The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:25 pm TSP's posts are suspicious.
well at least that’s interesting

scum would either give heat to JJJ/nutella tizzy
or scum would lay low during a tizzy
or scum would sidecomment the tizzy

IF the tizzy is a towntizzy, so if JJJ is town I understand his read here, which simply puts you into the corner of suspects

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:24 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:29 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:23 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:22 pm I mean I was literally parodying myself in that ISO.
Oh I got that, lol. I just found it suspicious rather than just trying to have fun. I can get behind fun. As long as it's not anti-town.
Hot take: Fun is inherently anti-alignment for whoever’s having it.
Lmao that's a very hot take that would prove mafia is a bad game, like literally bad at being a game bc games are supposed to be fun to do well at. Like I guess many games are stressful and people get a certain kind of pleasure from the stress though
I play a lot of board games at various levels of competition (I was at a point regional scholastic chess champion and I play mtg and heroclix at various competitive levels). When you’re playing at top levels it’s not “fun”, at least by the common sense. There’s still satisfaction, there’s still enjoyment, but it’s not “fun”. Mafia works the same way. When you’re competing, and like actually competing, it gets more stressful and the enjoyment isn’t from any sort of amusement even if to some people that can be a better experience.
FYI I’m a top level mafia player and on average roughly 50% of my content is jokes. So. You’re living your entire life incorrectly, bro.

I don't understand why "top level mafiaplayer" make so many jokes and include fluff, they rather should leave space to get reads from others and intrigue the ones with a different alignment, this confuses me lol

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:08 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:58 pm Ah you grouped them as both suspecting Jay. Drago came to it independently though while jack just sheeped me.
That’s worse. Scum puts in more effort. Drago came in, said something someone else had said, came up with basically the same reasoning, and that was it. I wouldn’t call that coming to it independently
If scum puts in more effort and what you're describing my entrance is little to no effort then shouldn't it be inherently better instead of worse based on your own logic?

I honestly don't like TSPs wifom here, saying scum would put in more effort, I have seen it otherwise so many times, each side has their own way of putting in effort. Each sides has it's pros to utilize, that's why this D0 statement of TSP is cwac and not correct.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:52 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:47 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:01 pm I wanna know why @MacDougall scumread the host.
me too, this was the most halfassed post I have seen for a while, it's maybe because it's D0 and he is comfortable and careless which tends for me to be town mentality

adding short P2 reads here:

nutella wants to start a wagon on JJJ and her post of linking me a JC to start a vote on JJJ made it look like she tried to get us to vote JJJ together
Dragomir flows alongside nutella, questioning people

so 2 options: both are town and rly see a threat in the JJJ tizzy or both are the mafia that wants to play as towncore
I exclude second for now because this would be way too agressive for mafia (especially D0) and mafia always wants to reach lylo/mylo without risks in this size of setup and I think Dragomir and nutella should be aware of this

more posts to come, but excuse my lazy ass
Why are you discounting that just one could be scum here?

I had to google what discount means, dafug this wording man xD
I said I include a nutella + Dragomir combo as possible and with the setupsize I already speculated on there being more than one scum, clearly. A 1 v 10 sounds too imbalanced.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:53 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:40 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:37 amIs that last list those who you think are scum or got an FoS on?
We’ll call it the “I don’t town read you, so until I do you might as well be a bad guy” tier. Long Con can be included too via shrugs.

This feels rather lazy and too simplistic. I can't say I like how you keep dropping off the list of reads on everyone. It feels tryhard and fake contributing. It doesn't come across as genuine to me. I'd also like to point out how in this game you're doing a little less if not the exact same amount in terms of productivity as you did in the scrimmage game. I was taught there that town Jay does more contributing than scum Jay. I'm not seeing that right now. It might be a flawed comparison based on it just being D0 and the other was a full game but it's something I've been having on my mind for awhile.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:59 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am scum would either give heat to JJJ/nutella tizzy
or scum would lay low during a tizzy
or scum would sidecomment the tizzy

IF the tizzy is a towntizzy, so if JJJ is town I understand his read here, which simply puts you into the corner of suspects

Ah! I completely forgot how scum usually operates in t/t tizzies. They do one or more of these 3 things. I remember now how Beky did the same in the Hogwarts game against you, or how NeoRetro played when I was in a tizzy. TSP is acting like this. Scum generally does lay low and let the townies go at each other's throats or opportunistically jump in to push the mislynch. Good job Rej.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 amI honestly don't like TSPs wifom here, saying scum would put in more effort, I have seen it otherwise so many times, each side has their own way of putting in effort. Each sides has it's pros to utilize, that's why this D0 statement of TSP is cwac and not correct.

I agree, somewhat.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am**

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:53 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:40 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:37 amIs that last list those who you think are scum or got an FoS on?
We’ll call it the “I don’t town read you, so until I do you might as well be a bad guy” tier. Long Con can be included too via shrugs.
This feels rather lazy and too simplistic. I can't say I like how you keep dropping off the list of reads on everyone. It feels tryhard and fake contributing. It doesn't come across as genuine to me. I'd also like to point out how in this game you're doing a little less if not the exact same amount in terms of productivity as you did in the scrimmage game. I was taught there that town Jay does more contributing than scum Jay. I'm not seeing that right now. It might be a flawed comparison based on it just being D0 and the other was a full game but it's something I've been having on my mind for awhile.

POE Will Set You Free (TM) my dude. It’s easier for me to identify civilians than it is for me to identify mafia, and that is my immediate focus.

In terms of effort, whatever. You’ll know it when you see it I suspect. Help me lynch a mafioso quickly so I can explode.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:31 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:28 pm nutella, my sticking point with you is the speed at which you became frustrated with me. I don't want you to drag up crappy vibes anymore than you do, but it'd be swell if you could try to explain what precisely pissed you off so much for the sake of my read okay cool thanks.
I got really annoyed due to a perception I had that your goofy-just-for-laughs approach was anti-town. Kinda hard to put it into words, but I hated how you made that fake post about Mac just because there was no other content and made no attempt to kickstart anything that would actually be productive in scumhunting. I guess this is kind of contradictory since I myself decided the post could and did generate reactions that led to content, but something about you specifically as a player and how you began engaging with the game really set me off. Then your post about just wanting to have a laugh and not get all tightass stressed about mafia struck a chord with me so I chilled out.

For the record, anything that I do that looks suspicious is actually me just trying to get a reaction.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am**

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:38 pm nutella and JJJ are like Tom Brady and Antonio Brown.

Overachieving teammates who work for the devil.
Oh, Epi happens to be town with me once again

Why do you townread Epi?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:27 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:07 pm Wow sorry guys I totally missed the start of this game, I will catch up soon I promise. I will just go sleep now... count me in to fully play then!
Bad idea.

Players who miss the early party are more likely to get lynched D1.

Since when bro? lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:43 pm I will point out that nutella and JJJ have had nothing to say about me.

Just like the NFL.
Two problems:

1) As of my last post in this thread, you had made one (1) post -- to cast suspicion upon the Miami Dolphins. What exactly is someone supposed to say about you?

2) The number of times each player had mentioned or responded to Epignosis as of my last post:

Creature - 0
Dragomir - 0
Jackofhearts2005 - 0
JaggedJimmyJay - 2 (one in my silly ISO)
Long Con - 0
MacDougall - 1
nutella - 0
Rej - 0
sprityo - 0
TonyStarkPrime - 0

So, that's clearly not a real thought. You're bad.

I like that for simply no reason

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:02 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:42 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:37 pm

If I had a townread on Jay, I'd point out that he's going after me.
This is a rather curious post. I'll have to marinate on it.

Did you not get the joke?

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:05 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:00 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:31 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:28 pm nutella, my sticking point with you is the speed at which you became frustrated with me. I don't want you to drag up crappy vibes anymore than you do, but it'd be swell if you could try to explain what precisely pissed you off so much for the sake of my read okay cool thanks.
I got really annoyed due to a perception I had that your goofy-just-for-laughs approach was anti-town. Kinda hard to put it into words, but I hated how you made that fake post about Mac just because there was no other content and made no attempt to kickstart anything that would actually be productive in scumhunting. I guess this is kind of contradictory since I myself decided the post could and did generate reactions that led to content, but something about you specifically as a player and how you began engaging with the game really set me off. Then your post about just wanting to have a laugh and not get all tightass stressed about mafia struck a chord with me so I chilled out.
For the record, anything that I do that looks suspicious is actually me just trying to get a reaction.

Nobody should take this seriously.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:11 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:43 pm I will point out that nutella and JJJ have had nothing to say about me.

Just like the NFL.
Two problems:

1) As of my last post in this thread, you had made one (1) post -- to cast suspicion upon the Miami Dolphins. What exactly is someone supposed to say about you?

2) The number of times each player had mentioned or responded to Epignosis as of my last post:

Creature - 0
Dragomir - 0
Jackofhearts2005 - 0
JaggedJimmyJay - 2 (one in my silly ISO)
Long Con - 0
MacDougall - 1
nutella - 0
Rej - 0
sprityo - 0
TonyStarkPrime - 0

So, that's clearly not a real thought. You're bad.
Funny Jay couldn't find a way to spin my Dolphins comment into a suspicion or vouch?

You're avoiding me. Like Cam Newton avoids questions.
This doesn’t track. Why would JJJ avoid you as scum? Why wouldn’t he as town?
Civilian JJJ is Belichick. He goes after the strongest player. I am the strongest player. He did not do that.

And you are a bad NFL interviewer. Your second question is confusing.

So your only reasoning to push JJJ is meta? I don't like that, if you don't exclude nutella/JJJ combo than why you hardfocus on JJJ.
I was saying back then that scum doesn't have many options to interfere in the nutella/JJJ tizzy and if that tizzy is V/W then you are defending nutella which makes you suspicious.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:14 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:43 pm I will point out that nutella and JJJ have had nothing to say about me.

Just like the NFL.
Two problems:

1) As of my last post in this thread, you had made one (1) post -- to cast suspicion upon the Miami Dolphins. What exactly is someone supposed to say about you?

2) The number of times each player had mentioned or responded to Epignosis as of my last post:

Creature - 0
Dragomir - 0
Jackofhearts2005 - 0
JaggedJimmyJay - 2 (one in my silly ISO)
Long Con - 0
MacDougall - 1
nutella - 0
Rej - 0
sprityo - 0
TonyStarkPrime - 0

So, that's clearly not a real thought. You're bad.
Funny Jay couldn't find a way to spin my Dolphins comment into a suspicion or vouch?

You're avoiding me. Like Cam Newton avoids questions.
This doesn’t track. Why would JJJ avoid you as scum? Why wouldn’t he as town?
Civilian JJJ is Belichick. He goes after the strongest player. I am the strongest player. He did not do that.

And you are a bad NFL interviewer. Your second question is confusing.
But I'm the strongest player though.

False info, I am the strongest

1 page to catch up, dw I will be active afterwards

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:13 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:27 am So Tired of Hearing All Your Boy Problems

Haha hee ho

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:14 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:48 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:28 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:19 am Feels like meta is going to be involved heavily this game.

Already giving me flashbacks of the scrimmage game.
It’s the first time I’ve ever though about meta in terms of spectating. I’m excited about this experimental new Mafia technology!
Someone explain

Jack and I were in the Mafia Universe spectator chat watching nutella and MacDougall representing our site in the wild card game of the champions tournament. That chat is loaded with “honorary civilians” all trying to solve the game in a semi-competitive light via bets and contests. Jack’s gripes at me in this game so far parallel the language and tones of his reads in there.

It might be unorthodox to invoke meta from a non-game space, but I don’t care. I am JaggedJimmyJay, Civilian Hero, Inventor of Exercises, Wielder of the Hammer of Justice, Protector of the Realm, The King of Fart Mountain.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:14 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:01 pm I wanna know why @MacDougall scumread the host.
me too, this was the most halfassed post I have seen for a while, it's maybe because it's D0 and he is comfortable and careless which tends for me to be town mentality

adding short P2 reads here:

nutella wants to start a wagon on JJJ and her post of linking me a JC to start a vote on JJJ made it look like she tried to get us to vote JJJ together
Dragomir flows alongside nutella, questioning people

so 2 options: both are town and rly see a threat in the JJJ tizzy or both are the mafia that wants to play as towncore
I exclude second for now because this would be way too agressive for mafia (especially D0) and mafia always wants to reach lylo/mylo without risks in this size of setup and I think Dragomir and nutella should be aware of this

more posts to come, but excuse my lazy ass

For a sec I thought P2 reads were Persona 2 reads and not page 2 reads and I got all excited.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:15 am**

I don’t know what to do with a Jay I scumread that townreads me. This has never happened before.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:17 am**

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:19 am Feels like meta is going to be involved heavily this game.

Already giving me flashbacks of the scrimmage game.

exactly, that's why I don't like it if people just meta scumread someone, in a setup of this size more questioning should happen, rather than meta reading people and throwing shades, currently it is balanced tho, I have a hard time reading some people but other people give more space to read.
it is flipfloppy and reading back the pages always someone else is put under the gun, but mostly it's JJJ

so some people like Epi for example are avoiding the gun if you know what I mean

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:18 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:15 am I don’t know what to do with a Jay I scumread that townreads me. This has never happened before.

I know what you should do!

Your thing

Just do it. Nike.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:19 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am I’m afraid I have some grievances about that post Rej. You just keep going though and we can talk about that when you’re up to speed.

Okee dokee? Smokey? The Bear?

I just wanted to make more posts, so people can follow my thought process, I have nothing to hide boi

also I didn't want to make a single wall post of doom, just for friendly reasons

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:22 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:19 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am I’m afraid I have some grievances about that post Rej. You just keep going though and we can talk about that when you’re up to speed.

Okee dokee? Smokey? The Bear?
I just wanted to make more posts, so people can follow my thought process, I have nothing to hide boi also I didn't want to make a single wall post of doom, just for friendly reasons

For now our interrogation will have to wait. I’m on my phone and it makes this game way more of a pain in the arse.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am**

Creature
Dragomir
Rej
sprityo
MacDougall

nutella
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime

really rough D0 colourchart

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:24 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am Creature
Dragomir
Rej
sprityo
MacDougall

nutella
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime

really rough D0 colourchart

actually put Jack between green and orange like nutella

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:24 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am I don't understand why "top level mafiaplayer" make so many jokes and include fluff, they rather should leave space to get reads from others and intrigue the ones with a different alignment, this confuses me lol

Mostly cause it’s fun.

But also it keeps mafia from shooting me before I can catch them when I’m town, makes me look to chillax to be mafia when I’m scum and as both alignments, it invites weak sauce attacks that I can then evaluate or shade depending on my alignment.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:25 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:22 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:19 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am I’m afraid I have some grievances about that post Rej. You just keep going though and we can talk about that when you’re up to speed.

Okee dokee? Smokey? The Bear?
I just wanted to make more posts, so people can follow my thought process, I have nothing to hide boi also I didn't want to make a single wall post of doom, just for friendly reasons
For now our interrogation will have to wait. I’m on my phone and it makes this game way more of a pain in the arse.

hope this is no excuse

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:26 am**

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:59 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am scum would either give heat to JJJ/nutella tizzy
or scum would lay low during a tizzy
or scum would sidecomment the tizzy

IF the tizzy is a towntizzy, so if JJJ is town I understand his read here, which simply puts you into the corner of suspects
Ah! I completely forgot how scum usually operates in t/t tizzies. They do one or more of these 3 things. I remember now how Beky did the same in the Hogwarts game against you, or how NeoRetro played when I was in a tizzy. TSP is acting like this. Scum generally does lay low and let the townies go at each other's throats or opportunistically jump in to push the mislynch. Good job Rej.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 amI honestly don't like TSPs wifom here, saying scum would put in more effort, I have seen it otherwise so many times, each side has their own way of putting in effort. Each sides has it's pros to utilize, that's why this D0 statement of TSP is cwac and not correct.
I agree, somewhat.

Scum does one of three things in (x situation): says nothing, says something indirect, says something direct

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:26 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:24 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am I don't understand why "top level mafiaplayer" make so many jokes and include fluff, they rather should leave space to get reads from others and intrigue the ones with a different alignment, this confuses me lol
Mostly cause it’s fun.

But also it keeps mafia from shooting me before I can catch them when I’m town, makes me look to chillax to be mafia when I’m scum and as both alignments, it invites weak sauce attacks that I can then evaluate or shade depending on my alignment.

Valid point in defense of fun

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:26 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:24 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am I don't understand why "top level mafiaplayer" make so many jokes and include fluff, they rather should leave space to get reads from others and intrigue the ones with a different alignment, this confuses me lol
Mostly cause it’s fun.

But also it keeps mafia from shooting me before I can catch them when I’m town, makes me look to chillax to be mafia when I’m scum and as both alignments, it invites weak sauce attacks that I can then evaluate or shade depending on my alignment.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:27 am**

I haven’t figured out how to post images on my phone anybody have a hint to that effect?

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:24 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am I don't understand why "top level mafiaplayer" make so many jokes and include fluff, they rather should leave space to get reads from others and intrigue the ones with a different alignment, this confuses me lol
Mostly cause it’s fun.

But also it keeps mafia from shooting me before I can catch them when I’m town, makes me look to chillax to be mafia when I’m scum and as both alignments, it invites weak sauce attacks that I can then evaluate or shade depending on my alignment.

So basically, you try to omgus people?

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:30 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:22 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:19 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am I’m afraid I have some grievances about that post Rej. You just keep going though and we can talk about that when you’re up to speed.

Okee dokee? Smokey? The Bear?
I just wanted to make more posts, so people can follow my thought process, I have nothing to hide boi also I didn't want to make a single wall post of doom, just for friendly reasons
For now our interrogation will have to wait. I’m on my phone and it makes this game way more of a pain in the arse.
hope this is no excuse

I can’t nestle quotes nicely together and snip! Imagine me just whining obnoxiously like an infant right now.

I like your posts after that first one today more so just keep doing your thing.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:30 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:26 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:59 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am scum would either give heat to JJJ/nutella tizzy
or scum would lay low during a tizzy
or scum would sidecomment the tizzy

IF the tizzy is a towntizzy, so if JJJ is town I understand his read here, which simply puts you into the corner of suspects
Ah! I completely forgot how scum usually operates in t/t tizzies. They do one or more of these 3 things. I remember now how Beky did the same in the Hogwarts game against you, or how NeoRetro played when I was in a tizzy. TSP is acting like this. Scum generally does lay low and let the townies go at each other's throats or opportunistically jump in to push the mislynch. Good job Rej.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 amI honestly don't like TSPs wifom here, saying scum would put in more effort, I have seen it otherwise so many times, each side has their own way of putting in effort. Each sides has it's pros to utilize, that's why this D0 statement of TSP is cwac and not correct.
I agree, somewhat.
Scum does one of three things in (x situation): says nothing, says something indirect, says something direct

it says nothing, but it brings forward lame scum excuses

like this one ^

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:31 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:52 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:47 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:01 pm I wanna know why @MacDougall scumread the host.
me too, this was the most halfassed post I have seen for a while, it's maybe because it's D0 and he is comfortable and careless which tends for me to be town mentality

adding short P2 reads here:

nutella wants to start a wagon on JJJ and her post of linking me a JC to start a vote on JJJ made it look like she tried to get us to vote JJJ together
Dragomir flows alongside nutella, questioning people

so 2 options: both are town and rly see a threat in the JJJ tizzy or both are the mafia that wants to play as towncore
I exclude second for now because this would be way too agressive for mafia (especially D0) and mafia always wants to reach lylo/mylo without risks in this size of setup and I think Dragomir and nutella should be aware of this

more posts to come, but excuse my lazy ass
Why are you discounting that just one could be scum here?
I had to google what discount means, dafug this wording man xD
I said I include a nutella + Dragomir combo as possible and with the setupsize I already speculated on there being more than one scum, clearly. A 1 v 10 sounds too imbalanced.

Okay I stand by this wording and think that you probably willfully misinterpreted but I’ll ask again in good faith:

Why do you think that it’s not possible for just one of them to be scum (presumably with other people)

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:31 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am Creature
Dragomir
Rej
sprityo
MacDougall

nutella
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime

really rough D0 colourchart

Tell me more about sprityo and Mac please!

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:33 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:27 am I haven’t figured out how to post images on my phone anybody have a hint to that effect?

If are able to copy imagelinks then you just have to find the proper paste options/mechanics for this page. I once managed to do it on another forum and it was so unconvenient lol

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:30 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:25 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:22 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:19 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:35 am I’m afraid I have some grievances about that post Rej. You just keep going though and we can talk about that when you’re up to speed.

Okee dokee? Smokey? The Bear?
I just wanted to make more posts, so people can follow my thought process, I have nothing to hide boi also I didn't want to make a single wall post of doom, just for friendly reasons
For now our interrogation will have to wait. I’m on my phone and it makes this game way more of a pain in the arse.
hope this is no excuse
I can’t nestle quotes nicely together and snip! Imagine me just whining obnoxiously like an infant right now.

I like your posts after that first one today more so just keep doing your thing.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:34 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:30 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:26 am
Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:59 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am scum would either give heat to JJJ/nutella tizzy
or scum would lay low during a tizzy
or scum would sidecomment the tizzy

IF the tizzy is a towntizzy, so if JJJ is town I understand his read here, which simply puts you into the corner of suspects
Ah! I completely forgot how scum usually operates in t/t tizzies. They do one or more of these 3 things. I remember now how Beky did the same in the Hogwarts game against you, or how NeoRetro played when I was in a tizzy. TSP is acting like this. Scum generally does lay low and let the townies go at each other's throats or opportunistically jump in to push the mislynch. Good job Rej.

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 amI honestly don't like TSPs wifom here, saying scum would put in more effort, I have seen it otherwise so many times, each side has their own way of putting in effort. Each sides has it's pros to utilize, that's why this D0 statement of TSP is cwac and not correct.
I agree, somewhat.
Scum does one of three things in (x situation): says nothing, says something indirect, says something direct
it says nothing, but it brings forward lame scum excuses like this one ^

“I said something stupid and you’re scum for pointing it out”

I don’t think it’s AI that you say it but Drago’s latch onto it seems opportunistic because it’s so obviously a blah argument

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:35 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:27 am I haven’t figured out how to post images on my phone anybody have a hint to that effect?

[ img ] www.smtinappropriateimages.com/nocturne/maraattacks.jpg [/img]

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:36 am**

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:24 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:49 am I don't understand why "top level mafiaplayer" make so many jokes and include fluff, they rather should leave space to get reads from others and intrigue the ones with a different alignment, this confuses me lol
Mostly cause it’s fun.

But also it keeps mafia from shooting me before I can catch them when I’m town, makes me look to chillax to be mafia when I’m scum and as both alignments, it invites weak sauce attacks that I can then evaluate or shade depending on my alignment.
So basically, you try to omgus people?

No. Basically I tell the jokes and Mac sings the songs.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:36 am**

Wait no. Jay sings the songs.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:38 am**

Town
Drago
Nutella

Townlean
Rej
Mac

Scumlean
Jay

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:39 am**

Do we know how many wolves there are?

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:39 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:31 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:52 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:47 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:28 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:01 pm I wanna know why @MacDougall scumread the host.
me too, this was the most halfassed post I have seen for a while, it's maybe because it's D0 and he is comfortable and careless which tends for me to be town mentality

adding short P2 reads here:

nutella wants to start a wagon on JJJ and her post of linking me a JC to start a vote on JJJ made it look like she tried to get us to vote JJJ together
Dragomir flows alongside nutella, questioning people

so 2 options: both are town and rly see a threat in the JJJ tizzy or both are the mafia that wants to play as towncore
I exclude second for now because this would be way too agressive for mafia (especially D0) and mafia always wants to reach lylo/mylo without risks in this size of setup and I think Dragomir and nutella should be aware of this

more posts to come, but excuse my lazy ass
Why are you discounting that just one could be scum here?
I had to google what discount means, dafug this wording man xD
I said I include a nutella + Dragomir combo as possible and with the setupsize I already speculated on there being more than one scum, clearly. A 1 v 10 sounds too imbalanced.
Okay I stand by this wording and think that you probably willfully misinterpreted but I’ll ask again in good faith:

Why do you think that it’s not possible for just one of them to be scum (presumably with other people)

I just based this read on the entrance dynamic of both nutella and Dragomir, everything that came after the entrance dynamic is a different thing

so if by any means in future we come back to entrance dynamics then that would be valid in my eyes

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:31 am
Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am Creature
Dragomir
Rej
sprityo
MacDougall

nutella
Epignosis
Jackofhearts2005
JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime

really rough D0 colourchart
Tell me more about sprityo and Mac please!

Mac plays like a flexible towny, not avoiding the gun, I saw him play like this as town already twice, I can't go more into meta to dissect his D0 posts, but from a superficial view he acts towny, by following the main leads and adding contribution on his own pace

sprityo does not deliver enough space to be read, I rather tend to a null read and I don't want to make a fuss out of nullreads D0

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:41 am**

I townlean Rej for looking comfortable and cause Drago has not attempted to hadoken him yet.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:41 am**

If Day 1 ended in five minutes, I think my present vote would go to Epignosis.

I only remember two reads: Dragomir is good (everyone is saying that so weak) and nutella/JJJ are teammates — a silly read that fills space. ReAcTiOnS are great, but it’s just token and predictable from him. Meh.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:43 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:41 am If Day 1 ended in five minutes, I think my present vote would go to Epignosis.

I only remember two reads: Dragomir is good (everyone is saying that so weak) and nutella/JJJ are teammates — a silly read that fills space. ReAcTiOnS are great, but it’s just token and predictable from him. Meh.

Lol and then nk me right?

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:43 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:39 am Do we know how many wolves there are?

I love setup speculation, so based on the setup I'd say we are not in a 1v10 and we have atleast 2 wolves. The PRs are closed information so we can't guess the scumbalance in this game until flips happen.

I have bad knowledge about Persona 5 but I don't exclude a solid mafia of atleast 2 people.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:44 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:41 am I townlean Rej for looking comfortable and cause Drago has not attempted to hadoken him yet.

(Also why Drago is scum)

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:48 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:43 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:41 am If Day 1 ended in five minutes, I think my present vote would go to Epignosis.

I only remember two reads: Dragomir is good (everyone is saying that so weak) and nutella/JJJ are teammates — a silly read that fills space. ReAcTiOnS are great, but it’s just token and predictable from him. Meh.
Lol and then nk me right?

You'll come around.

Or you won't and we'll do this again next game.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:49 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:44 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:41 am I townlean Rej for looking comfortable and cause Drago has not attempted to hadoken him yet.
(Also why Drago is scum)

Dragomir sheeping me is something I have never seen before, atleast never in a noticeable way

I just think that Dragomir wants to townform for D1. See who comes along and who will go after each others throat D1. I could also be wrong tho.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:49 am**

Rej wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:43 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:39 am Do we know how many wolves there are?
I love setup speculation, so based on the setup I'd say we are not in a 1v10 and we have atleast 2 wolves. The PRs are closed information so we can't guess the scumbalance in this game until flips happen.

I have bad knowledge about Persona 5 but I don't exclude a solid mafia of atleast 2 people.

Well we aren’t in a 1v10 because definitionally that is not mafia and I’d throw a temper tantrum. I was thinking 3. That too many? Safe to say 2 or 3 in any case?
What’s a PR

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:49 am**

11 players suggests either 9:2 or 8:2:1. 7:3 sucks and 10:1 sucks even more. There are a maximum of three non-vanilla roles, so multiple independents are also unlikely.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:50 am**

I can count. 8:3, not 7:3. Still sucks.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:51 am**

I like Rej. The POE continues to narrow. Good show, gang.

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