And a Wilgy/Creature vote may be safer
wtf I'm not a valid vote for today

You asked earlier what the case for Fingersplints was and I quoted Alison's ISO case for you. Did you see it?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm**

Who are our townreads?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:37 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:16 pm @JaggedJimmyJay I'm only on page 15. I found Alison's reasons for reading Falcon and Lucy town and Rondo wolf to be weird and cherry picky. Continuing the reading...

Also, if you know of semi recent Wilgy town or wolf games at the top of your mind, can you name some?

Lost in Space (hustle) and Team Fortress 2 (job I think) are recent Wilgy town games. Idk any Wilgy scum games. He also might have other more recent town games that I wasn't a part of (unless you know, you want to get all solipsistic on me and suggest that nothing outside of myself actually exists).

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:37 pm**

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:22 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:00 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 4:59 pm [VOTE: Alison] aubergine
This may or may not be a good idea.

And a Wilgy/Creature vote may be safer
wtf I'm not a valid vote for today
You asked earlier what the case for Fingersplints was and I quoted Alison's ISO case for you. Did you see it?

Yes, but didn't read. Might consider.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:38 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:24 pm @Dyslexicon a recent Wilgy scum game: Backyard Baseball

Well, that's a short ISO.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:39 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:27 pmIt has already been settled I was towny EOD1. Any attempt to put me back on the table strikes as wolf trying to keep options open.

I have not read EOD1. I'm also not actually pushing you much. But I'm not going to get into this any more rn.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:40 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:36 pm [VOTE: EnderWiggin] aubergine

Day 2 content strikes me as low in nuance and kinda going through the motions. Not thrilled with his votes today.

ISO link

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:41 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:31 pm i don’t think she’ll respond to you @Boquise because she’s in UK
It’s only 10:30 in the UK

I'm thinking about voting you.

Do you think the heat/pressure/votes you've gotten is justified, or no?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm**

@EnderWiggin Your vote/sus on Fingers coupled with your vote on me later, when we both didn't participate in thread, kind of sucks majorly tbh. True or not?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm**

Lucy, are you planning to vote for someone other than Paradoxical Undressing?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:44 pm**

General concern about Ender:

Voted Nate, then lucy, then Marmot -- two of whom have been viable wagons (the latter two) and one that probably could be (Nate) -- also verbally accepted a fingersplints wagon. I'm not sure this man cares about the roof.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:45 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:44 pmI'm not sure this man cares about the roof.

This reference is way too old, what am I doing. @DrWilgy @Marmot @fingersplints you're my only hope

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:46 pm**

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm Lucy, are you planning to vote for someone other than Paradoxical Undressing?

possibly zeno’s paradox

i haven’t given too much thought, Ender seems fun

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:46 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:44 pmI'm not sure this man cares about the roof.
This reference is way too old, what am I doing. @DrWilgy @Marmot @fingersplints you're my only hope

I remember

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:49 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:46 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:44 pmI'm not sure this man cares about the roof.
This reference is way too old, what am I doing. @DrWilgy @Marmot @fingersplints you're my only hope
I remember

bless

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:50 pm**

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm Lucy, are you planning to vote for someone other than Paradoxical Undressing?

canon u pull up the d1 final vote ss

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:50 pm**

can u*

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:51 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:50 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm Lucy, are you planning to vote for someone other than Paradoxical Undressing?
canon u pull up the d1 final vote ss

All the EoD polls end up in the 1st post of the game.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:51 pm**

I've just woken up. Give me a bit to catch up, I see I have a couple of notifications.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:52 pm**

Spoiler: show

@lucy

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:53 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:41 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:31 pm i don’t think she’ll respond to you @Boquise because she’s in UK
It’s only 10:30 in the UK
I'm thinking about voting you.

Do you think the heat/pressure/votes you've gotten is justified, or no?

Some of the suspicion is legit, some not.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:53 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:44 pm General concern about Ender:

Voted Nate, then lucy, then Marmot -- two of whom have been viable wagons (the latter two) and one that probably could be (Nate) -- also verbally accepted a fingersplints wagon. I'm not sure this man cares about the roof.

Last I saw he said Fingersplints is just town. I asked why and what he thought of Alison's ISO case, but I don't think he's been back in the thread since.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:54 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:51 pm I've just woken up. Give me a bit to catch up, I see I have a couple of notifications.

Don't flip out on me, it was all Boq's fault tbh

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:55 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:50 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm Lucy, are you planning to vote for someone other than Paradoxical Undressing?
canon u pull up the d1 final vote ss

Here's my version if that's what you wanted:

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:56 pm**

True @NateTheLesser. The path from A to B is blank. That doesn't have to mean there is no path, but it's not visible.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 8:17 pm Fingers is a fine wagon.

I might need to revisit it because two of my townreads independantly came to a scumread there.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:48 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:47 am Someone argue for Splints being civ for me plz.
Fingersplints is an obvious civilian, honestly.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:56 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:13 am @Alison Do you read Creature well, or am I misremembering?

I'd say I have an average read on Creature. I've been right; I've been wrong. I tend to POE more often than not, but I think most people do because of the way he plays.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:56 pm**

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:55 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:50 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm Lucy, are you planning to vote for someone other than Paradoxical Undressing?
canon u pull up the d1 final vote ss
Here's my version if that's what you wanted:

i mean like, where you’ve logged everyone’s vote history

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:56 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:41 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:31 pm i don’t think she’ll respond to you @Boquise because she’s in UK
It’s only 10:30 in the UK
I'm thinking about voting you.

Do you think the heat/pressure/votes you've gotten is justified, or no?
Some of the suspicion is legit, some not.

"I am a wolf, but these are dumb reasons" :P

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:57 pm**

starting to look like I'm going to get dragged into a meeting right at EOD

which is at 9pm

eastern time

a meeting

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:57 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:38 amI guess I am the only one here interested in butts

Incorrect.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:58 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:56 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:55 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:50 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:43 pm Lucy, are you planning to vote for someone other than Paradoxical Undressing?
canon u pull up the d1 final vote ss
Here's my version if that's what you wanted:

i mean like, where you’ve logged everyone’s vote history

This one has everything:

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:11 am
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:35 pm Vote Spreadsheet

This is something I do on my homesite because we don't have any sort of vote automation (and Ender will recognize it because I brought screenshots of it to our champs qualifier). If you want to see what the vote count was at any given point in time, this will help.

- There's a tab for each Day at the bottom. All votes from the thread are listed in chronological order, and on the right side is a running vote count that shows what the vote count was after each vote.
- Due to the vagaries of The Poll being separate from the thread, I'm using the timestamp from the vote post if I could find one. I also took poll screenshots occasionally and reconciled the vote counts (there are notes on the timestamps of when this was done), so at those points the count is definitely accurate. There were at least a few votes that I could tell happened from the screenshots but didn't see a vote post for, so that's what the "??:??" votes are.
- Waterfall: This tab shows, for each player, everyone that they voted for each day. Player alignments are colored in after they die.
- Wagons: Shows the final vote count from each day’s vote, with player alignments colored in as the game goes on.
- If you open the document you'll be anonymous to anyone else in there, so don't worry about doxxing yourself.
- I obviously won't be updating this anymore after I die.

Link removed in edit by mod

(I think that'll actually embed here..? Unless the preview is lying to me. It seems like it loses some of the formatting and doesn't show notes, so this is the actual link if you want to open the document:
Link removed in edit by mod

One item of note to start with regarding JJJ's idea to look at the Falcon votes: everyone except Boq/Rondo/Wilgy voted for Falcon at some point. So unless that's exactly the team, there are wolf fingerprints on the Falcon push.

Nate will be allowed to share this document by screenshot, but we can't utilize a shared, editable document outside the thread. Apologies for having to edit this post, but I couldn't see a good way around that.
It's back, in Pog screenshot form!

Day 1 Votes:
Spoiler: show
Waterfall:
Spoiler: show
EOD Wagons:
Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:58 pm**

Nate I hope you're cool with being named Syndicate Modbot.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:59 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:57 pm starting to look like I'm going to get dragged into a meeting right at EOD

which is at 9pm

eastern time

a meeting

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:59 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:25 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:59 pm I vored Dizzy because he went from just being lower activity to openly luxuriating in it and declaring himself comfortable/townie in his state of doing nothing in a way that feels like a refuge in audacity.

Ender's continued refusal to explain his reads hits the same notes for me. I am struggling to understand why they would approach the game like this if they are town.
Hmm
Have you not played with town playing suboptimally for their faction before tbh?

I have played with townies who play in anti-town ways. They are, unsurprisingly, much rarer than wolves who play in anti-town ways. I generally have no regret killing them anyway if they're going to be liabilities.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:00 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:58 pm Nate I hope you're cool with being named Syndicate Modbot.

I'm kind of the Non-Union Modbot Equivalent where I'm from, so it's cool.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:02 pm**

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:56 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:41 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:31 pm i don’t think she’ll respond to you @Boquise because she’s in UK
It’s only 10:30 in the UK
I'm thinking about voting you.

Do you think the heat/pressure/votes you've gotten is justified, or no?
Some of the suspicion is legit, some not.
"I am a wolf, but these are dumb reasons" :P

No, the opposite. I am town, with some understandable suspicion.

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:02 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm wait, how bad is ur sleep schedule you swede @Boquise

i have vacation tbh

also fingers it is 01:02 in the UK rn tbh

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm**

I am not going to go for Alison when she is sleeping tbh

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:33 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:34 am Rondo's posts are chaos.

I struggle to find concordant processes or threads of thinking to interpret; everything is kaleidoscopic and inscrutable. @RondoDimBuckle you're the only one that can help me to change that, unless anyone else here knows you well and is willing to talk about it (Hi, EnderWiggin). As it stands, I don't think I town read this slot. While the immense activity is great, it's also chaos.
There's not a huge amount to talk about with Rondo. He has a lot of content you can probably read past and will do things just to poke buttons without believing in it a whit.

I've only ever seen him wolf irl so I don't know how much of it works in forum mafia, but in irl he likes to make it difficult to link him and his partners together, especially when it comes to drawing attention to himself. He's saved partners purely by making himself more suspicious.

I get the impression that you know Rondo well and in the past you have taken the lead on attempts to read Rondo because of this. Does it bother you at all that you've been essentially null reading him for most of the game?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm I am not going to go for Alison when she is sleeping tbh

I have good news for you; I'm not.

(I just woke up, actually. It's 6 am here.)

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:04 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:59 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:25 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:59 pm I vored Dizzy because he went from just being lower activity to openly luxuriating in it and declaring himself comfortable/townie in his state of doing nothing in a way that feels like a refuge in audacity.

Ender's continued refusal to explain his reads hits the same notes for me. I am struggling to understand why they would approach the game like this if they are town.
Hmm
Have you not played with town playing suboptimally for their faction before tbh?
I have played with townies who play in anti-town ways. They are, unsurprisingly, much rarer than wolves who play in anti-town ways. I generally have no regret killing them anyway if they're going to be liabilities.

oh you are awake!

hmmmm
i hard disagree on them being much rarer than wolves. Otherwise town's win rate in champs would be upside down tbh

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:04 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm I am not going to go for Alison when she is sleeping tbh
I have good news for you; I'm not.

(I just woke up, actually. It's 6 am here.)

...in the uk?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:05 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:41 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:33 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:31 pm i don’t think she’ll respond to you @Boquise because she’s in UK
It’s only 10:30 in the UK
I'm thinking about voting you.

Do you think the heat/pressure/votes you've gotten is justified, or no?
Some of the suspicion is legit, some not.

What suspicions are justified?

Does anyone pushing you look particularly wolfy?

Posted: **Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:05 pm**

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:04 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:03 pm I am not going to go for Alison when she is sleeping tbh
I have good news for you; I'm not.

(I just woke up, actually. It's 6 am here.)
...in the uk?

I am in Singapore. I thank God every day that I'm not in the United Terfdom.

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