The Syndicate

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:45 pm rondo completely dipped when i tried to get them to state a read on me btw - do you think that is towny, michelle?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:10 pm i see nobody has even read my tutuu comments...

i wouldn't be surprised if one of the people hyperposting since then was actually doing so to push my tutuu content under a mountain of shit

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:19 pm I have Rondo about 7/10 town. If he's mafia he's a lot better at this game than I gave him credit for.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:50 pm I do not like Urist, Nanook, DkKoba, and Scotty

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:52 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:50 pm I do not like Urist, Nanook, DkKoba, and Scotty

there is absolutely 0 world you think urist and I are partnered lol

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:24 pm i think made is a lot more under the radar than i remember him being when i rolled scum against him.

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:14 amGood morning

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:06 pm KZA has died.

Spoiler: show

They were Yennefer of Vengerberg: Lilac and Gooseberry Smelling Sorceress from Vengerberg

Michelle has been poisoned.

It is now day 2. You have 48 hours left.

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:51 pm also don't think tutuu would patronize you mac if she's wolfing, there is no gain to antagonizing you in every interaction

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:15 am

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:14 amGood morning

why did you poison Michelle?

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:17 am Someone catch me up please~

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:18 am Morning Poison, @ me with your reads when you can pls

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:17 am Someone catch me up please~

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:24 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:21 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:18 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:15 pm mac is literally confirmed town - and yet you are going against his read on me.

and yet you're attacking me for not wanting to dialogue a townread.


cmon michelle you're better than that. i can deconstruct bad reasoning all day.

people are going against all my reads so who cares

what suggests tutuu is out of her townrange?

do you normally have the same reads on slots atp in the game?

If you saw a confirmed town mac, noted day 1 beast, would your approach to him be to push against almost every read he makes while patting him on the head telling him everything's gonna be alright?

Like the fact that she is still favouring her own feelings over mine heavily implies she has TMI. It's not that I have to be right, it's that she knows which reads I am wrong on and which I am right on and all of her activity/choices are influenced by that.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:28 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:17 am Someone catch me up please~

I argued with Koba, he hard defend themselves by meta, playstyle and all, and i hard scum read them based on his posts. That is a big part of these pages.
We are in time out now because fmpov continuing this does not help much.

I will wait 24 hours to check my read.

Mac still suspects tutuu
Scotty popped up gave an easy TR to Koba for post count
Rondo feels villagery
I don't remember what Syn posted, my bad.

Made self meta-ing as well is

Ah and Epi suspected Koba as well. So is Falcon

There may be more, but this is from the top of my head

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:21 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:18 am Morning Poison, @ me with your reads when you can pls

Yeah I'll probably need some time to catch up and rethink about a few players. I'll @ you for sure. Why do you think you are poisoned and which faction did it, according to you?

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:23 am So, I don't remember KZA and Michelle is poisoned. Mac is alive. Wolves probably avoided Mac. Michelle likely villa until further notice, though still in my TLs independently of poison. Considering IC steered the EOD, I guess Syn being alive might be NAI.. But it's also possible that wolves just followed the IC to save a W!Syn.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:03 pm talking about bad reads but KZA was my top town the entire day

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:04 pm was definitely a gamer choice not to fire at me, someone wants to party

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:33 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:23 am So, I don't remember KZA and Michelle is poisoned. Mac is alive. Wolves probably avoided Mac. Michelle likely villa until further notice, though still in my TLs independently of poison. Considering IC steered the EOD, I guess Syn being alive might be NAI.. But it's also possible that wolves just followed the IC to save a W!Syn.

Honestly yeah I don't see town!poisoner choosing Michelle over other scummy people tbh. That kinda makes me think Michelle is town. I think Mac not dying is normal here, and in a way helpful for us as well. Idk why but i have this weird feeling that syn is probably not a wolf, he didn't care enough to be a wolf. But I need to read the thread and ISO him.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:09 pm well anyway:

i think michelle is mafia and the poisoner is town-aligned so good job poisoner

let me write up the thing i was finna write

i also thing syn is town and there was nothing but town on town violence day 1, will also write up on that

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:17 pm i think that @Syn is town due to his lack of self-pres. i have played with both town and mafia syn. if he tryhards its a towntell for him. he can be low energy as either alignment. the thing is, he acknowledged that he is on the chopping block. he saw that he is a top wagon and said "maybe i should go read back". he was online 30 minds before eoD iirc (as in he posted itt). i believe that it is more likely that if he is mafia, he will put the extra effort for his team to leave a self-pres vote. thats how most people feel like, since if they are part of a mafia team on discord it feels more intimate. if you are town you dont know your teammates, you might as well be playing solo.

so i think that syn's complete lack of interest (also the "i just voted for the name closest to mine" stuff are too absurd to come from scum. i think he is town

@Syn i need ur help. the good old syn-tutuu one-two combo punch. like the good old times. i got some wolves in my sights but i cant kill them on my own. i need ur big dick energy

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:18 pm Hm

[VOTE: epignosis] aubergine

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:18 pm also michelle i think partially i subconsiously think that a scum!you would just lolcat if you're confirmed condemmed or just push a pet scumread to death rather than try to sort people so there's that. a bad assumption but hey - reasonable to think who the fuck would try when they flip anyways.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:39 am

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:33 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:23 am So, I don't remember KZA and Michelle is poisoned. Mac is alive. Wolves probably avoided Mac. Michelle likely villa until further notice, though still in my TLs independently of poison. Considering IC steered the EOD, I guess Syn being alive might be NAI.. But it's also possible that wolves just followed the IC to save a W!Syn.

Honestly yeah I don't see town!poisoner choosing Michelle over other scummy people tbh. That kinda makes me think Michelle is town. I think Mac not dying is normal here, and in a way helpful for us as well. Idk why but i have this weird feeling that syn is probably not a wolf, he didn't care enough to be a wolf. But I need to read the thread and ISO him.

Why not Michelle? Michelle did push Mac before the IC reveal IIRC.
Have you played with Syn as both alignments before? How can you be sure?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:45 am The immobility of eod wagons before Mac started the CFD on Dya is concerning for me like they could be t/t wagons with wolves well parked on them, and they didn't want to switch between town wagons.

What @ everybody thinks about this?

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:48 pm imma be real i would have to shoot tutuu n1 if im scum bc i would feel bad lying to her ;-;

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:31 am Also, I looked through tutuu's ISO and say I actually have no idea about her now, it's null. Must have misread ISO at first. Could be the site colors.

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:17 am Someone catch me up please~

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:49 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:47 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:37 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:35 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:30 pm I'm someone you *need* to have experience with town!me to understand that premises on reading me are grossly incorrect if you are default scumreading me.

I am also a person who feeds into the ego of having to fight off any scumread on me so yeah.

Why am I scum holistically? Let me dissect it that way, Michelle.

Holistically you are scum because you share TMI reads, you had a very low impact day 1 and now you play overexplaining things about your play instead trying to solve

I don't want for you to be scum, that's a shade and i don't accept it. I provided serious arguments and of course you would not say i am right, isn't it?

I think you'll find those same kind of "TMI" reads in the towngames i linked.

In short - I am at least decent at this game and have found I can townhunt pretty well.

Did you consider that angle or am I just stupid in your eyes?

I sense a condescendent mindset at you and i am kind enough to ignore it.
I saw scum refusing any scum read for them before, that's a defence hard to put in practice because it requires effort, but is doable and effective.
If i am wrong in this moment, the 30th of August at 01:44 am, i will probably find you, but you doubted my capacity before even trying to understand me, and even put wrong ideas in my eyes.
What is the putpose of this post after all?

its me being annoyed at you being confbiased on something that is literally just my towngame. you could ask more useful questions like how i reached my townreads.


and i do give reasonings its just very hard to parse because im autistic and its stuff thats like not exactly verbal that i see usually

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:48 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:31 am Also, I looked through tutuu's ISO and say I actually have no idea about her now, it's null. Must have misread ISO at first. Could be the site colors.

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Urist wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:20 pm Hot take: mac is mafia-aligned innocent child

sig wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:23 pm Okay so during the night phase I’ve reached the conclusion that Axe was 100% targeted by mafia.

The more I consider roles and set up I just can’t see being burned as a civ thing. This does matter though since if it’s mafia we have to dissect why it could be them. And how much KP is still floating.

Poison is probably a vote deal if @Michelle wants to share that would be great. And I have to assume based off lore the other vig is a Witcher. Also probably have a jack of all trade floating around. Both of which would be civ in my view.


It could still be epi, but I’d not say we should clear or even consider it a civ move for epi to kill him.

For Mac, I’ve reached the conclusion you are a civ, but I do think you’re reads are a bit off and we just shouldn’t blindly sheep like some did last phase.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:24 pm i think that there is a high number of mafia in:

nanook

poison

michelle

master radish

koba

falcon

these 6 names avoided getting into scraps yesterday. they were laying low, they were just playing it cool. i think that people who's hands are clean during the day get bloody during the night. when the town is devouring itself it makes sense for you to chill out and let it happen

everyone else i can recall getting into some kind of confrontantion, and i also townread all of the people who were part of said confrontations, so that's how im pieceing the two ends together

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:30 pm i’ve never played a game without role flips, i wonder if there’s an optimal way to organize stuff

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:42 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:12 pm @MacDougall we are contacting you concerning your car's extended warranty

This is the second funniest thing in this thread.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:51 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:48 pm imma be real i would have to shoot tutuu n1 if im scum bc i would feel bad lying to her ;-;

nah its cool iss just a game, if ur mafia do manipulate me all u can. i'd be honored to, it's like fencing u know. good competitive sportsmanship

if i gotta be honest, i scumread u more than im expressing, and im afraid to expess it coz im not the type to argue with my scumreads too much on why i think they're scum, and im afraid if u are town that u will be upset at me and also id be afraid if ur town that u'd feel antagonized by too much ppl

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:52 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:48 am

Ruri wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:31 am Also, I looked through tutuu's ISO and say I actually have no idea about her now, it's null. Must have misread ISO at first. Could be the site colors.

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Checked ISO after EOD, didn't see solid content. Then I said their ISO read fine in general, IIRC. Wilgy pushed me for that, which is understandable in hindsight.

Not sure what her ISO looks like on D2 though.