The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:50 pm Should probably tell you guys something that I wasn’t in most people’s POE and all of a sudden today I am for...let’s be charitable and call them very soft reasons.

Even though I’m not entirely locked in, I HAVE been contributing, if you want to push me do the work to read me don’t just lazily say “idk maybe nanook I guess”

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:37 pm soneji kinda wolf got a funny thing

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:51 pm I owe Carotte 5-6 names.


the >rand alien section:

Mac
Alison
Long Con
Carotte
Rej
Soneji

in roughly that order.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:53 pm top to bottom least likely to most likely. Alison/Carotte probably not w/w, Alison/Mac probably not w/w. For people who think Epi is a wolf, Alison/Epi probably not w/w. maybe Alison is just town. I'll check up, see if I can cross off any other pairings

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:43 pm my poe would look like (from least to most scummy):

nanook
alison
mac
carot

@Carotenoid you've really disappeared and if you're town, that just makes you likely to be a misshot. do you have time to give us a new poe, some reactions, anything?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:56 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:43 pm my poe would look like (from least to most scummy):

nanook
alison
mac
carot

@Carotenoid you've really disappeared and if you're town, that just makes you likely to be a misshot. do you have time to give us a new poe, some reactions, anything?

I will try to give some time to this game before EoD, but I'm a bit busy today so not guaranteeing anything

I 100% believe you and Epignosis when you say you would veto the Hally kill. I'm not locktowning protocultures as town anymore but still believe there's good chances he's town. TSP too.

That leaves me Alison/MacDougall/Nanook and honestly I'm back to thinking it's just Alison and MacDougall. I cleared MacDougall for "bussing" Soneji/Rej, but if the team is exactly these 4, it was the only way aliens could ever imagine winning so eh.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:54 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:37 pm soneji kinda wolf got a funny thing

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:51 pm I owe Carotte 5-6 names.


the >rand alien section:

Mac
Alison
Long Con
Carotte
Rej
Soneji

in roughly that order.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:53 pm top to bottom least likely to most likely. Alison/Carotte probably not w/w, Alison/Mac probably not w/w. For people who think Epi is a wolf, Alison/Epi probably not w/w. maybe Alison is just town. I'll check up, see if I can cross off any other pairings

i don't know why tony is still alive if he's town lol.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:44 pm It's hard to tell what's going on without Nutella in the thread. Proto, do you think it's likely at all that me and Dunya are both wolves? What would you put the probability at?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:16 pm Tutuu I’m not really around right now but I do want to try to engage with you on this. Look at eod 1. Nutella’s made up her mind to shoot Mac. I tell her not to, repeatedly. I start working up a defense of Mac. I point her to Soneji. Soneji gets shot by a laser.
Why would I do this as an alien?
Is it like exactly me/Mac/Alison? Trying to move to a less active partner and get some cred? I mean maybe. But that’s a very unlikely world.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:28 am Though it’s close. I’m just advocating bunker use since 2 NKs tonight. Tomorrow you put two on Nutella and leave it.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:05 pm linki: yeah, i'm going through tony's iso

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:16 pm Tutuu I’m not really around right now but I do want to try to engage with you on this. Look at eod 1. Nutella’s made up her mind to shoot Mac. I tell her not to, repeatedly. I start working up a defense of Mac. I point her to Soneji. Soneji gets shot by a laser.
Why would I do this as an alien?
Is it like exactly me/Mac/Alison? Trying to move to a less active partner and get some cred? I mean maybe. But that’s a very unlikely world.

damn this is so convincing.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:22 pm sabie12:

This is sabie's latest post:

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:47 am Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

If sabie12 is alien, this line of accusation means that either sabie genuinely forgot her team didn't destroy Dizzy (which I don't believe) or that sabie12 wants us to think that (which I also don't believe).

If the mistake is real, sabie12 is a bunker.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:12 pm linki is when you make a post and it gets stopped because other people made posts while you were making a post lol. it's annoying i thought, but then i played without it and realized it's pretty cool.

@TonyStarkPrime do you think i should get shot?

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:36 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:47 am Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

I think Dunya admitted that if they were mafia that Hally is within their kill pool so shouldn't town read her for that.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:12 pm linki is when you make a post and it gets stopped because other people made posts while you were making a post lol. it's annoying i thought, but then i played without it and realized it's pretty cool.

@TonyStarkPrime do you think i should get shot?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:17 pm I am not unintelligent. I am aware that nutella shot dizzy but there were people that helped push her in that direction or help her feel like that was the right decision. Again I realize no one ever understands what I'm saying. I apologize I word things weird.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:17 pm i wanna believe carot is town based on how the soneji defence came into play right before he was shot, but i can't tell if she seriously thought he was getting shot there or if it was gonna be macomir.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:24 pm mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pm Proto, do you think any player in the game outside of me/dunya has a >30 percent chance of being an alien?

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:37 am * I think MacDougall can be completely cleared from Rej flip. --> I still wanna do some ISO tomorrow to make sure because it's only based on memories for the moment

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:24 pm mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

Don't you think mac/carot makes sense even with carot's defense? If she thinks Mac is going to get saved?

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:27 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pm Proto, do you think any player in the game outside of me/dunya has a >30 percent chance of being an alien?

The 30% was for the exact team of 2 vs all possible teams of 2. That was pure finger in air.

You are now asking me for my thoughts on % chance for any single alien where it's 25% I randomly find mafia (pretty sure it's 2/8). Actually imo since epi is always town it's 2/7 which is 28.6%.

If you want me to take you and Dunya out if the pool, its 2/5 to hit mafia assuming both of you are town. So 40%

So like yes there's a few people over 30% mafia.

Not sure if this response is what you expected though or what you were looking for.

If you don't laser TSP/Dunya and you make me choose, I probably want to see Mac's alignment after they get lasered. I assume thats more what you were asking.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:14 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:47 am Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

Yeh, not much you can really defend against there, sorry. If you’re town and want to we can try to find each other, just ping me and we can try to real time for a bit or something, see if we end up on the same page.

And I didn’t kill dizzy so it’s not really a fair thing to try and pin on me

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:24 pm mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

Don't you think mac/carot makes sense even with carot's defense? If she thinks Mac is going to get saved?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:24 pm mac, alison and nanook are my three-person poe, if i believe in carot lol.

and they all make sense as teammates.

Don't you think mac/carot makes sense even with carot's defense? If she thinks Mac is going to get saved?

i still think it's less likely carot will choose to save a total no-show and inactive over mac if they were teammates. so i find it carot/mac w/w less likely than other pairings.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:14 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:47 am Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

Yeh, not much you can really defend against there, sorry. If you’re town and want to we can try to find each other, just ping me and we can try to real time for a bit or something, see if we end up on the same page.

And I didn’t kill dizzy so it’s not really a fair thing to try and pin on me

I guess my defense is I get the sense tutuu is a stream of conciousness poster. Like they post as they're trying to figure things out whether it makes sense or not because they don't know for sure and are trying to work it all out. I feel like that was how their progession went.

I also did not accuse you of killing dizzy because obviously I know you didn't.
What page do you think we should end up on? What about dunya mac or carot how do you feel about them?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:47 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:14 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:47 am Awwwww RIP LC Hope to play with you again soon! If I had to pick from the remaining three of protos plan I'd say dunya is the most sketchy. I felt like from the time I came in I thought she was alien but couldn't quite figure out what it is. Her end of day push on dizzy wasn't great. Some town reads on her came from her saying oh I never would have killed hally.

I also thought carrots end of day wasn't great either. Them saying dont shoot dizzy so they could look like hey see they were town I'm good and then kinda disappearing.


Nanook its funny you don't like tutuus suspicion on allison but you also think allison is bad. You suspect me for something I can't defend or explain. Dizzy agreed with me on the points I made against you and now they're dead.

Yeh, not much you can really defend against there, sorry. If you’re town and want to we can try to find each other, just ping me and we can try to real time for a bit or something, see if we end up on the same page.

And I didn’t kill dizzy so it’s not really a fair thing to try and pin on me

I guess my defense is I get the sense tutuu is a stream of conciousness poster. Like they post as they're trying to figure things out whether it makes sense or not because they don't know for sure and are trying to work it all out. I feel like that was how their progession went.

I also did not accuse you of killing dizzy because obviously I know you didn't.
What page do you think we should end up on? What about dunya mac or carot how do you feel about them?

I’ve had dunya as kinda townie most of the game, I thought drago was scummy but Mac’s been pretty townie imo so that’s fine

Carot is...idk. Maybe they’re mafia? But like...if they are they’re kind of a weird fit with most partners imo, except maybe...tony, I guess? Idk. So yeah, they’re a tough read for me, but I lean town.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:43 pm and carot also doesn't make sense as partners with alison.

that leaves nanook from my poe. i'll check real quick if it makes sense.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:33 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:27 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:16 pm Proto, do you think any player in the game outside of me/dunya has a >30 percent chance of being an alien?

The 30% was for the exact team of 2 vs all possible teams of 2. That was pure finger in air.

You are now asking me for my thoughts on % chance for any single alien where it's 25% I randomly find mafia (pretty sure it's 2/8). Actually imo since epi is always town it's 2/7 which is 28.6%.

If you want me to take you and Dunya out if the pool, its 2/5 to hit mafia assuming both of you are town. So 40%

So like yes there's a few people over 30% mafia.

Not sure if this response is what you expected though or what you were looking for.

If you don't laser TSP/Dunya and you make me choose, I probably want to see Mac's alignment after they get lasered. I assume thats more what you were asking.

I was roughly pointing out that even mechanically by your strategy me and Dunya are about =rand wolf, so this is about what I was looking for. Additionally, I wanted to get where your head was at outside of shooting me/dunya. You gave me some of that, but I'd like some elaboration. Who are Mac's likely scum partners? Who's the least likely scum outside of you/Epi?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:37 am I feel like every time I ask you to give a take on Carot action X or Carot action Y you like, silently shrug your shoulders and go "I guess that's reasonable" or "yeah I think it's right" or "tbh I'm not convinced by your case on her".