Mafia Misplay Mafia

[Sabiplz]

@DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

[DrWilgy]

If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.

Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho

Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.

Hold on, why a difference check as opposed to "not teammates?"

I kinda glossed over Mac saying Lily and me were a difference check when I read this morning, because I had already sorta read the posts last night, but Mac actually directly saying that makes Lily's decision to abide by it and go onto me a bit more interesting

She also was saying for some reason there was a difference check in me/Mac or whatever, one wolf between us at least

So I know this was awhile back, but going through notifications, if you've already answered the question just lmk and I'll look.

What do you make of these difference checks and why describe Lily's take as interesting? It's like there's a thought here I can't follow.

Do you think there's merit in this odd diff triangle?

I mean I can explain if rly necessary but I think Lily's town now anyways so I don't rly care much. And I don't care much about the "one wolf in first 3 votes" thing. I think Mac can be a wolf rn though if it matters

An explanation would aid me in my catch-up.

Mac can be a wolf, Lily town. So you think there's no merit to either of the dif checks both with you as an alt?

Like does Lily's claimed dif check affect your "Mac can be wolf"?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

tbh i think sitting ur vote on a 0 poster for like most of the day cycle isnt very towny and shows a lack of wanting to poke at places and scumhunt

i understand this is apparently fine for neon but idk it just seems so lazy

What can I say. I'm lazy. Or I don't like zero posters. Or I believed Jack could be woof and I don't like zero posters. Something like that.

Now that Jack is here who are you going to vote

HK Santy or Jack probably

[Sabiplz]

I'm promoting santy to top town read

Disappointed.

I did it to disappoint u all

What did we do to deserve this

[DrWilgy]

I miss @DrWilgy

I miss you too Sabi!

Been abit busy today getting ready for a trip with the wiif and the moment I thought I had some free time I spilled some resin IPA mix all over myself and had to soak in the cold shower for a good 30 min to prevent any irritation damage so that was fun.

I'll have a moment to continue my catchup soonish, but I did promise some league games with a buddy, so promises take precedent.

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

[santygrass]

So who will you look to go for going into eod

I don't like both ender and hk wagons so I might go to Jack or Achro or mac or stick to santy. Just don't like those two wagons.

I'm not big on ender wagon either but I'd rather ender over HK today. I do find it plausible that enders FE pact was an attempt at friendly pocketing from a wolf
I'd go santy over mac or achro or jack today

Join me on santy.

UwU

Hmmmm idk I worry santy is miss and I'd feel a fool for lhf

Is santy actually lhf? I don't think so. He's just poe'd

I think santy playing braindead for over 50% of their posts makes them lhf

Only 50% of them? I think you're keeping that number low

[Lilypetal]

I'm promoting santy to top town read

Disappointed.

I did it to disappoint u all

What did we do to deserve this

Absolutely nothing I just am stupid and gay and thought it would be funny

[Esooa]

Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho

Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.

Hold on, why a difference check as opposed to "not teammates?"

I kinda glossed over Mac saying Lily and me were a difference check when I read this morning, because I had already sorta read the posts last night, but Mac actually directly saying that makes Lily's decision to abide by it and go onto me a bit more interesting

She also was saying for some reason there was a difference check in me/Mac or whatever, one wolf between us at least

So I know this was awhile back, but going through notifications, if you've already answered the question just lmk and I'll look.

What do you make of these difference checks and why describe Lily's take as interesting? It's like there's a thought here I can't follow.

Do you think there's merit in this odd diff triangle?

I mean I can explain if rly necessary but I think Lily's town now anyways so I don't rly care much. And I don't care much about the "one wolf in first 3 votes" thing. I think Mac can be a wolf rn though if it matters

An explanation would aid me in my catch-up.

Mac can be a wolf, Lily town. So you think there's no merit to either of the dif checks both with you as an alt?

Like does Lily's claimed dif check affect your "Mac can be wolf"?

no, I don't really care about either of them

[Sabiplz]

I don't think I can trust my oven atm so what should I order for dinner.

[Porscha]

@DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

The diff check thing between them also kinda fucked me up

[Porscha]

I don't think I can trust my oven atm so what should I order for dinner.

Thai food

[Porscha]

I don't like both ender and hk wagons so I might go to Jack or Achro or mac or stick to santy. Just don't like those two wagons.

I'm not big on ender wagon either but I'd rather ender over HK today. I do find it plausible that enders FE pact was an attempt at friendly pocketing from a wolf
I'd go santy over mac or achro or jack today

Join me on santy.

UwU

Hmmmm idk I worry santy is miss and I'd feel a fool for lhf

Is santy actually lhf? I don't think so. He's just poe'd

I think santy playing braindead for over 50% of their posts makes them lhf

Only 50% of them? I think you're keeping that number low

It was definitely conservative but I missed a few pages since last night so I thought I'd give benefit of the doubt

[Lilypetal]

I miss @DrWilgy

I miss you too Sabi!

Been abit busy today getting ready for a trip with the wiif and the moment I thought I had some free time I spilled some resin IPA mix all over myself and had to soak in the cold shower for a good 30 min to prevent any irritation damage so that was fun.

I'll have a moment to continue my catchup soonish, but I did promise some league games with a buddy, so promises take precedent.

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

I play some league and my least favorite mechanic is being attacked for being a woman every game

[Sabiplz]

@DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

The diff check thing between them also kinda fucked me up

(I don't get difference checks)

(I feel like it's a relatively new thing because I haven't heard about it till like a couple of games ago)

[santygrass]

I disagree. My lawyer advise I not talk about him due to my death tunnel so I will decline to comment further.

So who will you look to go for going into eod

I don't like both ender and hk wagons so I might go to Jack or Achro or mac or stick to santy. Just don't like those two wagons.

I'm not big on ender wagon either but I'd rather ender over HK today. I do find it plausible that enders FE pact was an attempt at friendly pocketing from a wolf
I'd go santy over mac or achro or jack today

Im not following this line of thought

The bolded I dont follow . Like, who are you talking about and who would be pocketed/ why? That kindoff stuff that Im not understanding cuz Skill Issue in reading probs

You're good, it was from much earlier in the game. FE = fire emblem
When me lily and ender were talking about fe, ender prompted a fe pact between the 3 of us. Lily also wanted santy added when they came back to thread
I soon after accused ender of TMI'ing me when he responded to a post by achro stating that I was town, and that's when I first voted for ender

Ahhh gotcha. It was because I also put ender in a towncore cuz of those fe posts. The TMI part after I had completely forgotten wowee

[Porscha]

I miss @DrWilgy

I miss you too Sabi!

Been abit busy today getting ready for a trip with the wiif and the moment I thought I had some free time I spilled some resin IPA mix all over myself and had to soak in the cold shower for a good 30 min to prevent any irritation damage so that was fun.

I'll have a moment to continue my catchup soonish, but I did promise some league games with a buddy, so promises take precedent.

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

No moba is good and I will not be talking about dota and league but you cant surrender in dota so that's a no go from me dawg

[Porscha]

So who will you look to go for going into eod

I don't like both ender and hk wagons so I might go to Jack or Achro or mac or stick to santy. Just don't like those two wagons.

I'm not big on ender wagon either but I'd rather ender over HK today. I do find it plausible that enders FE pact was an attempt at friendly pocketing from a wolf
I'd go santy over mac or achro or jack today

Im not following this line of thought

The bolded I dont follow . Like, who are you talking about and who would be pocketed/ why? That kindoff stuff that Im not understanding cuz Skill Issue in reading probs

You're good, it was from much earlier in the game. FE = fire emblem
When me lily and ender were talking about fe, ender prompted a fe pact between the 3 of us. Lily also wanted santy added when they came back to thread
I soon after accused ender of TMI'ing me when he responded to a post by achro stating that I was town, and that's when I first voted for ender

Ahhh gotcha. It was because I also put ender in a towncore cuz of those fe posts. The TMI part after I had completely forgotten wowee

I literally dont think anyone noticed or mentioned it except ender who accused me of breaking the fe pact so quickly lol

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

Yis.

The diff check thing stands out to me, mainly because it's a VERY specific thing to see and claim exists.

Mac's claim of one is also based on 2 factors that can be false, unless he knows them to be true ofc. Which fills me with doubt. That also didn't feel like Confident Mac, it felt like tactical Mac.

Lily's claim on a check between Esooa and Mac I haven't seen reasoning for yet, but also seems strange, but less AI because of lessened context.

Lastly Esooa's take on it stands out to me as I see this as significant. I however know I see things as important sometimes that truly are nothing.

Simply put, I want more data.

[Lilypetal]

@DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

Yis.

The diff check thing stands out to me, mainly because it's a VERY specific thing to see and claim exists.

Mac's claim of one is also based on 2 factors that can be false, unless he knows them to be true ofc. Which fills me with doubt. That also didn't feel like Confident Mac, it felt like tactical Mac.

Lily's claim on a check between Esooa and Mac I haven't seen reasoning for yet, but also seems strange, but less AI because of lessened context.

Lastly Esooa's take on it stands out to me as I see this as significant. I however know I see things as important sometimes that truly are nothing.

Simply put, I want more data.

I said any of that so long ago that I forgot why tbh

At this point esooa is obv town mac isn't that's all I know

[Esooa]

Ender/HK at 5/5 is more of the tension I was talking about us lacking earlier

I think it's pretty likely one between them

[DrWilgy]

I miss @DrWilgy

I miss you too Sabi!

Been abit busy today getting ready for a trip with the wiif and the moment I thought I had some free time I spilled some resin IPA mix all over myself and had to soak in the cold shower for a good 30 min to prevent any irritation damage so that was fun.

I'll have a moment to continue my catchup soonish, but I did promise some league games with a buddy, so promises take precedent.

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

I play some league and my least favorite mechanic is being attacked for being a woman every game

Moving to OT green, but I am sorry that happens. I am curious as to how gender comes up in that environment. Is it all assumption? I tend to not apply gender to other players when I think it's impossible to know. I.e. a 5v5 virtual arena of cartoon characters punching each other.

[DrWilgy]

I miss @DrWilgy

I miss you too Sabi!

Been abit busy today getting ready for a trip with the wiif and the moment I thought I had some free time I spilled some resin IPA mix all over myself and had to soak in the cold shower for a good 30 min to prevent any irritation damage so that was fun.

I'll have a moment to continue my catchup soonish, but I did promise some league games with a buddy, so promises take precedent.

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

No moba is good and I will not be talking about dota and league but you cant surrender in dota so that's a no go from me dawg

Never quit, never surrender, jail my teammates for some reason!

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

Yis.

The diff check thing stands out to me, mainly because it's a VERY specific thing to see and claim exists.

Mac's claim of one is also based on 2 factors that can be false, unless he knows them to be true ofc. Which fills me with doubt. That also didn't feel like Confident Mac, it felt like tactical Mac.

Lily's claim on a check between Esooa and Mac I haven't seen reasoning for yet, but also seems strange, but less AI because of lessened context.

Lastly Esooa's take on it stands out to me as I see this as significant. I however know I see things as important sometimes that truly are nothing.

Simply put, I want more data.

I said any of that so long ago that I forgot why tbh

At this point esooa is obv town mac isn't that's all I know

Why is Esooa town?

[Lilypetal]

I miss you too Sabi!

Been abit busy today getting ready for a trip with the wiif and the moment I thought I had some free time I spilled some resin IPA mix all over myself and had to soak in the cold shower for a good 30 min to prevent any irritation damage so that was fun.

I'll have a moment to continue my catchup soonish, but I did promise some league games with a buddy, so promises take precedent.

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

I play some league and my least favorite mechanic is being attacked for being a woman every game

Moving to OT green, but I am sorry that happens. I am curious as to how gender comes up in that environment. Is it all assumption? I tend to not apply gender to other players when I think it's impossible to know. I.e. a 5v5 virtual arena of cartoon characters punching each other.

I don't know how to do the green text sry but I just have a feminine name so ppl assume and are toxic

[Lilypetal]

@DrWilgy whenever you catch up and get situated can I get your updated thots and world view

Sure thing. I'm still currently in the boat of:
I had some real W vibes towards Neon and Wiggin.

No notification responses have modified that.

This whole Mac/Esooa/Lily diff check thing is odd and I'm not sure what it makes me think of the three.

By Wiggins do you mean ender?

Hmmm expand on the difference check thing?

Yis.

The diff check thing stands out to me, mainly because it's a VERY specific thing to see and claim exists.

Mac's claim of one is also based on 2 factors that can be false, unless he knows them to be true ofc. Which fills me with doubt. That also didn't feel like Confident Mac, it felt like tactical Mac.

Lily's claim on a check between Esooa and Mac I haven't seen reasoning for yet, but also seems strange, but less AI because of lessened context.

Lastly Esooa's take on it stands out to me as I see this as significant. I however know I see things as important sometimes that truly are nothing.

Simply put, I want more data.

I said any of that so long ago that I forgot why tbh

At this point esooa is obv town mac isn't that's all I know

Why is Esooa town?

I'm abt to be busy so I can't reply with much but it's in my iso

[santygrass]

Was thinking of making it about sabi & me, but I think this way fits better

[DrWilgy]

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

I play some league and my least favorite mechanic is being attacked for being a woman every game

Moving to OT green, but I am sorry that happens. I am curious as to how gender comes up in that environment. Is it all assumption? I tend to not apply gender to other players when I think it's impossible to know. I.e. a 5v5 virtual arena of cartoon characters punching each other.

I don't know how to do the green text sry but I just have a feminine name so ppl assume and are toxic

I see. Sorry, that shit ain't right

[santygrass]

Wilgs what are your reads?

[Achromatic]

I was going to read but then my partner wanted to spend time with me, curses.

Like the wagon formations though.

[Lilypetal]

I was going to read but then my partner wanted to spend time with me, curses.

Like the wagon formations though.

your partner is a wolf

[Achromatic]

I was going to read but then my partner wanted to spend time with me, curses.

Like the wagon formations though.

your partner is a wolf

No, she's a fox.

[Sabiplz]

I'm lonely

[Lilypetal]

I was going to read but then my partner wanted to spend time with me, curses.

Like the wagon formations though.

your partner is a wolf

No, she's a fox.

oh well close? i think

[Sabiplz]

Was thinking of making it about sabi & me, but I think this way fits better

I love this a lot

[santygrass]

Technically the votes are 6-4 taking hk vote into account if they self press btw

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

ill vote with queek

I worry about the company of men you keep smh

im not voting BECAUSE of him it's rly because of esooa tbh but he had just voted so i went fuck it me too

i do not deal with men smh the slander is insane

I deal men. *opens coat slyly* what kind you looking for?

Can you give me a man that is a copy of my boyfriend to keep me company when he leaves for 4 days every week lol

Do u think ur other boyfriend would get jealous of the copy? Cuz like the copy is him but not him like I feel like I'd be extra jealous of a copy of myself doing anything it's like bro why are u me I'm me stop eating that icecream and give it to me I'm the real me

I dunno be doesn't really seem like the jealous type. There was a point at the beginning of our relationship where I freaked out and tried to Sabotage our relationship and like I didn't cheat or anything but I was flirting with a girl and he was like "yo if you wanna experiment you can I will still be here" and uh...I dunno. I really love him though and I hate when he's gone. I'm a child.

[Lilypetal]

ill vote with queek

I worry about the company of men you keep smh

im not voting BECAUSE of him it's rly because of esooa tbh but he had just voted so i went fuck it me too

i do not deal with men smh the slander is insane

I deal men. *opens coat slyly* what kind you looking for?

Can you give me a man that is a copy of my boyfriend to keep me company when he leaves for 4 days every week lol

Do u think ur other boyfriend would get jealous of the copy? Cuz like the copy is him but not him like I feel like I'd be extra jealous of a copy of myself doing anything it's like bro why are u me I'm me stop eating that icecream and give it to me I'm the real me

I dunno be doesn't really seem like the jealous type. There was a point at the beginning of our relationship where I freaked out and tried to Sabotage our relationship and like I didn't cheat or anything but I was flirting with a girl and he was like "yo if you wanna experiment you can I will still be here" and uh...I dunno. I really love him though and I hate when he's gone. I'm a child.

based boyfriend

[Lilypetal]

okay well im busy now so im keeping vote on hk if he flips V i will blame someone else but feel bad on the inside for going back on my initial TR

gl

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I don't have any scum reads either tbf

and posts like this from Neon are the kind that I kinda feel is towny but it's also rly dumb just cause I think a wolf wouldn't be so expressively useless lol, like at this point I'd think they at least be trying to do stuff rather than just say they're lost ig so it feels more believable that they're just town and lost. I'm not rly sure on it though cause it's the kinda read where if it's wrong it's the worst thing ever so I'd almost rather she just dies so I can know lol but for now I think I'll just let her be

I was gonna say something like yes kill me please I signed up for too many games... but like one of my other multi tabs quick hammered an hour into the phase today and also I'm keeping up just fine...

I just suck at scum hunting. I got town reads though... not many but they are there. A player told me that my PoE should just be anyone I don't TR lol.

Don't forget our game starts on Monday uwu :3

[Sabiplz]

Good morning @EnderWiggin

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I miss @DrWilgy

I miss you too Sabi!

Been abit busy today getting ready for a trip with the wiif and the moment I thought I had some free time I spilled some resin IPA mix all over myself and had to soak in the cold shower for a good 30 min to prevent any irritation damage so that was fun.

I'll have a moment to continue my catchup soonish, but I did promise some league games with a buddy, so promises take precedent.

we stan moba players even if it's a bad one

*I mean, I preferrrr dodo*

Ima stop you there. No moba is good

I'd think one can dislike the genre while still acknowledging pros and cons of a game that make it good/bad

I play some league and my least favorite mechanic is being attacked for being a woman every game

Sames. Truly love it when I have a bad game on Jinx and get told I should never ADC cause girl hurr durr

I main mid now though so... maybe it'll get better hahaha I know

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Reading mafia games in a laundromat is actually kinda a vibe ngl

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

*sings*

All by myselfff againnnnnn

[Sabiplz]

*sings*

All by myselfff againnnnnn

Hi

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

*sings*

All by myselfff againnnnnn

Hi

Hewwo

[Sabiplz]

*sings*

All by myselfff againnnnnn

Hi

Hewwo

What do I do

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

*sings*

All by myselfff againnnnnn

Hi

Hewwo

What do I do

Probably vote between ender and HK even if I very much do agree with your Santy read at a base level.

I think Santy has been doing some things, way more than you give credit for but they aren't unfakeable and the way Santy is approaching pressure on the slot and reiterating the same 3 things any time they are called scummy is sus ngl

But if the wagons with traction I'm probably on HK. I thought HK started meh picked up in the middle to townie ish and than dropped off the side of the cliff the last little bit and I'm more comfortable there than on Ender

So ender is probably pocketing me and woof xD

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Neon with the effort post.

[santygrass]

What things do you think Im reiterating?

[Achromatic]

Okay I have re-read HK and I am deleting my hedge. If this is wolf HK I officially will not try to read HK ever again without assistance lol