The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:49 am**

Perhaps a Distrustfall could also be in order.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:51 am**

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] I've considered advocating for your character names cause here, but it's problematic that you're on a shortlist for the bad guys. I'm also not sure how much one can do with a cop check in a LyLo scenario. There's always the threat of deceit.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:53 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:28 pm Okay can I have character claims from everyone?
No reason why. Story curiosities. They’re completely randomized.

I’m Lucy.

Any reason why you opened your crusade for character names this way?

Obviously there's a difference between "no reason"/"story curiosities"/"they're randomized" and "my role allows me to cop check certain people".

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:08 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:28 pm Okay can I have character claims from everyone?
No reason why. Story curiosities. They’re completely randomized.

I’m Lucy.
Any reason why you opened your crusade for character names this way?

Obviously there's a difference between "no reason"/"story curiosities"/"they're randomized" and "my role allows me to cop check certain people".

Figured I’d get some early bites and could get more truthful information, then could use peer pressure and full info to find the rest.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:13 am**

Distrustfall

Epi: clearly scum
FG: took the easiest possible clear after it was clear Epi was going to be lynched
Speed: has done little
LC: purposeful distancing from all other members
Sloonei: got misdirected and is controlling town
TS: got early town cred but has been thorny today, could be mafia expressing actual disappointment

believability: Epi LC Speed FG TS Sloonei

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:15 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:51 am @TonyStarkPrime I've considered advocating for your character names cause here, but it's problematic that you're on a shortlist for the bad guys. I'm also not sure how much one can do with a cop check in a LyLo scenario. There's always the threat of deceit.

It can set up mechanical dichotomies. If I die and am cleared it can make someone else seem pretty suspicious.
Do you have a character?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:19 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:15 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:51 am @TonyStarkPrime I've considered advocating for your character names cause here, but it's problematic that you're on a shortlist for the bad guys. I'm also not sure how much one can do with a cop check in a LyLo scenario. There's always the threat of deceit.
It can set up mechanical dichotomies. If I die and am cleared it can make someone else seem pretty suspicious.
Do you have a character?

Not one with a name, and not one you should be targeting with a night action. We're gone anyway.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:21 am**

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] you suggested you were inclined to stick to the status quo in light of Epignosis trying to generate paranoia. I think that's an agreeable sentiment, and yet I note your reads are not the status quo. Who's your three-player mafia team with a gun to the old noggin?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:38 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:21 am @TonyStarkPrime you suggested you were inclined to stick to the status quo in light of Epignosis trying to generate paranoia. I think that's an agreeable sentiment, and yet I note your reads are not the status quo. Who's your three-player mafia team with a gun to the old noggin?

I think they are.

Epi
Speed
????
Seems like status quo.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:39 am**

I still think it’s FG but as I did my distrustfall I found that some suspension of belief was required

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:40 am**

Maybe Jay and nutella decided to prank us by saying we are in lylo, when there really are only three wolves, for some reason. That would not be too unusual, I think.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 am**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:40 am Maybe Jay and nutella decided to prank us by saying we are in lylo, when there really are only three wolves, for some reason. That would not be too unusual, I think.

The numbers we provided are the numbers to our knowledge. But it's interesting that you want to put this idea forth.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:39 am I still think it’s FG but as I did my distrustfall I found that some suspension of belief was required

That's what I'm referring to. You're the only one on that course at all.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:56 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:39 am I still think it’s FG but as I did my distrustfall I found that some suspension of belief was required
That's what I'm referring to. You're the only one on that course at all.

I’m awareish. I think the third member is a collective shrug. I don’t think it’s Long Con. I know it’s not me. I have few options left.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:57 am**

In fact, with the knowledge that I’m town, I think FG is probably contending pretty strongly for that third slot

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:57 am**

So I wouldn’t say I’m the only one on that course at all.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:08 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:57 am So I wouldn’t say I’m the only one on that course at all.

who else

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:28 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:08 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:57 am So I wouldn’t say I’m the only one on that course at all.
who else

I made it up in my head it’s just me

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:29 am**

Though I suppose that means FG is the best scum kill second day so I won’t have to worry about it

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:53 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:28 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:08 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:57 am So I wouldn’t say I’m the only one on that course at all.
who else
I made it up in my head it’s just me

Am I crazy on this? It seems to me like a fairly simple bus strat and I haven’t seen FG’s tone as genuine in the manner that some of you have. Likely I’m wrong.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:14 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:38 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:21 am @TonyStarkPrime you suggested you were inclined to stick to the status quo in light of Epignosis trying to generate paranoia. I think that's an agreeable sentiment, and yet I note your reads are not the status quo. Who's your three-player mafia team with a gun to the old noggin?
I think they are.

Epi
Speed
????
Seems like status quo.

That's gonna be a problem.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:15 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:19 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:17 am We know Epignosis is a mafioso.

Does anyone still have room left in their solving spaces for a civilian speechuck?
It is difficult to fit him in there, not because of anything he has done, but because that means two of these other folks must be bad. Unless funnygurl and mikey have been doing some crazy hoodwinking all along, I don’f see it.

I could see funnygurl as having set up the whole role thing with Epi, at least.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:19 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:32 am Thinking through a trustfall leaves me worse on everyone, but in a different order.

(epi) speed TS FG LC Sloonei

As for the roles thing, I have a power that has the ability to essentially act as a cop for any player. It only works on certain roles — I need to find one of those roles to use it. It also only works on odd nights, and since this is the last odd night in the game (most likely) I will have no more opportunities to make use of it. So that’s why I’m asking now. I just need character names.

This might be worth doing, quite frankly. If it's LYLO, I need to be cleared before tomorrow's lynch.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:33 am**

Looking it up, I'm apparently the protagonist of Assassin's Creed Rogue? That's a game I didn't know existed. Name is Shay Cormac.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:38 am**

Okay, just Sloonei TS and LC. Sloonei and TS feel compelled likely to not share as their position is that where they're not particularly in danger -- I won't use my action on them. But I'll remind them that scum fake claims. If I find that I know that there is a role in the game that they have not claimed, it can narrow down options.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:39 am**

If there are two scum left and Speed is town we're pretty screwed.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:53 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:38 am Okay, just Sloonei TS and LC. Sloonei and TS feel compelled likely to not share as their position is that where they're not particularly in danger -- I won't use my action on them. But I'll remind them that scum fake claims. If I find that I know that there is a role in the game that they have not claimed, it can narrow down options.

To clarify:
Let’s say Speed is bad and is Bob but has lied and I can get information on Bob.
If Sloonei and TS tell me that they are not Bob, then I can (with some luck) some better information if I target Speed. If Sloonei and TS don’t tell me anything, I have to get a lot more lucky.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:10 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2020 11:59 pm Can anyone tell me why they aren't inclined to answer Tony's call for a character claim?

It's a foreign idea to me, I'm waiting to see unanimous approval of the plan. Once I do it, it can't be undone. I'm not making that decision based on just me and Tony.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:47 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:38 am Okay, just Sloonei TS and LC. Sloonei and TS feel compelled likely to not share as their position is that where they're not particularly in danger -- I won't use my action on them. But I'll remind them that scum fake claims. If I find that I know that there is a role in the game that they have not claimed, it can narrow down options.
To clarify:
Let’s say Speed is bad and is Bob but has lied and I can get information on Bob.
If Sloonei and TS tell me that they are not Bob, then I can (with some luck) some better information if I target Speed. If Sloonei and TS don’t tell me anything, I have to get a lot more lucky.

My character has not been claimed by anyone.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm**

so what'd you do n1 tsp?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:13 pm**

Tony and speed are scum I'm locking it from this page alone.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:15 pm**

I'm being dramatic. Maybe not. Maybe Tony is okay. His posts here just don't feel right.

Mikey is definitely still a major candidate.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:39 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm so what'd you do n1 tsp?

Not much

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:41 pm**

We have so much more time than I thoughf

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:41 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:39 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm so what'd you do n1 tsp?
Not much

Have you accomplished anything with your role so far?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:41 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:47 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:38 am Okay, just Sloonei TS and LC. Sloonei and TS feel compelled likely to not share as their position is that where they're not particularly in danger -- I won't use my action on them. But I'll remind them that scum fake claims. If I find that I know that there is a role in the game that they have not claimed, it can narrow down options.
To clarify:
Let’s say Speed is bad and is Bob but has lied and I can get information on Bob.
If Sloonei and TS tell me that they are not Bob, then I can (with some luck) some better information if I target Speed. If Sloonei and TS don’t tell me anything, I have to get a lot more lucky.
My character has not been claimed by anyone.

I’d assume so if someone did there’d be a bit of a problem

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:42 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:41 pm We have so much more time than I thoughf

72 hour days are bliss

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:42 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:15 pm I'm being dramatic. Maybe not. Maybe Tony is okay. His posts here just don't feel right.

Mikey is definitely still a major candidate.

Whaddya think Tony may be up to

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:42 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:39 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm so what'd you do n1 tsp?
Not much
Have you accomplished anything with your role so far?

That I am aware of? No. Maybe another reason why I’m trying to make something of it today.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:45 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:39 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm so what'd you do n1 tsp?
Not much
Have you accomplished anything with your role so far?
That I am aware of? No. Maybe another reason why I’m trying to make something of it today.

What’s the character list you have so far?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:48 pm**

Just a general concern regarding Tony:

If the mafia are being squeezed out by POE, they need to expand that pool to stay viable. Maintaining FunnyGurl as a high suspect may fit that idea.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:48 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:45 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:39 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm so what'd you do n1 tsp?
Not much
Have you accomplished anything with your role so far?
That I am aware of? No. Maybe another reason why I’m trying to make something of it today.
What’s the character list you have so far?

I have one remaining valid suspect. No one has yet claimed that valid suspect. So it’s either 1 in 3 or scum has it and has lied.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:49 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:48 pm Just a general concern regarding Tony:

If the mafia are being squeezed out by POE, they need to expand that pool to stay viable. Maintaining FunnyGurl as a high suspect may fit that idea.

to be honest thought about the optics of this.
Given that this is WIFOM, but I don’t think I’d be so high to defend LC.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:49 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:48 pm Just a general concern regarding Tony:

If the mafia are being squeezed out by POE, they need to expand that pool to stay viable. Maintaining FunnyGurl as a high suspect may fit that idea.

Yeah, this is part of my icky feelings about him.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:50 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:48 pm Just a general concern regarding Tony:

If the mafia are being squeezed out by POE, they need to expand that pool to stay viable. Maintaining FunnyGurl as a high suspect may fit that idea.
to be honest thought about the optics of this.
Given that this is WIFOM, but I don’t think I’d be so high to defend LC.

I don't understand this post.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:52 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:48 pm Just a general concern regarding Tony:

If the mafia are being squeezed out by POE, they need to expand that pool to stay viable. Maintaining FunnyGurl as a high suspect may fit that idea.
to be honest thought about the optics of this.
Given that this is WIFOM, but I don’t think I’d be so high to defend LC.

I don’t understand your meaning. Please restate.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:52 pm**

Now I’m the parrot sqwaaaaak

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:54 pm**

I think he's saying he should look good for defending LC/removing him from the poe? Remind us of your reasoning for doing so?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:54 pm**

I think LC is town. Likely if I were scum my scum partner has taken the target of me or LC. I’m not helping the case by defending LC.
Only speed has
oh I see a problem here

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:55 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:54 pm I think he's saying he should look good for defending LC/removing him from the poe? Remind us of your reasoning for doing so?

Self vote, general town spirit

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