Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:02 pmAlso, I'm quite pretty. It's unfair, really. But are you going to try to read me this game for real for real? Now is the time to start \o/
I mean, his sus on me/spf was very "there might be a wolf here", certainly didn't read like a strong suspicion to me and not founded on anything. I get the surface level of what you're saying, but I just don't see it in this instance.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:01 pmI thought the back to back juxtaposition of those two posts was interesting and wanted to hear what Gavial had to say about it.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:56 pmSerious question: Can you not agree with someone's town read on someone, but still think the person giving the read could be scum? Imo that happens like all the time?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 2:36 pmHow do you go from agreeing with SPF to saying there might be a wolf between Dizzy and SPF?
Sure, it's possible that's whats happening, but generally if I'm sus on someone and they're giving off reads I tend to question those a bit instead of just agreeing with them, especially if with my next post I say there might be a wolf in a group that contains the person I just agreed with.
I'd want to explore more why/how that person got to where they did
Very fair.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:04 pmDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:02 pmAlso, I'm quite pretty. It's unfair, really. But are you going to try to read me this game for real for real? Now is the time to start \o/
I've already locktown'd you, but I'm willing to reconsider.
Oh, that should say "for NOT OMGUSing".Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:08 pmSee this scum warning he's going to kill me N1. Tsk tsk.
Well, I guess since you asked so nicelyDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:21 pmwell then i dont feel pressured at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:15 pmI don't vote everyone I FOS as soon as I FOS themDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:51 pmif you were to look at any forum game i have played in, I have received a wagon on day 1 in >90% of them.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:21 pmYou have 0 votes currently. All of this seems a bit of a premature, wouldn't you say? Almost as tho you have a guilty conscious, and you're trying to get ahead of the curve.DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:08 pm just a tip in reading me if you're town: my playstyle inherently attracts votes. If you're urged to vote me, perhaps examine if you just have a pre-conceived notion of actions = scummy rather than intent. Everything ive said thus far is extremely NAI for me(lean town I'd say but im biased;) )
Ive been recently easing back into my ego playstyle so im not afraid to be loud and in charge.
I will make you make stances. I will make you state intentions. Be ready.
this is just being self aware of my own impact on the gamestate. but if u do fos me, why not vote?
come on, dont you want to make your scumread sweat?
What's your read on HK?Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:04 pmDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:02 pmAlso, I'm quite pretty. It's unfair, really. But are you going to try to read me this game for real for real? Now is the time to start \o/
I've already locktown'd you, but I'm willing to reconsider.
What on earth?Gavial wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:17 pmJust like you said in your above post, Dizzy is an out of this world wolf so you could also be falling for their trap.
Importantly together we should rebel against Dizzy!
I mean I kinda had a similar vibe that HK had but SoD reads usually don’t mean much but SoD mind melts on the other hand or Angling, that’s something that is AI.
noted that you waited until others had shown approval towards voting me before feeling comfortable in placing a votefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:09 pmWell, I guess since you asked so nicelyDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:21 pmwell then i dont feel pressured at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:15 pmI don't vote everyone I FOS as soon as I FOS themDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:51 pmif you were to look at any forum game i have played in, I have received a wagon on day 1 in >90% of them.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:21 pmYou have 0 votes currently. All of this seems a bit of a premature, wouldn't you say? Almost as tho you have a guilty conscious, and you're trying to get ahead of the curve.DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:08 pm just a tip in reading me if you're town: my playstyle inherently attracts votes. If you're urged to vote me, perhaps examine if you just have a pre-conceived notion of actions = scummy rather than intent. Everything ive said thus far is extremely NAI for me(lean town I'd say but im biased;) )
Ive been recently easing back into my ego playstyle so im not afraid to be loud and in charge.
I will make you make stances. I will make you state intentions. Be ready.
this is just being self aware of my own impact on the gamestate. but if u do fos me, why not vote?
come on, dont you want to make your scumread sweat?
[VOTE: VOTE DKOBA] aubergine
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:10 pmWhat's your read on HK?Marmot wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:04 pmDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:02 pmAlso, I'm quite pretty. It's unfair, really. But are you going to try to read me this game for real for real? Now is the time to start \o/
I've already locktown'd you, but I'm willing to reconsider.
I'm not sweating it since you're not voting for meDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:13 pmnoted that you waited until others had shown approval towards voting me before feeling comfortable in placing a votefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:09 pmWell, I guess since you asked so nicelyDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:21 pmwell then i dont feel pressured at allfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:15 pmI don't vote everyone I FOS as soon as I FOS themDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:51 pmif you were to look at any forum game i have played in, I have received a wagon on day 1 in >90% of them.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:21 pmYou have 0 votes currently. All of this seems a bit of a premature, wouldn't you say? Almost as tho you have a guilty conscious, and you're trying to get ahead of the curve.DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 4:08 pm just a tip in reading me if you're town: my playstyle inherently attracts votes. If you're urged to vote me, perhaps examine if you just have a pre-conceived notion of actions = scummy rather than intent. Everything ive said thus far is extremely NAI for me(lean town I'd say but im biased;) )
Ive been recently easing back into my ego playstyle so im not afraid to be loud and in charge.
I will make you make stances. I will make you state intentions. Be ready.
this is just being self aware of my own impact on the gamestate. but if u do fos me, why not vote?
come on, dont you want to make your scumread sweat?
[VOTE: VOTE DKOBA] aubergine
Yes. Except when people think it's particularly funny when they are in fact scum. Like you (and me sometimes)
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:18 pm I was very ready for Marmot to be scum, but he seems very relaxed, and that's a vibe that I associate with town!Marmot.
I'm starting to have perhaps too many town reads or reasons to think people town. I'll try sort out who gives the strongest vibes.
I completely agree, I guess what I'm saying is that most RVS behavior is NAIDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:21 pmYes. Except when people think it's particularly funny when they are in fact scum. Like you (and me sometimes)
I really felt the energy was just town. Particularly the "If scum think they're going to get me, they got another thing coming!" kind of sentiment.fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:38 pm DkKoba really reminds me so much of this player from back in the day. Which if this play is similar it really doesn’t mean much. Could be town, but could just as easily be mafia. I’m still hoping someone will come in and say what they usually play like (Who isn’t DkK them self) because as of now it’s still really not sitting great with me. it just seems a bit early for this kind of aggressive play. They created much more suspicion than they had on themselves with this response.
I really don't see the issue at all. It's RVS, practically meaningless. What I'd say is it's probably marginally more productive to RVS someone who's around.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:50 pmit always bothers me when there's a wagon, even if only 2, on someone who hasn't posted yet. One vote is fine, people do that all the time. A second vote is weird and I don't understand it. I mean if they're flirting there's better ways, this is like that jerk boy pulling pigtails because he's a jerk
Why?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:51 pmI super hate this readInvictius wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:41 pm fwiw i also think dizzy is town and it's mostly based on energy and early involvement. if what he's saying about not playing for a bit is honest then that means his most recent game was on mafiacafe was when he was scum and prior to that game he was also scum a few times all in close proximity to one another and id assume another scum/wolf rand would have him coming out with low energy again(as he did in that last mafiacafe game) as he probably wouldn't be up for it.
That's kind of what I asked myself with you. For how worried you got about a lingering two vote wagon on me, that I might not get out of. Why would it be a bad thing, what if I was scum? Anyway... I don't knooowhollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:52 pmI think it's weird that two people voted a zero poster and you seem fine with that. Do you have TMI that dizzy is town?
I'm living for the drama. But I honestly think you are both town. /however many centsfingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:01 pmthen sufferDkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:59 pmi dont need to prove anythign to you except with my unique dayplay that will deliver 3 scum into the path of a silver bulletfingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:58 pmYea, don’t really see how I’m “suffering”
It’s kind of on you at this point to prove your town in this game, not expect others to read several games on other sites. I’m not going to waste my time with that.
[VOTE: DkKoba] aubergine
Yes, I do that a lot. Especially D1. I also often have a hard time getting hard scum reads for wanting to give people the benefit of the doubt x10. Also especially on D1.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:03 pmnah, you said I was shrug, so I was asking if you vote your shrugs often
here's my solve: i'm gay!Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:52 pm And now for @staypositivefriend to solve the game. Please and thank you.
Acceptable.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:41 pmhere's my solve: i'm gay!Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:52 pm And now for @staypositivefriend to solve the game. Please and thank you.
the first quote has a level of spiciness that is utterly let down by the second quote. why assertively call alison scum and then back off from that read before alison (or anyone, for that matter) had the opportunity to react?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:07 am SPF is probably town. I like her town reads, I like all her thoughts, I like that she doesn't try to be flashy or project town too much. Good content without shoving it in our faceses.
Had a feeling Tony was town for his first post. Just seemed like something he said because he felt it necessary (from a town perspective), not because he felt he needed to say something (in which case maybe he would've felt the need to say more too). Maybe this is thin, but that's what I got.
I'm pretty ok with Invictus so far. But it's not like I feel I should trust him immediately, which I already have expressed.
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Don't know about anybody else. Alison, I don't really see where she is coming from with her Gavial read. I also felt she could've waited in any case. I don't have a read on Alison, don't quite remember how I've felt in other games with her.
first thing you have to know is that i managed to somehow get him limmed with my scum team in bread mafia without even lifting my finger to vote themDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:37 pmYou really need to explain this to me, cause he's one of the players I have had no town indicators from now. So awaiting elaboration on this.
i dont really like this read because it feels like gavial is mimicking the same style of read that hollowkat outed on page 1 here:Gavial wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:59 amMight be scum in here.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 5:35 amGurl mind meld. Was just thinking if it was too early to just give Tony a town read right for the entrance, but that's what I felt. I also think I'm about ok at reading Tony in general.
Not sure.
it feels like gavial saw hollowkat quote a dynamic on pg 1 and say there was a wolf between them, and then decided to mimic that style of read by doing the same thing on pg 3. it's just a little awkward from someone that presumably has a very unique and independent style of scumhunting
I don't plan lines. I do and want different things at the same time. I'll always get dragged into honest and wordy more than not. And honest thoughts is I don't know how to read Alison, and I'm probably generally prone to just be uncomfortable with her alignment wise. So I have sparks and thoughts and maybes and wants to randomly push, and then I have longer considerations, at the same time, and that is what you're seeing. I'm pretty sure this is not unique though. And in this case I never had a real thought of being convinced of Alison as scum. Just a possibility/worry.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:43 pmthe first quote has a level of spiciness that is utterly let down by the second quote. why assertively call alison scum and then back off from that read before alison (or anyone, for that matter) had the opportunity to react?
@fingersplints - what other reads do you have?fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:48 pm I’m done with reading, and I don’t find anything out of the ordinary with Alison so far this game. I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen her as mafia though, but so far nothing suspicious to me
they think i am scummy, u should finish rereading before replying ;Pstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:50 pm@fingersplints - what other reads do you have?fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:48 pm I’m done with reading, and I don’t find anything out of the ordinary with Alison so far this game. I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen her as mafia though, but so far nothing suspicious to me
damn, dizzy asked the same question to fingersplints a couple of posts below her initial post. im legally obligated to townread dizzy nowDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:03 pmAny other thought or opinions?fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:48 pm I’m done with reading, and I don’t find anything out of the ordinary with Alison so far this game. I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen her as mafia though, but so far nothing suspicious to me
im sure that fingersplints has a solid wolf game, but i will say that their style of posting is fairly different from the wolf game i just saw from her in fargo mafia. she is much more blunt and to the point and i dont feel like she's dancing around taking stances like she did in that game. generally decent feelings about that slot so farfingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 2:08 pmI like Invictus post about DkK’s series of posts and vote for LC. I also found it a bit off.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:03 pmAny other thought or opinions?fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 12:48 pm I’m done with reading, and I don’t find anything out of the ordinary with Alison so far this game. I’m not sure that I’ve ever seen her as mafia though, but so far nothing suspicious to me
I’m wary of Marmot, but that is absolutely normal. Tbh it’s be more suspicious to me if I wasn’t wary of him.
TSP’s posts seem ok so far. As do yours.
Most other people I don’t have an opinion on yet.
this post rubs me the wrong way but im not sure whyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 2:12 pmI was kinda hoping for cliff's notes, but I guess I could do my own homeworkDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:33 pmYou could read the game and figure out, that would be super! Since you are town, we're eagerly awaiting your input!
oof, i don't like this post. do you think that alison would not push to make the game more active as a wolf? would dizzy not have "reasonable reads" as a wolf? this feels like a fairly surface level analysis
lmao i think this reply is kinda villagery
DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:45 pmfirst thing you have to know is that i managed to somehow get him limmed with my scum team in bread mafia without even lifting my finger to vote themDyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 6:37 pmYou really need to explain this to me, cause he's one of the players I have had no town indicators from now. So awaiting elaboration on this.
