The Syndicate

I keep appearing low on these reads lists. You'd think these people would try to lynch me but even when there are six hundred eod lynch wagons they don't. Much sincerity.

Who is bullzeye? Bullzeye's slot is a scum slot.

Counterpoint all these rational people think I am scum but Jack has me as a top town read. Is Jack buddying me?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:45 pm Who is bullzeye? Bullzeye's slot is a scum slot.

That's me.

TBF I have you as town in tone and action and everything except your weirdness with the vigs and fake flips and stuff. My rainbow list was more of a POE list.

And Jack is almost down there with you. He keeps jumping back and forth.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:40 pm

karavalenge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:44 pm

karavalenge wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:21 pm karavalenge, could you please talk a little about the votes you made during the final stretch of Day 3? Thanks so much! Much appreciated! Wonderful!

Already said it. I came in with like thirty minutes left and saw it was 4-3, Colin vs Long Con. I decided to tie it since I believed Long was more likely to be mafia.

I checked again at about 5 minutes left and it had switched to Glorfindel vs Long Con. Same reasoning, I switched to Glorfindel because I believed they were more likely to be mafia.

I did not post any vote tags because I didn't want to make a fight over Hallow powers.

How do you feel about those three players right now as we emerge from a lynchless finish?

This was like, 5 pages ago now, but might as well since Jay's the only one interacting with me for the most part and I don't want to just give up on this game completely.

I still feel like any of them could be lynched. I don't think their position coming into the next day is any stronger than the last. I think what happens during the night will be very important for determining who to lynch tomorrow.

I do not have more than "feelings" because I am having difficulty following the game, it is extremely fast-paced.

This is...not a great post. Do you have any specific opinions about those people? Who do you want to lynch?

Personally? I'd vote to lynch Jay because Jay has been really nice and understanding to me when I expect more posts like this one. I am not good at saying what people want to hear in this game (clearly, as you put it, not a great post). Most everyone has me down for a civ or middle scum and I have no idea why for either.

So yeah, sorry. I can't explain myself, I'm too complicated. And too tired from this game. I still don't know how to feel about Colin or Glor or Long Con simply because I can't keep up. I'll say that Glorfindel's "I'm town" after the vote was ended looked more scummy than anything else did during that rush.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:45 pm Who is bullzeye? Bullzeye's slot is a scum slot.

Speed. I'm working on summarizing why I think speed 2.0 is bad even without earlier cases against Bullzeye.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:39 pm Search my posts for his name. I have a few gripes with him from day 3 and today.

"Lynch me then rez me!" - WIFOM weirdness. It doesn't make sense for town or mafia. I don't know what to do with it.

No INH interactions - fair point. Had forgotten.

Buddied by Long Con until the going got tough - Not sure how this reflects on him exactly. Scum can help out teammates and/or buddy townies. Also depends on LC being scum for it to mean anything at all.

Colin draws a link between Long Con and Luna without completing it - The syndicate apparently has a 'thing' against people building scumteams or making associations before the lynch goes through. It's called world-building where I come from. And Colin's in that follow-up post seemed more like a "you said it, not me" kind of thing.

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He probably should be in my light greens and not my dark greens though.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:45 pm Who is bullzeye? Bullzeye's slot is a scum slot.

That's me.

TBF I have you as town in tone and action and everything except your weirdness with the vigs and fake flips and stuff. My rainbow list was more of a POE list.

And Jack is almost down there with you. He keeps jumping back and forth.

Oh. Okay you're scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:54 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:52 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:45 pm Who is bullzeye? Bullzeye's slot is a scum slot.

That's me.

TBF I have you as town in tone and action and everything except your weirdness with the vigs and fake flips and stuff. My rainbow list was more of a POE list.

And Jack is almost down there with you. He keeps jumping back and forth.

Oh. Okay you're scum.

You're welcome.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:58 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:55 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:54 pm

Lol yeah this is not a town mac. [VOTE: macdougall] aubergine

Yes it is you arrogant twerp

Why is it arrogant of her?

Because I am mad and say angry things

No, I mean... nutella is arrogant to dictate what is or isn't town Mac. Is nutella a Civ then?

I don't have the liberty of knowing her alignment Long Con.

Just that arrogance of that type doesn't translate to a baddie. A baddie knows who's Civ, so it's not arrogance to label people, it's TMI.

I think you just accidentally revealed nutella is Civ.

Let's not forget this exchange for when LC flips Mafia.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:01 pm

Spoiler: show

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:02 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:58 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:55 pm

Yes it is you arrogant twerp

Why is it arrogant of her?

Because I am mad and say angry things

No, I mean... nutella is arrogant to dictate what is or isn't town Mac. Is nutella a Civ then?

I don't have the liberty of knowing her alignment Long Con.

Just that arrogance of that type doesn't translate to a baddie. A baddie knows who's Civ, so it's not arrogance to label people, it's TMI.

I think you just accidentally revealed nutella is Civ.

Let's not forget this exchange for when LC flips Mafia.

And what should we draw from the exchange?

Also sorry for calling you a twerp nutella. That was mean and uncalled for.

Linki: Oh just that I am locktown.

karavalenge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:40 pm

karavalenge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:44 pm

karavalenge wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:21 pm karavalenge, could you please talk a little about the votes you made during the final stretch of Day 3? Thanks so much! Much appreciated! Wonderful!

Already said it. I came in with like thirty minutes left and saw it was 4-3, Colin vs Long Con. I decided to tie it since I believed Long was more likely to be mafia.

I checked again at about 5 minutes left and it had switched to Glorfindel vs Long Con. Same reasoning, I switched to Glorfindel because I believed they were more likely to be mafia.

I did not post any vote tags because I didn't want to make a fight over Hallow powers.

How do you feel about those three players right now as we emerge from a lynchless finish?

This was like, 5 pages ago now, but might as well since Jay's the only one interacting with me for the most part and I don't want to just give up on this game completely.

I still feel like any of them could be lynched. I don't think their position coming into the next day is any stronger than the last. I think what happens during the night will be very important for determining who to lynch tomorrow.

I do not have more than "feelings" because I am having difficulty following the game, it is extremely fast-paced.

This is...not a great post. Do you have any specific opinions about those people? Who do you want to lynch?

Personally? I'd vote to lynch Jay because Jay has been really nice and understanding to me when I expect more posts like this one. I am not good at saying what people want to hear in this game (clearly, as you put it, not a great post). Most everyone has me down for a civ or middle scum and I have no idea why for either.

So yeah, sorry. I can't explain myself, I'm too complicated. And too tired from this game. I still don't know how to feel about Colin or Glor or Long Con simply because I can't keep up. I'll say that Glorfindel's "I'm town" after the vote was ended looked more scummy than anything else did during that rush.

kara, we are hypothesizing that since there are no known spells/items that can save someone from a lynch, Long Con is probably bad and it's in his role power. The baddie powers are secret. There might be another explanation that would lead us to believe Long Con is good but we can't really come up with one. Maybe LC can tell us himself why he's good and it will be believable but most of us are doubtful.

Can I ask why you found Glorf's "I'm town" scummy?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:04 pm Also sorry for calling you a twerp nutella. That was mean and uncalled for.

Linki: Oh just that I am locktown.

Scumchuck how can you rationalise you being town given Bullzeye is, quite clearly, Mafia?

Would you have us believe, Scumchuck, that in swapping you in our esteemed host also flipped your alignment?

Scumchuck, sir, would this be a first in the history of Mafia?

Scumchuck I put it to you that Bullzeye was scum. You upon taking his slot have assumed his scum role and ergo you are also scum.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:04 pm Also sorry for calling you a twerp nutella. That was mean and uncalled for.

Linki: Oh just that I am locktown.

Are you jlaw giffing the apology or the obvious fact?

I analysed LC in isolation. My findings are that Scumchuck is bad.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:08 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:04 pm Also sorry for calling you a twerp nutella. That was mean and uncalled for.

Linki: Oh just that I am locktown.

Are you jlaw giffing the apology or the obvious fact?

Obvious fact.

Well at least you admit it is an obvious fact.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:07 pm Scumchuck how can you rationalise you being town given Bullzeye is, quite clearly, Mafia?

Would you have us believe, Scumchuck, that in swapping you in our esteemed host also flipped your alignment?

Scumchuck, sir, would this be a first in the history of Mafia?

Scumchuck I put it to you that Bullzeye was scum. You upon taking his slot have assumed his scum role and ergo you are also scum.

Can't argue with that.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:06 pm

karavalenge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:40 pm

karavalenge wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:44 pm

karavalenge wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:21 pm karavalenge, could you please talk a little about the votes you made during the final stretch of Day 3? Thanks so much! Much appreciated! Wonderful!

Already said it. I came in with like thirty minutes left and saw it was 4-3, Colin vs Long Con. I decided to tie it since I believed Long was more likely to be mafia.

I checked again at about 5 minutes left and it had switched to Glorfindel vs Long Con. Same reasoning, I switched to Glorfindel because I believed they were more likely to be mafia.

I did not post any vote tags because I didn't want to make a fight over Hallow powers.

How do you feel about those three players right now as we emerge from a lynchless finish?

This was like, 5 pages ago now, but might as well since Jay's the only one interacting with me for the most part and I don't want to just give up on this game completely.

I still feel like any of them could be lynched. I don't think their position coming into the next day is any stronger than the last. I think what happens during the night will be very important for determining who to lynch tomorrow.

I do not have more than "feelings" because I am having difficulty following the game, it is extremely fast-paced.

This is...not a great post. Do you have any specific opinions about those people? Who do you want to lynch?

Personally? I'd vote to lynch Jay because Jay has been really nice and understanding to me when I expect more posts like this one. I am not good at saying what people want to hear in this game (clearly, as you put it, not a great post). Most everyone has me down for a civ or middle scum and I have no idea why for either.

So yeah, sorry. I can't explain myself, I'm too complicated. And too tired from this game. I still don't know how to feel about Colin or Glor or Long Con simply because I can't keep up. I'll say that Glorfindel's "I'm town" after the vote was ended looked more scummy than anything else did during that rush.

kara, we are hypothesizing that since there are no known spells/items that can save someone from a lynch, Long Con is probably bad and it's in his role power. The baddie powers are secret. There might be another explanation that would lead us to believe Long Con is good but we can't really come up with one. Maybe LC can tell us himself why he's good and it will be believable but most of us are doubtful.

Can I ask why you found Glorf's "I'm town" scummy?

I'm not assuming that Long Con lived because of a Mafia power when there is an item in the Deathly Hallows that could possibly do that as well, depending on Dragon's interpretation.

I found Glorf's line scummy because he was asked to say it before then and refused until the vote was over, after which he left the game which I do not hold against him, just pointing it out as a fact.

That's all, I didn't care about whatever meta was being talked about at the time.

Long Con is bad because.

1. He posted unjustified suspicion of Bullzeye for distance cred.
2. Upon seeing Colin catching Bullzeye in his wishy washy vote and my agreement he leapt on that as an opportunity to justify said suspicion.
3. He immediately also in contrary proclaimed a suspicion of Colin and I for the very same.
4. Because it was bordering on distance gone wrong.

They both scummo. Scumchuck and Long Con. A perfect pair of pitiful pirate pornstars.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:07 pm Scumchuck how can you rationalise you being town given Bullzeye is, quite clearly, Mafia?

Would you have us believe, Scumchuck, that in swapping you in our esteemed host also flipped your alignment?

Scumchuck, sir, would this be a first in the history of Mafia?

Scumchuck I put it to you that Bullzeye was scum. You upon taking his slot have assumed his scum role and ergo you are also scum.

Can't argue with that.

Ah the old "can't argue with that" defence. A tried and true tactic indeed.

So anyway speed buddied me for a lot of D3. Toyed with joining me in suspecting Jay, then backed off just as he'd previously backed off of suspecting me. And his dancing around at EOD/the way he decided to move to LC right at the end was suspect. And he's inconsistent on Colin, having gone after him during lynchandrezmegate but now saying that was null. Also he took a while to really start participating after the replacement, which I can't help but think could be due to orienting himself to a new team/alignment. Also Bullzeye was clearly bad and I have no reason to think otherwise now that we know he didn't kill Nova. So basically case closed speed is bad and also so is colin.

I don't think Colin is bad.

The rest of what you said is fly. So fly.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:19 pm I don't think Colin is bad.

Why not?

*ahem*

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:17 pm So anyway speed buddied me for a lot of D3. Spent the first half of the day trying to figure out your alignment, which is documented in the thread. Determined that you were likely town.

Toyed with joining me in suspecting Jay, then backed off just as he'd previously backed off of suspecting me. Funny how you criticize me for taking your suspicion, showing interest, following up on it, and coming to a conclusion.

And his dancing around at EOD/the way he decided to move to LC right at the end was suspect. Amazing. I don't actually know what was suspect about this. And you did the same dance I did, only without moving off of glorf after JJJ 'cleared' him.

And he's inconsistent on Colin, having gone after him during lynchandrezmegate but now saying that was null. Criticizing someone for being stupid illogical is not the same thing as calling them scum.

Also he took a while to really start participating after the replacement, which I can't help but think could be due to orienting himself to a new team/alignment. Luna and I were out of town that whole first day, which I again documented. I went south to visit family and preach.

Also Bullzeye was clearly bad and I have no reason to think otherwise now that we know he didn't kill Nova. You were the only one who ever thought that.

So basically case closed speed is bad and also so is colin. Yeah okay you've accused me with quantity and not quality.

Nutella is in the tunnel right now. Mac is just Mac, for better or worse.

If anyone wants to level a case against me, I will engage them. Quite frankly, I'm just happy to be in the game again. I have copious amounts of sarcasm for everyone, and I do not care what comes of it.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:25 pm Nutella is in the tunnel right now. Mac is just Mac, for better or worse.

If anyone wants to level a case against me, I will engage them. Quite frankly, I'm just happy to be in the game again. I have copious amounts of sarcasm for everyone, and I do not care what comes of it.

Not in a tunnel. I'm weighing your responses.

Nutella’s favorite song is Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)

Bad

Speed is tonally town to me but I need to evaluate him as the Glorf thing was weird and Bullzeye looked bad.

[mention]nutella[/mention] one of the things you state is that Bullz was clearly bad. That's not so clear to me (do not make fun of me because everyone else probably understands why you said that). Would you share some specifics on why you see him that way?

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:28 pm Nutella’s favorite song is Arcade Fire - Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)

I mean you're not wrong it's fuckin good

I should clarify I'm talking just about Bullz and not speed's actions or lack thereof.

The mood in Hogwarts was heavy. Everyone suspected one another. Every other day, someone would yell serious accusations at a classmate.

This powder keg blew up one day during dinner at the Great Hall. One student screamed "Why don't we just expel all of Slytherin? It's obvious they are the ones doing it. It's always Slytherin!"

A student from Slytherin got up, angry and fired a spell on his aggressor.

It was a terrible mistake. Before the teachers could say anything, spells were flying everywhere. Students were shooting the best they got at each other, showing off their dueling skills, releasing dangerous pets, and drinking their potions.

- Stop in this instant! - yelled Professor Dunya.

The students slowly stopped attacking. But before the aggression ended, the hall was covered in green light.

Nobody knew who had shot them. And it was too late.

Meanwhile, near forbidden forest, a phoenix cries over a tomb. To heal wounds that cannot be healed. A nearby kid is watching, and another kid arrives at the scene and screams.

- Wait, what are you doing? You can't bring HIM back!

Too late.

Bye bye I'm gonna go vote

Kill a mafia for me vig person

linki: okay thanks

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:31 pm @nutella one of the things you state is that Bullz was clearly bad. That's not so clear to me (do not make fun of me because everyone else probably understands why you said that). Would you share some specifics on why you see him that way?

He posted a lot of ot stuff on d1, then placed a lone vote on Nova instead of in active wagons. After Nova flipped bad this looked like teammate distancing behavior.

Ooof inh is back but LC is gone. K. Rip epi.

Thank you for proving me wrong, night phase. I told you guys to wait for it.

That’s okay since we were going to just lynch LC anyway. Even swap.

Good shot, sir.

What are we supposed to do with a scum-firmed player in the game? Like do we lynch them again? Torture them to find who their teammates are? This has never happened to me before.

Ah shenanigans.

Well killed timmer.

I mean, we know that they have the ability to stop a lynch. If it was a Hallow, then Long Con's killer would have it, not INH.

RIP Epi, I hate to see you gone. Goodbye LC. looking forward to A World Asunder. And INH is back. Bleh.

I don't trust the sorting hat tbh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:41 pm I don't trust the sorting hat tbh.

It just lets you go wherever you want if you ask it.

Good tactic to get us to just waste a day tbh.