Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 1]
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:00 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
It seems the one word isn't enough to explain your motive. Can you clarify? We are related but we are not one person.
She was asking me a bundle of questions about how I perceive age after I used age as my crutch for voting Seanzie.
This?Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:12 pmI think I started pretty good and if anything might have gotten worse lol.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:00 pmdo you think having studied arguments and rhetoric for your entire adult life has made you better at mafia? I noticed you just had a sick win in game 1 as mafiaGolden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:55 pmI use the gillick competency test.
(I’m a lawyer in child protection and gillick competency is how we assess whether a child is mature enough to make their own decisions so this is technically accurate.)
Or, if you want a more serious answer, I definitely don’t draw that line based on age, but if I did it would have to be somewhere older than me.
But I don’t think it’s my arguments and rhetoric that have made me good at mafia. I think it’s my ability to understand how people think. I can often see the motivations behind a post. Reads are more important arguments. I won that game because I had good reads on who I needed to kill and who would vote with me at lylo.
Prepare yourself for stubborn sass.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:02 pmsee how easy it was to answer, I have never played with you so prepare yourself for more questions in the future - fyiSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:55 pmYes, it was based on a false premise:Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:50 pmnah she wasn't she wanted to (and you *still* have not answered) know why you didn't find Golden's vote susp or more susp. Now I want to know as well. Not a false premise. This is mafia we ask questions we give answers. Do you find Golden's vote for you more or less susp than Scotty's?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:40 pmSVS's question is based on a false premise -that I voted Scotty because of his vote on me. This should've been clear considering the only post I talked about Scotty being a 69% (nice!) bad doggo, it wasn't about Scotty's vote. SVS wasn't questioning me in good faith, they were trying to push me with a false narrative.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:30 pm *sighs heavily*
not digging votes thrown out for no reason or sheeping (wtaf people??)
Golden - I am looking directly into your eyes.
Seanzie - SVS asking a simple question then you tell her to read when it is a perfect question to ask. I wanted to know as well but I do not know you like I know Golden though I am going to be watching for case making vs just throwing crap out to see what sticks.
falcon - slightly better but really would like to know more about your vote.
Scotty - though I am unsure of the reasons why you want to know what people what do with the cop INFO DUMPING role, tbh I am old school and would be shocked to see open INFO DUMPING I come from places where you had to make cases to get your info out I do not understand why anyone would out themselves for a nk this way when the role is so important to the town. If it is/or not my role I would make cases to prove what I have found out.
I do not think you are picking on Dennis I do think you are trying to engage him in the game to keep his interest going imo. Peeps did the same to my son Bass when he played.
Lucy - is your name Beatles related? What is your hang up about ages. I am old. You are young - get on with it.
Kate and the boys - No I do not think GMan would put them on the same team. Poss one of you but not all 3. I like how Dennis has been answering questions and keeping up, Jack seems more of a low poster like me and I dig that.
Mata is starting to get into it but where is splints? Bea?
There was something else but I cba'd to remember right now.
Just off work put still have a ton of paperwork left to finish tonight end of year is so hellish at my job.My vote on Scotty had nothing to do with Scotty's vote on me. SVS isn't actually reading my posts and considering my alignment here, they're just pushing to push.
I have exactly zero feels about Scottys vote and exactly zero feels about Golden's vote.
Yes this and what came before it. I don’t see much difference between this and the rest of Lucy, tbh. Her interactions with Dennis and Jack as mafia behaviour would also work more for me as buddying than hyperfocus. I think she’s been interacting with what’s in front of her.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:17 pmThis?Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:12 pmI think I started pretty good and if anything might have gotten worse lol.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:00 pmdo you think having studied arguments and rhetoric for your entire adult life has made you better at mafia? I noticed you just had a sick win in game 1 as mafiaGolden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:55 pmI use the gillick competency test.
(I’m a lawyer in child protection and gillick competency is how we assess whether a child is mature enough to make their own decisions so this is technically accurate.)
Or, if you want a more serious answer, I definitely don’t draw that line based on age, but if I did it would have to be somewhere older than me.
But I don’t think it’s my arguments and rhetoric that have made me good at mafia. I think it’s my ability to understand how people think. I can often see the motivations behind a post. Reads are more important arguments. I won that game because I had good reads on who I needed to kill and who would vote with me at lylo.
I didn’t view this that way, but I guess it could be read that way. Not by me, lol, but by some. I view this more as drawing you out, maybe a bit of buddying, but it’s a fine line.
You were a pressure vote for a ridiculous vote. It was a temp vote and you know that I think. This may be too.
I mean, one could more-or-less-accurately try to label my vote as "no U", but my point is that it wasn't "no U" in the way SVS tried to push (it was NOT a you/Goldeen grouping as SVS tried to make it). The chances of You/Sabi/Dennis having a wolf is >rand IMO based on how people reacted to Sabi's post about me, and I voted you over that because at the time you were the most concerning to me out of the three. If you want to call that "no U", I mean, sure. It fit's in a level 0 way.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:20 pmSorry bub, I’m with everyone elseSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:55 pmYes, it was based on a false premise:Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:50 pmnah she wasn't she wanted to (and you *still* have not answered) know why you didn't find Golden's vote susp or more susp. Now I want to know as well. Not a false premise. This is mafia we ask questions we give answers. Do you find Golden's vote for you more or less susp than Scotty's?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:40 pmSVS's question is based on a false premise -that I voted Scotty because of his vote on me. This should've been clear considering the only post I talked about Scotty being a 69% (nice!) bad doggo, it wasn't about Scotty's vote. SVS wasn't questioning me in good faith, they were trying to push me with a false narrative.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:30 pm *sighs heavily*
not digging votes thrown out for no reason or sheeping (wtaf people??)
Golden - I am looking directly into your eyes.
Seanzie - SVS asking a simple question then you tell her to read when it is a perfect question to ask. I wanted to know as well but I do not know you like I know Golden though I am going to be watching for case making vs just throwing crap out to see what sticks.
falcon - slightly better but really would like to know more about your vote.
Scotty - though I am unsure of the reasons why you want to know what people what do with the cop INFO DUMPING role, tbh I am old school and would be shocked to see open INFO DUMPING I come from places where you had to make cases to get your info out I do not understand why anyone would out themselves for a nk this way when the role is so important to the town. If it is/or not my role I would make cases to prove what I have found out.
I do not think you are picking on Dennis I do think you are trying to engage him in the game to keep his interest going imo. Peeps did the same to my son Bass when he played.
Lucy - is your name Beatles related? What is your hang up about ages. I am old. You are young - get on with it.
Kate and the boys - No I do not think GMan would put them on the same team. Poss one of you but not all 3. I like how Dennis has been answering questions and keeping up, Jack seems more of a low poster like me and I dig that.
Mata is starting to get into it but where is splints? Bea?
There was something else but I cba'd to remember right now.
Just off work put still have a ton of paperwork left to finish tonight end of year is so hellish at my job.My vote on Scotty had nothing to do with Scotty's vote on me. SVS isn't actually reading my posts and considering my alignment here, they're just pushing to push.
I have exactly zero feels about Scottys vote and exactly zero feels about Golden's vote.
I thought your vote was a blatant No U reactionary vote.![]()
And now that you’re saying it’s not…makes me happy to keep my vote on you lol
You have ZERO feels about the votes on you? Balzac
What's linki? Sorry for the million questions but I need to know.Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:21 pmYes this and what came before it. I don’t see much difference between this and the rest of Lucy, tbh. Her interactions with Dennis and Jack as mafia behaviour would also work more for me as buddying than hyperfocus. I think she’s been interacting with what’s in front of her.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:17 pmThis?Golden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:12 pmI think I started pretty good and if anything might have gotten worse lol.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:00 pmdo you think having studied arguments and rhetoric for your entire adult life has made you better at mafia? I noticed you just had a sick win in game 1 as mafiaGolden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:55 pmI use the gillick competency test.
(I’m a lawyer in child protection and gillick competency is how we assess whether a child is mature enough to make their own decisions so this is technically accurate.)
Or, if you want a more serious answer, I definitely don’t draw that line based on age, but if I did it would have to be somewhere older than me.
But I don’t think it’s my arguments and rhetoric that have made me good at mafia. I think it’s my ability to understand how people think. I can often see the motivations behind a post. Reads are more important arguments. I won that game because I had good reads on who I needed to kill and who would vote with me at lylo.
I didn’t view this that way, but I guess it could be read that way. Not by me, lol, but by some. I view this more as drawing you out, maybe a bit of buddying, but it’s a fine line.
Linki @Kate talking to svs
Ehh, okay you can be town.
just vote SVS.Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:30 pm I'm going to be honest:
- Seanzie x svs : made my eyes glaze over
- lucy x family trio : what the point was all of that?
- scotty x golden : also made my eyes glaze over
Maybe it's my mafia burn out but meh nothing is sticking to me in my Brain in terms of those major arguments.
I really hope someone does the tl;dr because you seem very no u-ish right now.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:35 pmEhh, okay you can be town.
Stop barking at my lolcat/scratchycat and start looking at SVS.
Just do the English-cut-of-DBZ thing as send them to the next dimension.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:35 pmI’d say the entire disapproval of ‘lynching’ is the negative connotation from American history, but I’m sure someone else would be able to more succinctly explain it.lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:28 pmcrucify/execute/kill/murder/hang/behead/string upScotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:25 pm ****Just a PSA, and it’s not a big deal, but the word ‘lynch’ is a term that many people have felt recently is not the most appropriate term to be using. I know it’s definitely still in the old vernacular and I constantly have to go back and edit it myself when I’m typing it out, but I’m just putting out there that there are perhaps better terms that could be used to describe it- elim/elimination is one. I’m sure others have alternatives.
Sorry, the MoD in me just felt like piping in about that.
are these words allowed?
I think in terms of this game, murder is closer to a night kill, execution is closer to elimination. Hanging might be too close to lynch. But I don’t know. I’m only an arbiter
Nope, no I didn’t. I (as I said about 10 times so far) thought that of the two cites on you, that Goldens was more suspicious than Scotty’s. I was surprised that you voted for Scotty rather than Goldens, whose vote was ill reasoned.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:31 pmI mean, one could more-or-less-accurately try to label my vote as "no U", but my point is that it wasn't "no U" in the way SVS tried to push (it was NOT a you/Goldeen grouping as SVS tried to make it). The chances of You/Sabi/Dennis having a wolf is >rand IMO based on how people reacted to Sabi's post about me, and I voted you over that because at the time you were the most concerning to me out of the three. If you want to call that "no U", I mean, sure. It fit's in a level 0 way.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:20 pmSorry bub, I’m with everyone elseSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:55 pmYes, it was based on a false premise:Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:50 pmnah she wasn't she wanted to (and you *still* have not answered) know why you didn't find Golden's vote susp or more susp. Now I want to know as well. Not a false premise. This is mafia we ask questions we give answers. Do you find Golden's vote for you more or less susp than Scotty's?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:40 pmSVS's question is based on a false premise -that I voted Scotty because of his vote on me. This should've been clear considering the only post I talked about Scotty being a 69% (nice!) bad doggo, it wasn't about Scotty's vote. SVS wasn't questioning me in good faith, they were trying to push me with a false narrative.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:30 pm *sighs heavily*
not digging votes thrown out for no reason or sheeping (wtaf people??)
Golden - I am looking directly into your eyes.
Seanzie - SVS asking a simple question then you tell her to read when it is a perfect question to ask. I wanted to know as well but I do not know you like I know Golden though I am going to be watching for case making vs just throwing crap out to see what sticks.
falcon - slightly better but really would like to know more about your vote.
Scotty - though I am unsure of the reasons why you want to know what people what do with the cop INFO DUMPING role, tbh I am old school and would be shocked to see open INFO DUMPING I come from places where you had to make cases to get your info out I do not understand why anyone would out themselves for a nk this way when the role is so important to the town. If it is/or not my role I would make cases to prove what I have found out.
I do not think you are picking on Dennis I do think you are trying to engage him in the game to keep his interest going imo. Peeps did the same to my son Bass when he played.
Lucy - is your name Beatles related? What is your hang up about ages. I am old. You are young - get on with it.
Kate and the boys - No I do not think GMan would put them on the same team. Poss one of you but not all 3. I like how Dennis has been answering questions and keeping up, Jack seems more of a low poster like me and I dig that.
Mata is starting to get into it but where is splints? Bea?
There was something else but I cba'd to remember right now.
Just off work put still have a ton of paperwork left to finish tonight end of year is so hellish at my job.My vote on Scotty had nothing to do with Scotty's vote on me. SVS isn't actually reading my posts and considering my alignment here, they're just pushing to push.
I have exactly zero feels about Scottys vote and exactly zero feels about Golden's vote.
I thought your vote was a blatant No U reactionary vote.![]()
And now that you’re saying it’s not…makes me happy to keep my vote on you lol
You have ZERO feels about the votes on you? Balzac
My issue with SVS is that they tried to make a Sabi/you(Scotty)/Dennis thing about you(scotty)/Golden, when it never was about that, and suggesting that Scotty/Golden should have a wolf or that I should think Scotty/Golden should have a wolf because they both voted me makes little sense IMO.
Yes, the votes on me did not tug on my heartstrings one way or the other in any significant manner.
I'm not sure I like how off topic Wigly is being. You're being silly and I absolutely respect that but unless I missed something you haven't really contributed. Do you have any reads?
My point is that 4 people expressed some sort of suspicion on me and I voted one. SVS then came in and pushed a false narrative on me. I don't think they realized it was false necessarily, instead I think they weren't actually critically examining my slot and tried to put in a low-blow to a townie being pushed by at least 2-3 other townies.
Hi Wigly!
(as I'm not aware of the climate of this game and it's players, please note this is entirely satire)
Ty!Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:51 pmHi Wigly!
Well it was worth a shot. Have fun chilling!
Nope, none of my posts said a thing about you, only about the people who voted for you, I had zero opinion about you tbh until you started this .,, I don’t know what to call it, thing, against me based on nothing I said.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:49 pmMy point is that 4 people expressed some sort of suspicion on me and I voted one. SVS then came in and pushed a false narrative on me. I don't think they realized it was false necessarily, instead I think they weren't actually critically examining my slot and tried to put in a low-blow to a townie being pushed by at least 2-3 other townies.
If a wolf comes into a thread and sees me gaining suspicion like that, the wolf does what SVS did.
I asked you to look in my ISO to look up the post that you were missing. I made exactly one post about scotty before I voted them, and you either ignored that or didn't bother to go find it. Instead you implied that I found Scotty's vote worse than Golden's vote, which is not at all the case. I didn't make it up. Do I need to quote the posts? Have you found the ONE post that was relevant to my vote on Scotty yet? My ISO is still short, so there is still time.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:41 pmNope, no I didn’t. I (as I said about 10 times so far) thought that of the two cites on you, that Goldens was more suspicious than Scotty’s. I was surprised that you voted for Scotty rather than Goldens, whose vote was ill reasoned.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 9:31 pmI mean, one could more-or-less-accurately try to label my vote as "no U", but my point is that it wasn't "no U" in the way SVS tried to push (it was NOT a you/Goldeen grouping as SVS tried to make it). The chances of You/Sabi/Dennis having a wolf is >rand IMO based on how people reacted to Sabi's post about me, and I voted you over that because at the time you were the most concerning to me out of the three. If you want to call that "no U", I mean, sure. It fit's in a level 0 way.Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:20 pmSorry bub, I’m with everyone elseSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:55 pmYes, it was based on a false premise:Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:50 pmnah she wasn't she wanted to (and you *still* have not answered) know why you didn't find Golden's vote susp or more susp. Now I want to know as well. Not a false premise. This is mafia we ask questions we give answers. Do you find Golden's vote for you more or less susp than Scotty's?Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:40 pmSVS's question is based on a false premise -that I voted Scotty because of his vote on me. This should've been clear considering the only post I talked about Scotty being a 69% (nice!) bad doggo, it wasn't about Scotty's vote. SVS wasn't questioning me in good faith, they were trying to push me with a false narrative.Roxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:30 pm *sighs heavily*
not digging votes thrown out for no reason or sheeping (wtaf people??)
Golden - I am looking directly into your eyes.
Seanzie - SVS asking a simple question then you tell her to read when it is a perfect question to ask. I wanted to know as well but I do not know you like I know Golden though I am going to be watching for case making vs just throwing crap out to see what sticks.
falcon - slightly better but really would like to know more about your vote.
Scotty - though I am unsure of the reasons why you want to know what people what do with the cop INFO DUMPING role, tbh I am old school and would be shocked to see open INFO DUMPING I come from places where you had to make cases to get your info out I do not understand why anyone would out themselves for a nk this way when the role is so important to the town. If it is/or not my role I would make cases to prove what I have found out.
I do not think you are picking on Dennis I do think you are trying to engage him in the game to keep his interest going imo. Peeps did the same to my son Bass when he played.
Lucy - is your name Beatles related? What is your hang up about ages. I am old. You are young - get on with it.
Kate and the boys - No I do not think GMan would put them on the same team. Poss one of you but not all 3. I like how Dennis has been answering questions and keeping up, Jack seems more of a low poster like me and I dig that.
Mata is starting to get into it but where is splints? Bea?
There was something else but I cba'd to remember right now.
Just off work put still have a ton of paperwork left to finish tonight end of year is so hellish at my job.My vote on Scotty had nothing to do with Scotty's vote on me. SVS isn't actually reading my posts and considering my alignment here, they're just pushing to push.
I have exactly zero feels about Scottys vote and exactly zero feels about Golden's vote.
I thought your vote was a blatant No U reactionary vote.![]()
And now that you’re saying it’s not…makes me happy to keep my vote on you lol
You have ZERO feels about the votes on you? Balzac
My issue with SVS is that they tried to make a Sabi/you(Scotty)/Dennis thing about you(scotty)/Golden, when it never was about that, and suggesting that Scotty/Golden should have a wolf or that I should think Scotty/Golden should have a wolf because they both voted me makes little sense IMO.
Yes, the votes on me did not tug on my heartstrings one way or the other in any significant manner.
The rest of all that up there ^^ you made up. Never said any of it, never implied any of it.
You’re doing an awesome pretzel dance trying to imply I’m bad but youre just making it up.
This is the one and only post where I talk about Scotty before I vote there. Clearly putting a Sabi/Scotty/Dennis triple with at least one wolf.
This is SVS's response to my vote.Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:41 amChances this triple contains a wolf? Like 99%Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:28 amI agree with this. Upon reading it I didn’t know what was bothering me, but I think it’s the specifics of laying out his strategy, like boldly announcing to the entire office that he’s going to use the restroom, ‘but not just to pee!’
Chances it contains two wolves? Like 11.2%
Chances it's Scotty? Like 69% nice!
I did not talk about Scotty's vote at all. I also did not talk about Golden's vote. I talked about Sabi's post and Dennis/Scotty's reactions, which I think are still probably an important thing to note. SVS did not consider my actual reason for voting Scotty.