The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:55 pm**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:26 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:14 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:51 am
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:48 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:44 pm And I didn't "tag along" on anything easily.

I voted my damn self and even said in my head I had S~V~S as Michelle's teammate.
Why
Yeah, I am kinda "why" about this, too.

When I answered your question about the DH since this is something I know, and feel very strongly about, Michelle acted like this was somehow sooper helpful information, when the host told us it was a flavor theme. My post was borderline OT banter and it gave me a chance to be pedantic, lol.

That was the extent of our interaction before I said I thought she seemed to be trying too hard.

If Epi thinks I, as a baddie in a format I am not comfortable with, would engage in fluffing with my teammates in thread, well, he don't know me at all do he? and I don't really know Michelles game, but from what people said about her in the Champs game, I gather she is a good player, is fluffing her teammates something she is known to do? It seems like a bizarre thing for baddies to do.

So yeah, not sure why he would think that.

Re Mac v Epi, I don't agree with everything Mac says on a quick skim, but I think he really believes it. So I feel good about him, between the two I am more wary of Epi.

Back to catch up.
I want to town read SVS for this train of thought despite not agreeing with it.

Personally, I think suspicions that are based on whether someone should know something or not are grasping at straws.

Why would you say that between the two you’re more wary of Epi? You had just said you town read Mac, so why would you need to choose between the two?
I was putting it in the context of Mac v Epi, as Mac was pushing the suspicion of Epi. Of the two, I feel better about Mac, even though I am not sure I agree with him. But I don't see bad Mac going hard after Epi day 1 with a bullshit case (and in this game, any case a baddie makes is a bullshit case). For one thing, I am not sure I buy his answer about why he felt she & I were teammates. It read to me like he was trying to set me up as a preemptive teammate of hers should she be lynched and flip bad. Plus the fact that Epi had to be pushed to answer the question three times (why he thought Michelle and I were teammates, once by nutella and twice by me) is also part of why I am wary of him. If plays into that same preemptive set up feel I got from him.

Except there was no need of me to even mention that I suspected you and Michelle coming into Day 1. I keep that to myself, and we don't have this conversation at all.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:56 pm**

I'm really trying to see how Michelle's posts could be coming from town, because the last thing I want is for a leading wagon all day to not be thoroughly questioned, but I'm increasingly finding it hard to envision it myself. Too many posts read forced.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:56 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:48 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
No. You're scum with Michelle.
Spicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
If you don't mind, briefly explain to me the universes in which Michelle is scum and town, why her behavior fits that alignment, and which one you currently find more believable. Hopefully this will help.
I'm not writing an essay Generally I can find Michelle's town meta pretty easily, and I haven't felt it yet, and a number of her posts have actively pinged me, so I currently find it more believeable that she's scum. That could change.

Hey, I did say briefly.

Thanks though.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:57 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:50 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:48 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.
Am I on the Michelle train now?
You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.
It was about understanding Dizzy's perspective on why "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" could look bad. Michelle accused Dizzy of illogic, and I don't agree. My opinion on it is that it's slightly scummy-looking when framed like that, but I'm not hopping on the train over it.
Ok

So now that you have begun to understand various reasons people suspect Michelle, how do you feel about her?

Ok. What I meant, in layman's terms, by "I'm not hopping on the train over it", is that I don't suspect Michelle enough to vote for her. I was continuing the train analogy. You started it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:57 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:50 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:34 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:52 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:38 pm

For me, she seems to be trying too hard.
this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.
Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I like this post.
i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.
OMGUS much?

Tell me more about how Dizzy’s perspective is not townie.
More than I said already? Why? I think I covered all the points and I don't want to turn this into a tunnel.

Talk to me about why do you think I am scum .

See, the problem is I'm still not really sure what your exact reasoning is. I don't understand how it's possible from your POV to conclude that Dizzy's interpretation of your post is only scum-compatible.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:58 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:56 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:48 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:46 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
No. You're scum with Michelle.
Spicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
If you don't mind, briefly explain to me the universes in which Michelle is scum and town, why her behavior fits that alignment, and which one you currently find more believable. Hopefully this will help.
I'm not writing an essay Generally I can find Michelle's town meta pretty easily, and I haven't felt it yet, and a number of her posts have actively pinged me, so I currently find it more believeable that she's scum. That could change.
Hey, I did say briefly.

Thanks though.

Do it nutella. Brief universes. Chop-chop.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:59 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:57 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:50 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:34 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:52 pm

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.
Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I like this post.
i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.
OMGUS much?

Tell me more about how Dizzy’s perspective is not townie.
More than I said already? Why? I think I covered all the points and I don't want to turn this into a tunnel.

Talk to me about why do you think I am scum .
See, the problem is I'm still not really sure what your exact reasoning is. I don't understand how it's possible from your POV to conclude that Dizzy's interpretation of your post is only scum-compatible.

Not to be Teamy-teamy with Michelle "even more", but since when does a suspicion have to be 100% all-or-nothing?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:00 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:46 pm
Spoiler: show
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:34 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:52 pm

this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.
Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I like this post.
i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.
I disagree, I understand Dizzy's logic here. You, as scum, are looking at things with the knowledge that you're scum, so saying "you don't have any reason to scum read me" belies indignation at getting caught for bullshit non-reasons.
no, because he starts from the idea I am scum so he is 'sure' about the read. This is scum tactic, not my observation who just wanted to check Svs's idea there. And look how he pretends he can read me well. I sense it as a fake read made by scum.
Actually, you're right. Dizzy really took it out of context. "... looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me." That's talking about S~V~S' perspective, it's not telling her that she doesn't have a reason to scum read you, it's the reason why her shade is weak.

Maybe I'm being dense, but I'm having trouble seeing it that way.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:00 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:53 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:45 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:44 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.
Am I on the Michelle train now?
You spoke as if you felt sure she was scum. Perhaps it was hypothetical but it didn't read that way in context.
Maybe it's a scummate that is actually sure she is scum, but doesn't really want to go there so he's tip toeing a bit? Just a wild guess.
Now this is a good post.
If Michelle and I were teammates... like, I'm not afraid to bus. I'm not Michelle's teammate.

That's fair, I was speaking more to just how it makes me like Dizzy as town.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:01 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:55 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
No. You're scum with Michelle.
This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?
Have you mentioned anything about Nanook? This is hypocritical.
I didn't mention you at all too, so what?
This is not hypocritical, it's just I don't see why he said we are scum together as answer for your vote on Nanook. Felt like a misdirection.

I just don't understand because it felt like everyone was ignoring my post about Nanook, except nutella.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:02 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:50 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:35 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
Lay off my scum buddy >: (

[VOTE: Epic nosebleed] aubergine
Did Epi get baited?
What do you mean by this?
I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.
Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.
You have yet to state what your reasons were for voting Michelle. What am I to think?

That's not true.

Shortly thereafter, S~V~S slid into Michelle, and I changed my mind.

It's all quite civilianesque and reasonable.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:03 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:59 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:57 pm
Spoiler: show
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:50 pm
Spoiler: show
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:43 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:34 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:10 am

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I like this post.
i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.
OMGUS much?

Tell me more about how Dizzy’s perspective is not townie.
More than I said already? Why? I think I covered all the points and I don't want to turn this into a tunnel.

Talk to me about why do you think I am scum .
See, the problem is I'm still not really sure what your exact reasoning is. I don't understand how it's possible from your POV to conclude that Dizzy's interpretation of your post is only scum-compatible.

Not to be Teamy-teamy with Michelle "even more", but since when does a suspicion have to be 100% all-or-nothing?

That's a good question. I'd like her to elaborate on it. Based on posts she's made about Dizzy, she hasn't really given me reason to believe she thinks that his actions there are town-compatible though.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pmSpicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.
How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?

Maybe I am an idiot who don't understand but since I know I am town your wording is very bad for my eyes.
I am not even Esl so I may get things wrong but the way you put it is like you lock me scum and I wish to know why.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:06 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pmSpicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.
How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?
Maybe I am an idiot who don't understand but since I know I am town your wording is very bad for my eyes.
I am not even Esl so I may get things wrong but the way you put it is like you lock me scum and I wish to know why.

This is absolutely reaching. I'm talking to Dizzy, who has a perspective that you ARE scum.

It's called subjunctive mood.

These kind of posts are why I read you as scum. They aren't genuine. You're just throwing shade everywhere.

[VOTE: MICHELLE] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:07 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:34 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:10 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:52 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:35 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
For me, she seems to be trying too hard.
this word, "seems" looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me.
Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I like this post.
i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.
hmmmm I dislike this post

why isn't MP allowed to agree with Dizzy? also, I made a post nearly identical to this, quoting dizzy and agreeing, and you didn't acknowledge it

it didn't ping me, probably for a reason. Quote it to me please and I will tell you why.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:07 pm**

I feel pretty good about killing Michelle now, actually. That post sealed it for me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:08 pm**

The real irony is that I've been trying to feel out Michelle this entire time and I had in no way ever locked her as scum until that post was made.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:08 pm**

You are a subjunctive mood.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:10 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:08 pmY
You are a subjunctive mood.

You're god damn right.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:10 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.

He’s pretty handsome and smart imo

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:06 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pmSpicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.
How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?
Maybe I am an idiot who don't understand but since I know I am town your wording is very bad for my eyes.
I am not even Esl so I may get things wrong but the way you put it is like you lock me scum and I wish to know why.
This is absolutely reaching. I'm talking to Dizzy, who has a perspective that you ARE scum.

It's called subjunctive mood.

These kind of posts are why I read you as scum. They aren't genuine. You're just throwing shade everywhere.

[VOTE: MICHELLE] aubergine

Everywhere is too much of a strech, sir! You started to tunnel me and if you think I am not genuine you are extremely wrong.
I think we never played before so you know nothing about me but you don't bother to find out.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:10 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
He’s pretty handsome and smart imo

Tell me more.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
No. You're scum with Michelle.
This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?

Yeah talk about meeeeeeeeeeeee

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:13 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:50 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:40 pm

Lay off my scum buddy >: (

[VOTE: Epic nosebleed] aubergine
Did Epi get baited?
What do you mean by this?
I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.
Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.
You have yet to state what your reasons were for voting Michelle. What am I to think?
That's not true.

Shortly thereafter, S~V~S slid into Michelle, and I changed my mind.

It's all quite civilianesque and reasonable.

If your suspicion was entirely predicated on them being teammates, is there a reason you chose Michelle over SVS?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:06 pm
Spoiler: show
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pmSpicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.
How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?
Maybe I am an idiot who don't understand but since I know I am town your wording is very bad for my eyes.
I am not even Esl so I may get things wrong but the way you put it is like you lock me scum and I wish to know why.
This is absolutely reaching. I'm talking to Dizzy, who has a perspective that you ARE scum.

It's called subjunctive mood.

These kind of posts are why I read you as scum. They aren't genuine. You're just throwing shade everywhere.

[VOTE: MICHELLE] aubergine
Everywhere is too much of a strech, sir! You started to tunnel me and if you think I am not genuine you are extremely wrong.
I think we never played before so you know nothing about me but you don't bother to find out.

I will gladly admit that I've tunneled plenty of times and it's turned out with mixed results, so I'm open to re-considering if you can supply me with the reason to do so.

I don't believe we have either, but I enjoy playing with new people.

Self-meta is a thing, and I'll take it for what it's worth, but how would you say your town game differs from your scum game?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm**

Well if this comes down to english grammar I admit I never learned it, and i never studied this language. Wanna hung me for this?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:06 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pmSpicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.
How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?
Maybe I am an idiot who don't understand but since I know I am town your wording is very bad for my eyes.
I am not even Esl so I may get things wrong but the way you put it is like you lock me scum and I wish to know why.
This is absolutely reaching. I'm talking to Dizzy, who has a perspective that you ARE scum.

It's called subjunctive mood.

These kind of posts are why I read you as scum. They aren't genuine. You're just throwing shade everywhere.

[VOTE: MICHELLE] aubergine

OK now I think this is sort of unfair. I completely understand how Michelle read your post that way.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
No. You're scum with Michelle.
This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?
Yeah talk about meeeeeeeeeeeee

Hi, Nanook! I'm talking about you now. Or, to you, rather. What are your reads?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:45 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:44 pm
Spoiler: show
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:34 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm GTH rainbow reads after catch-up:

Epignosis
MacDougall
nutella

Dizzy
Long Con
S~V~S

Michelle
Nanook

I'm almost certainly wrong about one of my town reads.

[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
Have you ever played with him?
I don't believe I have. If anyone has been around *enough* to have thread presence and yet made no impact on the game, it is Nanook, which is why I'm mildly suspicious. Also, no one has talked about him.

How does he normally play?
He doesn't like to have much impact on D1, he prefers to wait until associative reads can be made. So I'd say his behavior so far is normal.
This is good to know, thanks. I tend to find that sort of play suspicious, but from what you're saying it sounds like it's essentially just NAI.

How does town Nanook set himself apart from scum?

Better grooming

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm Well if this comes down to english grammar I admit I never learned it, and i never studied this language. Wanna hung me for this?

You were the one picking apart my language though.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:16 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:41 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:33 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:31 pm[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine

Let's talk about this guy.
No. You're scum with Michelle.
This looks odd. Why not talking about Nanook?
Yeah talk about meeeeeeeeeeeee
Hi, Nanook! I'm talking about you now. Or, to you, rather. What are your reads?

You’re >rand town, I kinda like dizzy but I wouldn’t gamble on it, no other reads right now

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:16 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm
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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:06 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pmSpicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.
How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?
Maybe I am an idiot who don't understand but since I know I am town your wording is very bad for my eyes.
I am not even Esl so I may get things wrong but the way you put it is like you lock me scum and I wish to know why.
This is absolutely reaching. I'm talking to Dizzy, who has a perspective that you ARE scum.

It's called subjunctive mood.

These kind of posts are why I read you as scum. They aren't genuine. You're just throwing shade everywhere.

[VOTE: MICHELLE] aubergine
OK now I think this is sort of unfair. I completely understand how Michelle read your post that way.

I appreciate that perspective and will consider it because I cannot fathom it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:16 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:12 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:06 pm
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Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:37 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:35 pmSpicy.

I'm not so sure about Michelle anymore though.
Why? I don't think she sounds anything like her towny self. Her shade of me is grasping at straws.

/cents.
How do you feel Michelle would be replying to your suspicion if she were town?
Maybe I am an idiot who don't understand but since I know I am town your wording is very bad for my eyes.
I am not even Esl so I may get things wrong but the way you put it is like you lock me scum and I wish to know why.
This is absolutely reaching. I'm talking to Dizzy, who has a perspective that you ARE scum.

It's called subjunctive mood.

These kind of posts are why I read you as scum. They aren't genuine. You're just throwing shade everywhere.

[VOTE: MICHELLE] aubergine
Everywhere is too much of a strech, sir! You started to tunnel me and if you think I am not genuine you are extremely wrong.
I think we never played before so you know nothing about me but you don't bother to find out.
I will gladly admit that I've tunneled plenty of times and it's turned out with mixed results, so I'm open to re-considering if you can supply me with the reason to do so.

I don't believe we have either, but I enjoy playing with new people.

Self-meta is a thing, and I'll take it for what it's worth, but how would you say your town game differs from your scum game?

Ask Nutella and she will say this to you.

I disagree with self meta as much as I disagree with day 1 associative reads.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:17 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm Well if this comes down to english grammar I admit I never learned it, and i never studied this language. Wanna hung me for this?
You were the one picking apart my language though.

You know what, let's just drop it.

I understand how a thread can become hostile towards a townie, and I don't want us to just pummel you into the ground if you are indeed town.

Talk to me more about your reads. I'm sorry I don't quite understand your Dizzy one. Maybe I'll ISO you to see if I can obtain a better understanding another time around.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:18 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm Well if this comes down to english grammar I admit I never learned it, and i never studied this language. Wanna hung me for this?
You were the one picking apart my language though.

Yes but I failed to make myself understood though.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:18 pm**

Tbh I did 't have time to read while answering. Back to catch up

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 pm**

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:25 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:08 pm The real irony is that I've been trying to feel out Michelle this entire time and I had in no way ever locked her as scum until that post was made.

The real irony is you are wrong and I even can't say I town read you for being so content to "find" me scum.

You know, i am sure your game experience is incomparable bigger than mine so I am sure locking scum someone so easy it's not a thing to do when you know so much about this game.
From this comes my doubt about you.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:27 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:25 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:08 pm The real irony is that I've been trying to feel out Michelle this entire time and I had in no way ever locked her as scum until that post was made.
The real irony is you are wrong and I even can't say I town read you for being so content to "find" me scum.

You know, i am sure your game experience is incomparable bigger than mine so I am sure locking scum someone so easy it's not a thing to do when you know so much about this game.
From this comes my doubt about you.

This is why I want to drop it. I realized that I was now being hypocritical by not more critically analyzing your posts for the possible perspective that you are town.

We're talking way past each other at this point. I am not trying to come across as though I've locked you scum anymore nor am I trying to say I know everything. That is most certainly not the case.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:28 pm**

I'll be taking a brief break because I need to return with a new perspective. Be back soon.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:36 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:25 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:50 pm

Did Epi get baited?
What do you mean by this?
I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.
Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.
You have yet to state what your reasons were for voting Michelle. What am I to think?
That's not true.

Shortly thereafter, S~V~S slid into Michelle, and I changed my mind.

It's all quite civilianesque and reasonable.
If your suspicion was entirely predicated on them being teammates, is there a reason you chose Michelle over SVS?

S~V~S is the one more likely to yell at me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:56 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:17 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 pm Well if this comes down to english grammar I admit I never learned it, and i never studied this language. Wanna hung me for this?
You were the one picking apart my language though.
You know what, let's just drop it.

I understand how a thread can become hostile towards a townie, and I don't want us to just pummel you into the ground if you are indeed town.

Talk to me more about your reads. I'm sorry I don't quite understand your Dizzy one. Maybe I'll ISO you to see if I can obtain a better understanding another time around.

Dizzy felt unnatural for me. I need to Iso and explain again but for me is 11:40 pm, I am phone posting and i would do it in the morning.

I will explain where I am at with the reads for everyone in random order.
If we take everyone until now, Nutella still leans town, you idk honestly, i hope you are villager but I need a day at least to see where your pushes are going (assuming I am alive until next day).
Nanook is pretty calm but hard to read so he is null, LC i liked how he posted leans town, Svs i think it's my best town read, Mac can be villager too.
Epi idk, the vote on me looked bad but would scum Epi vote me in the first post? More likely he wanted to check me than hung me.
Dizzy I think is scum.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:57 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:00 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:52 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:46 pm
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Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:39 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:34 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:15 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:10 am

Second, this is scum language. It's "you don't have a reason to think I'm scum" instead of "I'm town".
I also agree that Michelle vibes kawaiii in the worst way in the very start of the game.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
I like this post.
i dislike this post. Why do you like an oppinion who it's not true? The reasoning Dizzy posted to vote me it's not a townish way to put things.
I can say "i am town" but I don't trust anyone would believe it. My idea was correct because when someone scumreads based on shallow reasons I have to question the reasons of the read. Svs explained well after we interacted her thoughts, Dizzy took an opportunity to cast a bad vote.
I disagree, I understand Dizzy's logic here. You, as scum, are looking at things with the knowledge that you're scum, so saying "you don't have any reason to scum read me" belies indignation at getting caught for bullshit non-reasons.
no, because he starts from the idea I am scum so he is 'sure' about the read. This is scum tactic, not my observation who just wanted to check Svs's idea there. And look how he pretends he can read me well. I sense it as a fake read made by scum.
Actually, you're right. Dizzy really took it out of context. "... looks like you want to shade me but you can't because you don't have any reason to scum read me." That's talking about S~V~S' perspective, it's not telling her that she doesn't have a reason to scum read you, it's the reason why her shade is weak.
Maybe I'm being dense, but I'm having trouble seeing it that way.

So you only see it as Michelle saying "You shouldn't be accusing me because you have no reason to scum read me."

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:59 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I guess that saying you took Michelle's post out of context to accuse her put it over the top, huh?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:00 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:36 pm
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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:32 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:25 pm

What do you mean by this?
I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.
Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.
You have yet to state what your reasons were for voting Michelle. What am I to think?
That's not true.

Shortly thereafter, S~V~S slid into Michelle, and I changed my mind.

It's all quite civilianesque and reasonable.
If your suspicion was entirely predicated on them being teammates, is there a reason you chose Michelle over SVS?
S~V~S is the one more likely to yell at me.

I can learn to yell too. Would this give me a pass from you sir?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:01 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:59 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I guess that saying you took Michelle's post out of context to accuse her put it over the top, huh?

I don't know what mean by this. I have only skimmed, but there's some sort of fire burning in Michelle, so maybe she's town. Also she's right when she said I assumed she was scum from the start, cause I did get scum vibes from her from the very beginning.

But like, you naughty. How do you plead?

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:03 pm**

All this to say, I'll do stuff tomorrow.

Why is MP town reading me? Should he be doing that?

So many questions. Mac, SVS and Nut still town.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:03 pm**

Nanook is also probably town, but lol

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:08 pm**

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:36 pm
Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:54 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:51 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:32 pm

I thought he jumped too easily on Michelle after Dizzy's early prod of her, and Dizzy was reacting to his vote as if he'd been caught in a trap.
Did you really think that? I vote people out of the gate all of the time. Yet in this particular scenario, I got caught in a trap? What trap? What's Michelle's alignment? What's Dyslexicon's alignment?

Girl please.
You have yet to state what your reasons were for voting Michelle. What am I to think?
That's not true.

Shortly thereafter, S~V~S slid into Michelle, and I changed my mind.

It's all quite civilianesque and reasonable.
If your suspicion was entirely predicated on them being teammates, is there a reason you chose Michelle over SVS?
S~V~S is the one more likely to yell at me.
I can learn to yell too. Would this give me a pass from you sir?

Well I only have one vote.

I don't foresee voting for you today.

Posted: **Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:34 pm**

MP7 stamped me a civilian very easily and invoked the subjunctive mood to call Michelle bad.

Discuss.

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