The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:54 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:49 am Michelle is town either way imo

Why?

She's quite easy to read. She posts with a joyful spirit and reckless acquiescence as town.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:57 am The paranoia about fast wagons, the concerted attempt to solve/catchup despite starting late into the thread, really pure sounding posts like the black coffee one, a disinterest in easy misexes and a true desire to search for truth, all point to town.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:57 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:54 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:53 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:49 am Michelle is town either way imo

Why?

She's quite easy to read. She posts with a joyful spirit and reckless acquiescence as town.

Okay, I'm not familiar with her game how does she post when she's scum?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:58 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:57 am The paranoia about fast wagons, the concerted attempt to solve/catchup despite starting late into the thread, really pure sounding posts like the black coffee one, a disinterest in easy misexes and a true desire to search for truth, all point to town.

This is about Michelle correct?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:59 am tony is scummy as town and towny as maf

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:01 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:59 am tony is scummy as town and towny as maf

He is towny here in every way except the directions he is aiming.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:59 am tony is scummy as town and towny as maf

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:01 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:59 am tony is scummy as town and towny as maf

He is towny here in every way except the directions he is aiming.

I think that hes scummy here so hes town

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:11 am Town: JJJ, MacDougall, Oddmerta, Sloonei, Strawhenge, falcon45ca, Esooa, Michelle

Light town: fingersplints, BoKnows, Nanook, tutuu, staypositivefriend

Null: Dom, Long Con

POE: Marmot, AL_sama, JPIC, KZA, TonyStarkPrime, tedxtr

Michelle shifted up for a really townie entrance. Nanook shifted down, still a townread, but the bar for being at the top tier is raised higher now and I have respect for his scum game. Marmot shifted down for reasons I've explained (I didn't like his interaction with KZA, and I thought he fit in the same position as he usually does as scum, gamestate-wise).

I have not had an easy time reading LC's posts strongly one way or another this game. He remains a null. tutuu is shifted up to light town for reasons discussed just above, and SPF is shifted up to light town for consistent good takes.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:04 am Okay well Mac's and Alison's posts about Michelle blend in well with together, but tutuu's comment about how she wouldn't defend a teammate so weakly is meh to me. This lobby is so big that I'm not really willing to change my vote because a universally town-leaned/read player doesn't think they're scum

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:42 am I would chop Long Con, Marmot, AL_sama, or maybe tedxtr

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:06 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:04 am Okay well Mac's and Alison's posts about Michelle blend in well with together, but tutuu's comment about how she wouldn't defend a teammate so weakly is meh to me. This lobby is so big that I'm not really willing to change my vote because a universally town-leaned/read player doesn't think they're scum

So you are scum with Al.

I see.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:06 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:04 am Okay well Mac's and Alison's posts about Michelle blend in well with together, but tutuu's comment about how she wouldn't defend a teammate so weakly is meh to me. This lobby is so big that I'm not really willing to change my vote because a universally town-leaned/read player doesn't think they're scum

So you are scum with Al.

I see.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:07 am I'm not saying my Joseph impersonation is scary good but I will say if I heard it in my house I'd be under the bed shaking in terror

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:22 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:17 am Wait you wanna bury TSP too? That's tight.

In Fallout I said that he seemed scummy because he was machine gunning out hot takes to try to match his town meta. I didn't put much genuine effort into figuring out how correct that analysis was because I was Metzger, but he did end up flipping scum. I think he is playing up his "says confusing things" persona a little too much here, in a very similar way.

Also his vote on Michelle was a total wolf move. I am happy to vote him out.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:32 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:17 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:14 am If I had to sort my POE it would be like this.

Upper POE: JPIC, Marmot, tedxtr

Lower POE: AL_sama, KZA, TSP

Mac's argument that JPIC self resolves is logical and is a reason not to exe JPIC as early since he might townclear himself later on if he's town. Marmot and ted's posting have been pretty meh but I don't have a slam dunk reason to vote them.

Everyone in the lower POE has given me a strong reason to think that they are scum.

My what sorry

Weren't you arguing that JPIC is super polarized and will be outed as the game goes on anyway? Or am I misremembering?

I was saying he was polarised and is likely just mafia. I didn't say the other parts.

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:53 pm well u seem to be taking stuff rly seriously from my pov and u seem to wanna die so it makes me think ur maf

I can't seem to change anything so I gave up

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:06 pm this sucks I'm getting more town reads by posting complete garbage I didn't even think about than when I tried to play serious

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:07 am I'm not saying my Joseph impersonation is scary good but I will say if I heard it in my house I'd be under the bed shaking in terror

You lost me. What?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am Here's my best Joseph impression

Tsp has 50 posts d0 he's near lock mafier

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:27 am Here's my best Joseph impression

Tsp has 50 posts d0 he's near lock mafier

Oh wow Joseph you know last time you made this read I didn't listen enough to it but this time I think I will, thanks for the tip buddy!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:09 am I've seen glimpses of the town Ted. Enough for me not to prioritise his exsanguination today. Good job Ted if you're mafia.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:09 am

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:53 pm well u seem to be taking stuff rly seriously from my pov and u seem to wanna die so it makes me think ur maf

I can't seem to change anything so I gave up

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:06 pm this sucks I'm getting more town reads by posting complete garbage I didn't even think about than when I tried to play serious

kza still obv town

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:09 am

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:53 pm well u seem to be taking stuff rly seriously from my pov and u seem to wanna die so it makes me think ur maf

I can't seem to change anything so I gave up

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:06 pm this sucks I'm getting more town reads by posting complete garbage I didn't even think about than when I tried to play serious

kza still obv town

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:09 am I've seen glimpses of the town Ted. Enough for me not to prioritise his exsanguination today. Good job Ted if you're mafia.

I think I fool you every time

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:38 am Skimmed through Al's ISO and was not impressed. Towards the end he made a giant read list and falcon said something like "it looks like you don't want to lynch anybody", and Al responded by saying he's not confident in his read list. If you're not confident enough in your reads why even bother making a readlist??? It seems like he made a readlist to just make a readlist.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:48 am im back to scumreading jpic too

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:56 am @Justplayingitcool who mafia

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:11 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:09 am I've seen glimpses of the town Ted. Enough for me not to prioritise his exsanguination today. Good job Ted if you're mafia.

I think I fool you every time

God damn it why would you do this?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:12 am

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:38 am Skimmed through Al's ISO and was not impressed. Towards the end he made a giant read list and falcon said something like "it looks like you don't want to lynch anybody", and Al responded by saying he's not confident in his read list. If you're not confident enough in your reads why even bother making a readlist??? It seems like he made a readlist to just make a readlist.

die

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:12 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:48 am im back to scumreading jpic too

Great progression

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:13 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:11 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:11 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:09 am I've seen glimpses of the town Ted. Enough for me not to prioritise his exsanguination today. Good job Ted if you're mafia.

I think I fool you every time

God damn it why would you do this?

you’re fun to play mind games with

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:02 am marmot is scummy as town and scummy as maf

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:14 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:12 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:48 am im back to scumreading jpic too

Great progression

why do you feel unmotivated similar to mtg mafia as opposed to motivated similar to goc? i acknowledge u saying that u posting that much was damaging for ur health but

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:15 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:02 am marmot is scummy as town and scummy as maf

Wrong. Marmot was very scummy in GoC and townie in Simple Arsonist/MtG

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:22 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:17 am Wait you wanna bury TSP too? That's tight.

In Fallout I said that he seemed scummy because he was machine gunning out hot takes to try to match his town meta. I didn't put much genuine effort into figuring out how correct that analysis was because I was Metzger, but he did end up flipping scum. I think he is playing up his "says confusing things" persona a little too much here, in a very similar way.

Also his vote on Michelle was a total wolf move. I am happy to vote him out.

Out of all the egregious things Tony has done, I don't think him asking people to vote Michelle was one of them

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town

Al gets wagoned by a bunch of strong, loud townies -> BK is like "hmm I guess I'll ISO Al" -> "Yeah Al's ISO is really unimpressive. I guess I'll vote him". No real fierceness/conviction, and I don't get the "gotcha!" feeling of a town who thinks they've just nailed a mafia after reading an ISO.

-> Completely unrelated conversation about Michelle -> "Actually sorry I don't wanna vote Al after all, I'd just be sheeping someone else and I think this lobby is big enough that I can have my own reads."

This is a scum pattern. Note that Bo is voting Oddmerta (who coincidentally happens to be a big competing wagon to Al), not Michelle. So all that crap about not being convinced by me and Mac's towncases on Michelle doesn't follow logically. And even if he mixed up his own vote and thought he was voting Michelle, I think Michelle is obvious town who looks like an easy misexe and is a trap for mafia to fall into. So if he's voting a top townread of mine to save someone in my bottom POE I hate that too and think it's teammate indicative.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:04 am Okay well Mac's and Alison's posts about Michelle blend in well with together, but tutuu's comment about how she wouldn't defend a teammate so weakly is meh to me. This lobby is so big that I'm not really willing to change my vote because a universally town-leaned/read player doesn't think they're scum

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town

Al gets wagoned by a bunch of strong, loud townies -> BK is like "hmm I guess I'll ISO Al" -> "Yeah Al's ISO is really unimpressive. I guess I'll vote him". No real fierceness/conviction, and I don't get the "gotcha!" feeling of a town who thinks they've just nailed a mafia after reading an ISO.

-> Completely unrelated conversation about Michelle -> "Actually sorry I don't wanna vote Al after all, I'd just be sheeping someone else and I think this lobby is big enough that I can have my own reads."

This is a scum pattern. Note that Bo is voting Oddmerta (who coincidentally happens to be a big competing wagon to Al), not Michelle. So all that crap about not being convinced by me and Mac's towncases on Michelle doesn't follow logically. And even if he mixed up his own vote and thought he was voting Michelle, I think Michelle is obvious town who looks like an easy misexe and is a trap for mafia to fall into. So if he's voting a top townread of mine to save someone in my bottom POE I hate that too and think it's teammate indicative.

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:08 am Also I still think bo is town

Al gets wagoned by a bunch of strong, loud townies -> BK is like "hmm I guess I'll ISO Al" -> "Yeah Al's ISO is really unimpressive. I guess I'll vote him". No real fierceness/conviction, and I don't get the "gotcha!" feeling of a town who thinks they've just nailed a mafia after reading an ISO.

-> Completely unrelated conversation about Michelle -> "Actually sorry I don't wanna vote Al after all, I'd just be sheeping someone else and I think this lobby is big enough that I can have my own reads."

This is a scum pattern. Note that Bo is voting Oddmerta (who coincidentally happens to be a big competing wagon to Al), not Michelle. So all that crap about not being convinced by me and Mac's towncases on Michelle doesn't follow logically. And even if he mixed up his own vote and thought he was voting Michelle, I think Michelle is obvious town who looks like an easy misexe and is a trap for mafia to fall into. So if he's voting a top townread of mine to save someone in my bottom POE I hate that too and think it's teammate indicative.