Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

You called me lazy and low effort, you insulted me and the way I play. Now I’m gonna OMGUS you until one of us is dead

[TonyStarkPrime]

Long Con at L-2 two hours into the day like this is philo mafia

There’s no hammer

that's how it was in the philo mafia of our hearts

[Hally]

didn’t mac say wilgy is a very good scum player and wouldn’t slank so much as scum? because this is hard core slanking

Then there’s this later which ended up keeping Wilgy from being the cw

I'm more interesting in understanding why Mac's opinion about Wilgy is relevant here to anyone.

You all know that

1) Mac isn't in this and
2) Mac says utter bullshit to advance whatever Mac (sober or otherwise) wishes to advance

Right?

Well the view I’m positing that you don’t like is that Hally brought it up to steer the lynch away from Wilgy

Hell, I'm trying to get people to pick people other than Wilgy. It's boring and keeps mafia safe. If you are mafia, and Wilgy is on your team, you don't give a shit what happens to him because he isn't here. Oh well. If you are a civilian, then you should be trying to pin everybody else down. None of this "The game is on autopilot" bullshit (looking at you birthday boy ted).

If I'm Wilgy's teammate, I don't defend him. He either wins for us or he self-destructs. Hally isn't mafia.

Steering away from Wilgy onto the only person with less posts I don't think exactly counts as that but I'll grant that Hally didn't really push TH if I recall correctly.

i also really didn’t steer away from wilgy. it was one post. i steered away from YOU not wilgy. which, if you know yourself to be town, should make me town from your pov because i literally never pass up the chance to kill you D1 if im mafia and you can bet on that

[Michelle]

112
1
8%
Voters: None

Why has 112 a vote on him without a name attached?

[Long Con]

Long Con
5
50%


Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Arete, Ash Lael, 112, Hally

Who is mafia here?

Nanook, 112.

What's your take on those two?

I thought I just did a post of takes.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

This post was made when it looked like Wilgy was the likely counterwagon.

what about that post indicates im teamed with wilgy? i kinda struggle to believe this is a genuine take

Do you agree that without this post Wilgy dies

absolutely not. wilgy had like three votes. you had like five or six. i don’t think my one post raising doubt that wilgy was scum saved him from what otherwise would have been his inevitable death. that’s pretty silly

Okay, rather what the post is emblematic of. You didn’t get behind chopping Wilgy and did get behind chopping Trip. It’s something worth noting.

this is a mischaracterization. from my perspective when i checked in at eod you were going to be the elimination. you had five or six votes and i thought you were going over. i wasn’t on board with killing you D1. i think i was one of three votes on wilgy at the time and 112 also had three votes. i didn’t want to kill 112 either. then i unvoted wilgy, who as far as i could tell wasn’t dying even with my vote because people seemed intent on killing you and nobody was moving to wilgy. then i voted sleep as a placeholder just to be like “i dont like 112 or tony as options.” then i switched to trip and was maybe the second or third vote there. and that was really just a placeholder and i did not think trip would gain traction over you and go over. but apparently since everyone just blindly sheeps me this game trip ended up with six votes, which i was fine with because i thought it was better than killing you

this is what EoD looked like from my pov. i didn’t think wilgy was a real option. i didn’t even think trip was. i just wanted to vote someone who wasn’t you. but this narrative that i was gunning for trip and was hard against wilgy is not accurate. what i was against really was killing you or 112

Noted. Uh, the lack of voting logs makes this hard. All games should be played on MU.

MU meh, 451 GOAT

[Michelle]

Votes in this moment

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112
1
8%
Voters: Epignosis
Arete
0
No votes
Voters: None
Ash Lael
1
8%
Voters: Michelle
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis (dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hally
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
5
42%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Arete, Ash Lael, 112, Hally
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
Poison Chan
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Vulgard
0
No votes

[Epignosis]

112
1
8%
Voters: None

Why has 112 a vote on him without a name attached?

I voted there, but I do not know why it's showing no name on your end. Maybe refresh.

[Long Con]

Morning
Rip tutuu, now she will focus on math better i think wolves wanted to help her studying

Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)

Spotting malice here we really touched Radishes as what if is Joat in day 1 if you read the chat but it was hard to observe this during the game, so it was dropped and in N1 Roro was considered obvious Joat and killed because of this.

What benefit for this game has your post? You feel the need to dumb clear Hally for what you said instead observing her effort during the game?
You probably want to show you constantly reevaluate reads but this is forced.

Looks performative, so

[VOTE: Ash] aubergine

This is an example of a post by Michelle that I find towny. I like the thoughts on angles that I hadn't considered.

[Long Con]

You called me lazy and low effort, you insulted me and the way I play. Now I’m gonna OMGUS you until one of us is dead

Wait, was I supposed to respond to your earlier post about insulting? Did I miss a cue? Sorry, I'm also crocheting over here.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Long Con at L-2 two hours into the day like this is philo mafia

There’s no hammer

that's how it was in the philo mafia of our hearts

I love hammers tbh

[Hally]

if im mafia at EoD1 i subtly angle towards killing tony without ever fully supporting it so that i get him killed but when he flips town the people who push him look bad not me. i don’t push back on his wagon

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

You called me lazy and low effort, you insulted me and the way I play. Now I’m gonna OMGUS you until one of us is dead

Wait, was I supposed to respond to your earlier post about insulting? Did I miss a cue? Sorry, I'm also crocheting over here.

I don’t really give a fuck

[Hally]

unvoting lc. don’t feel it anymore. someone else do something

[Michelle]

112
1
8%
Voters: None

Why has 112 a vote on him without a name attached?

I voted there, but I do not know why it's showing no name on your end. Maybe refresh.

Tnx, i will next time

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112
1
8%
Voters: Epignosis
Arete
0
No votes
Voters: None
Ash Lael
1
8%
Voters: Michelle
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis (dunya)
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hally
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
5
42%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Arete, Ash Lael, 112, Hally
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
Poison Chan
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Vulgard
0
No votes
Voters: None
No Elimination
1
8%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime

I made again the VC with Epi's vote visible

[Ash Lael]

if im mafia at EoD1 i subtly angle towards killing tony without ever fully supporting it so that i get him killed but when he flips town the people who push him look bad not me. i don’t push back on his wagon

Exactly this. Wolf Hally lets me eat the blame for Town Tony getting lynched.

[TonyStarkPrime]

if im mafia at EoD1 i subtly angle towards killing tony without ever fully supporting it so that i get him killed but when he flips town the people who push him look bad not me. i don’t push back on his wagon

yeah probably

[Epignosis]

Morning
Rip tutuu, now she will focus on math better i think wolves wanted to help her studying

Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)

Spotting malice here we really touched Radishes as what if is Joat in day 1 if you read the chat but it was hard to observe this during the game, so it was dropped and in N1 Roro was considered obvious Joat and killed because of this.

What benefit for this game has your post? You feel the need to dumb clear Hally for what you said instead observing her effort during the game?
You probably want to show you constantly reevaluate reads but this is forced.

Looks performative, so

[VOTE: Ash] aubergine

This is an example of a post by Michelle that I find towny. I like the thoughts on angles that I hadn't considered.

Michelle also called dunya (me) "performative."

[Long Con]

You called me lazy and low effort, you insulted me and the way I play. Now I’m gonna OMGUS you until one of us is dead

Wait, was I supposed to respond to your earlier post about insulting? Did I miss a cue? Sorry, I'm also crocheting over here.

I don’t really give a fuck

No, I mean, you sounded like you were responding to a post I made where I said "What are you talking about, how did I insult you??"... but I never made that post. Did you want to talk about it some more?

[Long Con]

Morning
Rip tutuu, now she will focus on math better i think wolves wanted to help her studying

Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)

Spotting malice here we really touched Radishes as what if is Joat in day 1 if you read the chat but it was hard to observe this during the game, so it was dropped and in N1 Roro was considered obvious Joat and killed because of this.

What benefit for this game has your post? You feel the need to dumb clear Hally for what you said instead observing her effort during the game?
You probably want to show you constantly reevaluate reads but this is forced.

Looks performative, so

[VOTE: Ash] aubergine

This is an example of a post by Michelle that I find towny. I like the thoughts on angles that I hadn't considered.

Michelle also called dunya (me) "performative."

Did she?

[Long Con]

if im mafia at EoD1 i subtly angle towards killing tony without ever fully supporting it so that i get him killed but when he flips town the people who push him look bad not me. i don’t push back on his wagon

All I had to do was follow instructions.

[Long Con]

Excuse me, somehow quoted the wrong post there. Here's what I meant:

unvoting lc. don’t feel it anymore. someone else do something

All I had to do was follow instructions.

[Epignosis]

Morning
Rip tutuu, now she will focus on math better i think wolves wanted to help her studying

Super dumb read, Hally is town because if she couldn't spot Radishes as joat she definitely wouldn't spot tutuu as doc.

(yes I know wolves have partners)

Spotting malice here we really touched Radishes as what if is Joat in day 1 if you read the chat but it was hard to observe this during the game, so it was dropped and in N1 Roro was considered obvious Joat and killed because of this.

What benefit for this game has your post? You feel the need to dumb clear Hally for what you said instead observing her effort during the game?
You probably want to show you constantly reevaluate reads but this is forced.

Looks performative, so

[VOTE: Ash] aubergine

This is an example of a post by Michelle that I find towny. I like the thoughts on angles that I hadn't considered.

Michelle also called dunya (me) "performative."

Did she?

She did not.

That was in reference to Hally, during which in the same breath Michelle voted dunya.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

You called me lazy and low effort, you insulted me and the way I play. Now I’m gonna OMGUS you until one of us is dead

Wait, was I supposed to respond to your earlier post about insulting? Did I miss a cue? Sorry, I'm also crocheting over here.

I don’t really give a fuck

No, I mean, you sounded like you were responding to a post I made where I said "What are you talking about, how did I insult you??"... but I never made that post. Did you want to talk about it some more?

Fuck off

[Epignosis]

search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sr=posts&t=19 ... only&ch=-1

[Long Con]

Ok, I'll come back later.

[Epignosis]

That last post is Michelle's everything and not the individual post.

I'm taking that as a sign to go to bed.

[Epignosis]

Maybe others need to go to bed too.

[Hally]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

[Epignosis]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

Consider yourself as having a +1 vote power. I will vote wherever you do unless I vehemently disagree.

[Hally]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

Consider yourself as having a +1 vote power. I will vote wherever you do unless I vehemently disagree.

i feel like i have like +5 voting power because apparently everyone just votes where i vote

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

I don’t think this is a thing

[Hally]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

I don’t think this is a thing

probably not

[Hally]

epi is town

[Epignosis]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

Consider yourself as having a +1 vote power. I will vote wherever you do unless I vehemently disagree.

i feel like i have like +5 voting power because apparently everyone just votes where i vote

Then vote somewhere else.

[Epignosis]

See you cats tomorrow.

[Ash Lael]

Nook, I probably didn't give your tony read enough consideration earlier because I thought you guys might just be teamed.

Can you articulate why you're so sure he's good, or is it another one of those inscrutable gut things?

[Hally]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

may as well get this over with

[Hally]

why is this game so hard

[Hally]

mafia is playing very well this game. like actually

[Long Con]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

may as well get this over with

But there's still a lot of time left in the day. Is this, then, the last time you plan to vote for Wilgy today?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nook, I probably didn't give your tony read enough consideration earlier because I thought you guys might just be teamed.

Can you articulate why you're so sure he's good, or is it another one of those inscrutable gut things?

Cause he’s playing the same as townTSP normally does

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Adding to that...at this point he’s an awkward at best teammate fit with three quarters of the game. I don’t usually put much stock in these kind of reads tbh but here I kind of am

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Don’t yell at me Hally

[Long Con]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

Could be seen as a scum Hally voting for the person less likely to care what she does, while saving someone that she can keep in the thread for buddying purposes.

From that perspective, this post from you could be seen as disappointment and resentment that it didn't work.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It’s not actually hard to imagine scumHally preferring tony stay around another day

It is hard to imagine scumHally and I encourage everyone to lock town her and let her self resolve

[Hally]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

may as well get this over with

But there's still a lot of time left in the day. Is this, then, the last time you plan to vote for Wilgy today?

what?

[Hally]

Don’t yell at me Hally

why would i yell at you

[Long Con]

[VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

may as well get this over with

But there's still a lot of time left in the day. Is this, then, the last time you plan to vote for Wilgy today?

what?

Maybe I just don't get "get this over with".

[Hally]

i almost feel like tony pushing me here is like a perspective slip because if he knows himself to be town i should be like lock town to him for pushing back on his wagon D1 when i easily could have let him die. him focusing on how i was apparently trying to steer away from wilgy seems extremely weird when i think it should be obvious particularly to him that what i was actually doing was trying to steer away from him, which i feel like should be obvious because he was the main wagon up until trip overtook him

i mean, its not actually a perspective slip but like idk. it feels weird

Could be seen as a scum Hally voting for the person less likely to care what she does, while saving someone that she can keep in the thread for buddying purposes.

From that perspective, this post from you could be seen as disappointment and resentment that it didn't work.

you guys are really twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to sr me and you should stop