Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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what does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
That of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
I get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.
If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:39 pm I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair
that's a bad shotJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:39 pm I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair
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Maybe HK. I’d be more confident in that read if we’d yeeted a wolf.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.
real quick 112, what's your POE/Solve? Where do you think the wolves are hiding?112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:17 pmthat's a bad shotJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:39 pm I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair
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His reads show no progression and he continued to push the ted wagon for bad reasons after being shown that his stated reasons were invalid. He said he was going after ted due to a couple of d0 posts as well as the fact that ted was being defensive & deflective. I told him to look at ted's iso and point out where ted was being defensive. Hk's response was essentially "ok well he's not being defensive but he's still lock scum for the d0 stuff". This was on d2. Absolutely no progression on the read, and when ted flipped town hk's reads didn't change at all. Personally, when I find out that I was that wrong on someone, my reads are shaken at least a little.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:12 amWhy do you scumread HK?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:10 amOh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:46 amMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:32 pm In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.
LOL what kind of accusation is this? I haven't been pushing you because I haven't had an execution vote in 2 days. I did lay out my reasons for suspecting you clearly at EoD yesterday though. I cannot believe you're trying to misrepresent my play so egregiously, I actually laughed out loud when I read this.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:29 amthis, btw, is one of the reasons I scum read you so hard. you've been up my butt for days now but all you do is kvetch about it. You're not willing to actually [i[push[/i] me but you're totally willing to keep spewing "HK is a wolf guys" into the thread.Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:10 amOh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:46 amMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:32 pm In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.
Beep beepfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:28 amSorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:26 amThis is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.
Town: TSP
Scum: falcon
It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?
No, thats never why
I'm not mafia, sorry to disappoint you. If you're town you've wasted your ability.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:39 pm I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair
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Is that like... the Road Runner?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:18 pmBeep beepfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:28 amSorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:26 amThis is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.
Town: TSP
Scum: falcon
It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?
No, thats never why
No it's the sound a bus makes.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:28 pmIs that like... the Road Runner?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:18 pmBeep beepfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:28 amSorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:26 amThis is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.
Town: TSP
Scum: falcon
It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?
No, thats never why
So it means you think falcon and I are wolfmates. Sub-par slang IMO.Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:52 pmNo it's the sound a bus makes.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:28 pmIs that like... the Road Runner?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:18 pmBeep beepfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:28 amSorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:26 amThis is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.
Town: TSP
Scum: falcon
It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?
No, thats never why
What's this all about?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:41 pmI listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:37 pm In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:39 pm I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair
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All in good timeLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:56 pmWhat's this all about?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pmyou're reading for content but the context is also important to note.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:39 pm I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair
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Agreed. Well below par. Plus I'm not a wolfLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:53 pmSo it means you think falcon and I are wolfmates. Sub-par slang IMO.Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:52 pmNo it's the sound a bus makes.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:28 pmIs that like... the Road Runner?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:18 pmBeep beepfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:28 amSorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.
It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?
No, thats never why
I know you're being flippant, but I'll answer seriously anyway. No mark tokens were given out on N1.
As soon as we yeet Urist?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:38 pm And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.
no, definitely before. eta in 11 hoursLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:41 pmAs soon as we yeet Urist?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:38 pm And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:42 pmno, definitely before. eta in 11 hoursLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:41 pmAs soon as we yeet Urist?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:38 pm And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.
spoilers mate, spoilers!Enrique wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:30 pmJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:42 pmno, definitely before. eta in 11 hoursLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:41 pmAs soon as we yeet Urist?Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:38 pm And you would be correct with that observation. Like I said, it will become clearer soon enough.Spoiler: show
Hello. I have done it. I have also been silenced. The purpose of the neighborhood is as follows: this ability gains its power from the existence of the confirmed town epi. I will plan on sheeping whatever Epi decides (barring him making a stupid decision or disappearing). However, I only have 10 posts to use in the thread and I have to use posts to vote so HK and Epi speak for me today.
Because there's a beneficial side to my action and I knew you'd be the least affected since you'd most likely be able to speak through a neighborhood today.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:47 pmHello. I have done it. I have also been silenced. The purpose of the neighborhood is as follows: this ability gains its power from the existence of the confirmed town epi. I will plan on sheeping whatever Epi decides (barring him making a stupid decision or disappearing). However, I only have 10 posts to use in the thread and I have to use posts to vote so HK and Epi speak for me today.
Would also love to know why you silenced me. smh. [VOTE: urist] aubergine that's not nice.
not surehollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:35 pmreal quick 112, what's your POE/Solve? Where do you think the wolves are hiding?112 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:17 pmthat's a bad shotJustplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:31 pmI get that. I was just saying that there should be one other town-read in there if he’d be comfortable giving one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:22 pmThat of all the people you list Jack is most confident in Enrique?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:16 pmwhat does this mean?hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:15 pm
you're reading for content but the context is also important to note.
Also, why isn't Urist in your POE of 6?
I don’t know. People don’t seem to be suspecting Urist when I ask for suspects. I thought someone implied there was a mechanical reason to view him as town.
I am just pooling together what seems to be the consensus opinion among the responses I’ve gotten. I haven’f actually read stuff.If we yeet Urist, and he’s mafia, I get a vig shot. I am currently aiming it at 112 right now.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:39 pm I think Urist/112 are tied together with the way Urist handled Bolas and the way he's town reading the slot even without being able to commit to a townread on 112 themselves. Yeah, I get not having read through all the posts yet, that's fair
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I suspect that the ability which created the special execution mechanic on d3 is the same one that created the special execution mechanic today. It doesn't make any sense for them to be two separate abilities (what would happen if they were both used at the same time?)
This neighborhood and it's yeet controlling ability is from TSP. I knew this was possible in the Dunya neighborhood. She asked me not to out that ability. TSP has given me his approval to this postUrist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:58 pmI suspect that the ability which created the special execution mechanic on d3 is the same one that created the special execution mechanic today. It doesn't make any sense for them to be two separate abilities (what would happen if they were both used at the same time?)
Also, dunya was given a ton of mana for n2 and I don't think anyone gave her mana for n3, so how would Tony execute this special ability unless it was initially triggered n2 and this is just an after-effect?
What I'm getting at is that TSP is probably mafia. And that, unfortunately, I'm probably wrong on hk and that he's likely town after all.
jpic had already had a wagon on him and was actively being discussed as an execution option. He also never had a vote on him to save him on d3 (unlike Wilgy, who was voted by Jack at one point).
Regardless of this, HK isn't getting lynched today.Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:09 pmHis reads show no progression and he continued to push the ted wagon for bad reasons after being shown that his stated reasons were invalid. He said he was going after ted due to a couple of d0 posts as well as the fact that ted was being defensive & deflective. I told him to look at ted's iso and point out where ted was being defensive. Hk's response was essentially "ok well he's not being defensive but he's still lock scum for the d0 stuff". This was on d2. Absolutely no progression on the read, and when ted flipped town hk's reads didn't change at all. Personally, when I find out that I was that wrong on someone, my reads are shaken at least a little.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:12 amWhy do you scumread HK?Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:10 amOh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:46 amMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:32 pm In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.
He also keeps stating that my read on 112 is strange. I've repeatedly said that it's a weak town read due to a hunch I have on Esooa's meta. Hk is calling me scum because I don't have a read on 112. I'll ask you jpic, has 112 done anything especially alignment-indicative this game? I disagree that he hasn't been solvy... he hasn't posted a ton of questions, but he's been posting his reads and he tried to engage ted on d2 when he was pushing him (note: 112 wasn't here on d1 and d3 was a crapshoot). I don't think I've received a response from hk about what "not solvy" really means to him, but that's the only objection he has to 112's play. Considering this, it's very odd that hk's main complaint about me is that I'm defending 112 when hk's read of 112 is so weak and vague.
Those two reasons are the main reasons for why I suspect hk.
