The Syndicate

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:38 amLemon's posts have felt different than in the last couple of games we have played. There is no whimsy that I am used to from them. I am feeling bad tone-age instead.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:05 pm Epignosis, Lime Coke, and DM all have to pay rent if I'm not mistaken.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:05 pm Epignosis, Lime Coke, and DM all have to pay rent if I'm not mistaken.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:16 pm SVS feels like obvious town.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:28 pm Nah, let's [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:05 pm @S~V~S wanna trade a property for this juicy Get Out of Jail Free card?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:28 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:53 pm Also I apparently have joined @Long Con in jail having rolled an 11.

K, gonna read more although it looks like a quiet day.

I didn't quite grasp before that you had rolled double-2's, gotten hit by the insanoTax, and THEN rolled again to move on!

Does it work that way with paying rent as well?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:34 pm I thought Sloonei's take on S~V~S had just the amount of nuance and mafia instinct that I like. I might support him for that vote if it comes down to it, down the line. I know that S~V~S gave a reasonable rebuttal/explanation, but it didn't move me. That said, I need to read through the day again. Some was while I was on my phone at work, and involved some skimming, and some "this is between them and I'll let them work it out for now".

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:52 pm I voted for Porscha because I felt like her posts were lacking in direction and purpose. In case anyone was wondering.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:31 am Roxy is town. Her energy is vastly different than the previous two games where she was not town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:57 pm @DarlingMonroe is visiting the RR3- looks like trains are in the yard! Choo-choo! Hahaha.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:13 pm I looked at some falcon posts, and I thought they could be villainous. Like where he calls Cape not-towny for bringing up Lime Coke and Sloonei as options, and Roxy agrees, and he says "mind-meld". Could be a negative bias on the reading but it gave me bad vibes in light of Cape's town flip.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:02 pm So I absolutely will not be voting for you and intend to defend you.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:02 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:10 pm currently contemplating voting DrWilgy or SVS for IDK reasons

Please help me to understand your play. Why Wigly?
Why SVS?
You did expand on SVS that you thought that "slippery" and "slick" are words I tend to use when I find someone I believe to be bad - SVS thought you were bad - I did too - to keep this real - but the word choice. Yeah. Maybe she is doing the same as me. idk.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:06 am SVS was actually because I read my role again and it said I could get +1 vote the next day if I voted the dog. I was wondering if SVS had the same thing

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:18 am reads list:

TRs
Roxy
Long Con
Sloonei
Epignosis

TLs
SVS
Lime Coke

POE
falcon
DarlingMonroe
DrWilgy

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:32 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:18 pm LOL at my broken bold

Okay, is this Malcolm In The Monopoly, or Breaking Bold?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:34 pm I thought Sloonei's take on S~V~S had just the amount of nuance and mafia instinct that I like. I might support him for that vote if it comes down to it, down the line. I know that S~V~S gave a reasonable rebuttal/explanation, but it didn't move me. That said, I need to read through the day again. Some was while I was on my phone at work, and involved some skimming, and some "this is between them and I'll let them work it out for now".

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:48 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:38 amLemon's posts have felt different than in the last couple of games we have played. There is no whimsy that I am used to from them. I am feeling bad tone-age instead.

Yo, Roxy... that's an abstract way to judge a player. Whimsy levels as alignment-indicative? My imagination also forms the impression of a sleazy Matthew McConaughey. like "mucho bad tone-age, am I right? All right all right all right, ha!" Limitations of a text-based medium, perhaps, but that's that struck me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:13 pm Won't be voting Roxy or lemon today. Starting there.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:16 pm SVS feels like obvious town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:27 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 11:16 pm SVS feels like obvious town.

Elaborate

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:08 am Would I have gaily followed if the vote were still for DM? I don't think so. Roxy is on there right now, and I don't currently trust Roxy or S~V~S a great deal. Both have given me vibey vibes here or there.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:31 am Roxy is town. Her energy is vastly different than the previous two games where she was not town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:00 am Ok then!

I once worked with a young woman who talked about energies. Like "this place has a really orange energy going on today, do you feel that?" Talkin' about peoples' auras and stuff. Completely batshit crazy from my perspective, but we got along fine.

I dig the mafia energy thing though. You sound sure enough.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:19 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:34 pm I thought Sloonei's take on S~V~S had just the amount of nuance and mafia instinct that I like. I might support him for that vote if it comes down to it, down the line. I know that S~V~S gave a reasonable rebuttal/explanation, but it didn't move me. That said, I need to read through the day again. Some was while I was on my phone at work, and involved some skimming, and some "this is between them and I'll let them work it out for now".

See, the problem with it was that it only had that amount of nuance becasue I was pretty much the only person to put a lot of reasoning into my vote. And he disagrees with my reasoning, so there was alot for him to pick apart.

Anyone (including you) who has played with me any amount of time knows I take my vote pretty seriously. I don't make day 1 votes out the gate, I don't RVS, and I try super hard not to vote on vibes with no explanation. It's WIFOM for me to say this for sure, but it is true. I like to give the person I'm voting for something to work with. I personally have problems that make it difficult for me to tell the difference between a joke vote and a not joke vote unless its super obvious (like Porscha voting for me becasue she had a dream I was a giraffe) and I like to give others the courtesy of understanding why I'm voting for them even if they disagree.

I don't recall everyones reasoning for final votes, I'm in bad early on work nights, but I'm fairly sure I gave the most detailed reasoning, and explained it more than once. I'm still Ok with my vote from Day One, whether or not Sloonei likes it.

Like Sloonei didn't mention Porscha till he voted for her, and his vote reasoning was thus:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:52 pm I voted for Porscha because I felt like her posts were lacking in direction and purpose. In case anyone was wondering.

You can't dig into that and find any nuance, lol.

Also not shading Sloonei there, I still think he's town, even if he doesn't like my reasons why. At least I gave reasons.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:47 am but fear not, I have rolled doubles so I'll get to roll again and go on my own journey, leaving this unfortunate entanglement behind as only distant memories on a summer's eve

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:24 am TRs
Roxy
Long Con

TLs
Sloonei
Epignosis
SVS

POE
Lime Coke
falcon
DarlingMonroe
DrWilgy

so then if DM is really just a rand 0-poster, there's still enough in POE to make a scum team

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:13 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:10 pm I voted lemon. Roxy looks like they did work and yay counterwagons

What about cape's car in Porscha?
Any other thoughts?
Also sorry about your hurricane issues. I understand if you are not all caught up and only reading this page.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:19 am See, the problem with it was that it only had that amount of nuance becasue I was pretty much the only person to put a lot of reasoning into my vote. And he disagrees with my reasoning, so there was alot for him to pick apart.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:36 pm

@falcon45ca got free parking at the motorcade and is immune from elimination today.

"When moving, mafia may choose to roll with 2d6, 2d8 or 2d10"

That's an impressive 20-space movement, falcon.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:50 am what is the banana stand and how can I get there?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:50 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:45 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:39 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:30 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:48 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:47 pm we need something spicy to happen

your vote is the spiciest thing in the thread.

Why are dying on Cape Hill? What are you seeing that I am not?

I feel like this contains a wolf. I am bothered by what Roxy is saying here

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:05 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:48 pm

your vote is the spiciest thing in the thread.

Why are dying on Cape Hill? What are you seeing that I am not?

I feel like this contains a wolf. I am bothered by what Roxy is saying here

methinks if there is a wolf in this, there is only 1 between Roxy and Cape

v/w or w/v and not w/w

lololololol

both saying the same thing. Neither bothered to clarify why, what or how they came to their conclusions.

Not caring about your silly votes. But why? What? How?

I thought it was clear why based on what I quoted
like I don't think wolfpartners treat each other the way you guys did in the quoted post

I understood that but why vote me? What made you vote me vs cape? why does there *have* to be a baddie in the grouping? Why can't it be town vs town? So many questions so little time....

idk, I just wanted to vote you (because it was spicy) and deflect your question about my vote on Cape
I wanted to hold up the illusion that I was always serious and idk see what happens

it could be v/v, I'm not saying it couldn't
I said if there is a wolf in you/Cape, you can't be both wolves
in hindsight I could have phrased that better and just said I don't think you're w/w

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:20 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:14 pm That one ^^. It just reads so like covering your bases. "I was joking, but kinda not really". It's kinda slippery, like you don't want to commit to one or the other.

it should be read with time in mind
like at first it was just a joke but then it became serious
but at the same time I had to explain I was just joking at first while I was considering how far to push the bit

so yeah, that's probably why it reads like that

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:21 am ok I have to split this up to talk about it

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:24 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:30 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:20 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:14 pm That one ^^. It just reads so like covering your bases. "I was joking, but kinda not really". It's kinda slippery, like you don't want to commit to one or the other.

it should be read with time in mind
like at first it was just a joke but then it became serious
but at the same time I had to explain I was just joking at first while I was considering how far to push the bit

so yeah, that's probably why it reads like that

I'll take that into mind. But i pretty much always find that kind of post a way to have your cake and eat it too as it were, if you know what I mean. Slick.

Night folks!

I disagree with this line of suspicion from SVS on Lemonfairy. I thought Lemon’s unserious-serious vote felt like the kind of loose, uncalculated play that comes from a townie who’s just trying to get a feel for the game early on.

I have some slight beef with SVS, but I feel like she’ll struggle to answer any questions right now unless I’m asking her where I can find a quick influx of cash.

Well, you need to read the whole thing then, not just this snippet Lemon snipped out of a conversation.

Of the RVS votes, Lemons stuck out tht most to me, not sure if it was a joke since Capes vote was pretty obvs a joke, or not. Taking someones obvs joky RVS vote and trying to say it's actually suspish is a fairly typical baddie move. That looked like this to me, but i could also see it being it's own joke vote. So eh.

OK, but did you not see that I was clearly being reachy and gave a terrible reason?
If I were actually a wolf I'd have tried harder to give a legitimate-sounding reason if I wanted to push someone.

What I don't get is that you seem to understand I was doing RVS things and/or joking but you keep clinging on to it (and kind of ignoring everything else).
I also low-key think calling my actions "slippery" or "slick" feels more like narrative-building and trying to paint a picture of me than trying to sound me out with no intentions.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:23 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:38 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:20 am

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:08 am [VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

their case on falcon makes too much sense this early it has to be a premeditated move

You don't think he's sounding tongue in cheek?

I thought all the votes up to this point looks like random voting phase or whatever it’s called to me. I just reread capes vote and it still looks like a joke.

THIS was where I really started to suspect her. Her reaction to suspish from Roxy is to vote for her, and she is saying her vote was a joke; wait no, it wasn't. Wait, no, she was just being spicy.

This is a quote of you quoting falcon quoting me putting my initial vote on Cape.
I concede my vote on Roxy looked kind of bad but that was kind of intentional.

Regarding my vote on Cape, I feel like I have been repeating myself but it started out as a joke, which then turned a little serious, which then removed. I did end up townreading Cape at EOD. I am allowed to change my opinions/reads over time.

The spicy post was just a meme (and ig I was being a bit petty about the whole incident too).
IDK I thought it was a fun little post.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:23 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:09 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:18 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:09 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:50 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:48 pm

your vote is the spiciest thing in the thread.

Why are dying on Cape Hill? What are you seeing that I am not?

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

cool non-response but can you possibly answer my questions?

it was a non-serious vote and I exaggerated my commitment to it
but I also kind of agree with whoever pointed out Cape was voting someone absent/didn't post much so I do want to see where that goes

So... you didn't mean it, it was kind of a joke, BUT you did kinda mean it.

I just came in where I left off before leaving work, and I see you posted a lot more past this, so I want to see that. Becasue after your original cape vote, you had my eye. This is why I hate RVS, becasue someone always reads too much into a joke, then they get yeeted for it, and neither of them are bad. I felt Cape vote felt jokey, but yours didn't.

So I'll see how I feel after finishing catch up.

Then, continuing to No U Roxy.

Again, isn't this your post, not mine?
Where did I No U Roxy?

To further clarify, when I responded yes to your "So... you didn't mean it, it was kind of a joke, BUT you did kinda mean it.", that was for Cape's vote, not Roxy's.
And to be fair, all votes in the early stages where you're just testing to see what fits feels like they're kind of a joke but has the potential to become serious depending on how the voted acts/react after the vote is made. IDK why having a vote be both is a big deal and I can't tell if this is purely a meta clash between you and me or if you're trying to make something out to be more suspicious than it is.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:23 am

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:05 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:51 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:48 pm

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 2:47 pm we need something spicy to happen

your vote is the spiciest thing in the thread.

Why are dying on Cape Hill? What are you seeing that I am not?

I feel like this contains a wolf. I am bothered by what Roxy is saying here

methinks if there is a wolf in this, there is only 1 between Roxy and Cape

v/w or w/v and not w/w

Whenever she was engaged with over this, she doubled down on "it was a joke, no it wasn't", which I continued to view as sus. And went with "I was trying to be spicy, but no one liked it so I stopped". I didn't find it spicy, I found it sus.

And tbh had I not been insanified, I would have pushed it harder the second half of the day.

And if you're looking for that influx of cash, ther'es always cash in the banana stand.

See my previous comments for my view of the first line.

Also, this might be tinfoily but I think mafia killing Cape has the intended effect of making me look bad my vote on Cape D1 and pushing me in this direction straight out of the gate D2 does make my squint a little. On the other hand, I could also see mafia potentially taking advantage if town!SVS is just weirdly tunneled on me.