PSY 2310 - Cognitive Psychology [END]

[nutella]

i do agree visor's posts today are squint worthy

those last two in there especially hrm

[bronana]

visor's posts seem fine to me

he is obviously going to display the same perspective in the thread of not being the wolf RB regardless of his alignment, I don't understand how that means anything

[staypositivefriend]

a minor concern i have regarding outed wolf is how quickly he has latched onto specific narratives/worldviews

i recall that in rocks fall, (sorry for meta - this read still applies even if you don't know the game i'm talking about) it was rare for visor to have a definitive "solve" or a definitive answer about who the wolves were - he mostly just played in the moment and adjusted his reads as the game went on

in this game, i've felt that his reads are both more fleshed out and more static - he attached himself to a specific narrative throughout d1/d2 (ie: "amy is a wolf, dyachei is a wolf, alison could be a wolf") and it's hard for me to ignore the fact that he played a fairly large role in concentrating pressure against amy while also taking a passive approach to alison (ie: letting her get buried without directly getting his hands dirty)

his approach, in general, has had a higher level of internal confidence/swagger than the village games i've seen from him in the past, and it reminds me of my own overly confident/cocky attitude when i'm wolfing. i don't actually scumread outed wolf at the moment, but ftr, i understand the concerns

[staypositivefriend]

like, if we live in a bizzaro world where vulgard is a villager, then it's incredibly important that we establish right now if marluxion simply distrusts vulgard, or if he's outright claiming that vulgard is lying about how things went down. i want to hear marl explain the dynamic between vulgard and himself with as much detail as he possibly can, because it will become extremely relevant to future discussion in a worst case scenario world where vulgard is a villager

Should I feel insulted?

no. there's still a part of me that wants to believe you're a villager even though i feel that occam's razor should point plainly to you being a wolf

[Syn]

from kza's enormous ISO I have determined that all signs point to vulgard

[Syn]

this is definitely not me sheeping the top wagon

[outed wolf]

That SPF read is kinda fair lol

I've been taking this game a bit less seriously (and I really did think Amy/dya were wolves) (still lthink dya is a wolf)

I will admit I am extremely worried about the world where vulgard is a villa even though he's not making it look like that's happening rn

[outed wolf]

Dizzys confidence on the marl world makes me want to not dismiss that either

But it prob is also the visor world

Like visor/marl/dya works imo

hopefully it's just vulgard instead

Stop drinking the Kool aid pal

How on earth does this work

Why would I bus all my bros????????

[Arete]

from kza's enormous ISO I have determined that all signs point to vulgard

when you say this do you mean 'KZA's ISO, and also other reasons which you chose not to mention and are summarizing as "kza's enormous ISO",' or do you mean 'actually literally just KZA's ISO'

[outed wolf]

The posts. The posts for Kza, the posts chosen especially to kill Kza, Kza's posts.

[Syn]

from kza's enormous ISO I have determined that all signs point to vulgard

when you say this do you mean 'KZA's ISO, and also other reasons which you chose not to mention and are summarizing as "kza's enormous ISO",' or do you mean 'actually literally just KZA's ISO'

i don't understand the question

my read is based off of kza's ISO

I don't have any plans to do significant back-reading of non-flipped-red slots

so my opinion is based solely off of

well

exactly what i said

[Syn]

visor is being funny which is >rand mafia

[Arete]

nod

c4, dya and KZA are in the "no impressions made" club and I would like them to play the game. I do not townread c4 for a carefully voiced scumread (?) on SPF. That's in any average wolf's wolfrange and I think SPF is too quick to clear them regardless of alignment.

dya and KZA just haven't talked about the game much yet. Dya got offended based on a single accusation if I read that correctly, and KZA 5-posted and dipped.

I could say similar things about KZA, for that matter. Except KZA's ISO is even worse. Not only does it have fewer posts, but its only attempt at engagement is a thin townread on SPF. Also, bows out of reading Gavial instead of even trying. Terrible look so far. The point about "looking out of touch with the thread" also applies here. Dizzy just above me is open about the fact they won't engage with the game (not sure how to read that at the moment). KZA here is low-efforting and being quiet about it.

Stupid read, but KZA and Dizzy aren't W/W based on that. I doubt they would both do this as wolves, and in such a different manner, too. If they wanted to meme and become the slankwolf collective, they'd either both do it like Dizzy or both like KZA. I understand if people consider this read stupid, though.

sorry to bring up old stuff, I've been working a lot and not really posting

wanna walk me through this 0-100? I don't really see how you made this progression when I had 0 posts between those 2

the reason I ask is that this is literally the only mention of or interaction with Vul in his Iso and while it's definitely not out of the range of W/W your read felt weirdly confident given the evidence it was theoretically based off of, which made me think you might be getting information from scumchat


(uh for reference if you aren't getting info from scumchat, the reason Vul is the top wagon is that Sunbae, the jailkeeper, says that she jailkept him with no nightkills -- Amy had claimed Tracker on D2 and wasn't roleblocked, which is plausibly indicative that wolves were yoloing a kill attempt on her)

[bronana]

a minor concern i have regarding outed wolf is how quickly he has latched onto specific narratives/worldviews

i recall that in rocks fall, (sorry for meta - this read still applies even if you don't know the game i'm talking about) it was rare for visor to have a definitive "solve" or a definitive answer about who the wolves were - he mostly just played in the moment and adjusted his reads as the game went on

in this game, i've felt that his reads are both more fleshed out and more static - he attached himself to a specific narrative throughout d1/d2 (ie: "amy is a wolf, dyachei is a wolf, alison could be a wolf") and it's hard for me to ignore the fact that he played a fairly large role in concentrating pressure against amy while also taking a passive approach to alison (ie: letting her get buried without directly getting his hands dirty)

his approach, in general, has had a higher level of internal confidence/swagger than the village games i've seen from him in the past, and it reminds me of my own overly confident/cocky attitude when i'm wolfing. i don't actually scumread outed wolf at the moment, but ftr, i understand the concerns

i could see it, he's a good wolf and I am hardly an expert on his wolfgame given how surprisingly infrequent my experience with it has been, so i could be wrong in thinking he's a villager

that said, his play would hardly be that unusual for him as town and this is around the time in mafia games where people unfamiliar with town!visor start to turn on him and make me worry i've misread him. plus vulgard is likely a wolf and visor is almost never with him

what do you think makes sense for a visor team? I have my own thoughts on that front but don't want to lead the witness. (if you think I am likely teamed with him, feel free to say so but I'd appreciate if you also included possibilities without me)

[dyachei]

[Arete]

are you lolcatting or is the cat picture just for no reason

[bronana]

- Role blocked/jailed players are not counted as having targeted anyone. A tracker who targets a role blocked player who attempted to perform an action will receive a result indicating that their target targeted nobody.

isn't that the result amy claimed on dizzy - didn't target anyone? we sure amy wasn't roleblocked?

hello

dizzy visited nobody

maybe vulgard's weird reaction is because he's a wolf but not the roleblocker and knows we are off on that point (e.g. why he so easily cleared marl and was slow to really suspect visor when one or both should ~always have been wolves from his POV)

[dyachei]

are you lolcatting or is the cat picture just for no reason

I like cat pics

[outed wolf]

dya with the cats

positive signs villabros

[bronana]

- Role blocked/jailed players are not counted as having targeted anyone. A tracker who targets a role blocked player who attempted to perform an action will receive a result indicating that their target targeted nobody.

isn't that the result amy claimed on dizzy - didn't target anyone? we sure amy wasn't roleblocked?

hello

dizzy visited nobody

maybe vulgard's weird reaction is because he's a wolf but not the roleblocker and knows we are off on that point (e.g. why he so easily cleared marl and was slow to really suspect visor when one or both should ~always have been wolves from his POV)

@sunbae @Amy

[dyachei]

dya with the cats

positive signs villabros

nah, just bored

[Arete]

- Role blocked/jailed players are not counted as having targeted anyone. A tracker who targets a role blocked player who attempted to perform an action will receive a result indicating that their target targeted nobody.

isn't that the result amy claimed on dizzy - didn't target anyone? we sure amy wasn't roleblocked?

I think what that's saying is that if a tracker targets a player who gets roleblocked, the player who gets roleblocked will seem to visit no one even if they tried to perform a night action

e.g. if Hally is the vig and Amy is the tracker and JJJ is the roleblocker, and JJJ roleblocks Hally while Hally shoots KZA, then Hally would appear to visit no one

[bronana]

Oh. I'm dumb lmao. Ignore me.

[Arete]

dya with the cats

positive signs villabros

nah, just bored

okay so like I don't want to be like 'Dya cat pics? dya wolf?' but why is your response to being bored to do the universally-acknowledged sign of being a given up wolf

or is your claim to not be lolcatting sarcasm

[dyachei]

dya with the cats

positive signs villabros

nah, just bored

okay so like I don't want to be like 'Dya cat pics? dya wolf?' but why is your response to being bored to do the universally-acknowledged sign of being a given up wolf

or is your claim to not be lolcatting sarcasm

i post cats as all alignments...i have a thing for cats...

[Arete]

[VOTE: Dyachei] aubergine

[dyachei]

[VOTE: Dyachei] aubergine

[dyachei]

seriously though, i do it as all alignments

[bronana]

[Arete]

(someone please tell me if I'm misreading this and Dya secretly loves posting cat pictures as town but this feels like it has a lot of Arete-lolcatting-in-FoL-28 energy)

I guess Vul is the only one who actually knows what that means but

yeah

[dyachei]

zack gets it!

[dyachei]

(someone please tell me if I'm misreading this and Dya secretly loves posting cat pictures as town but this feels like it has a lot of Arete-lolcatting-in-FoL-28 energy)

I guess Vul is the only one who actually knows what that means but

yeah

I love posting cat pics...following cat is of you

[nutella]

visor is being funny which is >rand mafia

LMAO

[Syn]

the reason I ask is that this is literally the only mention of or interaction with Vul in his Iso and while it's definitely not out of the range of W/W your read felt weirdly confident given the evidence it was theoretically based off of, which made me think you might be getting information from scumchat


(uh for reference if you aren't getting info from scumchat, the reason Vul is the top wagon is that Sunbae, the jailkeeper, says that she jailkept him with no nightkills -- Amy had claimed Tracker on D2 and wasn't roleblocked, which is plausibly indicative that wolves were yoloing a kill attempt on her)

aww my read isn't even clever then

[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

[dyachei]

the reason I ask is that this is literally the only mention of or interaction with Vul in his Iso and while it's definitely not out of the range of W/W your read felt weirdly confident given the evidence it was theoretically based off of, which made me think you might be getting information from scumchat


(uh for reference if you aren't getting info from scumchat, the reason Vul is the top wagon is that Sunbae, the jailkeeper, says that she jailkept him with no nightkills -- Amy had claimed Tracker on D2 and wasn't roleblocked, which is plausibly indicative that wolves were yoloing a kill attempt on her)

aww my read isn't even clever then

[VOTE: Vulgard] aubergine

[Arete]

Dya choosing now to lolcat makes me vaguely scared that they're trying to save wolf!Vulgard but I really really don't want to believe that's true

[dyachei]

Dya choosing now to lolcat makes me vaguely scared that they're trying to save wolf!Vulgard but I really really don't want to believe that's true

im not lolcatting though

[staypositivefriend]

dyachei please keep posting cats regardless of ur alignment, they brighten my day

[Arete]

Dya choosing now to lolcat makes me vaguely scared that they're trying to save wolf!Vulgard but I really really don't want to believe that's true

im not lolcatting though

okay

do you have, like, new reads, or anything else that might indicate that you are in fact a villager, and not a wolf who is giving up

who do you want to kill today

[Syn]

why would dya be giving up even if vulgard is a wolf and they're partners

[dyachei]

dyachei please keep posting cats regardless of ur alignment, they brighten my day

[dyachei]

Dya choosing now to lolcat makes me vaguely scared that they're trying to save wolf!Vulgard but I really really don't want to believe that's true

im not lolcatting though

okay

do you have, like, new reads, or anything else that might indicate that you are in fact a villager, and not a wolf who is giving up

who do you want to kill today

I'm voting vulgard

I think syn looks bad, i think c4 looks bad

[Arete]

why would dya be giving up even if vulgard is a wolf and they're partners

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I was trying to figure out earlier if they were posting cat pictures as a brief break or something or if they were actually just a given up wolf but the fact that they've kept doing it makes me think the latter

[dyachei]

my reads haven't changed but no one seems to care what i think anymore, so i'm gonna do something that makes me happy

[dyachei]

[Arete]

it's boxed in

[dyachei]

it's boxed in

it's having fun

[Syn]

Dya choosing now to lolcat makes me vaguely scared that they're trying to save wolf!Vulgard but I really really don't want to believe that's true

im not lolcatting though

okay

do you have, like, new reads, or anything else that might indicate that you are in fact a villager, and not a wolf who is giving up

who do you want to kill today

I'm voting vulgard

I think syn looks bad, i think c4 looks bad

i think i look great

[Syn]

also lol if you are a wolf and you said that for distancing WIFOM because Arete asked if I was being coached in scum chat

[bronana]

bring back disapproving ross