The Syndicate

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 am I was told

1. Mafia are uninformed good aligned majority
2. Rebels are uninformed good aligned majority
3. Town are informed bad aligned minority (the way Osie worded it though, was "I can assume they are"

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:20 pm

based wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:21 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:21 pm Also I don't think you are neutral I don't think based is neutral, I'm assuming a lot of things are purely semantics, I was a neutral faction that was actually uninformed majority good

So again, I'm sitting under the assumption that the evils know they are evil, it's the only way to move forward at this point, or people can continue to make up reads based on claimed alignments

Uh well
I'm with you on assuming my core role probably isn't neutral tbf, I don't think we've had anyone flip as neutral as their core role or however the heck the flips work
I have no idea what my core role is, though, so I'm not really any more in the know than you are regarding that lol

At this point it's probably not *that* bad if my slot flips since we could get our core role that way and stop wondering if we should pick a side
On the other hand from what we were told, it is indeed possible to win without receiving our core role, so if you'd rather we not suddenly become town or mafia or villager or werewolf or whatever else is in this game, then just leave us as a neutral cause we can't really do anything else right now.
Then again, it's getting a bit stale and min and I wouldn't be terribly opposed to finding our core role, but it's been sorta fun being neut.

-ww

I mean I'd rather everyone's real role get out there, I suspect if mafia are making these triple kills, it needs to hit new people. But at the same time I was shot twice, so idk

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:44 pm It's not possible, I'm saying from a stand point of my factions 3 mission, they were not possible for a minimum of 7 night phases in a perfect world outside mine, and based is a solo neutral, ya nah, in a game where people need to die to get their core roles, 100% not happening any time soon

Whysper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 10:01 pm

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:26 pm

based wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 5:20 pm

treereaper while I repeatedly beg for an answer to our question

*like*

Can we not even like here.

We received your laundry and we gave it away. I think that person themselves should be able to claim it. I'll let them decide if it's in their best interest.

~Solic

I received the laundry basket. I think it is probably fine for me to reveal that.

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 pm Villagers don't seem to be informed, so if town are the informed how come so many prior flips are town?

this is the question to which I also want an answer

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:36 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:33 am

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:30 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:29 am

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:24 am

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:46 pm

Day 4 Start

The moon looms closer...

Nero's violin playing was actually so good that the city of Rome burnt to never hear another violin, which would just sound worse.

@FoolsGold, @Millium, and @OwlsWriteLetters would have died during the Night. BUT THEY SOMEHOW SURVIVED. They were Werewolf Ravenous Beast, Rebel False Claim Desperado, and Mafia Mooncaller.

In addition, @Zone_Q11 has been exiled and @based has returned.

Day 4 Starts now.

Sorry for the delay; human error.

Day 4 will last until 2 PM PST on April 10th.

@TheLukundo @Tsumugi @Zone_Q11 @Tilgarial @Millium @OwlsWriteLetters @TwoPlayersAndAOnion @beancat @FateShirou @SkillIssue @ATNoLeafia @TimHortons @DunkinDonuts @based @Boquise @FoolsGold @KurosakiIchogo @SeonRichard @TownMisleaders @TreeReaper @Whysper

Owls flipped mafia according to this post @Kurosaki Ichigo .

-CRichard

I was talking about the dead

Shouldn't we kill Foolsgold because they're ww?

Oh sorry. If you're talking about the dead, then none of them have flipped mafia.

-CRichard

It's worse, they're all townspeople. The important thing is whether they are truly an informed minority or not

this only matters if peoples final flips were town and only 1 person so far has flipped town after actually dieing i think?

If town is the informed minority in this setup, then assuming that the hosts made them 1/4 of the player list. If there are more than 6 players who have flipped town, then that proves town isn't the informed minority.

-CRichard

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:39 am it's time for me to sleep, if you can find a way to convince me, I'll listen to you @FoolsGold
Signing posts would help

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:48 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:39 am it's time for me to sleep, if you can find a way to convince me, I'll listen to you @FoolsGold
Signing posts would help

i wont vote them unless you can explain how their previous role/alignment has anything to do with their new one.

Cause if your using the arguement we can't trust the slot

That same arguement can be applied to you cause you;ve yet to actually flip.

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:01 am At best we can assume "at least" 1 person started off as informed minority if not all of them
if these 3 kills are coming from the informed, or its just a random player that was told to target 3 new people, but i don't think every group of 3 has been new, can anyone confirm that?

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:44 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 pm Villagers don't seem to be informed, so if town are the informed how come so many prior flips are town?

this is the question to which I also want an answer

Another question where does the villager faction play in all of this?

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:58 am plus we dont even know if those 3 deaths every night have to include new people, there might exist separate factional actions from the informed minority, like directly killing people, and targeting groups of 3 to force their core role, since not having a core role, means they are affectively 1-shot bullet proof

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:44 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 pm Villagers don't seem to be informed, so if town are the informed how come so many prior flips are town?

this is the question to which I also want an answer

Another question where does the villager faction play in all of this?

Wincon says we need to eliminate scum factions

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 am I was told

1. Mafia are uninformed good aligned majority
2. Rebels are uninformed good aligned majority
3. Town are informed bad aligned minority (the way Osie worded it though, was "I can assume they are"

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:18 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:44 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 pm Villagers don't seem to be informed, so if town are the informed how come so many prior flips are town?

this is the question to which I also want an answer

Another question where does the villager faction play in all of this?

Wincon says we need to eliminate scum factions

no your win con does not just say straight up eliminate scum factions, thats what mafia win con is and its not even worded like that.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:10 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:01 am At best we can assume "at least" 1 person started off as informed minority if not all of them
if these 3 kills are coming from the informed, or its just a random player that was told to target 3 new people, but i don't think every group of 3 has been new, can anyone confirm that?

i'm thinking that mafia as a first role was a scum faction whereas mafia as a core role is a town faction
which is why i want owl to answer my questions, but their slot keeps going afk this game so idk if that's gonna happen

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:24 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:18 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:44 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 pm Villagers don't seem to be informed, so if town are the informed how come so many prior flips are town?

this is the question to which I also want an answer

Another question where does the villager faction play in all of this?

Wincon says we need to eliminate scum factions

no your win con does not just say straight up eliminate scum factions, thats what mafia win con is and its not even worded like that.

No, it's written to eliminate 2 factions (can I name them, by the way?) and all the other threats

FateShirou wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:01 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 am I was told

1. Mafia are uninformed good aligned majority
2. Rebels are uninformed good aligned majority
3. Town are informed bad aligned minority (the way Osie worded it though, was "I can assume they are"

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Explain how this is a gotcha

~~meeting the min post thing~~

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?

based wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:08 am

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:20 pm

based wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 8:21 pm

Millium wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:21 pm Also I don't think you are neutral I don't think based is neutral, I'm assuming a lot of things are purely semantics, I was a neutral faction that was actually uninformed majority good

So again, I'm sitting under the assumption that the evils know they are evil, it's the only way to move forward at this point, or people can continue to make up reads based on claimed alignments

Uh well
I'm with you on assuming my core role probably isn't neutral tbf, I don't think we've had anyone flip as neutral as their core role or however the heck the flips work
I have no idea what my core role is, though, so I'm not really any more in the know than you are regarding that lol

At this point it's probably not *that* bad if my slot flips since we could get our core role that way and stop wondering if we should pick a side
On the other hand from what we were told, it is indeed possible to win without receiving our core role, so if you'd rather we not suddenly become town or mafia or villager or werewolf or whatever else is in this game, then just leave us as a neutral cause we can't really do anything else right now.
Then again, it's getting a bit stale and min and I wouldn't be terribly opposed to finding our core role, but it's been sorta fun being neut.

-ww

I mean I'd rather everyone's real role get out there, I suspect if mafia are making these triple kills, it needs to hit new people. But at the same time I was shot twice, so idk

I dont want us to get our core role, because I would rather be a neut. I know that sounds dumb/selfish but for me I feel like if we finally died while this entire game we've been barely playing/paying attention due to our wincon and so if we changed alignments we would just..play poorly for the rest of the game. I uh, kinda dont want that? Its not easy to pick up steam in a game like this.

-min

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:11 am @OwlsWriteLetters What was your mafia wincon? Since your the first thats flipped it as an original alignment Im curious to know if its different or the same.

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:24 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:18 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:44 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 pm Villagers don't seem to be informed, so if town are the informed how come so many prior flips are town?

this is the question to which I also want an answer

Another question where does the villager faction play in all of this?

Wincon says we need to eliminate scum factions

no your win con does not just say straight up eliminate scum factions, thats what mafia win con is and its not even worded like that.

No, it's written to eliminate 2 factions (can I name them, by the way?) and all the other threats

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:35 am Then again, town being an informed minority in a core role POV does explain Kiiruma was acting very weird.

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:21 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 am I was told

1. Mafia are uninformed good aligned majority
2. Rebels are uninformed good aligned majority
3. Town are informed bad aligned minority (the way Osie worded it though, was "I can assume they are"

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Ok, now you should explain

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:38 am Also stop answering for owl, let him answer for himself

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:31 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:24 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:18 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:44 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:12 am

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:51 pm Villagers don't seem to be informed, so if town are the informed how come so many prior flips are town?

this is the question to which I also want an answer

Another question where does the villager faction play in all of this?

Wincon says we need to eliminate scum factions

no your win con does not just say straight up eliminate scum factions, thats what mafia win con is and its not even worded like that.

No, it's written to eliminate 2 factions (can I name them, by the way?) and all the other threats

why wopuldnt you be able to?

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:38 am

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:35 am Then again, town being an informed minority in a core role POV does explain Kiiruma was acting very weird.

It doesn't, ebcause he claimed to be mafia and then flipped town, uunless you suspect he knew town was potentitally the informed faction at the time.

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:38 am what even is Ichigo's current alignment?

Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:38 am

ATNoLeafia wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:35 am Then again, town being an informed minority in a core role POV does explain Kiiruma was acting very weird.

It doesn't, ebcause he claimed to be mafia and then flipped town, uunless you suspect he knew town was potentitally the informed faction at the time.

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:38 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:21 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 am I was told

1. Mafia are uninformed good aligned majority
2. Rebels are uninformed good aligned majority
3. Town are informed bad aligned minority (the way Osie worded it though, was "I can assume they are"

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Ok, now you should explain

To you?

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:42 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:38 am

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:21 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:05 am Our core role is mafia so we're going to begrudgingly make an attempt to get a better grasp of this game. Not ideal for us but we'll do what we can.

I swear I set aside a chunk of time for this, then i fell asleep instead lol

Luckily this post was made:

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:15 am

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 am I was told

1. Mafia are uninformed good aligned majority
2. Rebels are uninformed good aligned majority
3. Town are informed bad aligned minority (the way Osie worded it though, was "I can assume they are"

If mafia has majority why haven't any of them flipped so far?

Always nice when people out themselves, very helpful to me

[VOTE: kurosaki ichigo] aubergine

Ok, now you should explain

To you?

Yes

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:45 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?

This is too vague
please answer the questions fully

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:46 am

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:45 am

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 11:34 am

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 10:03 am @OwlsWriteLetters

I'm guessing that before you flipped, you were legitimately an informed minority mafia, not the uninformed one that everyone has claimed after flipping once? If so, who else has an initial role as mafia? what abilities did you have? which kills did you make?

Not in the traditional sense, we were closer to survivors than a mafia faction. I suspect this is/was the case for a lot of people?

This is too vague
please answer the questions fully

Oh no

Anyways