Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Why are you getting all aggro and personal because I am scum reading you? Go cry to the mod. I've done nothing wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm I also want to make you look bad because you are legit making me angry.
But that is not related to the game.
I'm not gonna look again, I have a better use for my time.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pmFirst one is an analysis of an end of day specifically. The second one doesn't count at all. Third one, what is the exercise you are talking about?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:09 pmDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:02 am Took a quick review of EoD3:
- Nutella and Eoi look great
- Speedchuck looks off for jumping on Wilgy to save himself nstead of Jay. Could see a Jay/Speed team-up.
- Bob looks Eh. He dropped out of the Jay thing when people started doing t, but jumped in again when they started coming bck. Jack looks similar to Bob in that regard.
- Eloh looks bad too.
- Sloonei looks awful. I bet he has the worst vote tracking out of anyone this game. The way he kept doing 180º turns on Jay, and those turns matched the flow of the thread is pingy as fuck, and also looks artificial. I'm only second doubting it because it threads close to "so bad it's good" territory, I actually doubt a true bad Sloonei would goof that hard. The Night 3 lynch feels similar too.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:10 am If Wilgy is a civ, Gman and Never look terrible from the last lynch.
I want to lynch Never.
Also holy shit Gengar. Mafia surely has been feeding each other powers.Civ in all three games.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:57 pm Let's do the thing I proposed myself:
Wilgy: the guy seems to be playing similarly to how MM does. Which is really weird. He asked some useful questions in the game, and shows some mild interest in hunting baddies, but his methods are questionable. I don't get his exercise, it looks like an attempt of spotting protagonists, and honestly I think we should avoid that. I guess that's a neutral read.
FZ: I liked her way of playing until now, she has been agressive yet considering all options. Not much to say other than a civ read.
kneel4justice: similar to FZ, but with a bigger post volume. His posts are huge, he talks about everyone, he seems to be changing his opinions a lot. Also he voted Enrique but I haven't seen him talking about Enrique a lot in this day 2? Do you still read him as mafia? Anyway, he is playing the kind of game a baddie could hide behind, but that's a longshot. For now, slight civ read.
Metalmarsh: Between him and WIlgy, I think Wilgy is being the more productive one. MM has said barely nothing useful. But he looks suspicious every single game. That said, I've seen him make some productive posts before, and his last few seem to be an attempt at that. I need to see more. Neutral read for now.
I hope you enjoy your salad.
Thanks for going to the effort.
I don't need the mod. I'm just saying I'm angry. I have that right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:15 pmWhy are you getting all aggro and personal because I am scum reading you? Go cry to the mod. I've done nothing wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm I also want to make you look bad because you are legit making me angry.
But that is not related to the game.
Angry and making a point of telling me I'm bad at Mafia because I made a case on you.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:16 pmI don't need the mod. I'm just saying I'm angry. I have that right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:15 pmWhy are you getting all aggro and personal because I am scum reading you? Go cry to the mod. I've done nothing wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm I also want to make you look bad because you are legit making me angry.
But that is not related to the game.
If you need people to talk to mods to vent their rage before posting so you have an easier time reading their posts, it's your problem not mine.
I needed someone to do it so I could vote for him.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:17 pm RDW, why would you vote for DDL before Mac even presents his case? Are you really tunneling Mac that hard?
No, but i'm telling you that you have a thing against my playstyle. It's not the first time you went civ/civ against me in early game. Maybe check that because it's hurting your ability to scumhunt me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:17 pmAngry and making a point of telling me I'm bad at Mafia because I made a case on you.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:16 pmI don't need the mod. I'm just saying I'm angry. I have that right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:15 pmWhy are you getting all aggro and personal because I am scum reading you? Go cry to the mod. I've done nothing wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm I also want to make you look bad because you are legit making me angry.
But that is not related to the game.
If you need people to talk to mods to vent their rage before posting so you have an easier time reading their posts, it's your problem not mine.
Right, but he didn’t even wait for your rationale, I laughed pretty hard at that actually.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:18 pmI needed someone to do it so I could vote for him.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:17 pm RDW, why would you vote for DDL before Mac even presents his case? Are you really tunneling Mac that hard?
Sorry I suck at finding things, but I'm pretty sure I've done those before.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:19 pm hmm like Mac I am unsatisfied by the first two examples DDL gave -- they are more concrete reads. the third one is much more similar to the post here that's being criticized in that they are more noncommittal/neutral reads.
also just because he can point to games where he did something similar as a civ doesn't mean he's civ here... ugh I don't know if I feel strongly enough about this to vote for him though, I've felt good about him until mac pointed out that salad, but his Iron_Dwarf vote followed by that post looks really bad in isolation imo. I'll try rereading him and see how I feel.
Maybe just say that without all the angry personal shit. I haven't played a game with you in ages and don't have a Jay like memory.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:18 pmNo, but i'm telling you that you have a thing against my playstyle. It's not the first time you went civ/civ against me in early game. Maybe check that because it's hurting your ability to scumhunt me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:17 pmAngry and making a point of telling me I'm bad at Mafia because I made a case on you.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:16 pmI don't need the mod. I'm just saying I'm angry. I have that right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:15 pmWhy are you getting all aggro and personal because I am scum reading you? Go cry to the mod. I've done nothing wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm I also want to make you look bad because you are legit making me angry.
But that is not related to the game.
If you need people to talk to mods to vent their rage before posting so you have an easier time reading their posts, it's your problem not mine.
Pass. You are the one who chose to have a playstyle that makes other people mad. If you don't want to get burned, don't walk all over the playground with a torch in your hand.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:20 pmMaybe just say that without all the angry personal shit. I haven't played a game with you in ages and don't have a Jay like memory.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:18 pmNo, but i'm telling you that you have a thing against my playstyle. It's not the first time you went civ/civ against me in early game. Maybe check that because it's hurting your ability to scumhunt me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:17 pmAngry and making a point of telling me I'm bad at Mafia because I made a case on you.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:16 pmI don't need the mod. I'm just saying I'm angry. I have that right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:15 pmWhy are you getting all aggro and personal because I am scum reading you? Go cry to the mod. I've done nothing wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm I also want to make you look bad because you are legit making me angry.
But that is not related to the game.
If you need people to talk to mods to vent their rage before posting so you have an easier time reading their posts, it's your problem not mine.
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:42 pm Okay so I'm 13 pages in and I'm getting sleepy. When I get sleepy I get stupid. I'll read the rest tomorrow.
I'll leave a "rainbow":
quin - civ
speed - civ
eloh - civ
bob - civ
LC - bad
nutella - bad
jack - bad
sprityo - bad
rest - neutral/idk
linki: holy shit Sloonei you ninja'd me
Another two from Mountain. This is one of my active games in this site recently so it's easier to find it here.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:04 pm I don't feel like lynching Wilgy. He doesn't make me feel any suspicion.
I feel some suspicion on Malakim on the other hand.
But now I don't wanna betray my civ Jay theory. Even though i'm also betraying my bad Jay theory to begin with.
Yeah you’re definitely orange level, Quin toes the line bewteeen yellow and orange.rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:28 pmLol. I reject this out of hand. It's simply not possible that you think I'm more scummy than Quin. Try againgwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:05 pm 85% gut reads. Can't be bothered to write up cases on anyone or do any more reading. Doesn't help me much at all.
gwilikers6
dunya
TonyStarkPrime
colonialbob
Dr. White
Epignosis
Kenway
Kylemii
Long Con
MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay
lapluie
ColinIsCool
Quin
Dragon D. Luffy
sprityo
sig
rundontwalk
nutella
Marmot
Kites
Iron_Dwarf
DrWilgy
As far as I can tell, I'm voting for low-post players? Even though that's not the reason I've made several of the votes (and one of those was my vote today on iron dwarf who is now the lead train). I'd like an explanation of the case too tbh.
You say he’s going civ/civ on you like you know he’s a civ. Worrisome.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:18 pmNo, but i'm telling you that you have a thing against my playstyle. It's not the first time you went civ/civ against me in early game. Maybe check that because it's hurting your ability to scumhunt me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:17 pmAngry and making a point of telling me I'm bad at Mafia because I made a case on you.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:16 pmI don't need the mod. I'm just saying I'm angry. I have that right.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:15 pmWhy are you getting all aggro and personal because I am scum reading you? Go cry to the mod. I've done nothing wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 pm I also want to make you look bad because you are legit making me angry.
But that is not related to the game.
If you need people to talk to mods to vent their rage before posting so you have an easier time reading their posts, it's your problem not mine.
yeah I have some of this trepidation too, like I'm flattered that he professes to trust me unconditionally but it kinda gives me the williesKylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:58 pm I don't trust long con...
his posts seem really almost performative. i don't know how to put it into words. it's like he's trying too hard, he's emoting instead of actually feeling, and his pegasister pride preventing him from suspecting other pegasus riders doesn't make sense to me, since if even one pegasus rider is mafia it's impossible for the triangle attack to actually be used to kill mafia.
This is explanatory but unnecessary.Dr. White wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:16 pm Sorry guysbhave been really busy this week with work and valentines day shenanigans. I'm teetering on asking for a replacement so I don't waste the host role if my achedule remains busy.
To answer the question that is continually being asked, I originally wanted to pick marmot because I loved the guy when he played on nF. But i couldn't pick at the time so when i did i just rng'd people and landed on dwarf nd gave him the role i thought he would have best liked.
I'd like to hear more about these reads at least briefly. I screwed up the code when I snipped, so the shades of colors might be different.gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:05 pm Dr. White
MacDougall
Dragon D. Luffy
sig
rundontwalk
Kites
why couldn't you have picked marmot at the time (when you thought it was your turn but it wasn't)? why did you randomize instead if you wanted to pick him and he was still available (though you did end up picking him on your real turn) this doesn't make any sense. also how did you decide what role someone you didn't know would have liked best, or was it just what you thought looked best out of what was availableDr. White wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:16 pm Sorry guysbhave been really busy this week with work and valentines day shenanigans. I'm teetering on asking for a replacement so I don't waste the host role if my achedule remains busy.
To answer the question that is continually being asked, I originally wanted to pick marmot because I loved the guy when he played on nF. But i couldn't pick at the time so when i did i just rng'd people and landed on dwarf nd gave him the role i thought he would have best liked.
Hi speedchuck. JJJ has too much to do right now. Headache. Mafia hurts me.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:55 pm Ey, JJJ is in this game! Is he silenced today?
Come and play, JJJ
What happened between your Iron Dwarf vote and now to make you switch?
I agree.Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:58 pm I don't trust long con...
his posts seem really almost performative. i don't know how to put it into words. it's like he's trying too hard, he's emoting instead of actually feeling, and his pegasister pride preventing him from suspecting other pegasus riders doesn't make sense to me, since if even one pegasus rider is mafia it's impossible for the triangle attack to actually be used to kill mafia.
But why?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:36 pm Effective immediately, Speedchuck replaces Dunya.
@dunya
@speedchuck
It's posts like this..... Just like.... So much effort to emphasize that he is a pegasus knight and his role is important and that he should get a protection used on him because of how important he is. It's just so insistent that it feels fake.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:06 amI'm a tracker, and I am Civ, and I intend to bring good results to the thread which will catch baddies. I'm hoping one of our docs out there will appreciate that and think of me. All Pegasus Knights, and the Shaman, need protection.
And yeah, by the way, Marmot, what the hell? Some of us info types are hoping that protection will allow us to contribute a few free baddies to the noose... we don't need some showboater getting everyone to target him! Is that your big idea? Draw all the protections so you can kill who you like?
Anyway, that's a tangent. Mac, if I had found out about a BTSC baddie team before the draft, I would have been in there as soon as a chat link was PMed. Then I would have been less clueless at the draft. There wouldn't have been a post saying "Did Long Con just log off without choosing the next player?" or whatever.
I'm a Pegasus Knight, and we are not a role you just go ahead and lynch. We will produce. We will police this thread and come together to slay any infidel who dares to be Mafia. Don't lynch me, and leave my sisters alone too.
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm Hi, I'm ten pages behind right now, and I don't know if I'll be reading them or not. I don't want my Pegasister to be lynched... as of ten pages ago, I felt like she was being railroaded by a few aggressive, high-posting players, and I am not that surprised to see the tally in the state that it's currently in for her.
And then he has this whole thing where he doesn't want to lynch Nutella or rabbit because of their relationship to his role, culminating in his quin vote to save Nutella, I think his day one actions show a disproportionate amount of effort being put into saving his pegasiblings compared to the amount of effort he put into steering the day one towards a scum lynch
this is actually the first time long con says anything regarding nutella's actual alignment, instead of her role as a pegasus rider, and it's way after the actual lynch took place. He says he town reads her, and gives an after-the-fact half-hearted reason for why he voted for Quin, which is not representative of any of his previous postsLong Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:53 am Oh you meant my vote, not some night power thing... I voted to save my Pegasister nutella. She's town, and she's not up for lynch. I thought I was going to have to vote Epi, but then the Quin vote became the only way. PLUS several people have stated that your ISO is "full of fluff", and that doesn't sound good. What's up with that?
this was the only other post where he even mentioned Quin prior to voting for him
I dunno it felt good. I guess it is an opportunity to steer the game in a direction that has been ignored so far. I like to do that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:42 pmWhat happened between your Iron Dwarf vote and now to make you switch?
My opinion on CBob is that he’s done a lot of set up, where he took some posts and gave the argument for why the posts were scummy without saying so. Someone else can pick up the argument later and he doesn’t have to try and carry it. Also an easy way for mafia to create the appearance of majority support without having to commit that many members to a cause.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:46 pm @Marmot
@Kites
@TonyStarkPrime
Tell me about the effort to lynch colonialbob.
Would you be able to point to the specific posts about Colin and Quin which give you this impression?TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:07 pm My opinion on CBob is that he’s done a lot of set up, where he took some posts and gave the argument for why the posts were scummy without saying so. Someone else can pick up the argument later and he doesn’t have to try and carry it. Also an easy way for mafia to create the appearance of majority support without having to commit that many members to a cause.
Overall day 1 he notably pressured RDW, Colin, and Quin in this way, but RDW was saying crazy things and deserved it. Colin and Quin both were pushed as feasible Day 1 lynches but Cbob ended up on Rabbit even though his arguments against the two carried on and almost led to lynch.
So easy to fake...
