Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[TonyStarkPrime]

There’s a difference between like lying and denying reality

[Sloonei]

There’s a difference between like lying and denying reality

There is?

[Kylemii]

There’s a difference between like lying and denying reality

what is this in reference to

[TonyStarkPrime]

There’s a difference between like lying and denying reality

There is?

idk

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.

Including the Alison one he’s pushing hardest?

[KZA]

I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.

Including the Alison one he’s pushing hardest?

well he's not calling her mafia now is he

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: tonystonks] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

There’s a difference between like lying and denying reality

what is this in reference to

Politics.

[Sloonei]

how do we all read marmot?

[falcon45ca]

I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.

i think he was the first to bring up grogu

I was

Bullshit. I call out Grogu at 2:11 on Mon, you call him out at 4:43.


I also called out BK before you, but you've also decided that you were first. Go check the ISO, I'm right. I also have been calling out Rej since....whatever. I've also been on Mac since Monday.


The idea that I'm lifting reads & reasons is false. But you bringing it up is towny, cuz I don't know that you'd push that angle if you were Wolf.

[falcon45ca]

I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.

Including the Alison one he’s pushing hardest?

well he's not calling her mafia now is he

I'm calling her a hostile 3P.

[Marmot]

I should clarify, when I said "a guilty conscience", I was referring to that claim coming from an Enclave mindset, and that's a harder reason to reckon with imo.

Okay but before you said that you said it was "a good look" and then called that "probably likely" (adverb count: 2). Why?

I'm still trying to figure out why he targeted Spacedaisy.


I think that his reaction of admitting it was him is a good look, because Spacedaisy pointed out specifically that it was suspicious to ignore Esooa in whatever thoughts he included. I also think it's a good look for Spacedaisy for even putting it in the thread in the first place, and she came to a similar conclusion.

But.

I don't trust your handling of ChopChop this game, which is why I'm skeptical about it.

Noted.

In the interest of preserving thread sanity I'll drop the act now.

I lied to Marmot at the outset of this conversation. I read the situation opposite to what I told him: Chop is mafia, Daisy is town. I just wanted to see how he'd respond if I held the door open to town-read ChopChop. He kind of took it, and I didn't love that first answer. He walked through the door very gingerly.

Circling back to this, I don't really know why you picked me for this exercise. If ChopChop is indeed wolf, there's no way I start a wagon on him the way I did Day 1.

Anyway, putting my vote on Chop later, but I'll put it back on the catatonic Sloonei for now.


[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

[KZA]

I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.

i think he was the first to bring up grogu

I was

Bullshit. I call out Grogu at 2:11 on Mon, you call him out at 4:43.


I also called out BK before you, but you've also decided that you were first. Go check the ISO, I'm right. I also have been calling out Rej since....whatever. I've also been on Mac since Monday.


The idea that I'm lifting reads & reasons is false. But you bringing it up is towny, cuz I don't know that you'd push that angle if you were Wolf.

well I'm not gonna go check but fine

[falcon45ca]

how do we all read marmot?

I'm not sure right now, but GTH I'd town lean him

[Sloonei]

I should clarify, when I said "a guilty conscience", I was referring to that claim coming from an Enclave mindset, and that's a harder reason to reckon with imo.

Okay but before you said that you said it was "a good look" and then called that "probably likely" (adverb count: 2). Why?

I'm still trying to figure out why he targeted Spacedaisy.


I think that his reaction of admitting it was him is a good look, because Spacedaisy pointed out specifically that it was suspicious to ignore Esooa in whatever thoughts he included. I also think it's a good look for Spacedaisy for even putting it in the thread in the first place, and she came to a similar conclusion.

But.

I don't trust your handling of ChopChop this game, which is why I'm skeptical about it.

Noted.

In the interest of preserving thread sanity I'll drop the act now.

I lied to Marmot at the outset of this conversation. I read the situation opposite to what I told him: Chop is mafia, Daisy is town. I just wanted to see how he'd respond if I held the door open to town-read ChopChop. He kind of took it, and I didn't love that first answer. He walked through the door very gingerly.

Circling back to this, I don't really know why you picked me for this exercise. If ChopChop is indeed wolf, there's no way I start a wagon on him the way I did Day 1.

Anyway, putting my vote on Chop later, but I'll put it back on the catatonic Sloonei for now.


[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

It wasn't like I was sitting around waiting for somebody to give me the opportunity to run that exercise. You just happened to be there and I saw an opportunity to make a play for reactions.

Which team am I on, my furry friend?

[Alison]

KZA you've said you deserve more scrutiny. Why are the mafia treating you with kid gloves? Do you feel like someone is pocketing you?

TSP what tonal differences do you feel like you have between here and Mysterious Universe?

[Sloonei]

how do we all read marmot?

I'm not sure right now, but GTH I'd town lean him

why?

[Marmot]

how do we all read marmot?

tb, ge

[Marmot]

I should clarify, when I said "a guilty conscience", I was referring to that claim coming from an Enclave mindset, and that's a harder reason to reckon with imo.

Okay but before you said that you said it was "a good look" and then called that "probably likely" (adverb count: 2). Why?

I'm still trying to figure out why he targeted Spacedaisy.


I think that his reaction of admitting it was him is a good look, because Spacedaisy pointed out specifically that it was suspicious to ignore Esooa in whatever thoughts he included. I also think it's a good look for Spacedaisy for even putting it in the thread in the first place, and she came to a similar conclusion.

But.

I don't trust your handling of ChopChop this game, which is why I'm skeptical about it.

Noted.

In the interest of preserving thread sanity I'll drop the act now.

I lied to Marmot at the outset of this conversation. I read the situation opposite to what I told him: Chop is mafia, Daisy is town. I just wanted to see how he'd respond if I held the door open to town-read ChopChop. He kind of took it, and I didn't love that first answer. He walked through the door very gingerly.

Circling back to this, I don't really know why you picked me for this exercise. If ChopChop is indeed wolf, there's no way I start a wagon on him the way I did Day 1.

Anyway, putting my vote on Chop later, but I'll put it back on the catatonic Sloonei for now.


[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

It wasn't like I was sitting around waiting for somebody to give me the opportunity to run that exercise. You just happened to be there and I saw an opportunity to make a play for reactions.

Which team am I on, my furry friend?

This thread is full of mind-boggling behaviors isn't it?

[Sloonei]

This thread is full of mind-boggling behaviors isn't it?

it truly is.

Which team am I on?

[Marmot]

This thread is full of mind-boggling behaviors isn't it?

it truly is.

Which team am I on?

[Sloonei]

This thread is full of mind-boggling behaviors isn't it?

it truly is.

Which team am I on?

One of the main points in your suspicion of me an hour ago was my repeated shielding of chopchop. How have recent events changed your view of me?

[Marmot]

This thread is full of mind-boggling behaviors isn't it?

it truly is.

Which team am I on?

One of the main points in your suspicion of me an hour ago was my repeated shielding of chopchop. How have recent events changed your view of me?

Was it?

[falcon45ca]

how do we all read marmot?

I'm not sure right now, but GTH I'd town lean him

why?

Why am I not sure, or why GTH town lean?

[Sloonei]

This thread is full of mind-boggling behaviors isn't it?

it truly is.

Which team am I on?

One of the main points in your suspicion of me an hour ago was my repeated shielding of chopchop. How have recent events changed your view of me?

Was it?

Yep

[Sloonei]

how do we all read marmot?

I'm not sure right now, but GTH I'd town lean him

why?

Why am I not sure, or why GTH town lean?

Whichever you prefer, I guess.

[staypositivefriend]

how do we all read marmot?

probably scum, sadly

i just caught up

[Sloonei]

how do we all read marmot?

probably scum, sadly

i just caught up

Why?

[falcon45ca]

how do we all read marmot?

I'm not sure right now, but GTH I'd town lean him

why?

Why am I not sure, or why GTH town lean?

Whichever you prefer, I guess.

GTH town lean is just a gut feel, same way you pick a card, any card.


Not sure yet cuz I haven't devoted much time to trying to solve them. I'm content to let other shake the tree & see what falls

[Sloonei]

Why is marmot scum, not why did you catch up

[Marmot]

How does a scum team of Urist, ChopChop, Mac, and Martin sound?

[KZA]

KZA you've said you deserve more scrutiny. Why are the mafia treating you with kid gloves? Do you feel like someone is pocketing you?

TSP what tonal differences do you feel like you have between here and Mysterious Universe?

well I asked earlier why nobody seemed to care that I pushed BK (who was town and arguably LHF) and I got 0 responses

My theory was a lot of wolves have to be on that wagon so they couldn't push me over it without appearing hypocritical

Does my theory make sense or is my push just NAI to the rest of you guys?

and yes Falcon did bring up BK first but I had a significant hand in substantiating it

[Sloonei]

How does a scum team of Urist, ChopChop, Mac, and Martin sound?

I’d have trouble squeezing urist in there, but I could see the rest pretty easily.

However I don’t like searching for whole teams at once.

[falcon45ca]

KZA you've said you deserve more scrutiny. Why are the mafia treating you with kid gloves? Do you feel like someone is pocketing you?

TSP what tonal differences do you feel like you have between here and Mysterious Universe?

well I asked earlier why nobody seemed to care that I pushed BK (who was town and arguably LHF) and I got 0 responses

My theory was a lot of wolves have to be on that wagon so they couldn't push me over it without appearing hypocritical

Does my theory make sense or is my push just NAI to the rest of you guys?

and yes Falcon did bring up BK first but I had a significant hand in substantiating it

Can confirm

[Marmot]

How does a scum team of Urist, ChopChop, Mac, and Martin sound?

I’d have trouble squeezing urist in there, but I could see the rest pretty easily.

However I don’t like searching for whole teams at once.

Fair.

I'm looking at Urist for sheeping your vote on me. I don't recall him mentioning a reason to suspect me.

The other two are both independently not townie, and compatible with Chop Chop.

[falcon45ca]

@KZA who do you like for scum on the BK wagon?

[TonyStarkPrime]

How does a scum team of Urist, ChopChop, Mac, and Martin sound?

Urist and Chop not w/w, I think Mac is town but eh.

[Sloonei]

How does a scum team of Urist, ChopChop, Mac, and Martin sound?

I’d have trouble squeezing urist in there, but I could see the rest pretty easily.

However I don’t like searching for whole teams at once.

Fair.

I'm looking at Urist for sheeping your vote on me. I don't recall him mentioning a reason to suspect me.

The other two are both independently not townie, and compatible with Chop Chop.

Urist has been light on giving reasons this game in general.

[Sloonei]

I do not suspect him for that.

[Marmot]

i think i know who eldridge is anyway LOL

here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

Who did you think it was? You obviously didn't think it was me.

Marmot. I thought his "i won't bother reading c4" was bc he had shot him.

If you think I'm Eldridge, why are you voting for me Urist?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Alison my feeling is that in Mysterious Universe I intentionally gave wide SRs and shorter posts to flood the thread. I had 20 percent of the total posts in that game or something. Here I’ve posted less and longer (part due to circumstance) and I’ve taken more deliberate stances in the thread.

[TonyStarkPrime]

i think i know who eldridge is anyway LOL

here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

Who did you think it was? You obviously didn't think it was me.

Marmot. I thought his "i won't bother reading c4" was bc he had shot him.

If you think I'm Eldridge, why are you voting for me Urist?

Mind blown again

[KZA]

@KZA who do you like for scum on the BK wagon?

probably Rej and maybe Urist

Grogu is obviously not great but I'm hesitant there for now, would like to see if he actually talks a bit

I was also tinfoiling Sloonei yesterday but not really today

[Sloonei]

i think i know who eldridge is anyway LOL

here's a spicy take

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

Who did you think it was? You obviously didn't think it was me.

Marmot. I thought his "i won't bother reading c4" was bc he had shot him.

If you think I'm Eldridge, why are you voting for me Urist?

Mind blown again

You both will note the use of past tense in Urist’s post.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Oh I did

[staypositivefriend]

how do we all read marmot?

probably scum, sadly

i just caught up

Why?

mostly tone. i thought the way he handled the questioning from you a page or two ago felt distinctly uncomfortable and like he was dancing around taking a specific stance:

I should clarify, when I said "a guilty conscience", I was referring to that claim coming from an Enclave mindset, and that's a harder reason to reckon with imo.

Okay but before you said that you said it was "a good look" and then called that "probably likely" (adverb count: 2). Why?

I'm still trying to figure out why he targeted Spacedaisy.


I think that his reaction of admitting it was him is a good look, because Spacedaisy pointed out specifically that it was suspicious to ignore Esooa in whatever thoughts he included. I also think it's a good look for Spacedaisy for even putting it in the thread in the first place, and she came to a similar conclusion.

But.

I don't trust your handling of ChopChop this game, which is why I'm skeptical about it.

^^^this is basically a "nothing" post that has the beginnings of a specific stance and then circles back to neutral

Another question, if Chop is a lone townie, why does he send the message to Spacedaisy?

^^i also kind of felt like this was marmot shopping around to see if the "why would chopchop do this as scum?" line of reasoning would pick up any momentum

i dont think any of this is lockwolf stuff for marmot, but i dont like it

[KZA]

I don't feel very good about Marmot either

[Marmot]

how do we all read marmot?

probably scum, sadly

i just caught up

Why?

mostly tone. i thought the way he handled the questioning from you a page or two ago felt distinctly uncomfortable and like he was dancing around taking a specific stance:

I should clarify, when I said "a guilty conscience", I was referring to that claim coming from an Enclave mindset, and that's a harder reason to reckon with imo.

Okay but before you said that you said it was "a good look" and then called that "probably likely" (adverb count: 2). Why?

I'm still trying to figure out why he targeted Spacedaisy.


I think that his reaction of admitting it was him is a good look, because Spacedaisy pointed out specifically that it was suspicious to ignore Esooa in whatever thoughts he included. I also think it's a good look for Spacedaisy for even putting it in the thread in the first place, and she came to a similar conclusion.

But.

I don't trust your handling of ChopChop this game, which is why I'm skeptical about it.

^^^this is basically a "nothing" post that has the beginnings of a specific stance and then circles back to neutral

Another question, if Chop is a lone townie, why does he send the message to Spacedaisy?

^^i also kind of felt like this was marmot shopping around to see if the "why would chopchop do this as scum?" line of reasoning would pick up any momentum

i dont think any of this is lockwolf stuff for marmot, but i dont like it

I really do think anyone looking at the possibility that ChopChop and I could be partners should go back and look at posts like this.

[MartinGG99]

The other two are both independently not townie

To clarify, is this more strictly a "not townie" read, or a more "they're scummy" read?

[MartinGG99]

wait wth

Sloon has 495 posts so far

more than the next 2 top posters combined