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Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:02 am
by Ash Lael
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:02 am
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 pm it is time. lettuce kill lc

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

:charlieblackmon:
is it a follow up vote after ash's question? is LC a good PR hunter?
Hally was casing LC overnight.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:04 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:02 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:02 am
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 pm it is time. lettuce kill lc

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

:charlieblackmon:
is it a follow up vote after ash's question? is LC a good PR hunter?
Hally was casing LC overnight.
I wasted a lot of time and attention on Mich. rip . will read those after catching up from Day 2.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm In that case I’m fine parking here: [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
How are you reading tony atm? You were pretty seriously on him till last day right?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:09 am
by Ash Lael
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm In that case I’m fine parking here: [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
How are you reading tony atm? You were pretty seriously on him till last day right?
I'm trying to use the day to pursue possibilities other than scum tony. Rather than spending the whole day 2 on the same tunnel like in g8.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:10 am
by Poison
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:11 pm is this gonna be the game where ppl sheep me and then im wrong and then everyone is like “hally was wrong let’s kill them”

or will i be right and actually force scum to shoot me. stay tuned to find out
tbh, I think your avatar is very much leader like. XD

but tbh, I think there's some sheeping going on?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:13 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:09 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm In that case I’m fine parking here: [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
How are you reading tony atm? You were pretty seriously on him till last day right?
I'm trying to use the day to pursue possibilities other than scum tony. Rather than spending the whole day 2 on the same tunnel like in g8.
that makes sense. But you know he was still the counterwagon against a 2 poster who was misyeeted last day. Can we really rule that out? Although I do agree he had been a tiny little okayish since the EoD. but I guess, you are taking him as scum!tsp ?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:15 am
by Poison
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:15 pm wilgy is also an acceptable kill but atm i think lc is more likely to be a hit
I don't understand this rush behind yeeting the LHFs tbh, do you think Wilgy as a low poster is AI ?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:17 am
by Poison
Arete wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 pm Did you guys not think her claim was serious

I did that’s why I ignored scumreads on her lol
her claim was ~modconfirmed fake, I was basically assuming that she was VT trying to bait a nightkill
same, she did something sijmilar last game as well, although not entirely similar but yea

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:17 am
by Ash Lael
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:13 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:09 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm In that case I’m fine parking here: [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
How are you reading tony atm? You were pretty seriously on him till last day right?
I'm trying to use the day to pursue possibilities other than scum tony. Rather than spending the whole day 2 on the same tunnel like in g8.
that makes sense. But you know he was still the counterwagon against a 2 poster who was misyeeted last day. Can we really rule that out? Although I do agree he had been a tiny little okayish since the EoD. but I guess, you are taking him as scum!tsp ?
I am trying to make myself exist in a state of deliberate Tony agnosticism. Later in the day I will reassess. If after reassessing I still want him dead, I'll try to kill him again.

But right now we're still a long way from anyone dying so I want to do something more productive than yell at tony for 48 hours straight.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:19 am
by Poison
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:05 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:02 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:56 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:54 pm Epi, talk to me about your tony sus. Same reasons as me or different ones?
Given that I don't know what your reasons are, I can't answer to that. What are your reasons?
Oh, I had assumed you had backread more. Interesting then you're getting it just off his last few posts.

I think his tone is off and there was a read he made on your slot that I think reeks of TMI.
I skimmed and Tony seems more eager to sow chaos than figure things out. That's the impression I got.

Linking Hally with Wilgy is trash.
yeah mindmeld , I think tony do have quite the number of post count but yea kinda fluffy chaotic.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:20 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:17 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:13 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:09 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:05 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:05 pm In that case I’m fine parking here: [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine
How are you reading tony atm? You were pretty seriously on him till last day right?
I'm trying to use the day to pursue possibilities other than scum tony. Rather than spending the whole day 2 on the same tunnel like in g8.
that makes sense. But you know he was still the counterwagon against a 2 poster who was misyeeted last day. Can we really rule that out? Although I do agree he had been a tiny little okayish since the EoD. but I guess, you are taking him as scum!tsp ?
I am trying to make myself exist in a state of deliberate Tony agnosticism. Later in the day I will reassess. If after reassessing I still want him dead, I'll try to kill him again.

But right now we're still a long way from anyone dying so I want to do something more productive than yell at tony for 48 hours straight.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense and I should try to learn that.

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:24 am
by Poison
Long Con wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:17 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:10 pm @Long Con id like a full reads list from you with perhaps one line of reasoning for each read at your earliest convenience. thanks
112 - scum. I voted for her on Day 1, and she OMGUSed me, still happy to jump on an LC vote. Too eager.
Arete - town... players who are new to me are harder to read, I think.
Ash Lael - town, new player. I recall nodding along with some posts.
DrWilgy- I dunno. No one does.
Epignosis - null. I was willing to chop dunya, but I also liked Epi's push to investigate the Triple chop, and focus on those who had reason to vote elsewhere. Leaning town on Tony though, so a close chop between two town would yield less fruit. Maybe looking at those earlier trains that dissipated after Nanook led the way to Triple's train would be more beneficial.
Hally - town I guess.
Long Con - town. :shrug2: Chop away, this is what you want.
Michelle - town. I think she's genuine.
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - scum. I have disagreed with most of Nanook's reasoning, and found it devoid of value. This may be a usual thing and NAI, because of his slavish devotion to PoE, but I think that very devotion can easily used to hide behind as scum. "I don't need to hunt - I'm just going PoE! Who's the next low hanging fruit on the menu?"
Poison Chan - town, I like the volume and I like the content
tedxtr - lean scum, but he's been scum so many times is it valid?
TonyStarkPrime - town, I liked his Day 1 twilight post
Vulgard - town, his posts a few hours ago kind of locked him as town for me, for now at least
so you'd just give a free town read to all the new players, because you can't read them or idk?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:26 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
The thing besides POE that makes me think LC might actually be Mafia is that he’s actually been open to the virtues of POE and towncore style play in the past, and while not entirely buying into it himself had seemed to reach some level of “I don’t know how but it seems like it works for you guys so good on you” acceptance...so his vitriol towards it this game and his characterizing myself as being lazy and low effort for playing the way I do is out of line with what I perceive his actual views to be

Maybe he’s just fed up or pissy or something, but if I’m looking for a reason he could be scum beyond the OMGUS “you’re being a dick fuck you too” that would be it. I don’t really see a tangible difference between, say, this game and upick where he was town and accepting of the existence of POE.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
by Michelle
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.

Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:29 am
by Poison
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:23 pm
Long Con wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:17 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:31 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:26 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:24 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:16 pm actually considering pushing lc over wilgy next day, which is... not where i was like 30 min ago
I would vote Long Con, yes.
did you iso him? i know you have more experience with him than me so im curious about your read there
This is one I skimmed. I saw he said he would vote for me, so I took a peek.
Long Con wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:56 pm
dunya wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:56 pm
Long Con wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:53 pm Getting rid of low posters is good town play

I’m here to preach not to argue
Not good Day 1 play.
i agree, so why were you voting for me?
I liked Michelle's case.
I'd be interested to know what Long Con liked about Michelle's "case." It amounted to circular reasoning and "too many wolves."
Michelle's case for reference.

I, like Michelle, dislike an early certainty of reads. I didn't like how dunya was throwing shade at Michelle for trying a different style, it's a cheap shot, and I don't think delving into something like that, especially early, is particularly thoughtful scumhunting. I thought Michelle's criticism of dunya's "holier than thou tone" post in response to Ash was astute. At the end, Michelle challenges us to find reasons to townread dunya. Reading back over dunya's posts with that in mind, I could see them being scummy.
I don't recall this from you as a civilian. Or at all, really.

So Michelle is trying a new style. That V guy is trying a new style. I guess it is autumn now, isn't it?
we all changing styles. Having the same thing for too long would start to smell bad. :blush: also Hi!!

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
by Ash Lael
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:32 am
by Poison
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:26 am The thing besides POE that makes me think LC might actually be Mafia is that he’s actually been open to the virtues of POE and towncore style play in the past, and while not entirely buying into it himself had seemed to reach some level of “I don’t know how but it seems like it works for you guys so good on you” acceptance...so his vitriol towards it this game and his characterizing myself as being lazy and low effort for playing the way I do is out of line with what I perceive his actual views to be

Maybe he’s just fed up or pissy or something, but if I’m looking for a reason he could be scum beyond the OMGUS “you’re being a dick fuck you too” that would be it. I don’t really see a tangible difference between, say, this game and upick where he was town and accepting of the existence of POE.
the colored part, did he do that as town or scum?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:33 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
Ash, how do you feel about the wagons on you in general.? I mean, if we rule out the timing, how do you generally see it as?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:33 am
by Ash Lael
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:26 am The thing besides POE that makes me think LC might actually be Mafia is that he’s actually been open to the virtues of POE and towncore style play in the past, and while not entirely buying into it himself had seemed to reach some level of “I don’t know how but it seems like it works for you guys so good on you” acceptance...so his vitriol towards it this game and his characterizing myself as being lazy and low effort for playing the way I do is out of line with what I perceive his actual views to be

Maybe he’s just fed up or pissy or something, but if I’m looking for a reason he could be scum beyond the OMGUS “you’re being a dick fuck you too” that would be it. I don’t really see a tangible difference between, say, this game and upick where he was town and accepting of the existence of POE.
Interesting point. Can anyone else confirm that Nook’s memory of this is correct?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:35 am
by Poison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:33 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
What the heck
I take it all back
Everything I said was wrong
what do you think is right Mr.Tony?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:36 am
by Ash Lael
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:33 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
Ash, how do you feel about the wagons on you in general.? I mean, if we rule out the timing, how do you generally see it as?
I dunno, although there’s been a lot of suspicion voiced about me there’s not been many votes.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:38 am
by Poison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:19 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
You would have to convince me that Hally is bad. Can you do that?
Somethin somethin Bayes
what do you mean by bayes? i don't quite understand. :puppy:

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:39 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:36 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:33 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
Ash, how do you feel about the wagons on you in general.? I mean, if we rule out the timing, how do you generally see it as?
I dunno, although there’s been a lot of suspicion voiced about me there’s not been many votes.
okay - i will i ask you a question again when I'm clear in my mind what I want to ask you exactly.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:40 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:26 am The thing besides POE that makes me think LC might actually be Mafia is that he’s actually been open to the virtues of POE and towncore style play in the past, and while not entirely buying into it himself had seemed to reach some level of “I don’t know how but it seems like it works for you guys so good on you” acceptance...so his vitriol towards it this game and his characterizing myself as being lazy and low effort for playing the way I do is out of line with what I perceive his actual views to be

Maybe he’s just fed up or pissy or something, but if I’m looking for a reason he could be scum beyond the OMGUS “you’re being a dick fuck you too” that would be it. I don’t really see a tangible difference between, say, this game and upick where he was town and accepting of the existence of POE.
the colored part, did he do that as town or scum?
Town

Idr him taking a stance one way or the other as scum

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:40 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:38 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:19 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
You would have to convince me that Hally is bad. Can you do that?
Somethin somethin Bayes
what do you mean by bayes? i don't quite understand. :puppy:
in this scenario hally is bad only if wilgy is bad. I don't think Hally is a wolf, but I definitely don't think HAlly is a wolf if Wilgy isn't a wolf. therefore, I don't feel a need to argue for hally being a wolf.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:40 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Town and in postgame actually IIRC

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:41 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:36 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:33 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
Ash, how do you feel about the wagons on you in general.? I mean, if we rule out the timing, how do you generally see it as?
I dunno, although there’s been a lot of suspicion voiced about me there’s not been many votes.
is this kind of awareness something I shoul dbe worried about

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:41 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:33 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:26 am The thing besides POE that makes me think LC might actually be Mafia is that he’s actually been open to the virtues of POE and towncore style play in the past, and while not entirely buying into it himself had seemed to reach some level of “I don’t know how but it seems like it works for you guys so good on you” acceptance...so his vitriol towards it this game and his characterizing myself as being lazy and low effort for playing the way I do is out of line with what I perceive his actual views to be

Maybe he’s just fed up or pissy or something, but if I’m looking for a reason he could be scum beyond the OMGUS “you’re being a dick fuck you too” that would be it. I don’t really see a tangible difference between, say, this game and upick where he was town and accepting of the existence of POE.
Interesting point. Can anyone else confirm that Nook’s memory of this is correct?
interesting tell got em

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:36 pm I think if Hally wants Wilgy to live she just gets on board with the Tony wagon though. Unless the team is exactly Tony/Wilgy/Hally I guess. But I doubt Wilgy and Tony are paired, so that's a pretty unlikely world.
why do you think wilgy/tony is not w/w?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:35 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:33 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
What the heck
I take it all back
Everything I said was wrong
what do you think is right Mr.Tony?
ash and 112 ash and 112 ash and 112

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:43 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:40 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:38 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:36 pm I think if Hally wants Wilgy to live she just gets on board with the Tony wagon though. Unless the team is exactly Tony/Wilgy/Hally I guess. But I doubt Wilgy and Tony are paired, so that's a pretty unlikely world.
Why do you doubt that Wilgy and Tony are paired
Because he blatantly asked you where he should vote in thread, and that's not something I would expect a partner to do.

Like maybe some high level wolves relying on wifom would, but unless Wilgy contains depths I haven't seen I'm pretty sceptical that exactly he does it.
[mention]Poison Chan[/mention]

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:43 am
by Poison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:41 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:36 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:33 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
Ash, how do you feel about the wagons on you in general.? I mean, if we rule out the timing, how do you generally see it as?
I dunno, although there’s been a lot of suspicion voiced about me there’s not been many votes.
is this kind of awareness something I shoul dbe worried about
:shrug:

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:44 am
by TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:46 pm
Hally wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:42 am i really hate saying stuff like this but i feel i have to put my foot down and say that i absolutely refuse to allow a nook wagon to happen. @DrWilgy @Long Con you should move. nook is town
Kay
you're not helpful
Want me to vote 112?
also this is the only post ash can possibly be referring to?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:46 am
by Michelle
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
The yellow:
It doesn't matter, why would you take the most villagery player in the game to discuss this to clear your thoughts?
Why would you not ask me about details?

my vote stays on you, and being Sunday i will enjoy this day irl.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:47 am
by TonyStarkPrime
hm per ash's iso he doesn't have a lot to say about wilgy

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:47 am
by Poison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:43 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:40 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:38 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:36 pm I think if Hally wants Wilgy to live she just gets on board with the Tony wagon though. Unless the team is exactly Tony/Wilgy/Hally I guess. But I doubt Wilgy and Tony are paired, so that's a pretty unlikely world.
Why do you doubt that Wilgy and Tony are paired
Because he blatantly asked you where he should vote in thread, and that's not something I would expect a partner to do.

Like maybe some high level wolves relying on wifom would, but unless Wilgy contains depths I haven't seen I'm pretty sceptical that exactly he does it.
@Poison Chan
ah thanks!

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:49 am
by TonyStarkPrime
there's a weird thing here though

ash disaligns me and wilgy, something he wouldn't do if ash/wilgy w/w but he picks up on wilgy/hally, something he wouldn't do if ash/wilgy w/v

so

?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:49 am
by Poison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:35 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:33 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
What the heck
I take it all back
Everything I said was wrong
what do you think is right Mr.Tony?
ash and 112 ash and 112 ash and 112
interesting ! do you plan to push them?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:50 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:49 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:42 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:35 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:33 pm
Ash Lael wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:16 pm The Hally/Wilgy argument is actually valid, I think.

Like, I don't think that's the world we're in, but she totally did play a role in making TH Tony's counterwagon instead of Wilgy. And now she's pushing Long Con ahead of him.

A scum strategy where the powerwolf keeps pushing some other scummy player as a marginally better choice than their PoE partner could be a thing.
What the heck
I take it all back
Everything I said was wrong
what do you think is right Mr.Tony?
ash and 112 ash and 112 ash and 112
interesting ! do you plan to push them?
well that's where I'm voting and expressing thoughts about

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:50 am
by TonyStarkPrime
though it's 3 am and I've been studying all day and I should be sleeping now so I can do more studying tomorrow but I am not tired becuase I fell asleep literally with a copy of critique of pure reason open

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:50 am
by Ash Lael
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:46 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
The yellow:
It doesn't matter, why would you take the most villagery player in the game to discuss this to clear your thoughts?
Why would you not ask me about details?

my vote stays on you, and being Sunday i will enjoy this day irl.
What on earth is wrong with talking with other players about my reads?

Besides which I’m talking to you now and you’re not answering my questions. Do you still think I’m scum to scared to push a mislynch?

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:51 am
by Poison
Long Con wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:33 pm lc, you acknowledge that nook always plays like this as town. what makes him scum this time as opposed to town who is just using the same method he always does?
I will probably never stop suspecting him for it, because it's plainly such an effortless thing to base his game around, and if that's all it takes to be read as town then he's going to take everyone to the cleaners each and every time he rolls scum. Just depends on which side of history you want to be on.
tbh, i think this is a fair point.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:52 am
by Poison
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:50 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:46 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:27 am
Ash Lael wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 1:40 am Michelle, earlier you said I looked like a scum too afraid to push for a mislynch.

Do you still think that?
Earlier was in the previous day isn't it? You ask like it was minutes ago?

I recently showed scum behaviour of yours and you instead talking to me you chose Hally to express worries about me. This is nagl.

You said to Hally that you said open somewhere that you SR me but i didn't read all the thread, because i am too busy for this, but at the moment of my reaction you did what i said.

A bad sight for Hally's power towning i am 99% we are witnessing in this game is that townies can't keep up with her, i certainly can't so big chunks of the thread remains unread.
Correct, it was yesterday that you said that. I am trying to understand how your read on me has developed.

I didn’t respond to your vote right away as it took some time to digest and decide how I felt about it.
The yellow:
It doesn't matter, why would you take the most villagery player in the game to discuss this to clear your thoughts?
Why would you not ask me about details?

my vote stays on you, and being Sunday i will enjoy this day irl.
What on earth is wrong with talking with other players about my reads?

Besides which I’m talking to you now and you’re not answering my questions. Do you still think I’m scum to scared to push a mislynch?
I kinda wanna see how this goes on.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:52 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:51 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:33 pm lc, you acknowledge that nook always plays like this as town. what makes him scum this time as opposed to town who is just using the same method he always does?
I will probably never stop suspecting him for it, because it's plainly such an effortless thing to base his game around, and if that's all it takes to be read as town then he's going to take everyone to the cleaners each and every time he rolls scum. Just depends on which side of history you want to be on.
tbh, i think this is a fair point.
nook plays differently as scum. see: any game where he's scum.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:54 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
It also isn’t a fair point, or a valid one. The way I play requires work it’s just different work 🤷‍♀️

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:55 am
by Poison
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:41 pm like you’re making it sound like wilgy was headed for certain death and then i hard defended him and everyone was like “welp guess we can’t vote him now and have to kill trip.” but no part of that is even close to true
I think, even if i townread you, just for the opinion, Scum would start moving when their mate is counterwagonish.

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:55 am
by Ash Lael
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:49 am there's a weird thing here though

ash disaligns me and wilgy, something he wouldn't do if ash/wilgy w/w but he picks up on wilgy/hally, something he wouldn't do if ash/wilgy w/v

so

?
So finish the thought. :D

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:56 am
by Poison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:52 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:51 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:37 pm
Hally wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:33 pm lc, you acknowledge that nook always plays like this as town. what makes him scum this time as opposed to town who is just using the same method he always does?
I will probably never stop suspecting him for it, because it's plainly such an effortless thing to base his game around, and if that's all it takes to be read as town then he's going to take everyone to the cleaners each and every time he rolls scum. Just depends on which side of history you want to be on.
tbh, i think this is a fair point.
nook plays differently as scum. see: any game where he's scum.
then I'm just wrong, and he's trying sell something for his purpose .

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:56 am
by TonyStarkPrime
it's also just wrong. the way that nanook plays as town (when he's trying) isn't any more or less replicable as scum than any other player's strategies. he has 400 posts this game to read from. if you're gonna go after effortless, there are better places to start

Re: Escape From Russia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:57 am
by Poison
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:54 am It also isn’t a fair point, or a valid one. The way I play requires work it’s just different work 🤷‍♀️
:fist: I didn't mean to say that you don't do any work. ... ...