The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:29 am**

fyi INH could have been resurrected with the resurrection stone. If scum got possession of it then it effectively became a throwaway item they'd want to use straight away, since it's no use to them as all roles flip. No fuckery there.

Unless he was resurrected by town in which case admit yourself to St. Mungo's ASAP.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:31 am**

Long Con and Bullzeye/speedchuck

Long Con's stuff

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Immediately after giving timmer crud for a hedgey post, LC hedges on his Bullzeye read. Eh.

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AKA "Bullzeye, get in here and respond."

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LC gave speedchuck 2.0 a green read because he named a couple suspects and pointed at player salad. This isn't my favorite thing re: speedchuck, as it's a concerted effort by LC to give him civilian credit that doesn't really occur often in his posts.

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Idle chatter. Meh.

Green in the LC WIFOM legacy. Don't care about this.

Bullzeye/speedchuck's stuff

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Ew. Feels like speed forced LC's name into this post, and I don't care for it.

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speed's immediate response to DH suspecting LC was this question. Its intrigue re: LC may less than its intrigue re: Sloonei if speedchuck turns out bad.

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speedchuck voted LC briefly with a few hours remaining in D3. It's important to note that a wagon hadn't really formed yet (to my memory), and he ended up moving his vote anyway to me and later Glorfindel (before ending the day on LC -- to be discussed later). This doesn't move me either way.

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His conviction in that vote must have been very low, because he was supportive of the doubts I raised about an LC lynch as I explored my own read. I don't care for this, because I didn't even think the arguments were that great -- it was why I brought them back and asked for feedback.

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Idle babble about nutella in a different game, while he was presently voting for the guy. This is awkward.

When he switched his vote to me, he included LC in the good side of a POE list. I don't know how that happened. A conflicted read is not the same thing as "you're not in my suspect pool anymore". Not into it, brev.

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Okay, I guess I have to vote for LC now, but I am going to shit in JJJ's corn flakes as I do so.

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Conclusion

I think speedchuck emerges looking worse. A number of small or moderate points add up to a distinctly negative sum.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:32 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:29 am fyi INH could have been resurrected with the resurrection stone. If scum got possession of it then it effectively became a throwaway item they'd want to use straight away, since it's no use to them as all roles flip. No fuckery there.

Unless he was resurrected by town in which case admit yourself to St. Mungo's ASAP.

Didn't the rezz say Phoenix?

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:33 am**

So, some thoughts... we've got Quin and speed's info clashing. We've got poutanko suddenly revealing cop-a-bilities which suddenly cast doubt on speed. This is very convenient. But... if speed is right, this means the baddies told one of their members (Pout) to torpedo themselves in order to get him lynched, which would be radical.

If speed is a baddie, what does this mean? If the baddies have a watching power, they watched their own baddie member to see who kills him? Why? They would assume that I was going to do the kill, right? Why waste a night on confirming what you already sort of knew? Unless due to night 1 results they guessed that there is a second vig? In which case, why come out publicly that you watched LC and know the person is out there? That's primo baddie team private info. They would just quietly NK that person tonight. So why this whole charade, if speed is bad? They risk that person coming out publicly and then getting protected tonight somehow.

either way looks weird as hell.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:33 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:32 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:29 am fyi INH could have been resurrected with the resurrection stone. If scum got possession of it then it effectively became a throwaway item they'd want to use straight away, since it's no use to them as all roles flip. No fuckery there.

Unless he was resurrected by town in which case admit yourself to St. Mungo's ASAP.
Didn't the rezz say Phoenix?

Yes, but the stone thematically fits a rezz too. Technically a temporary rezz but that depends on how close DDL matched items to their use in the books.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:38 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:20 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:50 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:17 pm House cup results for Day/Night 3!

Just like in the books, when you take the protagonists out of the equation, the winner is...

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Slytherin!

Please pick one of the items in the first page, folks.

@sprityo
@Jackofhearts2005
@karavalenge
@timmer

Fuck yeah. Who wants to be my new roomie?
maybe if you ever had anything remotely interesting to say ever

I saw you mentioned me and I was like “I’ve scumread Nutella all game but it would be funny to be masoned with her for a phase.”

Imagine my disappointment.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:38 am**

Also, Kyle is more fun than all of you.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:41 am**

Oh and [VOTE: INH] aubergine

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:43 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:33 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:32 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:29 am fyi INH could have been resurrected with the resurrection stone. If scum got possession of it then it effectively became a throwaway item they'd want to use straight away, since it's no use to them as all roles flip. No fuckery there.

Unless he was resurrected by town in which case admit yourself to St. Mungo's ASAP.
Didn't the rezz say Phoenix?
Yes, but the stone thematically fits a rezz too. Technically a temporary rezz but that depends on how close DDL matched items to their use in the books.

I'll concede that. But also if the Ressurection Stone was responsible would DDL have included the bit about the [Phoenix]? This not being a bastard game.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:47 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:43 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:33 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:32 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:29 am fyi INH could have been resurrected with the resurrection stone. If scum got possession of it then it effectively became a throwaway item they'd want to use straight away, since it's no use to them as all roles flip. No fuckery there.

Unless he was resurrected by town in which case admit yourself to St. Mungo's ASAP.
Didn't the rezz say Phoenix?
Yes, but the stone thematically fits a rezz too. Technically a temporary rezz but that depends on how close DDL matched items to their use in the books.
I'll concede that. But also if the Ressurection Stone was responsible would DDL have included the bit about the [Phoenix]? This not being a bastard game.

Oh, yeah I'm being dumb. I forgot it was a Phoenix and thought you were talking about the Phoenix rezz as a whole.

I mean...what are the chances a scum rolled with a rezz? You're right that it seems bastardy.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:47 am**

@ whoever rezzed INH

I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed. And you're fucking nuts.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:51 am**

I think it's entirely possible that the rezz was a gift to compensate for some people APPARENTLY threatening to quit mafia forever in a huff. It's only a guess, but it would certainly be an understandable way to do it. An outed civ ruins a day for the baddies? here, have a rezz that fucks up a day for the good team.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:53 am**

Ironically I would be more upset if the rezz was compensation for the baddies than I was about the Poo-Pooing and the huffing and puffing and all that shit.

I don't think it *was* compensation, but if it was, Major primo garbo.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:54 am**

I dunno. I've never witnessed a host directly interfere like that. If it was a rezz designed to punish us I think he'd have straight up said it too.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:58 am**

Long Con and Owner/Sloonei

Long Con's stuff

Long Con's support of nutella's observation of salad came at Owner's expense. One must note that LC handed my salad accusation against INH in much the same way.

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Irrelevant to me, but maybe y'all care.

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In response to the discussion of Owner potentially slipping, LC stood in her defense. I don't think this is necessarily some terrible thing, as TMI is as believable as protection of a teammate. This in isolation doesn't move me.

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LC tossed Owner a couple of softball questions here. Not my favorite thing. This just provides her with something to talk about that wouldn't be likely to amount to much of anything.

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LC went to a lot of trouble to explain this vote for TH. He was concrete in saying he didn't believe Owner to be bad, and I can't really tell how he [pretended to] arrive at this conclusion. Pursuing a hallow might be an authentic thing, but given his own posts prior to this I think it looks like he wants to vote Not Owner. So that's not ideal for present-day Sloonei.

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This piggy-back is rather blatant. Barely a decent look for Sloonei.

LC mentions Owner numerous times in this post, but incidentally so as he is taking to/about Luna. I don't know what to do with this. I will do nothing.

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This one kind of bears the appearance of TMI, but not in the usual way. It looks like Long Con knows Owner is scum and is setting up karavalenge to look like a butt if she gets lynched.

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dum

LC places Sloonei at orange in his WIFOM rainbow. Perhaps to my own detriment, I actually find this interesting. LC had been giving Slowner a civilian nod for much of the game, and this represents a turn. I wonder if he WIFOMed himself in his effort to WIFOM everyone else, because there's no need or reason for this placement. That would suggest that some unseen strategy underlies it, and that's not a good thing.

Owner/Sloonei's stuff

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"Unrelated" is right. Yikes. Check the post in its full context to see why I find it to be yikes.

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Fair questions for a replacement trying to get a clue. I don't know that Sloonei did anything with them though. He ended up voting for Jack and was the only one to do so. That isn't not Sloonei-like.

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Conclusion

This is a net negative for Slowner.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:02 am**

Wow you don't say.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:04 am**

Hey you know what would be cool would be if the fallback wagon was Sloonei and not Speedchuck.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:07 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:04 am Hey you know what would be cool would be if the fallback wagon was Sloonei and not Speedchuck.

That would be neat.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:08 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:04 am Hey you know what would be cool would be if the fallback wagon was Sloonei and not Speedchuck.

I think they both look bad, and one of them is red checked. What do you think of speedchuck?

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:10 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:08 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:04 am Hey you know what would be cool would be if the fallback wagon was Sloonei and not Speedchuck.
I think they both look bad, and one of them is red checked. What do you think of speedchuck?

I could dial in on him in a read tomorrow. He's Bullzeye now, right?

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:10 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:23 am Hallows wouldn't thematically explain it, and there aren't any civilian secrets. That leaves three explanations afaik.

1. I'm a dirty rotten liar and deep down I know I deserve to be punished.
2. speedchuck is a dirty rotten liar and deep down he knows he deserves to be punished.
3. There's a redirection hidden behind the secrets of the mafia team.

I'm leaning #2.

If number 3 is true, then it's probable that scum killed scum (Because of your power, it couldn't be a civ vig, so that leaves room only for redirect screwery) and that would nail us a confirmed baddie.

So yeah, I might be holding onto a confirmed baddie. I want to figure that out before day end.

If we hash this out while I'm alive, then after I die, people will trust me in retrospect and have a scumfirm. Yeah?

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:12 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:10 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:08 am
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:04 am Hey you know what would be cool would be if the fallback wagon was Sloonei and not Speedchuck.
I think they both look bad, and one of them is red checked. What do you think of speedchuck?
I could dial in on him in a read tomorrow. He's Bullzeye now, right?

That's him.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:13 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:10 am
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:23 am Hallows wouldn't thematically explain it, and there aren't any civilian secrets. That leaves three explanations afaik.

1. I'm a dirty rotten liar and deep down I know I deserve to be punished.
2. speedchuck is a dirty rotten liar and deep down he knows he deserves to be punished.
3. There's a redirection hidden behind the secrets of the mafia team.

I'm leaning #2.
If number 3 is true, then it's probable that scum killed scum (Because of your power, it couldn't be a civ vig, so that leaves room only for redirect screwery) and that would nail us a confirmed baddie.

So yeah, I might be holding onto a confirmed baddie. I want to figure that out before day end.

If we hash this out while I'm alive, then after I die, people will trust me in retrospect and have a scumfirm. Yeah?

It could be a civ vig. I only protected against Dark Arts.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:15 am**

Long Con and poutanko

Long Con's stuff

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Nothing.

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When LC tossed Owner the aforementioned softballs, it involved prodding her to talk about poutanko's meta commentary. I kinda get the impression poutanko is in this dialogue incidentally, and that LC didn't have a specific design for her in referencing her material. It's a small point, but it's something.

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This communication is pretty low-pressure. Part of me feels this looks like LC explaining himself to someone who doesn't already have the answers (which would be good for poutanko), but I am not quite willing to take that leap. There's not enough here.

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This is pretty much the same.

Middle green in the WIFOM list. Don't care.

poutanko's stuff

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poutanko gave LC some crap for his handling of Bullzeye's D1 vote. It looks okay I guess.

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When I asked poutanko for most and least trusted players, he included LC among the latter group (still citing the Bullzeye stuff). Sure.

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Conclusion

As you can see by the boring text sizes, none of this makes me feel much of anything. If I force myself to take a stance, I'll say it's better than nothing for poutanko.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:19 am**

speedchuck's reaction to being red checked doesn't look great to me. Total, immediate rationality as he displayed is hard to believe. I'd expect at least some brief period of combat to stem from a false red check.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:34 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:19 am speedchuck's reaction to being red checked doesn't look great to me. Total, immediate rationality as he displayed is hard to believe. I'd expect at least some brief period of combat to stem from a false red check.

+1. Like he's calmly like "ah yep must've been a redirect" and then turning around and acting like his info thing with Quin/whomever is infallible.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:40 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:24 am I'm working today, soon, until too close to the lynch. There are a few cases I'd like to reread, the Soneji one looks all right, but it didn't blow my skirt up on the first read. I think Bullzeye is off the table now with a strong vote of confidence from Timmer. Is that something folks agree with? He said 'no cop' but who really knows, that's just what a cop would say. :hahah:

I saw this while compiling another interaction, and I think I missed it in my LC/speedzeye review. So here you go. You don't need more of my takes. Give me your takes. What does this say to you, dear reader?

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:47 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:40 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:24 am I'm working today, soon, until too close to the lynch. There are a few cases I'd like to reread, the Soneji one looks all right, but it didn't blow my skirt up on the first read. I think Bullzeye is off the table now with a strong vote of confidence from Timmer. Is that something folks agree with? He said 'no cop' but who really knows, that's just what a cop would say. :hahah:
I saw this while compiling another interaction, and I think I missed it in my LC/speedzeye review. So here you go. You don't need more of my takes. Give me your takes. What does this say to you, dear reader?

:hahah:

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:57 am**

Long Con and Lunalee

Long Con's stuff

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LC weighed in on some D1 dichotomy he created between Luna and TH and ends up suggesting the two of them could be distancing from each other. This is made-up-shit of the highest order such that any strategy beyond "make other people look bad" seems to have no role -- which would be decent for Luna.

*clicks page 2 of LC's posts and searches Luna, finds 64 results*

Huge post in which LC reviews Luna. This seems to go nowhere, as a concrete stance never arrives other than a single instance of LC calling one of her posts "solid" and a single diss about her reads on Epi and Owner. Again, LC is using Luna as a springboard to generate fake stuff to look like he's hunting. I think it's a nice look on her, because most bad guys aren't going to use their own teammates for this purpose. WIFOM though, etc, blah blah.

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The review didn't make Luna seem very orange to me. Convenient.

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Long Con voted Luna on D2. His final vote ended up on INH. In conjunction with the content that preceded it, I think LC felt in the moment that this was his most justified vote -- and he definitely worked hard to ensure it'd be that way.

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He peeled off of that vote in response to nutella's comments here, when she was critical of INH for his own handling of Luna. It may be important here that LC and INH were teammates, and when LC saw his teammate drawing nutella's ire for going after Luna LC felt the need to be different from INH. Again, I think this all works nicely for Luna. I grant that there are a lot of moving pieces, so I hope others will chime in with disagreements if they have them.

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LC uses Luna's defenses of me to prod nutella, and it kind of has a patronizing tone (nutella's suspicion of me is cute but unfounded, look here at Lunalee's important points to the contrary). This may not mean much, but I think there's potential for others to take more from it.

Lengthy exchange with nutella about Luna -- nutella made a lot of the same assertions I am making right now about LC in this dialogue, and LC tried to explain himself thoroughly. This might say more about nutella, but it continues to fit within a civilian-Luna narrative.

Middle green in the WIFOM rainbow. Don't care.

Lunalee's stuff

She colors LC middle green in her D3 rainbow after having initially forgotten to include him. I barely care.

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Oops. If she's his teammate she sure didn't try very hard to sell this point.

timmer voiced concerns about LC and Luna supported them (in this post bringing LC's relevant post back into the dialogue. This doesn't mean much to me given that it originated with timmer.

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This kinda makes me feel icky. It's after LC's failed lynch, so take it with whatever grains of salt you feel appropriate.

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Conclusion

Overall this is positive for Lunalee. Only the last post there makes me wonder.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:14 am**

Long Con and MacDougall

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k

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LC was firmly planted in both camps simultaneously during the Bullzeye D1 vote saga, and Mac got one gripe in the midst of it. Don't care. More. More.

We have Limp Bizkit banter in my Mafia game thread. Burn them both.

They have a brief spat about Mac calling nutella arrogant. This is silly slip type stuff and I think it's a decent look for Mac. LC tried to capitalize on an oopsie.

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LC and Mac chattered about this nonsense for a bit. Don't care. There are numerous other related posts I am not going to copy/paste.

Light orange in the WIFOM rainbow. The other two people colored that way are civilians, so...

MacDougall's stuff

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This right here is that one post where Mac's read on LC was "scrotum".

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k

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Word.

Mac includes LC among a few players that he feels are maintaining some presence without the necessary effort to show for it. True enough, though all the names included here dilutes the value of the post in this context.

Bottom tier of suspicion in a D3 colorless rainbow. Word.

Mac specifically asked us to remember the nutella/arrogant exchange. Hey Mac! I remembered it!

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Conclusion

As always for a player with generally short posts, drawing concrete conclusions is difficult. On balance though I'll give Mac a point or two.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:34 am**

Long Con and nutella

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PLAYER SALAD! Long Con reacts with enthusiasm to nutella pointing out potential salad from Owner. He did the same thing when I pointed it out re: INH. Decent look.

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Long Con prodded me for my read on nutella. I responded quickly and he did nothing with it. That would suggest he didn't actually care about my read on nutella, which would be nice for her. Faker or not, he would likely have some vested interest in how I read his teammate.

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As I mentioned in the Luna review, LC fled from his Luna vote to an INH vote when he observed how nutella handled INH's own Luna vote. He was shook, cuz nutella hella scary. Good look.

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Nice silly tinfoil you silly civilian, what a silly read you have there, why don't you check out these points against your tinfoil you goof?

Good.

It was important to LC that nutella understand what he was doing with Luna. It looks like he was talking to someone who cannot understand more deeply what he intended, as in there's no BTSC.

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speed 2.0's suspicion of nutella is "healthy", because...? K.

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I think you just accidentally revealed nutella is Civ.

Lengthy chatter about Colin and rezgate. Don't care.

Top green in the WIFOM rainbow. *deeeeeep breath* Don't care.

nutella's stuff

LC is town in her D2 GTHs. Oh well.

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This question is a bit softball.

Long Con and others are ON NOTICE on D3. k

lol *clap emoji*

I don't feel like continuing this. I have plenty.

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Conclusion

nutella emerges looking stupendous.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:44 am**

Long Con and Quin

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Nothing.

There are a lot of incidental mentions of Quin on page 2 of Long Con's ISO that I have ignored, because none of them interest me. Click if you care.

Middle green in the WIFOM rainbow. *spells out with armpit farts* d-o-n-t-c-a-r-e

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This whole thing with Colin was silly, so I give Quin a meh for contributing to it alongside Long Con.

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Quin stood in LC's court when he got shit from nutella. He is assertive in his language, but doesn't explain himself much.

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Conclusion

Purely by interactions I have no reason to give Quin credit. Obviously the night action shit y'all are babbling about is of some relevance. I have paid very little attention to that to this point, so shrug.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:54 am**

Long Con and Jackofhearts2005

Long Con's stuff

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Nothing.

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Just a big ol' ballsack.

More nothing.

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LC provided this non-read take on Jack's meta along with Mac and TH. It means little to me.

Top green in the WIFOM rainbow. Dön't câre

Jack's stuff

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I didn't even notice the vote before when I posted this. It's a thing. I kinda barely care in a negative way, but only kinda barely.

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[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], it appears we disagree on this dynamic. Can you state your present feelings and expand?

They talked a bit about Sloonei "townslipping" and it went nowhere.

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Conclusion

The points made here aren't terribly moving, but they are a slight negative for Jack.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:54 am**

I was hoping to finish these tonight, but I am too tired. Bye.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:58 am**

For what it’s worth I asked my questions about Long Con after the day had ended. He was dead before there was anything I could have done with the line of questioning.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:07 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:58 am For what it’s worth I asked my questions about Long Con after the day had ended. He was dead before there was anything I could have done with the line of questioning.

hunt

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:15 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:27 pm If I die all vigs better target INH to make use of the wasted day phase

This is one of those things only Mafia say

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:17 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:57 pm So wait the crowd that thinks INH was rezzed in order to perpetrate some kinda fuckery doesn't think Poutanko suddenly "coming out" with this "claimerino" doesn't count as "some kind of fuckery"

Mkay.

Yeah pretty much.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:21 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:04 am Hey you know what would be cool would be if the fallback wagon was Sloonei and not Speedchuck.

I will have you know that I scum read Sloonei before he was even in the game.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:22 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:19 am speedchuck's reaction to being red checked doesn't look great to me. Total, immediate rationality as he displayed is hard to believe. I'd expect at least some brief period of combat to stem from a false red check.

Agreeliarmus!

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:46 am**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:05 am Hey yall remember that time LC saved Owner and then defended her a bunch and also said Sloonei townslipped lol good times amirite.

We can only lynch one person at a time DH, but believe you me, I got bad desires.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:54 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:19 am speedchuck's reaction to being red checked doesn't look great to me. Total, immediate rationality as he displayed is hard to believe. I'd expect at least some brief period of combat to stem from a false red check.

Agreed. Dumbish comparison but it reminds me of One Hour Werewolf where Speed knew he’d been found out and started maneuvering around it.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:39 am**

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:58 am**

good morning everyone -

sprityo, any thoughts this morning?

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:08 am**

I called Speedchuck our on being mafia like 3 pages ago and it got swept under the rug like an unwanted stepchild

Other than that, I’m on my way to work and it’s a bit chilly outside

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:15 am**

I wasn't active last night mostly because I was immersed in election results and had a disappointing game night which kinda got my head out of the game. I did skim what was happening. I feel much better today though, the game goes on.

I totally agree with Jay's statement about speed's reaction to a red check. I think most people would be reacting with more emotion. I'm somewhat confused though about one thing: what is the tangle regarding what speed and Quin are claiming about their night actions? I got confused somehow reading through it I'm also torn about whether to vote speed or INH today. Are those of you voting speed doing so because you're afraid INH has a lynch protect a la LC? Or is there another reason you consider him more dangerous. Apologies if I missed the explanation.

I don't have time this morning to publish a list of who's currently in and out of my POE but I will do it when I get home from work, hopefully around 3:00.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:24 am**

I had time after all. Note this list may change - just because someone is out of the POE right now doesn't mean they will stay out. Depends on future behavior. And obviously people can and should move up to civ.

I'm reading these people as civ (these are not in any particular order):

Jay
nutella
DH
Mac
poutanko
Quin
Colin
kara

Unsure about:

Jack
Luna - she's right on the line, I will try to clear her next
Sloonei
sprityo
timmer - I thought I had cleared him but then something happened - need to re-read soon

Pretty sure he's bad and know he's bad:

speed
INH

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:48 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:28 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:24 pm Trading to [VOTE: SPEED] aubergine wagon for now, I guess
If you did that in a dream you could call it an REM speedwagon

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:52 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:54 am I was hoping to finish these tonight, but I am too tired. Bye.

Hey, I noticed some strange interactions between Long Con and Bullz that you pulled back up in both mine and Nutella's analyses. Since you're away, I want to go ahead and pull those up.

Posted: **Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:59 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:13 am It could be a civ vig. I only protected against Dark Arts.

Oh? Not just negative abilities?

...

Okay.

I'm curious as to how you were misdirected without dark arts involved, but I'll leave the other person as a townfirm for now.

The Syndicate

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