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I came out of it with "nanook just town".NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:44 pmIf you do read it it's unlikely you'll come away with a take outside of "yeah, sure, nanook can be poe i guess."
Yeah but you know mehollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:57 pmI came out of it with "nanook just town".NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:44 pmIf you do read it it's unlikely you'll come away with a take outside of "yeah, sure, nanook can be poe i guess."
My entire thing can be summed up as "Nanook bad people yeet him"
I find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
ngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:10 pmI find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:24 pm as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:18 pmWho are your top 3 wolf reads, in order of most to least suspicious?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:17 pm as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?
Besides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:21 pmngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:10 pmI find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic
Sheeping*listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmBesides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:21 pmngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:10 pmI find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic
Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.
Lol that’s the same case I made on you I think- you had him as idk but we’re oscillating between scum to null to town on what I called flimsy reasoninglisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:03 pm Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.
D3: “Ender null but i agree his slot being resolved gives the most info”listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:19 pmThat is a good point, my logic for Ender not being a wolf is I highly doubt on D1 2 wolves would vote right next to each other on a miselim.honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:01 pm i like your analysis listo i will say flea and michelle did not seem partnered from their interactions and idk michelle voting to keep mansnicks wagon larger than enders doesnt look great to me considering if she was just going for a mis hammer and mansnicks and ender were both mishammerable in that day - ender had much more presence than mansnicks and would have been a more optimal ml if both wagons were town
Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.
Also I thought all of Ender's votes were fairly town that day so sue me for following that for another wolf read I had.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:26 pmLol that’s the same case I made on you I think- you had him as idk but we’re oscillating between scum to null to town on what I called flimsy reasoninglisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:03 pm Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.
D2:D3: “Ender null but i agree his slot being resolved gives the most info”listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:19 pmThat is a good point, my logic for Ender not being a wolf is I highly doubt on D1 2 wolves would vote right next to each other on a miselim.honey wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:01 pm i like your analysis listo i will say flea and michelle did not seem partnered from their interactions and idk michelle voting to keep mansnicks wagon larger than enders doesnt look great to me considering if she was just going for a mis hammer and mansnicks and ender were both mishammerable in that day - ender had much more presence than mansnicks and would have been a more optimal ml if both wagons were town
45 minutes later, after a brief back and forth with ender where Ender basically says ‘no u’, here were the votes I’m seeing:
Ender 4, Gnome 4. Then Ender votes Creature, followed almost immediately by listo. Why? Because Ender looked towny for a sec, even if he gives the most info?
Naw dog I’m back to scumreading you hard
I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:03 pm Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.
Thanks listo, I appreciate it.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmBesides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:21 pmngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:10 pmI find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic
Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.
I do think both Martin and TH are honest targets. But I have them behind Nanook for me. I do believe all the flips are genuine also. Mainly because I have only ever been in 1 game ever that did fake flips. Also due to the fact if the flips are fake that makes me pretty much useless.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmlisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:03 pm Something else would be the fact that Ender had him as IDK on D1 but suddenly moved him to town D2 with what I consider fairly flimsy reasoning. Called the Nanook squabble with Michelle a reason to hardspew him as town when said squabble was like 4 posts and very minor. And after that Ender just seemed to completely ignore his existence.Thanks listo, I appreciate it.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmBesides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:21 pmngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:10 pmI find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic
Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.
Lemme think on this for a while. Like I don't think there's only 4 wolves, but I think I want to chop you after Martin/Triple.
What are your thoughts on Martin/Triple, and do you think all our flips have been legit thus far?
Look I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
Listo/nook 2024
Hi mac, I acknowledge you are postingMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pm as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?
I'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?
No, I'm not. I'm just getting fucking annoyed that it seems like no one wants to entertain an idea that Nanook might be scum so I'm getting emotional in my posting.
I’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pmI'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?
The vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pmI’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pmI'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?
We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?
listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLook I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
Listo/nook 2024
What am I missing here?
That I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 pmlisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLook I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
Listo/nook 2024What am I missing here?
Apparently I play the same way scum on his home site playhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
I don't think it looks badlisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:57 pmBesides the sweeping, not really solving. I found the start of D2 to be more trying to sow confusion than actually solve. He is interacting with people without interacting with them. Honestly, trying to articulate reasons is extremely difficult for me. Those would be the 3 biggest I can think of.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:21 pmngl I'm gonna need more than feelies on this.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:10 pmI find his supposed "town meta" wolf in general and then its just something about his posting feels off to me. It's nothing concrete but it feels right to me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:07 pmwhy is nanook bad?
Even if you're just rambling, talk to me about why you think his posting feels off.
I get that you find his "town meta" wolfy. I'm not looking for you to drop some concrete bombs that nanook is a wolf here, but more than a feeling would be fantastic
Something else I just thought of before pressing post was he knows his iso looks bad but isn't really trying to do anything to look better.
Oh?listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pmThe vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pmI’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pmI'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?
We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?
I’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:42 pmThat I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 pmlisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLook I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
Listo/nook 2024What am I missing here?
his votes are me, scotty twice, gnome, and ender. That doesn't seem horrific given that one of the scotty votes was the Prosecutor, the vote for me was b/c it was kinda obligatory, and then ender flipped wolf.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pmThe vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pmI’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pmI'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?
We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?
Okay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 pmI’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:42 pmThat I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 pmlisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLook I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
Listo/nook 2024What am I missing here?
That Ender D1 vote is pretty ballsy if he’s wolf tho. The trains could have swung in any direction after pushing Ender to a tie. Could be that he would have changed it if mansnicks didn’t pick back up, but those little votes are akin to throwing a match on gasolinehollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:52 pmhis votes are me, scotty twice, gnome, and ender. That doesn't seem horrific given that one of the scotty votes was the Prosecutor, the vote for me was b/c it was kinda obligatory, and then ender flipped wolf.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pmThe vote records ALSO show him being wolf as fuck.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:39 pmI’m more of a mid game player that goes off of vote records, which is why I’m so sus of you.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:36 pmI'm very much more of an end game player. Early game sucks for me because I need vote records to go off of. Along with getting a better idea of how people post I can sometimes make reads based on interactions but it is much more difficult for me.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmok, setting aside your limited availability b/c of your job, does it often take you 2 or more days to get into a game and really start playing/interacting?
We have 2 flipped wolves, which is invariably HUGE info (provided they’re real) and yet you’re all over nook for…gut feeling?
So really it's just the gnome who wasn't really townie, and the second scotty vote that you can "hang a wolf read on"
At least that's what I'm thinking.
I kinda buy that.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:53 pmOkay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 pmI’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:42 pmThat I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 pmlisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLook I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pmI’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
Listo/nook 2024What am I missing here?
Counterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going overhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:55 pmI kinda buy that.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:53 pmOkay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 pmI’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:42 pmThat I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:40 pmlisto95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:35 pmLook I would LOVE to shoot him myself but I never got the KP to do so. Also I NEVER DO THIS AS A WOLF.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:33 pm
I’m not convinced at this point that you aren’t PARTNERS with nook. Like- ok, we kindly ignore you all game, finally kill nook, he flips red, you get massive cred for it. Because you’ve been dancing on his nutsack all game. But in the end, it could all be a deep ploy because why would we lynch nook? He’s a slanker and would probably get shot instead. Far easier to sit on your hands and let someone else vig him and take credit for the discovery.
Listo/nook 2024What am I missing here?
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.
If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.
countercounterpoint: flipping you wins nobody anything (unless you're the last wolf in which case gg me)NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:00 pmCounterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going overhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:55 pmI kinda buy that.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:53 pmOkay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 pmI’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:42 pmThat I will GLADLY vote my own team to yeet them. As a wolf I always try my hardest to have a perfect vote record in terms of never voting town. I also generally never make reads and will just sheep with people.
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.
If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.
That’s why he’s a safe player to park a vote on. It’s gonna be hard to lynch nook when he’s such a better vig candidate.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:01 pmcountercounterpoint: flipping you wins nobody anything (unless you're the last wolf in which case gg me)NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:00 pmCounterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going overhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:55 pmI kinda buy that.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:53 pmOkay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 pmI’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.
If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.
you're not wrong, but like isn't it super interesting that as soon as there's pressure on martin and triple they just kinda... vanish?Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:01 pm I’ve also said this before, and not to discount it completely, but metas can be faked. People that talk about their metas and flaunt what they would do as wolf or as town automatically raise my hackles. The first step is awareness of your tell, the next step is being able to replicate it.
Listo’s saying he always does “A” as wolf. Others say nook always does “B” as town. Perhaps…if they…just changed their playstyle for a game…they could…fool people more
Thats kinda the point though yeah, that im poe enough that he doesn't really get side eye for pushing me near-exclusively, but im not really at risk of dying for awhile. Its like a perfect place for a mafia to tunnel, when questioned they just go "well flip nanook" and nobody really thinks its unreasonable to want to flip me, but I don't get flipped.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:01 pmcountercounterpoint: flipping you wins nobody anything (unless you're the last wolf in which case gg me)NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:00 pmCounterpoint: I'm a super easy place to park and not have to do anything for three and a half days cause I'm poe but haven't been in serious danger of going overhollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:55 pmI kinda buy that.listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:53 pmOkay let me try to explain it better. I will vote for a team as a wolf if they are already a valid wagon. As a wolf I would never be trying this hard with Nanook.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:51 pmI’m still confused, because if nook is wolf, and you’ve been voting nook as nauseum…you’re playing right into your wolf meta. Are you not?
Like ok, if you're wolf and nanook is town why are you going so hard on him when there's other options to go hard on like TH and Martin, even if they are your pack you could get some credit for pushing on them.
If you're town and nanook is a wolf then your go hard there makes a lot of sense, something triggers your wolf radar there and you want to see that through.
If you're both wolves this loses the game b/c like the town reads nanook is getting are from people who are really experienced with reading him. Not that it's meta, but that it's practice.