The Syndicate

At least you never did lightningrods.

One game I hosted had 3 roles that had 50% chance of redirecting every kill to them if they ac tivated certain abilities.

Never again.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:00 pm Did nobody actually target me last night? ;_;

Sorry I liked the sound of your plan but I'd already sent my action and I liked my plan better.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

Could have been Quin. He misdirected a random person into a random person.

That weasel.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

How do you know you were misdirected?

I especifically asked Jack what yould happen if I misdirected you and he told me you would never notice. You'd just get wrong results.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:20 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:16 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

How do you know you were misdirected?

And who did you originally target?

I targeted TSP, the mod said my target is from Goodguyia. TSP claimed to be from Badguyia. I know it's crazy, but my first reaction was: why is he lying. Second was to laugh and wonder if TSP was a "godfather" and didn't know it and outed himself as the first person from Badguyia when I said scum might do this as a strategy to appear civ, but...what a scum slip that would be.

Nvm should read the thread before posting.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:23 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

How do you know you were misdirected?

I especifically asked Jack what yould happen if I misdirected you and he told me you would never notice. You'd just get wrong results.

I'm curious: knowing I'm an ID cop, why did you misdirect me? You've repeatedly claimed you think I'm Civ.

He claims to have misdirected someone else iirc.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:51 am Wait where did he get an alphabetized list dunya

ISO list. Enjoy.

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:31 am He claims to have misdirected someone else iirc.

Ok dont have time to read all thread. I won't have much time from hereon forward till I finish a work project and an exam. So enjoy my distance and hope you get separation anxiety.

I didn't misdirect you.

I asked Jack what would happen if I misdirected you.

Why? Because I wanted to know exactly how much damage a mafia misdirector could do to town by targetting you.

Hence my decision to misdirect Quin instead.

I'm curious @lapluie did you use your action last night?

She came in and gave a speech about being overwhelmed and getting over it and now she's disappeared again.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:36 am Why? Because I wanted to know exactly how much damage a mafia misdirector could do to town by targetting you.

Hence my decision to misdirect Quin instead.

That makes sense. Sorry, I haven't read a few pages and just saw the first quote on me.

@Quin - have you seen a scum lapluie in action before?

If lap was don, Quin would be on her team tbh imo.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:41 pm wait what if sprityo is ring?

Nice catch.

Someone should vig him imo.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:24 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:03 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:00 pm I'm about to go out, but I made it like half way through his ISO. I think he looks relatively good. I understand the Colin vote day one although I didn't agree with the case against him at the time. I'm not into lynching lurkers so early in the game, and that's what he seemed to be trying to move towards at the point I made it to, but maybe he plays it like that. Slight town read.

that's an excellent starting point to ease my worries. Let me go and see how he handled lurker lynches in the Mountains game because I remember nothing (as usual).

I skimmed all 200+ posts of cBob's in Mountains and didn't find any vote on a lurker (except right before he died, he voted for then MIA and inactive sig, but then changed it to Quin as a final vote). He was civ in that game and voting for vocal, active players.

I don't know why I get bad feelings from his voting pattern so far this games and reasoning behind it, especially after Kites kinda echoed what I was thinking this morning.

i'm disappointed no one commented on this. I mean, skimming didn't take me that long, but I did it for a reason.

why is no one else sensing something off in cbob's inactive vote placements and now Iron_Dwarf, he isn't a vocal player, and him asking me "who" he should vote for vs. his voting patterns in Mountains mafia which were unlike this despite there being several lurkers or inactives.

I'm gonna ISO cBob and see how I feel at some point (today? maybe?).

I almost voted for Kyle now because I thought he was Quin.

The two look interchangeable to me. Both in avatar and game contribution.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:14 pm Would anyone be available to replace into a mafia game on HCRealms? It’s pretty laid back over there so it’s not a super big commitment. PM me if interested. CBob not invited.

could you PM me the link to this game specifically. I can't play 2 games at once, but I'm interested in observing the culture over there and Jay's game. maybe if it is laid back, I'll sign up to a future game.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:04 pm Quin has taken a lot of flak in this game for being fluffy. I have given Quin flak for being fluffy. I grant though that at least in my case, this has been a perception derived from my own progression through the thread without a thorough dig. So now I dig.

As of right now, Quin has 96 posts.

He made 33 posts during the drafting period. Remove them from consideration (I will at least, you may not be so inclined dear readers). 63 remain.

I would call the following posts fluffy in that they do not progress a hunt in a readily discernible way:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 09#p406909
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 75#p407375
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 01#p407401
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 95#p407595
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 30#p407630
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 42#p407642
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 11#p408511
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 20#p408520
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 09#p409509
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 46#p410046

10 posts.

These posts are self-defense, primarily against accusations of fluff, without an obvious reads-oriented development therein:

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 00#p406900
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 18#p409618
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 31#p410031
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 42#p410042
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 60#p410060
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 73#p410473
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 92#p410492

7 posts.

63 - 10 - 7 = 46

This leaves 46 hunting-relevant posts, or just under half of his present post count and 73% of his non-draft day post count. This is a greater percentage than I anticipated. It isn't lovely and there is still fluff, but it isn't some glaring, terrible thing either. Those who have accused Quin of doing nothing should review this assessment and his posts as well and then report their own conclusions. I would say that it as at least no longer tenable to discard Quin as having done nothing of note. That is inaccurate.

A separate accusation which would be fairer given the data available is that Quin has not engaged anyone substantively. There have been pokes, prods, and jabs -- but no continued investigation of any single thing (that I can readily observe).

So you mean there's a good chance Quin is just being Quin.

meh.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:58 pm What does everyone think of Bob and DDF?


I feel like if one of them is mafia the Pegasus knight under them is mafia as well.

DDF sounds like a cool guy.

Bob looks civ imo.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:01 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:24 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:03 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:00 pm I'm about to go out, but I made it like half way through his ISO. I think he looks relatively good. I understand the Colin vote day one although I didn't agree with the case against him at the time. I'm not into lynching lurkers so early in the game, and that's what he seemed to be trying to move towards at the point I made it to, but maybe he plays it like that. Slight town read.

that's an excellent starting point to ease my worries. Let me go and see how he handled lurker lynches in the Mountains game because I remember nothing (as usual).

I skimmed all 200+ posts of cBob's in Mountains and didn't find any vote on a lurker (except right before he died, he voted for then MIA and inactive sig, but then changed it to Quin as a final vote). He was civ in that game and voting for vocal, active players.

I don't know why I get bad feelings from his voting pattern so far this games and reasoning behind it, especially after Kites kinda echoed what I was thinking this morning.

i'm disappointed no one commented on this. I mean, skimming didn't take me that long, but I did it for a reason.

why is no one else sensing something off in cbob's inactive vote placements and now Iron_Dwarf, he isn't a vocal player, and him asking me "who" he should vote for vs. his voting patterns in Mountains mafia which were unlike this despite there being several lurkers or inactives.

I'm gonna ISO cBob and see how I feel at some point (today? maybe?).

Because you're trying to meta me based off of one game?

Also me asking who I should vote for was a not of a sarcastic response because you apparently didn't like any of my votes because they were for lower post people even though I'd expressed concrete suspicions of everybody except lapluie. And if you noticed I didn't say "who should I vote for" but "who would be an acceptable vote", which is a different question.

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:08 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:33 am

Kenway wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:37 pm Hello, I was here yesterday but the thread got locked.

I still think we should test the public list out, namely lynch sig or lapluie and see if they flip scum.

If sig is scum they have two kills a night, I think it's wise for him to not use it now, he can get trigger-happy later and claim so and so is scummy.

Wait are you advocating the position that on D1 the mod publicly outed two mafia members and 3 townies?

[VOTE: kenway] aubergine

As I've already mentioned, one of the role cards explicitly states that all scum are from Badguyia.

And that does nothing to answer my question.

[VOTE: Iron Dwarf] aubergine

This came up and I liked the points made, especially Nutella's. Then I looked at his ISO and didn't particularly hate it but didn't love it either. Day 1 is mostly smashing Epi for the don exercise thing, then on day 2 he argues a bit more but gets off Epi's back. Coulc be a calculated move to get out of a lynch nobody is interested on anymore. Then a vote on RDW out of nowhere. Lots of "salad", I think. He is contributing, but not in a way that gives me a good vibe.

Right now I think I have much more civ suspicions than bad ones, so this one is one of the slightly bad ones.

I still feel bad about Quin but Jay's posts makes me flinch.

I still wait for Kyle's epic entrance into hunting baddies. Right now I think he's playing exactly like Quin is. Heck, Quin contributed more in Day 2.

Kites has that confused noob aura that is basically a coinflip if you lynch it.

I'm still tinfoiling on Jay, but still leaning civ on him.

Dr. Wilgy needs to come to the playground.

Dr. White also needs to come to the playground. What is this, doctor strike?

I feel bad about LC, but LC has built a meta that makes me feel bad about him every game so I don't know what to do. The "I'm bad thing" is almost like a miller claim. It disarms attempts at reading him.

I feel good about Nutella. Don't want to lynch her.

I'm kind of avoiding Dr. White but it's because every time I invite someone from my site here they go inactive. Soneji has remained the sole succesful case, and not for a long time. So I keep being hopeful about his activity and not wanting to lynch him prematurely.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:28 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:01 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:24 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:03 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:00 pm I'm about to go out, but I made it like half way through his ISO. I think he looks relatively good. I understand the Colin vote day one although I didn't agree with the case against him at the time. I'm not into lynching lurkers so early in the game, and that's what he seemed to be trying to move towards at the point I made it to, but maybe he plays it like that. Slight town read.

that's an excellent starting point to ease my worries. Let me go and see how he handled lurker lynches in the Mountains game because I remember nothing (as usual).

I skimmed all 200+ posts of cBob's in Mountains and didn't find any vote on a lurker (except right before he died, he voted for then MIA and inactive sig, but then changed it to Quin as a final vote). He was civ in that game and voting for vocal, active players.

I don't know why I get bad feelings from his voting pattern so far this games and reasoning behind it, especially after Kites kinda echoed what I was thinking this morning.

i'm disappointed no one commented on this. I mean, skimming didn't take me that long, but I did it for a reason.

why is no one else sensing something off in cbob's inactive vote placements and now Iron_Dwarf, he isn't a vocal player, and him asking me "who" he should vote for vs. his voting patterns in Mountains mafia which were unlike this despite there being several lurkers or inactives.

I'm gonna ISO cBob and see how I feel at some point (today? maybe?).

Because you're trying to meta me based off of one game?

I haven't played many games with you. What's your policy on lynching inactives/low posters as a general rule?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:45 am [VOTE: DUNYA]

this guy gives me attention; get yourselves a guy who gives you this much attention, ladies.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:43 am I'm kind of avoiding Dr. White but it's because every time I invite someone from my site here they go inactive. Soneji has remained the sole succesful case, and not for a long time. So I keep being hopeful about his activity and not wanting to lynch him prematurely.

I PMd him now inviting him to the Interrogation Room. He'll get an email notification. I broke no rules.

I haven't played with [mention]rundontwalk[/mention] in so long, I feel bad I can't place him in a clear civ/scum position. Anyone care to ISO him and tell me what they think? I'll do the same.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:50 am

Spoiler: show

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:28 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:01 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:24 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:03 pm

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:00 pm I'm about to go out, but I made it like half way through his ISO. I think he looks relatively good. I understand the Colin vote day one although I didn't agree with the case against him at the time. I'm not into lynching lurkers so early in the game, and that's what he seemed to be trying to move towards at the point I made it to, but maybe he plays it like that. Slight town read.

that's an excellent starting point to ease my worries. Let me go and see how he handled lurker lynches in the Mountains game because I remember nothing (as usual).

I skimmed all 200+ posts of cBob's in Mountains and didn't find any vote on a lurker (except right before he died, he voted for then MIA and inactive sig, but then changed it to Quin as a final vote). He was civ in that game and voting for vocal, active players.

I don't know why I get bad feelings from his voting pattern so far this games and reasoning behind it, especially after Kites kinda echoed what I was thinking this morning.

i'm disappointed no one commented on this. I mean, skimming didn't take me that long, but I did it for a reason.

why is no one else sensing something off in cbob's inactive vote placements and now Iron_Dwarf, he isn't a vocal player, and him asking me "who" he should vote for vs. his voting patterns in Mountains mafia which were unlike this despite there being several lurkers or inactives.

I'm gonna ISO cBob and see how I feel at some point (today? maybe?).

Because you're trying to meta me based off of one game?

I haven't played many games with you. What's your policy on lynching inactives/low posters as a general rule?

Most games I've played in have been majority lynch games, so lynching inactives is a bit of a double edged sword but generally helps lower majority which helps lynch mafia. Not sure how this experience carries over into plurality vote games.

Low posters, to me, is a bit different, because the easiest way for mafia to avoid being caught in a lie is to post as little as they can get away with. It's also difficult to form reads of people who don't post much. Both of these reasons provide incentive to pressure low posters.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:33 am Also me asking who I should vote for was a not of a sarcastic response because you apparently didn't like any of my votes because they were for lower post people even though I'd expressed concrete suspicions of everybody except lapluie. And if you noticed I didn't say "who should I vote for" but "who would be an acceptable vote", which is a different question.

sorry, are you saying it was sarcastic or not sarcastic?

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:32 am Following JJJ's logic on me I want rundontwalk to explain his behavior. He's not really adding much of value to cases. Hardly any reads at all, no explanation on his JJJ vote.

[VOTE: rundontwalk] aubergine

Also curious about colonialbobs behavior. He seems eager to join a bandwagon on me, then asks dunya who he should vote for, followed by a Kenway vote.

Somebody didn't read the rest of my exchange with JJJ.

if it wasn't sarcasm, colonialbob, I have no intention of dictating who can vote for who, I just based it off my last memory of you in Mountains where you were calling people like Sloonei, Jack, Jay, etc. into suspicion and waffling between rabbit/lap here. Every vote is acceptable, I just found the pattern slightly alarming is all.

p.s. aren't all games "majority lynch" games?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:56 am I haven't played with @rundontwalk in so long, I feel bad I can't place him in a clear civ/scum position. Anyone care to ISO him and tell me what they think? I'll do the same.

If Mac is town it worries me he can tell I'm town and you can't.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:11 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:33 am Also me asking who I should vote for was a not of a sarcastic response because you apparently didn't like any of my votes because they were for lower post people even though I'd expressed concrete suspicions of everybody except lapluie. And if you noticed I didn't say "who should I vote for" but "who would be an acceptable vote", which is a different question.

sorry, are you saying it was sarcastic or not sarcastic?

It was sarcastic.

It was not asking you who I should vote for.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:24 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:21 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:19 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:18 pm no?

I said the exact opposite.

Exactly, but you didn't extend it to me for wanting to give rdw the same role. Explain?

Because it makes more sense that I wouldn't be mafia then rdw.

What? This exchange looks bad for both of you

How did this exchange look bad for both of us?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:17 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:11 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:33 am Also me asking who I should vote for was a not of a sarcastic response because you apparently didn't like any of my votes because they were for lower post people even though I'd expressed concrete suspicions of everybody except lapluie. And if you noticed I didn't say "who should I vote for" but "who would be an acceptable vote", which is a different question.

sorry, are you saying it was sarcastic or not sarcastic?

It was sarcastic.

It was not asking you who I should vote for.

learn do use your sarcasm tags, kthx.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:17 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:56 am I haven't played with @rundontwalk in so long, I feel bad I can't place him in a clear civ/scum position. Anyone care to ISO him and tell me what they think? I'll do the same.

If Mac is town it worries me he can tell I'm town and you can't.

I haven't played with you in 4 years? Excuse my indecisiveness. I've been re-reading the games ProFiction saved though, to refresh my memory.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:16 am if it wasn't sarcasm, colonialbob, I have no intention of dictating who can vote for who, I just based it off my last memory of you in Mountains where you were calling people like Sloonei, Jack, Jay, etc. into suspicion and waffling between rabbit/lap here. Every vote is acceptable, I just found the pattern slightly alarming is all.

p.s. aren't all games "majority lynch" games?

No, this game is what I'd refer to as a plurality lynch, because you don't need a majority of the active players to vote, just the most votes of whoever is voting. If there's 10 players, and 4 vote for A while 3 vote for B and 3 vote for C, A is lynched.

Meanwhile on the Realms most games are what I'd call majority vote (what you might know as hammer vote), where you need over 50% of the active players votes to be lynched. If there's 10 players, A isn't lynched unless they have 6 votes. (Also generally days end early when the clinching (aka hammer) vote is placed).

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:18 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:17 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:11 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:33 am Also me asking who I should vote for was a not of a sarcastic response because you apparently didn't like any of my votes because they were for lower post people even though I'd expressed concrete suspicions of everybody except lapluie. And if you noticed I didn't say "who should I vote for" but "who would be an acceptable vote", which is a different question.

sorry, are you saying it was sarcastic or not sarcastic?

It was sarcastic.

It was not asking you who I should vote for.

learn do use your sarcasm tags, kthx.

Phone posting. But I'll try. Or the emoji, although I sometimes made people mad by doing that.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:20 am

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:17 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:56 am I haven't played with @rundontwalk in so long, I feel bad I can't place him in a clear civ/scum position. Anyone care to ISO him and tell me what they think? I'll do the same.

If Mac is town it worries me he can tell I'm town and you can't.

I haven't played with you in 4 years? Excuse my indecisiveness. I've been re-reading the games ProFiction saved though, to refresh my memory.

I demand decisive action! :P

But seriously, I'm not scum. I promise.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:02 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:13 pm where the heck is @sig ? sig, my man, did you attempt to kill anyone last night?

Nope, I made the tactical decision to wait, I don't feel like we have enough information yet as a group to warrant me making a kill based on what the majority wants in thread, I myself am not confident enough in any mafia reads to let out a kill, and the last group of people I'd commonly vig would be inactive, however with a few replacements lined up I'd rather not waste potential civs.


So whoever submitted or had a major influence over the team is a TS oldie and/or a Pegasus knight.

I cant catch up right now I have to visit a professor and do some school, but I'll be back to catch up.

If anyone has a specific question feel free to mention me and I'll answer asap.

I'm not sure how to read this, but as a Pegasus Knight, I would like to understand. Are you saying that a TS oldie or Pegasus Knight submitted the kill on rabbit?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:30 pmRabbit was inacitve meta of TS vets is to target inactive players as mafia. There's a likely chance whomever killed Rabbit was a TS vet.

Ok, so why point the finger at a Pegasus Knight?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:36 pmlinki 2: It's rather common actually, the most reason example would be over at Buffy I mentioned it never acted on it and two players who commonly do it both turned out to be mafia.

Can you delve into this more, if it's worth it?

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:59 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:35 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 am

Quin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:07 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:00 am Anyone wanna discuss why rabbit8?

To kill a low poster, because scum isn't being strategic with kills, to eliminate the triangle attack mechanic. I'm a fan of the latter. It's the easiest night kill to remove from the pool.

Why not kill Long Con?

Why kill Long Con?

Rabbit was a civilian. He didn't post. No one was gonna protect his ass.

SCUMMMMMMMMMMMMSLIP?????

How do you know LC isn't also a civ?

I don't think I follow the logic here... especially because I think it implies that I'm bad with Marmot or something.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:18 pm I'm caught up :O Amazing
SO

Current civ reads worth noting
Epi
Dunya
Maybe JJJ still tinfoiling here


I don't want to lynch:
TSP
Nutella

I'm looking at
Kenway, for their last post which they haven't addressed yet
Kites, for the random rainbow list and fearmongering
Mac, since he seems like mafia
Iron Dwarf, Dunya gave some good reasoning
Long Con
and Marmot, I want him to answer my questions.


Also besides Quin's post being mainly fluff is there any other reason he might be mafia?

I love that suspecting Long Con doesn't require a qualifier. As though my very existence as Long Con automatically justifies a scum read.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:21 pm dunya, I didn't mean for any of that to sound insulting, and I wasn't judging your personal life. Far from it! I am baffled by how you are able to keep up with everything, not just post a great deal. I know I am a slow reader, and that I like to take my time processing things. I just don't know how you do both so quickly. My mind doesn't function like that, regardless of alignment. And I never thought about you living in Arendelle- that makes a lot of sense.

Me too... I feel like I'm Sloweyes McCan'tRead compared to some of you prolific posters. And I'm... like, an experienced reader. I always read books, growing up. Now most of my reading is Mafia and comic books, lol. Shame on me. Maybe I AM a slow reader now.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:53 pm

Kenway wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:37 pm Hello, I was here yesterday but the thread got locked.

I still think we should test the public list out, namely lynch sig or lapluie and see if they flip scum.

If sig is scum they have two kills a night, I think it's wise for him to not use it now, he can get trigger-happy later and claim so and so is scummy.

This has "ploy" written all over it. I don't know for sure if those two are scum/town but I really don't think that's what's going on in that post, there could be scum in any of the homelands and townies in any of them as well. And I'm not really sure if it's in a mafia vig's best interests to keep quiet for the time being, don't you think this would be the period in the game where it's easiest to get away with mistakenly killing a townie? If I had that role as a scum I'd be trying to thin the ranks, quickly, self-preservation be damned. I think a lot of us were expecting another death today, and it's not like if it had been two townies we'd suddenly be coming at sig with torches and pitchforks. Sorry Kenway but I'm not buying this.

I think the highlighted text is incorrect, all scum are from Badguyia. Right? I DO like that I read this mistake as Civvish though. Colin is relatively green to me based on that. If he were bad, he'd probably know they're all from Badguyia. ORRRRR he's trickin' me good with a fakeslip.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:35 am nutella keeps operating in my shadow. So unfortunate.

JJJ and nutella... I get the feeling that they're not w/w.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:16 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:35 am nutella keeps operating in my shadow. So unfortunate.

"Disgusting"

This has my vote for "favourite new meme" of 2018. Every time I see it, as long as it's in quotation marks, it's like a Tony Stark clip plays in my head. Each time my eyes move to it, the clip plays again, as though it's on the computer screen and I'm replaying it each time.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:29 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:23 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm It should be noted that these misdirections are largely targeted to a random other player. This isn't like a bus drive wherein the new target is specifically selected.

Well whoever misdirected me, thanks...now we have no idea who I targeted and wasted a positive ID.

How do you know you were misdirected?

I especifically asked Jack what yould happen if I misdirected you and he told me you would never notice. You'd just get wrong results.

I'm curious: knowing I'm an ID cop, why did you misdirect me? You've repeatedly claimed you think I'm Civ.

Yes! I had to randomly misdirect someone last night, and I specifically looked through the roles to see which would do the least harm. I certainly avoided trackers, protectors... I seem to recall that most roles left a bad taste in my mouth to redirect randomly. Then I got to Mage: "Fire - Each night, you may target another player and reverse their action. A nightkill will become a doctor, a guide will become a block, a track will become a reverse track, etc." And I figured the random, chaotic nature of that power meant that randomizing it wouldn't be as disruptive as many others.

[mention]Iron_Dwarf[/mention] You are the Knight, whose jailkeeping resolves a day late. Who is getting jailkept tonight?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:57 am

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:41 pm wait what if sprityo is ring?

Nice catch.

Someone should vig him imo.

Sorry for not getting it, can you explain this nice catch please?

If Sprityo is ring he roleblocks the entire town when killed (delaying our investigations and giving easy kills to the mafia) which makes him a primary candidate for bussing. So his insistence on being an easy lynch (the kind of thing that usually makes people want to lynch you more) and posts that suggest he doesn't care about it could be an attempt to be lynched.

Granted, this is subjective, and Sprityo could just be misinterpreted. But even then, the ring is a player who should be trying to be lynched before their teammates.

Long Con, I’m really not sure. I think that the scum are given fakeclaims anyway, though, and I have a hard time seeing why the host would information like that if it was that obvious. In general I’m definitely more inclined to vote based on behavior, and not by testing the mechanics.

So with that in mind - the Dr. White/Iron_Dwarf draft situation, and subsequent behavior of each, doesn’t sit right with me. My vote is tentative, because I’d really love to hear from Dr. White, but for now...

[VOTE: IRON_DWARF] aubergine

aubergine

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:45 pmSo his insistence on being an easy lynch (the kind of thing that usually makes people want to lynch you more)

I don't agree with this. It didn't make me want to lynch him more... has that been a thing? I don't recall any drive to lynch sprityo, but y'all post a lot so maybe I just don't remember?