The Syndicate

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:13 pm Also I am not good at these tells and I trust nanook to crush my ego any time he can.

Nanook do you get the sense that ender isn't treating me as a possible wolf in our interactions?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:13 pm Also I am not good at these tells and I trust nanook to crush my ego any time he can.

Nanook do you get the sense that ender isn't treating me as a possible wolf in our interactions?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:13 pm Also I am not good at these tells and I trust nanook to crush my ego any time he can.

Nanook do you get the sense that ender isn't treating me as a possible wolf in our interactions?

Afaik he has the same approach I typically do, that if you're talking to someone you treat them as town


I'm conspicuously not shielding ender I just don't think this specifically is a tell for him, at least not one I'm aware of

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm i wish i had tmi the uncertainty of this game is a bit stressful

feel like hk wont be a hit

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:04 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:45 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:36 pm ill vote with queek

I worry about the company of men you keep smh

Call me man-thing again, cat-thing, and I’ll gouge out your eyes and give your head to Throt instead of mounting it with the others, so swears Queek, rightful warlord of the City of Pillars!

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:19 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm i wish i had tmi the uncertainty of this game is a bit stressful

feel like hk wont be a hit

Just sheep me and blame me for being wrong later.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:27 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Who? Santy?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:28 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Can you show me said solving and why it feels good?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:15 pm santy hasnt been obv town but he's definitely playing the game and doing things

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm i wish i had tmi the uncertainty of this game is a bit stressful

feel like hk wont be a hit

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:34 pm Porscha you still sussing Lily? Why?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:35 pm I didnt have a read on ender early, I putted them at towncore at first for the fire emblem posts

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:28 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Can you show me said solving and why it feels good?

If you start at the beginning of the game and ignore any time they whine about being voted there is a lot of solving.

I am phone posting and isoing on phone is a little annoying for me.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:04 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:45 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:36 pm ill vote with queek

I worry about the company of men you keep smh

Call me man-thing again, cat-thing, and I’ll gouge out your eyes and give your head to Throt instead of mounting it with the others, so swears Queek, rightful warlord of the City of Pillars!

This breed of man is very expensive, but I can get anything if you have the cash for it

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:35 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:34 pm Porscha you still sussing Lily? Why?

Eh idk what to do with it. Not strong tr but I might have leaned into the sr too hard last night. I'd need to sit and ISO but I doubt I'll have that type of time before eod

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:36 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:28 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Can you show me said solving and why it feels good?

If you start at the beginning of the game and ignore any time they whine about being voted there is a lot of solving.

I am phone posting and isoing on phone is a little annoying for me.

Strangely I thought all their posts with solving that made them look townies were the louder posts in question

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:39 pm Let the record show I am strongly anti HK flip today and if he goes over and was town I am viciously scumhunting in the voters, wolves feel free to remove your votes now in advance

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:39 pm Let the record show I am strongly anti HK flip today and if he goes over and was town I am viciously scumhunting in the voters, wolves feel free to remove your votes now in advance

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:43 pm what HK has done today in the past 24 hours:

Make a post with the contradicting premises that btw, even if you say something like "he was just conflicted cause it should mean they were town but he wolf read them," then where is the conflict? Cause to me that post doesn't read like he's conflicted by it at all, it reads like he's trying to justify that fact to the thread

Omgus me for wolf reading it

Omgus everyone else afterwards

Self vote and leave

HK when he's a towny is way more inquisitive imo but the way he handled all that stuff felt more like shutting it down imo

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:48 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:39 pm Let the record show I am strongly anti HK flip today and if he goes over and was town I am viciously scumhunting in the voters, wolves feel free to remove your votes now in advance

Could you elaborate your townread in hk?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:42 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:40 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:38 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:37 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:28 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:26 am

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:24 am

Can you trust me and vote with me?

I can trust your read on Ender and I will listen to your case anywhere else.

Santy is frozen. His post content is bleak. He is struggling

You are literally ignoring me. You have rrad my wolf games, do you think being frozen was something I did as wolf?
Why are you so stale on me? Like bro I feel like you are not even trying to read my posts at this point and you are just confbiasing your read which is pretty bad.

Your reads have progressed.

Your iso is bare.

You haven't tried to solve people.

You haven't attempted to scum hunt.

All you have done is "omg vote me out" "skill issue" etc when ever someone pressures you.

This isn't your town game.

Uhh. He has about as many town reads as I do. Sabi? This just isn't true.

Town reads are the easiest thing for scum to fake.

He has no scum reads. That's harder to fake because they need to believe in their reads and actually solve.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:41 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:34 am Yes hk all the scum fear you specifically.

not fear, opportunity.
nanook isn't wrong that I have a volume tell as wolf. Often I get wolf read early (as wolf) and then struggle to continue to post for fear that whatever it is I'm about to write is only going to look worse for me than what I've already done. You can see examples of that in my last few wolf games on MU.

But here he's trying to expand what is basically a strict volume tell where my posting is depressed in general to a volume tell that is relative to the thread which has never really historically been the situation, it's always been a strict "under x posts likely wolf, over x posts likely town", it's never been relative.

His argument that my posting is lackluster, or I'm making not only classically bad posts but classically HK wolf posts also falls flat, little of what I've written in this thread is fluffy bullshit.

So no, I don't think nanook, as a wolf, would fear me so much as nanook, as a wolf, would recognize I can do good work for town clearing other people and if he can find a push that would get me over I firmly believe he'd take that opportunity.

I think the same thing could and would apply to ender as well. He's seen my town game several times, and seen my wolf game at least a couple, and the way he limped into a HK wolf read is really off his traditional town game and while I recognize IRL happens and keeps people away from the game as all alignments the way Ender is burst posting without doing anything outside of catch-up and commentary I struggle to see how that's town indicative.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:48 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:28 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:11 pm Which tbf the ate and self vote from Santy was pretty annoying.

But other than santy's own drama queen whining I have liked them since

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Can you show me said solving and why it feels good?

If you start at the beginning of the game and ignore any time they whine about being voted there is a lot of solving.

I am phone posting and isoing on phone is a little annoying for me.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:51 pm Why is hk voting himself what are we doing here

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:52 pmI don't have any scum reads either tbf

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:55 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:41 am

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:34 am Yes hk all the scum fear you specifically.

not fear, opportunity.
nanook isn't wrong that I have a volume tell as wolf. Often I get wolf read early (as wolf) and then struggle to continue to post for fear that whatever it is I'm about to write is only going to look worse for me than what I've already done. You can see examples of that in my last few wolf games on MU.

But here he's trying to expand what is basically a strict volume tell where my posting is depressed in general to a volume tell that is relative to the thread which has never really historically been the situation, it's always been a strict "under x posts likely wolf, over x posts likely town", it's never been relative.

His argument that my posting is lackluster, or I'm making not only classically bad posts but classically HK wolf posts also falls flat, little of what I've written in this thread is fluffy bullshit.

So no, I don't think nanook, as a wolf, would fear me so much as nanook, as a wolf, would recognize I can do good work for town clearing other people and if he can find a push that would get me over I firmly believe he'd take that opportunity.

I think the same thing could and would apply to ender as well. He's seen my town game several times, and seen my wolf game at least a couple, and the way he limped into a HK wolf read is really off his traditional town game and while I recognize IRL happens and keeps people away from the game as all alignments the way Ender is burst posting without doing anything outside of catch-up and commentary I struggle to see how that's town indicative.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:48 am

this response from nanook is completely reasonable and HK never acknowledges it, and HK's vote on me is literally never explained other than he just votes me after I wolf read him, but once I stopped that he just stopped caring about me or mentioning me at all. Like I literally can't figure out a single thing looking at his recent posts that he's thinking other than "people pushing me is bad" and that's just such a pathetic view of the game, especially the way he voted me while I was a wagon and never explained anything about it then just moved on once I stopped posting about him

Until he comes back and says kill everyone wolf reading him and doesn't even name who so I don't even know what he thinks right now lmao

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:00 pm Yeah, I liked this point from Nook cuz like, I actually recall reading that conversation after the game. But nook searching for it to like push hk more I think its a pretty good look in tje sense that it looks towny from nook? And its kinda sheepable tho I dont have that knowledge lf hk meta but weh. Also lolmeta

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:57 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:32 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:28 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:17 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:14 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:12 pm

He hasn't done anything besides defend Jack

Sabi I don't like when you do posts like this because having read the thread I know they are wrong.

Fair enough. It's the only thing I can remember from them.

I believe this and I also believe this is what is coloring your read of them opposite of my own. Their loud moments are wolfy but then they will do a lot of solving and it feels good.

Can you show me said solving and why it feels good?

If you start at the beginning of the game and ignore any time they whine about being voted there is a lot of solving.

I am phone posting and isoing on phone is a little annoying for me.

I checked.

It's bad and bare. Nothing that impressed me.

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:59 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:52 pmI don't have any scum reads either tbf

and posts like this from Neon are the kind that I kinda feel is towny but it's also rly dumb just cause I think a wolf wouldn't be so expressively useless lol, like at this point I'd think they at least be trying to do stuff rather than just say they're lost ig so it feels more believable that they're just town and lost. I'm not rly sure on it though cause it's the kinda read where if it's wrong it's the worst thing ever so I'd almost rather she just dies so I can know lol but for now I think I'll just let her be