Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Hey we can also be Masons in other games we play together too!falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:47 amDo it. We'll be Mason pals for life...or at least until the end of this game
setting aside the likely situation where grogu hasn't read anything all game...
Why are you assuming that Grogu is being honest? Look at my push of Alison, tell me you don't believe that I checked herUrist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:56 amsetting aside the likely situation where grogu hasn't read anything all game...
let's say that grogu watches alison and sees only falcon visit her.
even if he's paying close attention and gleans the fact that falcon role-copped alison, why would that make him a wolf in grogu's eyes? that doesn't make any sense. the more rational action for grogu to take there is to back falcon up, not call him a wolf.
No. More like I was annoyed why you were pushing me since I am town and claimed as such. Then I targeted you and there’s something you not telling us. So I now know you are scum based on this. Therefore I want to kill you now, you picked on the baby but I have powers and I will end you. Kindlyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:18 amDo tell.
Lemme guess, your scum chat has told you I've been calling you out for days now, and you'd better make a soft claim re: his role?
I'm all ears dude. This'll be good
What did you do last night. What action did you use on Alison?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:27 amAs far as I can see, Grogu hasn't said I'm 100% guilty of. I'd like to hear what he has to say I'm guilty of first.
you didn't start pushing the idea that she was the slaver until after she claimed, so yeah I find it hard to believe that you had a guilty result on her at the start of day.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 amWhy are you assuming that Grogu is being honest? Look at my push of Alison, tell me you don't believe that I checked herUrist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:56 amsetting aside the likely situation where grogu hasn't read anything all game...
let's say that grogu watches alison and sees only falcon visit her.
even if he's paying close attention and gleans the fact that falcon role-copped alison, why would that make him a wolf in grogu's eyes? that doesn't make any sense. the more rational action for grogu to take there is to back falcon up, not call him a wolf.
thanks!
How do you know I was pushing you? I've made roughly 5 posts about you, you read all that catch up in your short time? Also, you're saying I pushed you BEFORE your action, which is why you targeted me, but let's take a look at my ISO and see how often I pushed you before last NF.Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:20 pmNo. More like I was annoyed why you were pushing me since I am town and claimed as such. Then I targeted you and there’s something you not telling us. So I now know you are scum based on this. Therefore I want to kill you now, you picked on the baby but I have powers and I will end you. Kindlyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:18 amDo tell.
Lemme guess, your scum chat has told you I've been calling you out for days now, and you'd better make a soft claim re: his role?
I'm all ears dude. This'll be good
Oh so it was a check? Hmm that kinda makes sense. Nvmfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:58 amWhy are you assuming that Grogu is being honest? Look at my push of Alison, tell me you don't believe that I checked herUrist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:56 amsetting aside the likely situation where grogu hasn't read anything all game...
let's say that grogu watches alison and sees only falcon visit her.
even if he's paying close attention and gleans the fact that falcon role-copped alison, why would that make him a wolf in grogu's eyes? that doesn't make any sense. the more rational action for grogu to take there is to back falcon up, not call him a wolf.
He does not. I repeat, if I am Slaver I have no incentive to flip Falcon because once he flips investigative I lose the game immediately. 3Ps want to survive at all cost, and confirming the person who checked them as being town is a death knell. Falcon is scum, and he's locked into claiming a red check on me so he's trying to suicide bomb me.
Did he claimed a check or some other info?Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:30 pmHe does not. I repeat, if I am Slaver I have no incentive to flip Falcon because once he flips investigative I lose the game immediately. 3Ps want to survive at all cost, and confirming the person who checked them as being town is a death knell. Falcon is scum, and he's locked into claiming a red check on me so he's trying to suicide bomb me.
He has refused to claim anything. Probably because he doesn't want to accidentally contradict whatever info you have and reveal himself to be a liar.Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:32 pmDid he claimed a check or some other info?Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:30 pmHe does not. I repeat, if I am Slaver I have no incentive to flip Falcon because once he flips investigative I lose the game immediately. 3Ps want to survive at all cost, and confirming the person who checked them as being town is a death knell. Falcon is scum, and he's locked into claiming a red check on me so he's trying to suicide bomb me.
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:11 pmHow does Grogu know what team Mac is on?
Why is Grogu voting Essoa?
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:22 pmJack is lynch worthy IMO.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:19 pminteresting. i feel like the game is still enough in the early stages (ie: less than 24 hours in) for me to feel a bit uncomfortable with getting anything alignment indicative out of a persons lack of interest in the game - especially if i don't have a frame of reference for how active/invested they typically are. i think your reasoning against him is useful in the sense that it sounds self-resolving - if he is trying to avoid being ~tone busted~, then it's probably going to become more obvious in the next ~24 hoursish if he continues to show any lack of investment or interestfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:14 pmI wouldn't call him "high-activity" per se, but he's more than capable of contributing far more than he has thus far, and def capable of trying to solve, again something he's not doing this game.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:13 pmis boknows usually a high-activity player when he's town?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:12 pmHe's struggling to get involved in the game, I suspect cuz' he's concerned about getting tone busted by Kaz & I as he was in Spiderverse. So, he's electing to barely participate as a means of avoiding the same scenario.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:09 pmboknow's iso in spiderverse is full of pointless questions that go nowhere and overly confident reads that come off like TMIfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:58 pm
Check out his ISO from the Spiderverse game to this game, tell me what you think.
boknow's iso in this game contains zero reads and zero questions
the main similarity is that his tone in both of those games is laid-back/relaxed - but i struggle to see that as being more alignment indicative than it is personality indicative
i don't think he's posted enough in this game for that type of comparison to work
anyone else youre actively worried about right now?
Grogu is also lookin' slimey
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:29 pmGrogu's comment to mac about "sorry we're not on the same team" is one thing, his vote on Alison w/ no reasoning is another.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:26 pmwhy is grogu lookin' slimey? is it just the lack of content? i thought his early posts were fine even if they lacked substancefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:22 pmJack is lynch worthy IMO.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:19 pminteresting. i feel like the game is still enough in the early stages (ie: less than 24 hours in) for me to feel a bit uncomfortable with getting anything alignment indicative out of a persons lack of interest in the game - especially if i don't have a frame of reference for how active/invested they typically are. i think your reasoning against him is useful in the sense that it sounds self-resolving - if he is trying to avoid being ~tone busted~, then it's probably going to become more obvious in the next ~24 hoursish if he continues to show any lack of investment or interestfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:14 pmI wouldn't call him "high-activity" per se, but he's more than capable of contributing far more than he has thus far, and def capable of trying to solve, again something he's not doing this game.staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:13 pmis boknows usually a high-activity player when he's town?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:12 pm
He's struggling to get involved in the game, I suspect cuz' he's concerned about getting tone busted by Kaz & I as he was in Spiderverse. So, he's electing to barely participate as a means of avoiding the same scenario.
anyone else youre actively worried about right now?
Grogu is also lookin' slimey
Rej is another player I'm suspect of as well
This post has more to do with Urist town reading Grogu off limited posts than how I feel about Grogu
No, I voted for you so you lose your intimidator ability, no pretext. I know you're a Slaver. Nice try tho, you are putting up a valiant effort.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:29 pm Falcon's actions do not make sense as a check.
He voted me on the pretext that he thought I was TMI-ing the existence of Metzger. He did not vote me at the start of the Day and he did not vote me after I made my claim.
If you tracked him to me (or watched him visiting me), it's more than likely he was performing a scum action on me.
This is not how cops with a red check act. If you are a cop you have a red check and town is falsely clearing your target/insisting on chopping something else, you claim and get them back on track. You do not sit around and park a vote on them so they will not get one less vote 3 day phases later.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:37 pmNo, I voted for you so you lose your intimidator ability, no pretext. I know you're a Slaver. Nice try tho, you are putting up a valiant effort.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:29 pm Falcon's actions do not make sense as a check.
He voted me on the pretext that he thought I was TMI-ing the existence of Metzger. He did not vote me at the start of the Day and he did not vote me after I made my claim.
If you tracked him to me (or watched him visiting me), it's more than likely he was performing a scum action on me.
No you didn't.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:38 pm I didn't say I had info that proves you're Metzger, I have info that proves you're Slaver. I gleaned you're Metzger when you claimed the day vig
What is that?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:37 pmNo, I voted for you so you lose your intimidator ability, no pretext. I know you're a Slaver. Nice try tho, you are putting up a valiant effort.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:29 pm Falcon's actions do not make sense as a check.
He voted me on the pretext that he thought I was TMI-ing the existence of Metzger. He did not vote me at the start of the Day and he did not vote me after I made my claim.
If you tracked him to me (or watched him visiting me), it's more than likely he was performing a scum action on me.
This is why I didn’t believe it at first. But what if they want to be sneaky?Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:39 pmThis is not how cops with a red check act. If you are a cop you have a red check and town is falsely clearing your target/insisting on chopping something else, you claim and get them back on track. You do not sit around and park a vote on them so they will not get one less vote 3 day phases later.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:37 pmNo, I voted for you so you lose your intimidator ability, no pretext. I know you're a Slaver. Nice try tho, you are putting up a valiant effort.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:29 pm Falcon's actions do not make sense as a check.
He voted me on the pretext that he thought I was TMI-ing the existence of Metzger. He did not vote me at the start of the Day and he did not vote me after I made my claim.
If you tracked him to me (or watched him visiting me), it's more than likely he was performing a scum action on me.
So I visited you to roleblock you? How did your day vig go thru then if I role blocked you? Eldridge doesn't have an unblockable day vig.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:26 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
Grogu says he's lying. I say he's lying. Flip him and clear me. If I am Slaver then his flipping investigative outs me and I lose the game, so I have nothing to gain from flipping him if I am Slaver. If Falcon is cop then he should be more than happy to flip and out me and Grogu. No town would balk at trading their lives for two scum.
Only need to interrupt the cycle once. I've been pushing you for a lynch, but nobody else sees it. Perhaps now they will.
You know perfectly well that your push was never going to convince anyone. Anyone with two functional eyeballs could see that the exe today was going to be either Chop or Rej. You have no reason to allow a Slaver to live, especially when you could easily be killed in the night before you could out your results.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:45 pmOnly need to interrupt the cycle once. I've been pushing you for a lynch, but nobody else sees it. Perhaps now they will.
You are a Slaver. 'Nuff said.
You're a Slaver, that's all I know. It seems your argument against this is that I should know exactly which Slaver, but alas I do not. Just that you're a Slaver.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:53 pmYou know perfectly well that your push was never going to convince anyone. Anyone with two functional eyeballs could see that the exe today was going to be either Chop or Rej. You have no reason to allow a Slaver to live, especially when you could easily be killed in the night before you could out your results.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:45 pmOnly need to interrupt the cycle once. I've been pushing you for a lynch, but nobody else sees it. Perhaps now they will.
You are a Slaver. 'Nuff said.
Here's the big clincher.
You've said your night action told you I was a slaver, but not that I was Metzger, right?
What role are you exactly? Because I went through a list of all the cops in the game, and not a single one of them would give you that exact information. Westin only confirms if someone is New Reno or not. Luke tells you if someone has targeted the Slaver, but not if they're the Slaver themselves. Dan McGrew is told if a player is Jagged Jimmy J. John Bishop is told if a player is with the NCR. Orville Wright is told a player's exact role - which means you would know in advance which Slaver I was. AHS-9 would confirm what type of ability I had, or if I had multiple, but not my faction. Every other investigative ability can only be brought into play Night 2 or later (eg. those dispensed by inventors).
So yeah, you tell me, Falcon - what role do you have that would tell you I was a Slaver but not which Slaver I was on Night 1?
This is not true.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:58 pm That is mechanically impossible. I repeat, it is mechanically impossible for an investigative role to know that someone is a Slaver but not which. Falcon has been outed.
Check the list of cops for yourself if you don't believe me. Not a single one of 'em says the faction but not the exact role.
I am town and claimed as such, new best lineGrogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:20 pmNo. More like I was annoyed why you were pushing me since I am town and claimed as such. Then I targeted you and there’s something you not telling us. So I now know you are scum based on this. Therefore I want to kill you now, you picked on the baby but I have powers and I will end you. Kindlyfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:18 amDo tell.
Lemme guess, your scum chat has told you I've been calling you out for days now, and you'd better make a soft claim re: his role?
I'm all ears dude. This'll be good
Technically Westin would confirm whether or not you're the slaver, since Eldridge is from New Reno. That would also explain why he didn't suspect you until after you claimed dayvig.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:53 pm What role are you exactly? Because I went through a list of all the cops in the game, and not a single one of them would give you that exact information. Westin only confirms if someone is New Reno or not. Luke tells you if someone has targeted the Slaver, but not if they're the Slaver themselves. Dan McGrew is told if a player is Jagged Jimmy J. John Bishop is told if a player is with the NCR. Orville Wright is told a player's exact role - which means you would know in advance which Slaver I was. AHS-9 would confirm what type of ability I had, or if I had multiple, but not my faction. Every other investigative ability can only be brought into play Night 2 or later (eg. those dispensed by inventors).
but they can check whether you /are/ eldridgeAlison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:58 pm That is mechanically impossible. I repeat, it is mechanically impossible for an investigative role to know that someone is a Slaver but not which. Falcon has been outed.
Check the list of cops for yourself if you don't believe me. Not a single one of 'em says the faction but not the exact role.
toany mindmeldUrist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:11 pmTechnically Westin would confirm whether or not you're the slaver, since Eldridge is from New Reno. That would also explain why he didn't suspect you until after you claimed dayvig.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:53 pm What role are you exactly? Because I went through a list of all the cops in the game, and not a single one of them would give you that exact information. Westin only confirms if someone is New Reno or not. Luke tells you if someone has targeted the Slaver, but not if they're the Slaver themselves. Dan McGrew is told if a player is Jagged Jimmy J. John Bishop is told if a player is with the NCR. Orville Wright is told a player's exact role - which means you would know in advance which Slaver I was. AHS-9 would confirm what type of ability I had, or if I had multiple, but not my faction. Every other investigative ability can only be brought into play Night 2 or later (eg. those dispensed by inventors).
@falcon45ca are you claiming Westin?
things that may or may not have aged poorlySloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:17 amI do not read this as falcon indicating he has information on alison. I read it as him misunderstanding the context of what Alison was saying and then running with it.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:14 amThere's only one Slaver role guaranteed, and Alison is assuming that it's Metzger. It's TMI, I'd bet good caps that's her role.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:11 amelaboratefalcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:09 amCool, so Alison is prolly Metzger
But Falcon said he came into the day phase knowing I was exactly Slaver, and only thought I was Metzger after I claimed dayvig.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:14 pmbut they can check whether you /are/ eldridgeAlison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:58 pm That is mechanically impossible. I repeat, it is mechanically impossible for an investigative role to know that someone is a Slaver but not which. Falcon has been outed.
Check the list of cops for yourself if you don't believe me. Not a single one of 'em says the faction but not the exact role.
Westin wouldn't care about the slaver being aliveUrist wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:11 pmTechnically Westin would confirm whether or not you're the slaver, since Eldridge is from New Reno. That would also explain why he didn't suspect you until after you claimed dayvig.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:53 pm What role are you exactly? Because I went through a list of all the cops in the game, and not a single one of them would give you that exact information. Westin only confirms if someone is New Reno or not. Luke tells you if someone has targeted the Slaver, but not if they're the Slaver themselves. Dan McGrew is told if a player is Jagged Jimmy J. John Bishop is told if a player is with the NCR. Orville Wright is told a player's exact role - which means you would know in advance which Slaver I was. AHS-9 would confirm what type of ability I had, or if I had multiple, but not my faction. Every other investigative ability can only be brought into play Night 2 or later (eg. those dispensed by inventors).
@falcon45ca are you claiming Westin?
