Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[Alison]

mac, do you think alison + esooa are teammates?

All things I say are theoretical but yes. Last time they towned together on Syndicate it was like a 6 episode DBZ fight between Goku and Frieza. They both know I am good at town. They both town read me. I have independent scumreads on the other one. Neither are engaging the other.

2 people having a fight in one game doesn't mean they're obligated to go at it hammer and tongs every game they play. I know you are good at town but I have reason to believe that your reads might not be perfect this game because you are suspecting me for bad reasons and are suspecting people I independently townread.

[staypositivefriend]

i put my vote on grogu because occam's razor tells me that he's a scum slot. my vote is still able to be bought & sold, just feeling a bit lost w/my gamesolving right now

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i'm considering switching to ellie, but i honestly got townvibes from the way she engaged w/the thread last night

if you could point to/describe that i'd appreciate it, or to wherever you may have already said it

[MacDougall]

If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.

[staypositivefriend]

i will say that ellie, made, and DOOM all being on the LC wagon makes me feel uneasy. i am skeptical of all 3 of those slots being town

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i would murder baby yoda without mercy

i do prefer not to off our newcomers on day 1, but this game is loaded with people i've never seen before

[Made]

half of my poe is voting long con and the other half is voting ellie

plus grogu

there's only 3 baddies this game. How many of them do you think are voting LC?

[DkKoba]

i would murder baby yoda without mercy

i do prefer not to off our newcomers on day 1, but this game is loaded with people i've never seen before

this is the type of thing someone whould say as they presubmit a nightkill onto me

[MacDougall]

Mac joins the party and everyone turns mad catty immediately. I'm probably not very long for mafia. I grow weary of what it had become for me.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.

Mac, i've all the respect in the world for what you're capable of as a town player.

please show others the same respect. if we're stupid ass morons, then guide us there accordingly. nicely.

[Alison]

i would murder baby yoda without mercy

i do prefer not to off our newcomers on day 1, but this game is loaded with people i've never seen before

Grogu exe is palatable but I would sort of like to resolve the Ellie/LC deadlock and solve from there.

[Made]

i will say that ellie, made, and DOOM all being on the LC wagon makes me feel uneasy. i am skeptical of all 3 of those slots being town

I'm pragmatic. I'll move if it means y'all can vote in a way that makes more sense. Ellie is voting in self defense. I don't think that's AI. I really don't see how Ellie is bad here (or at least worst than LC/Essoa)

[JaggedJimmyJay]

half of my poe is voting long con and the other half is voting ellie

plus grogu

there's only 3 baddies this game. How many of them do you think are voting LC?

no idea. some non-zero number.

[Michelle]

Also Alison is outed mafia. She would sheep my case if she was town and this disconnected.

Why would I sheep your case when you're calling me mafia for my initial townread on Ellie, which I do not think is a legitimate reason to read me mafia

This does not have anything to do with my case on LC and Esooa. I don't have to be right about you for that case to be the super hot fire it is. Coupled with the fact that you know I am town you should be sheeping. You're mafia. Sorry bout the rand.

awful lot of ego for "Esooa needs to be fear lynched"

Fear lynched? What for?
Do you imply someone should be shaking because of you ?

[MacDougall]

Esooa's LC progression is bad.

grogu lc scum

Day 0 has this consensus opinion that everyone had.

Whether I'm town or scum, Grogu is surely town.

i feel like lc!scum made this post just so that people would look back at it later and wonder what the wifom means, lol

the wording is so sus

not even day 1 and he's anti-spew tbh

More of dis. So she's like you know, off LC on d0. Important to note that it's SPF pushing this bceause come day 1 Esooa flips perspectives and has SPF mafia and LC as so town she shields him constantly.

I think lc is town

Day 1. Suddenly LC is town.

mac what's your lc read

mac what's your lc read

I dunno

gth then

I appear and she prompts me to give an LC read. Which is actually a loaded question because I had not long prior posted this...

Hey Jay doesn't LC have to be scum for that read to be valid tho? What does it mean for poor Grogu if LC flips town?

Which heavily indicated that I in fact was humouring LC town. So she made this post specifically to get me to further vocalise that fact. More sheilding of LC.

I feel like Omega is threadspewed mafia

imo they're the most likely scum. I think it' s possible Alison is scum and I think if she is it's VERY likely with Spf. I think LC is town because he put effort into giving reads that sounded real when he was the consensus lynch, rather than anti-spew, and because his vt claim isn't what I'd expect in his position as mafia, among other things

Locks onto a read I give, shades Alison along the way. Preflip associates her to SPF. Explains LC townread. Someone fact check how much effort he gave into giving reads. @Esooa what are the "other things".

realistically, i'm probably never going to vote outside of the pool of LC/grogu/made today. i would be shocked if that pool didn't have at least one mafia.

why not DOOM or ellie

Offers SPF alternative options, random pairing. Mafia do this.

i switched my vote to made because it felt right

but i might switch back

awfully convenient that you're putting Made up for contention to be a wagon when Ellie is gaining traction and LC is losing it

Abrupt shading of SPF (and LC?). Weird gotcha post based on nothing.

I think LC's reads make a lot of sense from his PoV as town and that's a good look too

More justification of LC town that is actually nothing.

oof if i get baked im gonna be upset, this game is fun. like, cmon guys, we literally have this game solved. if i die that you'll see my reads are right and it just means i can't participate.
and i already said i have a reason for playing different, im just not gonna share it.

how is the game solved? Also you probably should share it considering you're gonna be baked if not lmfao

LC is scum, Michelle is scum. 3rd person will make themselves known.

kinda not feeling either of these scum reads rn

More sheilding of LC when town push him.

esooa, are you scum

yes

Scum claim. Esooa does this as mafia. No I am not joking.

esooa, are you scum

yes

Dope! Who are your teammates??

LC Alison

More jokes.

Ellie top wagon over LC we did it boys

Sorry about the rand Esooa and Con.

For posterity.

@nutella do you still like my case at least?

[Esooa]

i will say that ellie, made, and DOOM all being on the LC wagon makes me feel uneasy. i am skeptical of all 3 of those slots being town

I'm pragmatic. I'll move if it means y'all can vote in a way that makes more sense. Ellie is voting in self defense. I don't think that's AI. I really don't see how Ellie is bad here (or at least worst than LC/Essoa)

this person is teamed with Ellie

[MacDougall]

If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.

Mac, i've all the respect in the world for what you're capable of as a town player.

please show others the same respect. if we're stupid ass morons, then guide us there accordingly. nicely.

I have not been disrespectful here Jay. Show me where I was.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who would you like to bake today?
Poll runs till Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DaughterOfOmega
0
No votes
Voters: None
DkKoba
0
No votes
Voters: None
EllieDelight
6
38%
Voters: tutuu, JaggedJimmyJay, Michelle, Esooa, Long Con, Alison
Esooa
0
No votes
Voters: None
Grogu
1
6%
Voters: staypositivefriend
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
5
31%
Voters: nutella, EllieDelight, MacDougall, Made, DaughterOfOmega
MacDougall
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
1
6%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Michelle
1
6%
Voters: Grogu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
staypositivefriend
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Bake
0
No votes
Voters: None
Unvote
1
6%
Voters: DkKoba
I'm a gluten fiend (Host, Mods, Nonplayers)
1
6%
Voters: Marmot
Total votes: 16

A new tie

[Made]

i will say that ellie, made, and DOOM all being on the LC wagon makes me feel uneasy. i am skeptical of all 3 of those slots being town

I'm pragmatic. I'll move if it means y'all can vote in a way that makes more sense. Ellie is voting in self defense. I don't think that's AI. I really don't see how Ellie is bad here (or at least worst than LC/Essoa)

this person is teamed with Ellie

we could both be town, yes.

y'all this feels off. What's happened since Mac's case last night that's made ellie look worse than LC?

[Made]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I'm probably not getting lynched today, vote somewhere else

[staypositivefriend]

i'm considering switching to ellie, but i honestly got townvibes from the way she engaged w/the thread last night

if you could point to/describe that i'd appreciate it, or to wherever you may have already said it

all of these posts pinged me as being town-indicative last night:

ellie, you said earlier that you were 100% sure that there's a mafia within me and michelle

do you still feel that way? if so, why haven't you pursued or talked about that angle recently? it does not seem that your current reads are being influenced by the extremely confident read you outed like 24 hours ago

nah im at lime 30% now. honestly i dont think either of you are but im too ego to completely admit i was at fault lol

also mac, i dont think youre scum. ignore that post i made like, 2 pages back. i was just curious about its reaponses(not that it got any....)

But yeah, I majored in wagonomic in undergrad guys I got this:

So LC is odd for getting a lot of votes and those votes kinda dissolving is a great look for Ellie if LC flips scum, and a bad look for people who switch off him, especially if they started the wagon.

If Ellie is bad clear spf, LC, and essoa. There’s no reason for a clump of votes to appear there from a baddie team, especially at this point

From this I get if Ellie is mafia LC is town and if LC is baddie Ellie is town.

Please update your reads accordingly.
More at 11.

I take issue with the bolded especially but this post more generally. I am one of the people who moved from LC to Ellie. Esooa and LC were already there. LC has every right to be there and never moved from himself to Ellie. Esooa had never voted LC either. So literally the only person who is voting for Ellie that was on LC is me. So you are essentially saying Ellie looks great if LC flips scum because Mac moved from LC to Ellie. This only makes sense if I am mafia but you aren't pushing me. This is a surface level analysis designed to bury LC and protect Ellie. You are mafia.

I have an easy gambit: bake LC today and if he flips town quick-bake me tomorrow, if he's mafia everyone is happy. I dont think there's much risk there for town.

And you should be happy with this unless youre partnered with LC, but like, people werent saying that at the beginning of the game were they?

it's likely because all of these posts show both a willingness to re-consider her perspective as well as an attitude that runs slightly contrary to a self-preservation mindset

but looking further, these posts aren't really as towny as they felt ~in the moment~ to me. it might be a mistake to favor some perceived micro towntells over ellie's game being scummy holistically

[Esooa]

i will say that ellie, made, and DOOM all being on the LC wagon makes me feel uneasy. i am skeptical of all 3 of those slots being town

I'm pragmatic. I'll move if it means y'all can vote in a way that makes more sense. Ellie is voting in self defense. I don't think that's AI. I really don't see how Ellie is bad here (or at least worst than LC/Essoa)

this person is teamed with Ellie

we could both be town, yes.

y'all this feels off. What's happened since Mac's case last night that's made ellie look worse than LC?

Made is scum with Ellie

[MacDougall]

but anyways i asked u to requote ur case @MacDougall can i have it?

If you stop being mean to me sure.

i dont need to appeal to u here but ok

I just don't want you to be mean and criticise me? I'm not asking for an appeal.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i will say that ellie, made, and DOOM all being on the LC wagon makes me feel uneasy. i am skeptical of all 3 of those slots being town

I'm pragmatic. I'll move if it means y'all can vote in a way that makes more sense. Ellie is voting in self defense. I don't think that's AI. I really don't see how Ellie is bad here (or at least worst than LC/Essoa)

is this actually true about ellie's vote? it could be, but for much of this day, during multiple stints, long con has held a commanding lead -- with ellie helping that along. is that self-defense?

[DkKoba]

@Esooa what do you make of mac's push against you?

[DkKoba]

@MacDougall can I see a reads list from you?

[Esooa]

@Esooa what do you make of mac's push against you?

he's town but he's just worried about me it's cute

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.

Mac, i've all the respect in the world for what you're capable of as a town player.

please show others the same respect. if we're stupid ass morons, then guide us there accordingly. nicely.

I have not been disrespectful here Jay. Show me where I was.

i don't feel as though you've respected what i can do as a town player in this dialogue. i don't think you intend that, but it can be a byproduct of your response to "my case isn't getting traction"

[MacDougall]

I haven't got an updated list sorry.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I'm probably not getting lynched today, vote somewhere else

Meh

[Made]

i will say that ellie, made, and DOOM all being on the LC wagon makes me feel uneasy. i am skeptical of all 3 of those slots being town

I'm pragmatic. I'll move if it means y'all can vote in a way that makes more sense. Ellie is voting in self defense. I don't think that's AI. I really don't see how Ellie is bad here (or at least worst than LC/Essoa)

is this actually true about ellie's vote? it could be, but for much of this day, during multiple stints, long con has held a commanding lead -- with ellie helping that along. is that self-defense?

I mean i don't know when she voted LC, but like she was the clear alternative to LC even before Mac remade the case for LC. she probably shouldn't vote elsewhere unless it could prevent her from getting lynched.

[MacDougall]

If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.

Mac, i've all the respect in the world for what you're capable of as a town player.

please show others the same respect. if we're stupid ass morons, then guide us there accordingly. nicely.

I have not been disrespectful here Jay. Show me where I was.

i don't feel as though you've respected what i can do as a town player in this dialogue. i don't think you intend that, but it can be a byproduct of your response to "my case isn't getting traction"

Because I am scumreading you.

[DkKoba]

@Esooa what do you make of mac's push against you?

he's town but he's just worried about me it's cute

why is he town to you?

[DkKoba]

also i asked what you made of his push - > not asking about his alignment.

[Made]

Do we have the will to switch to Esooa?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.

Mac, i've all the respect in the world for what you're capable of as a town player.

please show others the same respect. if we're stupid ass morons, then guide us there accordingly. nicely.

I have not been disrespectful here Jay. Show me where I was.

i don't feel as though you've respected what i can do as a town player in this dialogue. i don't think you intend that, but it can be a byproduct of your response to "my case isn't getting traction"

Because I am scumreading you.

exactly. please ask yourself why and search your soul

[staypositivefriend]

i dont claim to have a godread on either of these two but i think mac v jagged is just town v town

[DkKoba]

I haven't got an updated list sorry.

can u just spitball from memory where u would put ppl u have at least above null confidence on

[Esooa]

@Esooa what do you make of mac's push against you?

he's town but he's just worried about me it's cute

why is he town to you?

doubt he has this high WIM as wolf which ur gonna call NAI but it's straight up true and I'm not reconsidering it at least for today

[DkKoba]

meta is trash

[Made]

I think we have the votes for this
[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

[Esooa]

Do we have the will to switch to Esooa?

no LOL

[MacDougall]

If you wanna kill Ellie fine. If she flips town and I die just come back to my content. I've got better things to do than argue with wolves about their alignment.

Mac, i've all the respect in the world for what you're capable of as a town player.

please show others the same respect. if we're stupid ass morons, then guide us there accordingly. nicely.

I have not been disrespectful here Jay. Show me where I was.

i don't feel as though you've respected what i can do as a town player in this dialogue. i don't think you intend that, but it can be a byproduct of your response to "my case isn't getting traction"

Because I am scumreading you.

exactly. please ask yourself why and search your soul

Huh?

[Esooa]

I think we have the votes for this
[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

this is such blatant flailing after calling out ur team my dude

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

meta is trash

Cases are scummy

[DkKoba]

im flailing too [VOTE: esooa] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Huh?

search your soul

i was a town read. i considered your case. i decided against it. i'm a scum read.

search your soul

[Made]

I think we have the votes for this
[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

this is such blatant flailing after calling out ur team my dude

you seem confident in that

[Esooa]

im flailing too [VOTE: esooa] aubergine

no ur just trash at reading me and somehow haven't cared to improve for like 3-4 games now

[JaggedJimmyJay]

meta is trash

Cases are scummy

mafia is bad