The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:05 pm**

About time! I thought it was supposed to be at 4EDT!

On a different note, Marmot, yeah obviously having one confirmed town every day is hella townsided. Presumably it offsets the increased ratio of wolf to town.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:08 pm**

Wolves seem pretty methodical, poisoning the seemingly most obvious townies in consecution.

So who do we do? G-Man or ilario? I would like to hear people before we hammer.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:11 pm**

I'm still on G-Man first. But the team might just be G-Man/Ilario like Jimmay said. The more Ilario just isn't here, the more I think I've just been had, which is a big sad, but I guess still romantic in a way.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:11 pm**

I feel pretty safe about just those two names after the consecutive hits .

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:13 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:11 pm I'm still on G-Man first. But the team might just be G-Man/Ilario like Jimmay said. The more Ilario just isn't here, the more I think I've just been had, which is a big sad, but I guess still romantic in a way.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:13 pm**

I think G-Man/Falcon is also definitely a possibility, like my original PoE.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:13 pm**

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:13 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:11 pm I'm still on G-Man first. But the team might just be G-Man/Ilario like Jimmay said. The more Ilario just isn't here, the more I think I've just been had, which is a big sad, but I guess still romantic in a way.

Awwww, thank you <3

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:13 pm**

My heart actually sinks, thinking that Ilario might be mafia here after all

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:15 pm**

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:08 pm Wolves seem pretty methodical, poisoning the seemingly most obvious townies in consecution.

So who do we do? G-Man or ilario? I would like to hear people before we hammer.

I think it doesn't matter, I kill both G-Man and Ilario before even starting discussion on anyone else.

G-Man has literally not been able to produce anything other than "Lime Coke and Falcon are mafia together" evolving to "Falcon is mafia". Which I don't really blame him because if you're mafia in the PoE, you primarily want people to just not want to vote you without giving much away. At least, he is trying to do SOMETHING.

Ilario disappeared with the rest of the mafia team once the PoE was solidified (and presumably correct). It's hard to see any other reason for this disappearance given that they were vibing pretty well with several players in the thread... It just happens that each of those playeres were being more towny than he was, forcing him into the PoE.

Falcon is not worth considering for the moment in my opinion until & unless we hit a townie.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:15 pm**

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:08 pm Wolves seem pretty methodical, poisoning the seemingly most obvious townies in consecution.

So who do we do? G-Man or ilario? I would like to hear people before we hammer.

I think it doesn't matter, I kill both G-Man and Ilario before even starting discussion on anyone else.

G-Man has literally not been able to produce anything other than "Lime Coke and Falcon are mafia together" evolving to "Falcon is mafia". Which I don't really blame him because if you're mafia in the PoE, you primarily want people to just not want to vote you without giving much away. At least, he is trying to do SOMETHING.

Ilario disappeared with the rest of the mafia team once the PoE was solidified (and presumably correct). It's hard to see any other reason for this disappearance given that they were vibing pretty well with several players in the thread... It just happens that each of those playeres were being more towny than he was, forcing him into the PoE.

Falcon is not worth considering for the moment in my opinion until & unless we hit a townie.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:16 pm**

[VOTE: G-Man] aubergine

If Ilario doesn't show up, I'm ok just going for him.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:16 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:13 pm My heart actually sinks, thinking that Ilario might be mafia here after all

To be fair, he spent basically all of day 1 trying to pocket you specifically.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:17 pm**

Speculation, but I was wondering if G-Man didn't fully realise TSP was confirmed town already, and that's why Jimmay was killed before TSP last day. Cause in my mind, TSP was already confirmed town. I guess we'll only see after the game though lol

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:18 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:16 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:13 pm My heart actually sinks, thinking that Ilario might be mafia here after all
To be fair, he spent basically all of day 1 trying to pocket you specifically.

Yes, and he still has. I don't want him to be mafia, but I realise he likely is. I got such a shitty deal with my triad lol. But it's all fine as long as we win in the end

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:19 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:17 pm Speculation, but I was wondering if G-Man didn't fully realise TSP was confirmed town already, and that's why Jimmay was killed before TSP last day. Cause in my mind, TSP was already confirmed town. I guess we'll only see after the game though lol

IDK, I think mafia should have killed JJJ N1 to be honest. I feel like if they didn't give JJJ time to come around to sheeping my PoE, mafia could have won easily.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:20 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:19 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:17 pm Speculation, but I was wondering if G-Man didn't fully realise TSP was confirmed town already, and that's why Jimmay was killed before TSP last day. Cause in my mind, TSP was already confirmed town. I guess we'll only see after the game though lol
IDK, I think mafia should have killed JJJ N1 to be honest. I feel like if they didn't give JJJ time to come around to sheeping my PoE, mafia could have won easily.

Our PoE. All of us. As a team. A TEAM, right Axe?

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:21 pm**

There's still at least one mafia trying though.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:22 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:15 pm
Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:08 pm Wolves seem pretty methodical, poisoning the seemingly most obvious townies in consecution.

So who do we do? G-Man or ilario? I would like to hear people before we hammer.
I think it doesn't matter, I kill both G-Man and Ilario before even starting discussion on anyone else.

G-Man has literally not been able to produce anything other than "Lime Coke and Falcon are mafia together" evolving to "Falcon is mafia". Which I don't really blame him because if you're mafia in the PoE, you primarily want people to just not want to vote you without giving much away. At least, he is trying to do SOMETHING.

Ilario disappeared with the rest of the mafia team once the PoE was solidified (and presumably correct). It's hard to see any other reason for this disappearance given that they were vibing pretty well with several players in the thread... It just happens that each of those playeres were being more towny than he was, forcing him into the PoE.

Falcon is not worth considering for the moment in my opinion until & unless we hit a townie.

I fully agree on that, they are the absolute priority before considering any other names. I did not realise G-Man's case on falcon hinges on LimeCoke. Hilarious if so.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:24 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:03 pm Let's hammer and move on.

This is a bad idea. There are still two baddies left in the game. They would love nothing more than to join a rah-rah rush to judgment and help burn our final mischop. Slow and steady wins the race.

We ISO’d the crap out of SOA after he flipped. We should do the same with Dolby now too. Jay is gone, but that doesn’t mean we can’t pick up the ISO slack. Hammering is easy. Drilling into ISOs takes finesse. Let’s find out who is willing and capable of ISOing the POE. It just might be illuminating.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:27 pm**

Are you willing and capable, G-Man?

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:29 pm**

oh no I'm dying

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:30 pm**

Was looking through Dolby's iso myself right now, and I just think it spews Marmot, Axe and Johanna as town so

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:30 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:29 pm oh no I'm dying

The peril, the drama!

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:30 pm**

Don't worry, we're all dead already.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:32 pm**

Time is an illusion. Once dead/alive, always dead/alive

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:32 pm**

Schrödinger's Multiverse

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:34 pm**

Who you callin vers?

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:34 pm**

Please someone be ghey enough

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:36 pm**

I'm the gayest fuck that ever did not actually fuck.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:36 pm**

Johanna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:36 pm I'm the gayest fuck that ever did not actually fuck.

Bless

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:38 pm**

Oh, before I forget I voted for G-Man

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:38 pm**

Ok, so quick look at Dolby's iso
- Treatment of Axe and annoyance does not look like teammates to me. Rather a reason to push someone ("you're being annoying/cooperative, so I can vote you")
- Read on Johanna looks more like tmi than teammates.
- Treatment of Marmot looks like tmi in the beginning, then trying to shade and talk others into doubting them later.

So I just end up with the same PoE.

I'm not Jimmay and I don't intend to be.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:38 pm**

I also just think that Dolby's pushback on the PoE and then just giving up speaks volumes tbh

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:41 pm**

I will re-read if I feel like I have to, but I don't feel that way at all. I'm going to stick to my guns and not seriously read anything past D1, which I've already done.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:43 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:27 pm Are you willing and capable, G-Man?

That I am, but I will need the full phase.

I sped through Dolby’s and Ilario’s ISO’s today at lunch. I came away feeling like that ISO pairing looks worse than the pairing of SOA and Falcon. I have a 6:30 meeting tonight and I brought a pile of work home today to do afterwards, but I should be able to dig back into Dolby and Ilario’s ISOs later this evening.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:43 pm**

@G-Man assuming you're genuine (which I'm not), you see Falcon and Ilario as being the team right?

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:47 pm**

I'm going to sleep now. I won't have a lot of time tomorrow, but I'll check in with the thread and stuff. If people want Ilario over G-Man, I'm not going to stand in the way of that.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:47 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:47 pm I'm going to sleep now. I won't have a lot of time tomorrow, but I'll check in with the thread and stuff. If people want Ilario over G-Man, I'm not going to stand in the way of that.

I want Ilario

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:51 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:47 pm I'm going to sleep now. I won't have a lot of time tomorrow, but I'll check in with the thread and stuff. If people want Ilario over G-Man, I'm not going to stand in the way of that.
I want Ilario

Actually ok

[VOTE: Ilario] aubergine

But our love will never end.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:02 pm**

Honestly, I think the goal here is just to hit mafia without giving too much away. Everyone should start a full re-evaluation of the game on their own so that in a final three situation, you're not coming into a 1v1 with a bias that is known to mafia.

If we all agree we have to hit at least once between G-Man and Ilario, then we just execute one -> If Town Sleep / If Mafia Axe the other -> If Final 4 sleep.

I think it's pretty straight forward and starting to re-evaluate now probably gives you an increase chance of hitting in F3, also you don't want to give mafia anything to work with on your re-evaluation unless you think ilario / G-Man is a critical mistake.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:30 pm**

Lol you'll never guess who I watched last night.

Stayed tuned Day 6 for the results.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:33 pm**

I don't think we yeet ilario immediately. I think we should at least give him a chance to show up and defend himself (or spew his final partner)

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:35 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:33 pm I don't think we yeet ilario immediately. I think we should at least give him a chance to show up and defend himself (or spew his final partner)

Yeah, he's been impeded from posting the last couple days due to quick hammers, I feel bad as well.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:46 pm**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:47 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:47 pm I'm going to sleep now. I won't have a lot of time tomorrow, but I'll check in with the thread and stuff. If people want Ilario over G-Man, I'm not going to stand in the way of that.
I want Ilario

I want Ilario

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:46 pm**

[VOTE: Ilario] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:51 pm**

Day 1 Votes

Spoiler: show

Day 2 Votes

Spoiler: show

Day 3 Votes

Spoiler: show

Day 4 Votes

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:53 pm**

If G-Man and ilario are the final two mafia, falcon might end up with a perfect voting record.

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:14 pm**

@G-Man when you get a moment, could you talk about your Johanna suspicion?

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:04 pm 'Threading the needle' is still an apt description for Johanna's ISO in my eyes. She has been very steady and consistent, but never aggressive. She reads, thinks, and responds. She seems to have a dry, cheeky sense of humor, which matches the subdued tone of he game-related content. I said before that I would like to see her rock the boat a little, but that doesn't seem to be her M.O. here. Her on-point content suits me better than a few other folks, but she still feels a little too at-the-radar for me to embrace her as a full townread.

I notice that she consistently ends up in or near the bottom of your POE, but this is the only post I've found in your ISO which actually talks about her (with the exception of your full player readlist, but that says the same thing).

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:16 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:53 pm If G-Man and ilario are the final two mafia, falcon might end up with a perfect voting record.

Don't jinx it!

Posted: **Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:20 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 7:16 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:53 pm If G-Man and ilario are the final two mafia, falcon might end up with a perfect voting record.
Don't jinx it!

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