Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 2]
Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 10:49 am
I also have zero trouble seeing a world where hawk and Owner are both mafia.
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Oh so you know Mac is town?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 amNot claim fruit vendor.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 amWhat would you do if put into the situation she was and she was a strong pro town power role?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:27 amOwner claimed fruit vender. You tell me. And I'm the drunk one....MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:26 amHow exactly is this true? Is it because you tracked her to Jay and there was no kill? Did you consider she might be the doctor? Or the fruit is a vest?
Or am I missing something?![]()
Mac, I get it. Your'e town and all, but I am in god mode right now. Just trust me.
Exactly!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:48 am I think you’re making too many mechanical assumptions Gavial. hawkataine is in the POE anyway and that may be enough for a vote, but let’s remember this is a role madness game.
Shit if your mafia your fuckin good.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:50 amOh so you know Mac is town?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 amNot claim fruit vendor.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 amWhat would you do if put into the situation she was and she was a strong pro town power role?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:27 amOwner claimed fruit vender. You tell me. And I'm the drunk one....MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:26 amHow exactly is this true? Is it because you tracked her to Jay and there was no kill? Did you consider she might be the doctor? Or the fruit is a vest?
Or am I missing something?![]()
Mac, I get it. Your'e town and all, but I am in god mode right now. Just trust me.
Are you not gonna protest about the openwolfing accusation?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:46 amWhy did you in the first place though?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:40 amYeah I probs just gonna stop arguing with the drunk guy about the openwolf lolSonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 amIf you're a flower vendor, why not say who you visited? Or at least say "no it wasn't Jay"?
She dodged Sean's question, even if it is a fake trap, it's a poor reaction.
How about I read you on actions.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:52 am I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.
Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.
It's not a bear, it's a lion. And its name is Kon, the almighty... like me.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:59 amAt this point? Jack (I didn't intend this, but realized afterwards that I think the bear is called jack? very funny;)) shit in my mind. I have a singular focus. I feel like I am the owner of a whole new idea.Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:55 amWhat would Alison's flip mean for Guillo and Mac?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:31 pm Okay, end of Page 9. Guillo pointed out possible wolves in Nutella/Alison. Guillo also went from simply bear posting to regular posting in a way I kind of like (he wanted to do a gimmick, but then it feels like he just got excited as town and dropped the gimmick). Clearly Nutella was a hit, and I agree about Alison thus far. Mac also kind of pushed in that direction, and Nutella seems to be trying to butter Mac up afterwards (defended Mac at some point, and talked about how good Mac was in spiderverse, blah blah blah), so I am giving Mac a few town points here. Guillo probably also good, but seems to be getting less reactions from Nutella and others. I'd like to see Alison's flip to help sort these two.
If I were scum I'd know it was a red check or not. My entire point is that I don't.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:55 amSo you aren’t voting what you admit to be a red check?
Your saving them by voting the CW that’s Town?
Do I sound unconfident to you?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:01 am The conversation feels rather like a nitpick between two high “equity” suspects on a mafia team that probably has negative twelve confidence right now.
It depends of what poisoner role is. If it's one shot, there is no healer as it is a one time thing and a healer would nerf it.Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:23 amI just saw this and realized if wolves poisoned Alison that's a pretty weird choice to poison someone on nutella's wagon, they must like not be worried about a healer at all.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:51 am By the way if there's a poison healer out there they should heal Alison.
Yea we had one on mafc once.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:06 amIt depends of what poisoner role is. If it's one shot, there is no healer as it is a one time thing and a healer would nerf it.Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:23 amI just saw this and realized if wolves poisoned Alison that's a pretty weird choice to poison someone on nutella's wagon, they must like not be worried about a healer at all.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:51 am By the way if there's a poison healer out there they should heal Alison.
If it's every night, there could be two poisoners, one town and one wolf, with one town healer, meaning one poisoner holstered last night, surely the town one.
I havent seen a third party poisoner though. Do they exist?
Excuse me but my vote ended on Nutella at EoDSonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:17 amnutella - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall, Sonny, Alison, lost monkey, Guillotine, Made, GavialKito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:23 pmBy the way I didn't vote for anybody D1. How come I'm not in your off wagon voters POE?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:19 pmAbsolutely. I would love for those three or four to talk about one another at length.
Somebody else didn't vote but I can't find who it was, the vote count in the OP is making my eyes bleed
Made - Tangrowth, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Long Con, Sloonei, hawkataine, Owner of a Lonely Heart
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Dana, Allcrab, Seanzie, bad bunny
Dana - Actvscenei
Guillotine - Belzy
No vote - Garden Gnome, Kito, MartinGG99
Naw. I don’t figure you’re mafia. You’re in my POE only because I don’t know you and your nutella actions don’t clear you.Kito wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:04 amDo I sound unconfident to you?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:01 am The conversation feels rather like a nitpick between two high “equity” suspects on a mafia team that probably has negative twelve confidence right now.
That’s what it says, the only reason made and gavial are listed after you is because they didn’t vote in thread so I don’t know when they voted.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:11 amExcuse me but my vote ended on Nutella at EoDSonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:17 amnutella - NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall, Sonny, Alison, lost monkey, Guillotine, Made, GavialKito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:23 pmBy the way I didn't vote for anybody D1. How come I'm not in your off wagon voters POE?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:19 pmAbsolutely. I would love for those three or four to talk about one another at length.
Somebody else didn't vote but I can't find who it was, the vote count in the OP is making my eyes bleed
Made - Tangrowth, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Long Con, Sloonei, hawkataine, Owner of a Lonely Heart
Owner of a Lonely Heart - Dana, Allcrab, Seanzie, bad bunny
Dana - Actvscenei
Guillotine - Belzy
No vote - Garden Gnome, Kito, MartinGG99
I didn’t.lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:28 amWhen i was lurking at the end of they day, this post irked me a little. If you had that thought why move the vote when most of the day you sussed nutella?
<3JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:57 am I’ll be real the biggest draw of the hawk wagon for me is Nanook’s vote. That he’s already given Gavial the necessary sarcasm and still placed the vote anyway speaks to my soul.
Yes. nutella.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:51 amExactly!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:48 am I think you’re making too many mechanical assumptions Gavial. hawkataine is in the POE anyway and that may be enough for a vote, but let’s remember this is a role madness game.
It’s a role madness game so most certainly mafia can have a way of dealing with Doctor.
So, we're assuming a Factional Kill Modifier is someone who can add flavours to the nightkill? Like, make it strongman, make it janitored, make it untrackable, kind of thing? It's vague to me, but I don't know if we're assuming what it does, or if some players are sure due to experience with the term before. Is it more specific, like "this kill can get through a bulletproof vest, and this one can defeat a doctor?"Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pmYes. nutella.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:51 amExactly!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:48 am I think you’re making too many mechanical assumptions Gavial. hawkataine is in the POE anyway and that may be enough for a vote, but let’s remember this is a role madness game.
It’s a role madness game so most certainly mafia can have a way of dealing with Doctor.
I don’t know what else “factional kill modifier” could mean.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:19 pmSo, we're assuming a Factional Kill Modifier is someone who can add flavours to the nightkill? Like, make it strongman, make it janitored, make it untrackable, kind of thing? It's vague to me, but I don't know if we're assuming what it does, or if some players are sure due to experience with the term before. Is it more specific, like "this kill can get through a bulletproof vest, and this one can defeat a doctor?"Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pmYes. nutella.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:51 amExactly!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:48 am I think you’re making too many mechanical assumptions Gavial. hawkataine is in the POE anyway and that may be enough for a vote, but let’s remember this is a role madness game.
It’s a role madness game so most certainly mafia can have a way of dealing with Doctor.
No prob, I'm done.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:22 pmI don’t know what else “factional kill modifier” could mean.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:19 pmSo, we're assuming a Factional Kill Modifier is someone who can add flavours to the nightkill? Like, make it strongman, make it janitored, make it untrackable, kind of thing? It's vague to me, but I don't know if we're assuming what it does, or if some players are sure due to experience with the term before. Is it more specific, like "this kill can get through a bulletproof vest, and this one can defeat a doctor?"Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:12 pmYes. nutella.Gavial wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:51 amExactly!JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:48 am I think you’re making too many mechanical assumptions Gavial. hawkataine is in the POE anyway and that may be enough for a vote, but let’s remember this is a role madness game.
It’s a role madness game so most certainly mafia can have a way of dealing with Doctor.
I regret engaging with this topic. I’d like to actively avoid all mechanics discussion unless we’re certain it is pertinent. This is not pertinent.
Owner is outed, so no.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:53 amAre you not gonna protest about the openwolfing accusation?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:46 amWhy did you in the first place though?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:40 amYeah I probs just gonna stop arguing with the drunk guy about the openwolf lolSonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 amIf you're a flower vendor, why not say who you visited? Or at least say "no it wasn't Jay"?
She dodged Sean's question, even if it is a fake trap, it's a poor reaction.
Not drunk Seanzie is fully convinced that we should be voting Owner.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:57 am I’m interested to see how Not Drunk Seanzie feels about Owner.
She has teammates if you’re right. Find themSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:34 pmNot drunk Seanzie is fully convinced that we should be voting Owner.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:57 am I’m interested to see how Not Drunk Seanzie feels about Owner.
Drunken me seemed pretty confident about it. Sober me trusts drunken me's instincts, but is significantly less confident about it.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:50 amOh so you know Mac is town?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 amNot claim fruit vendor.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 amWhat would you do if put into the situation she was and she was a strong pro town power role?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:27 amOwner claimed fruit vender. You tell me. And I'm the drunk one....MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:26 amHow exactly is this true? Is it because you tracked her to Jay and there was no kill? Did you consider she might be the doctor? Or the fruit is a vest?
Or am I missing something?![]()
Mac, I get it. Your'e town and all, but I am in god mode right now. Just trust me.
Don't tell me what to do (as I tell everyone what to do).Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:35 pmShe has teammates if you’re right. Find themSeanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:34 pmNot drunk Seanzie is fully convinced that we should be voting Owner.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 10:57 am I’m interested to see how Not Drunk Seanzie feels about Owner.
For some reason I thought today was EoD. Now that I see it is not EoD in like 3 hours, there is less rush. Still a good idea to vote her though.
And since that is the case, we have ~27 hours to look into other suspects and refine our reads on Owner. What are some questions you'd like to have answered in that time?
"what am I going to eat?" is the question I'm currently focused on finding an answer to. I'll eventually come back around to hunting though. I'm just still in victory-lap mode after last night.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:45 pmAnd since that is the case, we have ~27 hours to look into other suspects and refine our reads on Owner. What are some questions you'd like to have answered in that time?
Clarification: The "I didn't" here is in response to both me moving my vote and me "sussing nutella" most of the day.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:41 amI didn’t.lost monkey wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 9:28 amWhen i was lurking at the end of they day, this post irked me a little. If you had that thought why move the vote when most of the day you sussed nutella?
Would you be able to articulate why you are so confident about Owner?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:49 pm Just as a summary, I truly was in the golden zone of drunkeness last night. I know myself, I am an artist-type and I get into that sort of zone sometimes where I have clarity and do some of my best work like that. I know when I am being a dumbass and when I am hot shit, and while I am definitely not going to promise that everything I said last night was completely correct, I was hot shit.
Owner - wolf. 10/10 dentists agree that you should vote her.
Sonny - not outed, but definitely deserves a strong look.
JJJ - not outed, but definitely deserves a strong look.
Mac - probably town.
Dana - probably town, but everyone already knew that.
Unfortunately, those were the only people I majorly interacted with, so I only split the game half open, rather than wide open.
I'd rather not, but I'll bet my life on an Owner scum flip.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:55 pmWould you be able to articulate why you are so confident about Owner?Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 12:49 pm Just as a summary, I truly was in the golden zone of drunkeness last night. I know myself, I am an artist-type and I get into that sort of zone sometimes where I have clarity and do some of my best work like that. I know when I am being a dumbass and when I am hot shit, and while I am definitely not going to promise that everything I said last night was completely correct, I was hot shit.
Owner - wolf. 10/10 dentists agree that you should vote her.
Sonny - not outed, but definitely deserves a strong look.
JJJ - not outed, but definitely deserves a strong look.
Mac - probably town.
Dana - probably town, but everyone already knew that.
Unfortunately, those were the only people I majorly interacted with, so I only split the game half open, rather than wide open.
Some detailed thoughts on Sonny would be cool too.