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Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:24 pm
by abyssum
hello highposters

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:25 pm
by MacDougall
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:19 pm Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?
Because she’s town lol
Why?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:25 pm
by Epignosis
Big Generator it is. :guitar:

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:26 pm
by MacDougall
CFD Jay

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:26 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:00 pm i could stake my reputation on Mac and Luna being town in this game because i don't have any reputation to speak of. BAM
I have kept count of your reputation so far, and you're already close to seven so be careful.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:27 pm
by abyssum
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:26 pm
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:00 pm i could stake my reputation on Mac and Luna being town in this game because i don't have any reputation to speak of. BAM
I have kept count of your reputation so far, and you're already close to seven so be careful.
shit. that's somewhat more than six

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:27 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:26 pmCFD Jay
Thoughtful rebuttal

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:28 pm
by ColinIsCool
I think scum Luna would have felt more pressure to be on a relevant wagon. I suck at reading Luna, but this feels right.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:26 pmCFD Jay
Thoughtful rebuttal
:haha:

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:19 pm Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?
I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:31 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:19 pm Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?
I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?
I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:32 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:19 pm Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?
I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?
I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.
Understood. I felt the same way for a moment during the GTH exercise.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:35 pm
by Tsaiah
Hai, off work again and caught up

Re: Robot being awol, i don't have much meta with her, but i have seen her disappear when life eats her as both alignments, fwiw (she did show back up when we maf'd together in order to not let her slot get modkilled for inactivity--that was in lategame when scum was getting pretty close to winning).

Her interactions do sound like they have potential, hard to dig for anything more when she isn't here. I don't think I'd be surprised at either flip, tbh.


Re: everything Abyssum just said about Luna, agree completely. I keep feeling like alien had her down for a designated suspect, wanted to encourage potential sus there, and then flipped his read on her on a dime when she tr'd him, bc at that point he desperately needed allies.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:36 pm
by abyssum
tsaiah as a subject is something i need to put on my big girl brain pants for

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:37 pm
by Tangrowth
Alright I'm here and on laptop. Give me a few minutes though.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:38 pm
by abyssum
hey [mention]Tsaiah[/mention] do you have some Words you could lend me about why you were eager for my response to Jay's post about my + alien's reads lists?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 pm
by MacDougall
Given I know for sure that Turnip Head is a civilian, it is a mathematically certainty that one or all of the Mafia are currently on the Robot wagon.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I'm at a point right now where it feels very much like both of them are in this pile:

Robot
DH
sprityo
Marmot
TH
Luna

A lot hinges on the results of this lynch, and I'm not going to get comfortable, but the more I think over the state of the game the more clearly it seems to fall together. We probably need a 6-player POO and that's where I'm at.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:40 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 pm Given I know for sure that Turnip Head is a civilian, it is a mathematically certainty that one or all of the Mafia are currently on the Robot wagon.
At the likely numbers arrangements I am wary of a godfather.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:41 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
If I had to point to someone outside my POO as a "scary" slot, it'd be Colin. I think the interactions worked well for him, but not without some room for questions.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:41 pm
by MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:40 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 pm Given I know for sure that Turnip Head is a civilian, it is a mathematically certainty that one or all of the Mafia are currently on the Robot wagon.
At the likely numbers arrangements I am wary of a godfather.
The existence of a Godfather is a certainty. The chances of having already cop scanned him are quite low though.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:43 pm
by Lunalee
Looks like Robot is getting lynched. I'm down.
[VOTE: RobotNerd277] aubergine

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm
by abyssum
TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm
by Tsaiah
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:19 pm Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?
I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?
I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.
It's fine, I'll get a more definitive read on you if you don't let me be forgotten about. ;3

Work eats me extra bad on the weekends (and sleeping less than i already do just isn't a viable option, if i'm gonna be functional enough there to retain gainful employment. xD) I no-choice slept enough last night that I'll probably be able to stay up a little to work on the game tonight, should be able to devote some more time to it after work tomorrow, and then I'm off for two days (yay!)

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Poor Turnip Head.

Image

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm
by Lunalee
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:39 pm I'm at a point right now where it feels very much like both of them are in this pile:

Robot
DH
sprityo
Marmot
TH
Luna

A lot hinges on the results of this lynch, and I'm not going to get comfortable, but the more I think over the state of the game the more clearly it seems to fall together. We probably need a 6-player POO and that's where I'm at.
How so? If Robot flips scum, who should we go after next? And if Robot flips town, who should we go after next?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:47 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:02 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:25 pm Alright, so I think RobotNerd is spewed town (yay TMI) by Alien, and this alone is why she is placed in moderate town. The way Alien talks about Robot also reads very similarly to the way scum Alien talked about a low hanging fruit townie (dichotomousCreator) in wild cards 1, and I originally thought that as well, but then we ended up MLing him anyway because he independently looked scummy. I'd hesitate to make that mistake again here. Nonetheless we must consider Robot on her own merits and consider the possibility that Alien was defending a teammate here.
Could you talk more about the things that specifically had you feeling this way, even if you don't have the same perspective right now?
Uhh so I spoke to this somewhat already but basically I mostly recalled and reviewed Alien's treatment of Robot at the end of Day 1, and that's what was causing my interpretation primarily. When reviewed holistically, I agreed more with your overall conclusions.

I hope this answers your question. Does it?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:47 pm
by abyssum
oh hi

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm
by Tangrowth
Jay, that's not what Turnip Head looks like.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Lunalee wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm How so? If Robot flips scum, who should we go after next? And if Robot flips town, who should we go after next?
I don't know yet. If it's a town flip though I'm going to feel the need to shake it up. She seems the most obvious, and if the most obvious one is wrong then I am not going to just sit on my POO pool without digging into everything again with new eyes.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm
by Tsaiah
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO
I'M RIGHT HERE XD

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm
by abyssum
Tsaiah wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:29 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:19 pm Someone tell me why Tsaiah has been given a town pass?
I wouldn't say I've given her a "pass", but I did think her alien interactions were mostly good. And she seems genuine. Do you have a beef?
I cannot shake the feeling that she is coasting by on the fact that MP town cleared her on like the second page and as a result has really just let the game float by. It is not a good argument at all, I just have my doubts.
It's fine, I'll get a more definitive read on you if you don't let me be forgotten about. ;3

Work eats me extra bad on the weekends (and sleeping less than i already do just isn't a viable option, if i'm gonna be functional enough there to retain gainful employment. xD) I no-choice slept enough last night that I'll probably be able to stay up a little to work on the game tonight, should be able to devote some more time to it after work tomorrow, and then I'm off for two days (yay!)
tsaiah why aren't you Team Mac yet. hey tsaiah. why arent you team mac

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:49 pm
by Tangrowth
This is Turnip Head:

Image

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:49 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I'm familiar with Miyazaki. :meany:

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:50 pm
by Tangrowth
Mac I've already spoken at length as to why I think Tsaiah is town. I've continued to reassess her. What specifically do you want to engage with me about it?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:50 pm
by abyssum
Tsaiah wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO
I'M RIGHT HERE XD

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod
WHY NOT PRE-EOD.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:50 pm
by abyssum
mac i am dedicated to this team so i'll read Tsaiah for you ok? ok.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:51 pm
by Tangrowth
Honestly I have other things to attend to, sorry guys. I'll still be here off and on until EOD but I won't be able to do much.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:52 pm
by Tsaiah
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:38 pm hey @Tsaiah do you have some Words you could lend me about why you were eager for my response to Jay's post about my + alien's reads lists?
Because i expected your response to probably be towny af, and also potentially amusing :3

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 pm
by abyssum
like clearly if robot is town we should do a big old reassessment party (more GTH plz?) but also it's going to send me down the sprityo rabbit hole at least somewhat

there's no confirmation that it's 3 mafia, right?

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
M Plus 7 wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:02 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:25 pm Alright, so I think RobotNerd is spewed town (yay TMI) by Alien, and this alone is why she is placed in moderate town. The way Alien talks about Robot also reads very similarly to the way scum Alien talked about a low hanging fruit townie (dichotomousCreator) in wild cards 1, and I originally thought that as well, but then we ended up MLing him anyway because he independently looked scummy. I'd hesitate to make that mistake again here. Nonetheless we must consider Robot on her own merits and consider the possibility that Alien was defending a teammate here.
Could you talk more about the things that specifically had you feeling this way, even if you don't have the same perspective right now?
Uhh so I spoke to this somewhat already but basically I mostly recalled and reviewed Alien's treatment of Robot at the end of Day 1, and that's what was causing my interpretation primarily. When reviewed holistically, I agreed more with your overall conclusions.

I hope this answers your question. Does it?
I'd have to look over that material and then glance at the dC stuff from your other game to get a better idea. For the moment it'll do.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:56 pm
by Kylemii
when do we find out if we are assholes or not

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:56 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:55 pm like clearly if robot is town we should do a big old reassessment party (more GTH plz?) but also it's going to send me down the sprityo rabbit hole at least somewhat

there's no confirmation that it's 3 mafia, right?
Right. That's my assumption. Other numbers create weird balance scenarios, but they're possible. I'd say that if heist tradition is followed, 3 mafia is >90% likely.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:56 pm
by Tsaiah
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:50 pm
Tsaiah wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO
I'M RIGHT HERE XD

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod
WHY NOT PRE-EOD.
a) it's a bunch of different things i gotta dig back up from when i was quickly and sleepily catching up on the way to work
b) i'm on mobile trying not to get rained on while i wait for a ride home from work

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:58 pm
by abyssum
Tsaiah wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:56 pm
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:50 pm
Tsaiah wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:48 pm
abyssum wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:46 pm TSAIAH WHERE'D YOU GO
I'M RIGHT HERE XD

I have a veritable shitton of stuff i wanna talk with you about too, post-eod
WHY NOT PRE-EOD.
a) it's a bunch of different things i gotta dig back up from when i was quickly and sleepily catching up on the way to work
b) i'm on mobile trying not to get rained on while i wait for a ride home from work
...fine. I GUESS.

i might have questions for you too now that i'm more strongly digging into your iso

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:00 pm
by Russtifinko
Things I need clarified:

What "TMI" and "CFD" are.
What a "godfather" is.

I guess that's all. I feel like this whole thread is just waiting for today to be over.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by Tangrowth
If Robot flips town, my reads are basically garbage and will all be reassessed.

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by Lunalee
Kylemii wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:56 pm when do we find out if we are assholes or not
I think we already are. New Syndicate motto seems to be:
"Come play mafia on our site! New players get lynched first!"

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by Tsaiah
NEVER lynch Aby. Hardlocking it, staking my reputation, etc (and my rep for always reading them correctly)

Their behavior toward me at BOTH eods is 100% purest of pure town aby xD

Re: DFS Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:01 pm
by abyssum
Russtifinko wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:00 pm Things I need clarified:

What "TMI" and "CFD" are.
What a "godfather" is.

I guess that's all. I feel like this whole thread is just waiting for today to be over.
TMI=too much information. "X is TMIing Y" is like, scum!X is townreading town!Y or something along those lines
CFD=chinese fire drill, u vote people really fast and kill them right at eod

godfather=mafia who shows up as town to cops