in a game of cs rn but I re-read and I don't like TSP's response to me asking about how Ran and dizzy interactedGira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:21 pm?pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:18 pm[VOTE: Ranmilia] aubergineRanmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:14 pm Yee. o7 Wind
chicken scratch TSP ISO thoughts overnight.
Conclusions: prob exactly 1 in bereft/dizzymade and the other in pyxxy/leetic, pretty heavily leaning pyxxy since not making eod is pretty congruous with no one trying to save TSP.Spoiler: show
Rondo, Gira town, Abi town unless world's best theatre.
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where'd this come from?
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ah I died, one sec
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
Yeah that's not a town response.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:18 pm[VOTE: Ranmilia] aubergineRanmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:14 pm Yee. o7 Wind
chicken scratch TSP ISO thoughts overnight.
Conclusions: prob exactly 1 in bereft/dizzymade and the other in pyxxy/leetic, pretty heavily leaning pyxxy since not making eod is pretty congruous with no one trying to save TSP.Spoiler: show
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bleh somehow I didnt put it in my notes....longer sec
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Re: Severance [Evening One]
And here's where pyxxy decided to out my soft. No, putting it in a spoiler is not the same as keeping it hidden.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 7:16 pmGira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:13 pmso tbh, likepyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:59 pm my legacy is chop leetic
I believed it was town leetic at the start bc the energy was the same
but now the _direction_ is gone
they're sheeping the rondo scumread and sheeping scumreading me in a way that I don't find omgus
I think it's scum letting town do the dirty work
pce
i liked this from pyxxy at the time as it felt like an independent thought
but where did this go today? is there any followthrough? there hasn't been. he's just lazily slipped along onto the dizzy vote, which is probably a misyeet, and showing no signs of investigating elsewhere. doesn't feel like he *actually* scumreads leetic
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sorry, quoted
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:04 pmI meant theatrical in like a manner of “displayed”, I called it genuine☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:15 pmWhat makes it theatrical and not just real annoyance at being treated this way in every gameTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:59 pmDizzy came into the thread with a naked suspicion on Ran, some wolfmilla comments, Ran seemed 1) genuinely offended (in a theatrical way) and 2) pushed back, to the point where Dizzy could easily have been a viable wagon if Mac hadn’t gotten the Robyn chop (but Mac also kinda wanted the Dizzy chop)pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:57 pmif you don't mind helping me thinkTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:55 pm Mmm no the cdistance between Ran and Dizzy felt pretty genuine. And like they’re both good enough to plan that so O wouldn’t rule it out but I wouldn’t say it’s in a way where they’d have massive equity from that or from gamestate reasons
what or why do you feel like dizzy and ran are distanced?
I don't like speculating that emotion is being called tbh
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Looking back, TSP seems to kind of have a paranoia over me that seems unwarranted given we last played together in like 2020? This attitude would definitely make more sense if TSP is paired with someone like pyxxy (or Abby, for that matter)Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:14 pm Yee. o7 Wind
chicken scratch TSP ISO thoughts overnight.
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Re: Severance [Evening Two]
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 pmTSP move there is WIFOM from the wolf perspective, imo, but that's just my opinionleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:52 pm I guess if all three wolves are on robyn, Dyslexicon/TSP/tedxtr would make enough sense and they did it to save the latter? But then again, in that world TSP would have had no reason to go on robyn as tedxtr was pretty much safe at that point, so that world would more likely contain a deepwolf.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 pmno that part I have experience with
more complete exchangeTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:55 pm Mmm no the cdistance between Ran and Dizzy felt pretty genuine. And like they’re both good enough to plan that so O wouldn’t rule it out but I wouldn’t say it’s in a way where they’d have massive equity from that or from gamestate reasons
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I think it's quite interesting
that leetic spent an entire day yesterday not being able to push someone
but now they can push me from the dot
that leetic spent an entire day yesterday not being able to push someone
but now they can push me from the dot
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and just like that, leetic is gone?
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D1 VC:
leetic: pyxxy
robyn: leetic, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, MacDougall, Gira, TonyStarkPrime, WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr: RondoDimBuckle, Princess Abigail
No vote: robyn, Bereft
D2 VC:
RondoDimBuckle: TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon: pyxxy
pyxxy: tedxtr, Princess Abigail
TonyStarkPrime: Bereft, RondoDimBuckle, Gira, WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia
(Not voting): Dyslexicon
The votecounts, colored in with flips and PR claims in blue
leetic: pyxxy
robyn: leetic, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, MacDougall, Gira, TonyStarkPrime, WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr: RondoDimBuckle, Princess Abigail
No vote: robyn, Bereft
D2 VC:
RondoDimBuckle: TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon: pyxxy
pyxxy: tedxtr, Princess Abigail
TonyStarkPrime: Bereft, RondoDimBuckle, Gira, WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia
(Not voting): Dyslexicon
The votecounts, colored in with flips and PR claims in blue
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
ah okay
ty for VC colors
ty for VC colors
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
Are you really desperate enough to push someone with a softed PR?
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Yeah, that "case" was so spooky. It's not like I was working on something else or anything.
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you do realize that you have no PR proof, right
and that you softed the very first post of D2 after I came for your neck D1
real hedgy stuff, bud
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
and also
my solve is flexible between you and dizzy
you've had really towny moments, but softing, and that obviously, is like
the antithesis of how you treat other people and how they play with mech, based on playing two games with you
_antithesis_
my solve is flexible between you and dizzy
you've had really towny moments, but softing, and that obviously, is like
the antithesis of how you treat other people and how they play with mech, based on playing two games with you
_antithesis_
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"why are you voting ranmilia then"
well, ran fits my solve best, and I knew that coming into today, and I would be sad to turn down a thunderdome when offered one so politely
well, ran fits my solve best, and I knew that coming into today, and I would be sad to turn down a thunderdome when offered one so politely
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I read all of D2 after EOD when I had time so I'm fully powered up here
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
Anyway, the TSP wagon looks kinda pure? I mean, Bereft was on it pretty early, and Rondo could've easily supported the Dyslexicon wagon over the TSP one at EoD, so they're probably only worth looking at if Dyslexicon (or whoever their sub is) flips red. Ranmilia joined a bit late, but eh. I don't think Gira is a wolf at all.
Dyslexicon still looks wolfy from the votecounts, and if pyxxy has a bus vote I can see the two being w/w. Abby I guess is at least a little less likely to be w/w with pyxxy.
Dyslexicon still looks wolfy from the votecounts, and if pyxxy has a bus vote I can see the two being w/w. Abby I guess is at least a little less likely to be w/w with pyxxy.
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"anyway"
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
Well, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit
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why does any of this point to ran being mafia?pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:32 pmpyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 pmTSP move there is WIFOM from the wolf perspective, imo, but that's just my opinionleetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:52 pm I guess if all three wolves are on robyn, Dyslexicon/TSP/tedxtr would make enough sense and they did it to save the latter? But then again, in that world TSP would have had no reason to go on robyn as tedxtr was pretty much safe at that point, so that world would more likely contain a deepwolf.pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 pmno that part I have experience withmore complete exchangeTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:55 pm Mmm no the cdistance between Ran and Dizzy felt pretty genuine. And like they’re both good enough to plan that so O wouldn’t rule it out but I wouldn’t say it’s in a way where they’d have massive equity from that or from gamestate reasons
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bereft already softclaimed VT in thread lolleetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pmWell, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit
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They joined last minute, same as with me funnily enough
Are you actually gonna do anything useful here?
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
When?Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:51 pmbereft already softclaimed VT in thread lolleetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pmWell, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit
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Re: Severance [Evening Two]
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:49 amTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:27 am Could it be that Mac was killed because he was wrong, not because he was right?[VOTE: TSP] aubergineTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:36 am well now I’m sitting on Gira / ran / X yeah
Abby is just in the archetype of people I like to suspect [is the reality of it]
Just look at this. There is no universe town TSP comes in to this day and believes and says these things.
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:36 am Maybe not his scumreads, but he did make a serious push to protect and get people off of Bereft (and/or dizzy), and it was working, even before any of the robyn stuff happened. Here's the post again for reference:
The two people he's pushing are the voters on Bereft, which he even lampshades directly and calls them towny(?!). The other wagon atp is dizzy with me and mac voting there iirc, and he blows that off as well.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:05 pm Here’s the situation: not all is right. We’re about to limp into the stupidest looking bereft chop I’ve ever seen. It’s probably rand and there are somewhat good reasons not to do that. So then, who’s in this game who should know better? I promise I didn’t just immediately jump to the two voters on Bereft for the record, I think that looks slightly towny. Leetic seems to have lost a bit of the edge, can’t tell why. WWA is posting a lot but has no thread control nor have they attempted to wrest it. I won’t vote for Mac or dizzy day 1. Ted seems alright. Mac’s defending Gira. I won’t vote Rondo D1 for opposite reasons. Ran and Robyn are self resolving.
The more I look here the more I am seeing tsp/bereft/dizzy. Which is very premature but. There's hella agenda.
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:32 amNot to answer for wind in specific, but it is the weekend and our long day 1 was pretty exhausting. Would be nice if folks were around more though but... I've said my piece and don't have much new, the ball is in Dizzy's and Bereft's and Rondo's respective courts. I've cooled on TSP some but still can't really understand his mindset... but now that he's channeling illario it's probably impractical to kill him today regardless.
[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine
^but when the time pressure is actually on....
This progression, no personal offense to Ranmilia, smells.
It's bus all day but if we can squeeze another chop out of TSP, then wolves will be much better off, because wolves misplayed revealing the Ilario connection.
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
I'm not aware of this.Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:51 pmbereft already softclaimed VT in thread lolleetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pmWell, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit
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@/Gira made the Ran post
sorry for that section that didn't make sense but in my head it's the solve and it all feels connected :/
sorry for that section that didn't make sense but in my head it's the solve and it all feels connected :/
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Also funny how pyxxy TRed me for my PR soft D2 but now that he's in a desperate situation he has to pretend it's fake
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Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:54 pmI'm not aware of this.Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:51 pmbereft already softclaimed VT in thread lolleetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pmWell, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
So can you confirm that you indeed did not visit anyone N1?Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:54 pmI'm not aware of this.Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:51 pmbereft already softclaimed VT in thread lolleetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pmWell, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much credit
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
That was after my soft anyway, so yeah.Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:56 pmBereft wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:54 pmI'm not aware of this.Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:51 pmbereft already softclaimed VT in thread lolleetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:50 pmWell, @Bereft should be able to confirm that they didn't visit anyone D1 (though sorry if you wanted to pretend to be a PR I guess). Plus, I softed D1 as well but you didn't seem to catch that. And why would I be so specific about a soft if it wasn't real? Also, "came for your neck" is giving yourself too much creditgranted that kind of thing can be bluffed ofc but saying something like that is a pretty big VT indicator (and also towny usually)Spoiler: show
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Re: Severance [Evening Two]
No offense taken, I suppose you have to here, but this directly contradicts both reality and the solve you're pushing. Sorry things have gone this way.pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:53 pmRanmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:49 amTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:27 am Could it be that Mac was killed because he was wrong, not because he was right?[VOTE: TSP] aubergineTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:36 am well now I’m sitting on Gira / ran / X yeah
Abby is just in the archetype of people I like to suspect [is the reality of it]
Just look at this. There is no universe town TSP comes in to this day and believes and says these things.Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:36 am Maybe not his scumreads, but he did make a serious push to protect and get people off of Bereft (and/or dizzy), and it was working, even before any of the robyn stuff happened. Here's the post again for reference:
The two people he's pushing are the voters on Bereft, which he even lampshades directly and calls them towny(?!). The other wagon atp is dizzy with me and mac voting there iirc, and he blows that off as well.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:05 pm Here’s the situation: not all is right. We’re about to limp into the stupidest looking bereft chop I’ve ever seen. It’s probably rand and there are somewhat good reasons not to do that. So then, who’s in this game who should know better? I promise I didn’t just immediately jump to the two voters on Bereft for the record, I think that looks slightly towny. Leetic seems to have lost a bit of the edge, can’t tell why. WWA is posting a lot but has no thread control nor have they attempted to wrest it. I won’t vote for Mac or dizzy day 1. Ted seems alright. Mac’s defending Gira. I won’t vote Rondo D1 for opposite reasons. Ran and Robyn are self resolving.
The more I look here the more I am seeing tsp/bereft/dizzy. Which is very premature but. There's hella agenda.Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:32 amNot to answer for wind in specific, but it is the weekend and our long day 1 was pretty exhausting. Would be nice if folks were around more though but... I've said my piece and don't have much new, the ball is in Dizzy's and Bereft's and Rondo's respective courts. I've cooled on TSP some but still can't really understand his mindset... but now that he's channeling illario it's probably impractical to kill him today regardless.
[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine
^but when the time pressure is actually on....
This progression, no personal offense to Ranmilia, smells.
It's bus all day but if we can squeeze another chop out of TSP, then wolves will be much better off, because wolves misplayed revealing the Ilario connection.
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I'm reading the room rn and you both look [...]
I'll think about this seriously later, I'm still on a mental vacation from the game.
I'll think about this seriously later, I'm still on a mental vacation from the game.
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Although Bereft not visiting someone N1 doesn't have to mean they're VT. They could have a passive modifier like Bulletproof, or they could just be an X-shot role that decided not to use their shots N1 for whatever reason.
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
We have 2 PRs flipped and 2 VTs flipped, alongside two other claimed PRs. The exact ratio of PR/V is unclear, still it's probably unlikely we are dealing with Heist levels of PR stinginess.
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
wait
leetic, why didnt you track me?
leetic, why didnt you track me?
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
I explained my motivations for tracking tedxtr in a previous post today
As for Bereft, since they were just RPing I thought I would get some straight information out of the slot
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
alright I'll go back and check that
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
Although wait, since TSP was a Bus Driver I can't 100% discount the possibility he targeted Bereft, even if Bereft was an unlikely target
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
dunno wouldn't be shocked if it's a relatively low # of town PRs given the severed mechanic is probably also part of the calculation
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Re: Severance [Evening Two]
Wait
Yeah, I can confirm TSP didn't target BereftJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:03 pm If a player impacted by this ability receives a role result with a player name, they will receive the name of their true target, not of their intended target
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Re: Severance [Evening Three]
what did you mean by guaranteedleetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:22 pm I tried to track tedxtr since 1. that was the only track that would be guaranteed to give me information (or so I thought) and 2. given some of WW's EoD posting I thought it would be helpful to resolve the slot, especially as tedxtr doesn't have much going for them besides their claim. Oh well