The Syndicate

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president

I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:18 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:13 am I do think it's unlikely to work, due to the number of players who seem unreceptive to the idea.

thats the only thing keeping us from doing it

its nothing mech related, its a matter of people just being fine with pressing x to win the game, thats it

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:18 am Ok i've skimmed the last couple of pages.
Immediate thoughts:

I'm not convinced pyxxy is the President. He said he was NOT roleblocked by Michelle. The President is has no way of knowing that could be true.

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:30 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:18 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:13 am I do think it's unlikely to work, due to the number of players who seem unreceptive to the idea.

thats the only thing keeping us from doing it

its nothing mech related, its a matter of people just being fine with pressing x to win the game, thats it

Quit bloody well saying that, you are still just wrong. You could very well just turn the day into what just happened, a random flip we learn nothing from.

I'm actually kind of hoping that you're a wolf with the way you're acting this game, it's really painful to experience how cold you've been all game and I don't recognize that attitude coming from you

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:09 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president

I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand

Maybe because of "vibes". It's especially annoying as Epi very clearly rolehinted.

If pyxxy President i also think Day 3 would've been the better time to use it when he was tied with LC.

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:30 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:18 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:13 am I do think it's unlikely to work, due to the number of players who seem unreceptive to the idea.

thats the only thing keeping us from doing it

its nothing mech related, its a matter of people just being fine with pressing x to win the game, thats it

Quit bloody well saying that, you are still just wrong. You could very well just turn the day into what just happened, a random flip we learn nothing from.

I'm actually kind of hoping that you're a wolf with the way you're acting this game, it's really painful to experience how cold you've been all game and I don't recognize that attitude coming from you

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:05 am dude you be messing up the mech constantly. oops teeheee

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:01 am I got home earlier than expected, so it'll just be a 24 hour night after all

Spoiler: show

Epignosis

was eliminated.They were

Spoiler: show

TOWN

Their role was:

Spoiler: show

Druid - You have three abilities, each of which you may use once in the game. You have a 1-shot targeted doctor ability (if used, you will protect your target from any kill attempt made against them), a 1-shot targeted priest ability (if used, you will reveal your target's role publicly in the thread), and a 1-shot necromancer ability (if used, you will use the ability of a revealed dead role of your choice).

You have about 22 hours to get your night actions in! Thread is now unlocked.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:10 am wait thats a TOWN ABILITY????

BRO HE OPEN CLAIMED HOLY SHIT IM MAD

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:41 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:40 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:36 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:12 am Thanks for wasting my time mr president

At least we learned something.

But yeah I’m likely on leetic tomorrow

Couldve killed someone we didnt specifically say was mechanically clear

May well have been submitted before you said that. Idk

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 7:43 am I Wonder if epig saved Nutella n1?

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:28 am But your point on leetic is a good one, unless we are just blind on scotty

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:41 am I don't think I can clear wilgy off the comment I had in my head

so anyway im back much later

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:18 am Ok i've skimmed the last couple of pages.
Immediate thoughts:

I'm not convinced pyxxy is the President. He said he was NOT roleblocked by Michelle. The President is has no way of knowing that could be true.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:34 am

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:09 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president

I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand

Maybe because of "vibes". It's especially annoying as Epi very clearly rolehinted.

If pyxxy President i also think Day 3 would've been the better time to use it when he was tied with LC.

Also a good point.

But it’s a bizarre use of the ability if it wasn’t pyxxy

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:19 am not that many of us messed up our vote validations right

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:19 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:19 am not that many of us messed up our vote validations right

No, surely at most we could have flipped to leetic

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:18 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:34 am

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 10:09 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 9:58 am should also maybe reconsider pyxxy just because indeed it makes no sense for him to say he wasn't roleblocked if he is president

I'm just unsure why any other president would trigger that play and kill that player instead of pyxxy but presidents sometimes do things we don't understand

Maybe because of "vibes". It's especially annoying as Epi very clearly rolehinted.

If pyxxy President i also think Day 3 would've been the better time to use it when he was tied with LC.

Also a good point.

But it’s a bizarre use of the ability if it wasn’t pyxxy

i havent read all the roles are we sure there isnt something else that can do it

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:12 am ok do we have town nutella now?

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:48 am Off the top of my head, my legacy is something like this. I hear what gims is saying about wilgy, and others have said he can be a hard-busser in the past, so I've moved him out of the never rescind for now. But still not my first though

Never rescind town unless they're alive at mylo/lylo
nutella
gims
Tranq

Very, very likely town
Scotty
dubz
Wilgy

Probably town
DM
Mac
pyxxy

POE:
Rondo
Porscha
leetic
jess

Assuming the NK goes through we are at 10/2 tomorrow. Still a good spot for sure

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:10 am wait thats a TOWN ABILITY????

BRO HE OPEN CLAIMED HOLY SHIT IM MAD

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:15 am

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:28 am But your point on leetic is a good one, unless we are just blind on scotty

scotty is def capable of posting as well as he has this game as mafia fwiw, i dont really want to seriously consider him til we have to but yeah he could be the deep one

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:29 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:12 am ok do we have town nutella now?

I still don’t see Nutella as scum in basically any world, but that kind of catchup is pretty easy to fake if scum. So if someone was entertaining a scum Nutella universe, I would not expect this exchange to change their opinion

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:17 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 8:48 am Off the top of my head, my legacy is something like this. I hear what gims is saying about wilgy, and others have said he can be a hard-busser in the past, so I've moved him out of the never rescind for now. But still not my first though

Never rescind town unless they're alive at mylo/lylo
nutella
gims
Tranq

Very, very likely town
Scotty
dubz
Wilgy

Probably town
DM
Mac
pyxxy

POE:
Rondo
Porscha
leetic
jess

Assuming the NK goes through we are at 10/2 tomorrow. Still a good spot for sure

flashbanged by the reads list of agony once again

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:22 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:29 am

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 11:12 am ok do we have town nutella now?

I still don’t see Nutella as scum in basically any world, but that kind of catchup is pretty easy to fake if scum. So if someone was entertaining a scum Nutella universe, I would not expect this exchange to change their opinion

to be fair, nutella was towny even in the mess of catch up where there was tvt violence. she was a t being violenced by t's. lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm Hi it’s me again

I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:

D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)

There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm Hi it’s me again

I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:

D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)

There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:02 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm Hi it’s me again

I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:

D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)

There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum

How about this:
We ask BOTH Redirectors to target Dubz and redirect the action to DrWilgy.
We ask Parrot to target DrWilgy and use their target on Dubz.
If not possible due to double targetting, pick the other one.

If both of them are mafia, this could make one of them kill the other one. Could this work?

And we ask Doctor and Watcher to target Tranq in case mafia isn't fond of this plan

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:41 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm Hi it’s me again

I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:

D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)

There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum

This just isn’t how w!dubz plays in my experience, she isn’t a slanking wolf. Doesn’t mean she could be different now but that’s why she’s pretty high in my town reads.

But I can understand that her ISO looks pretty scummy without that context

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO

Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:30 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:12 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:15 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:31 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:21 pm
That he has nuanced towny thoughts rather than say, perhaps trying to point out a "contradiction" in order to have something to push, like wolves are more likely to do?

What exactly is the "nuance" here?

Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?

BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine

This is a good post

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.

LC is currently top TR.

Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.

Sukide wa arimasen

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am Nicole's ISO is very meh.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:

NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 9:25 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:50 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:32 pm

jess wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:17 pm sorry i wont really be available to play until tomorrow (real-life time). the mafia better start quaking in their boots bcuz once im free it's gonna be sooooo over for them

Admittedly, this post doesn't look good either. Just say you'll be unavailable, no need to LARP about how the wolves would totally be destroyed right now if you were around

Disagree, that kind of statement is +town

Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.

I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.

This is a weird aside

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:07 am [VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

This is fine.

I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.

Now departing. Please clear the doors.

Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.

[VOTE: Trekkie] aubergine

Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.

Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.

Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.

If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.

Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)


Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.

At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.

Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO

Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:30 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:12 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:15 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 8:31 pm

What exactly is the "nuance" here?

Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?

BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine

This is a good post

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.

LC is currently top TR.

Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.

Sukide wa arimasen

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am Nicole's ISO is very meh.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:

NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 9:25 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:50 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:32 pm

jess wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 6:17 pm sorry i wont really be available to play until tomorrow (real-life time). the mafia better start quaking in their boots bcuz once im free it's gonna be sooooo over for them

Admittedly, this post doesn't look good either. Just say you'll be unavailable, no need to LARP about how the wolves would totally be destroyed right now if you were around

Disagree, that kind of statement is +town

Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.

I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.

This is a weird aside

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:07 am [VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

This is fine.

I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.

Now departing. Please clear the doors.

Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.

[VOTE: Trekkie] aubergine

Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.

Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.

Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.

If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.

Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)


Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.

At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.

Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest

@Scotty why did your read on Wilgy change from this prior read where you felt the prior interactions were unnecessary with his two partners? I get that apparently he doesn't have the role you thought he had, but how does that change the logic you laid out above?

And what happened to leetic being a top POE for you when you were voting for him yesterday morning? I don't see how anything that has happened in the last 24 hours should have changed your opinion on leetic.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:09 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:41 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm Hi it’s me again

I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:

D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)

There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum

This just isn’t how w!dubz plays in my experience, she isn’t a slanking wolf. Doesn’t mean she could be different now but that’s why she’s pretty high in my town reads.

But I can understand that her ISO looks pretty scummy without that context

Do you have more experience with how much of a busser w!Dubz is?