The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:10 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:30 pm Swinging to Kylemii on the basis of the lynched one's vote for him.

This is a bit better. A little wishy-washy on Epi's part, possibly opportunistic.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:23 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:41 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm These votes are thin. This game is in thin water right now.
We have one flip and it was scum. Game's fine.
I don't want you to think I meant anything like "on thin ice"... I just made up an expression that was similar. I mean, there's very little to judge people by, and the votes here that are maybe supposed to get some reactions or get things going just don't have any oomph to them. No respondable accusations behind them. What are they for?

I have to disagree with this. Then I have to question if this is genuine or not. From where I stand, we're doing pretty well. We have stuff to work off of. I feel I have a little townie nucleus to work with, and those are all factors in our favor.

We have a 48 hour day, I'm waiting for more people to check in, see reactions, etc. I plan to do some chatting with Dys again this Day Phase, as I feel we made a good team yesterday. With additional input from additional green feels, I'm hopeful we'll accomplish something again this time.

I was actually just contemplating the pros and cons of doing a mass claim, and reading about it. I'm interested in hearing others' thoughts on this idea. When I was coming up in mafia (eons ago, LOL) info-dumping and role outing was a mod-kill offense. So this realm of role claiming and info-dumping is foreign soil to me. I know there are definitely pros and cons, and am interested in discussing whether we think it would be helpful, and at what point in the game it might be most helpful.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:28 am**

If I find a moment I’m gonna orient myself in this game with some interactive analyses. If I don’t find a moment, I’ll probably just fart around like the filthy naked beast that I am.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 am**

Sloonei is Mafia.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 am Sloonei is Mafia.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:00 am**

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:23 amI was actually just contemplating the pros and cons of doing a mass claim, and reading about it. I'm interested in hearing others' thoughts on this idea. When I was coming up in mafia (eons ago, LOL) info-dumping and role outing was a mod-kill offense. So this realm of role claiming and info-dumping is foreign soil to me. I know there are definitely pros and cons, and am interested in discussing whether we think it would be helpful, and at what point in the game it might be most helpful.

I don't think a massclaim is the best idea at this point.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:01 am**

I'm happy to claim. I am a two shot day vig.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:01 am**

dayvig: sloonei

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:03 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:01 am dayvig: sloonei

Lol come on

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:11 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm These votes are thin. This game is in thin water right now.

But blood is thicker than water, and there's some blood floating around here now.

Agree that Nut was somewhat of a surprising kill given the post restriction. But she was very unlikely to get lynched because of tipping the scales on Soneji.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:12 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:53 pm I went back and checked the poll and it says I only had one vote, from Owner. That jives with my memory. Did I have another voter who switched on and then off?

I voted you as well. It was there for some time at least. I had my vote on you before I switched to Soneji.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:18 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:00 amI don't think a massclaim is the best idea at this point.

I don't hate the idea of a mass claim actually. But I'm not much of a power role preserver.
Pros are that it can be revealing and some towns can be cleared.
The biggest con is that we don't know mafia's actual powers, and they can better foresee and mess with town's actions.

Imo a mass claim should always be done in a specific order, where the most suspicious (consensus) or lurky players go first, and the most consensus town go last.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:19 am**

Welcome, Sloonei btw ^^

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:20 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 am Sloonei is Mafia.

How caught up are you with this game, Mac?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:21 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 am Sloonei is Mafia.
How caught up are you with this game, Mac?

Enough to know a Mafia Sloonei when I sees one.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:22 am**

Bird
Neverwhere
Owner
Rej

I so wish you all would post more and get involved with the game.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:23 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:21 amEnough to know a Mafia Sloonei when I sees one.

Jolly good. But have you read the whole game? I know you're busy with the champ game as well.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:26 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:23 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:21 amEnough to know a Mafia Sloonei when I sees one.
Jolly good. But have you read the whole game? I know you're busy with the champ game as well.

No. I haven't read day 1 at all.

Been busy embarassing myself in champs game.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:38 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:26 amNo. I haven't read day 1 at all.

Been busy embarassing myself in champs game.

Since it's night in the champs game - Now is the time to read D1 here! =D

It's not a long read. I would greatly appreciate your input. There has been some low activity imo.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:47 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:57 pm Voted colonialbob for no discernible reason.

Tunnelling

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:49 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:12 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:53 pm I went back and checked the poll and it says I only had one vote, from Owner. That jives with my memory. Did I have another voter who switched on and then off?
I voted you as well. It was there for some time at least. I had my vote on you before I switched to Soneji.

Gotcha.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:21 am**

So has bob inherited a one word reply restriction?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:39 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:21 am So has bob inherited a one word reply restriction?

Maybe?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:00 am**

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine. Sometimes things are what they appear to be.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:02 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:00 am [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine. Sometimes things are what they appear to be.

Do you have like, more reads?

What do you think of Epi for example? What of the lurkers? I don't know either Bird or Neverwhere. Are they always this lurky?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:03 am**

I'm going to join on Speed though

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:23 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:02 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:00 am [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine. Sometimes things are what they appear to be.
Do you have like, more reads?

What do you think of Epi for example? What of the lurkers? I don't know either Bird or Neverwhere. Are they always this lurky?

Epi is being Epi. I've learned he and I don't particularly see things the same way so it takes me a while to get a read on him. I'm seeing mostly good stuff though.

I don't know the lurkers either, so no reads there, sorry.

I like you, indiglo, and Kyle right now.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:02 am**

BWT11 is often a no-show.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:13 am**

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:23 am I was actually just contemplating the pros and cons of doing a mass claim, and reading about it. I'm interested in hearing others' thoughts on this idea. When I was coming up in mafia (eons ago, LOL) info-dumping and role outing was a mod-kill offense. So this realm of role claiming and info-dumping is foreign soil to me. I know there are definitely pros and cons, and am interested in discussing whether we think it would be helpful, and at what point in the game it might be most helpful.

Based on my role, I'd say a mass-claim wouldn't be very helpful. Based on this being a bastard game, even more unhelpful.

But it prooobably wouldn't hurt anything either. Just might make things a little less fun.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 am**

Voters of me should ask themselves:

If Soneji was town, would speed look bad?
Would a town speed know whether Soneji was town or scum?
Would this interactive analysis look any different at all if speed was town and Soneji was scum?

Ya'll are being basic.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:17 am**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:11 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm These votes are thin. This game is in thin water right now.
But blood is thicker than water, and there's some blood floating around here now.

Agree that Nut was somewhat of a surprising kill given the post restriction. But she was very unlikely to get lynched because of tipping the scales on Soneji.

Also Flash Hundred Yard Dash is a 'good guy' (probably), and nutella had the post restriction to prove it.

Nutella isn't the type to fake a post restriction like that.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:19 am**

[mention]indiglo[/mention] I dig the readlist. Why is owner so low?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:34 am**

My reaction when I make a game based on a really popular movie and nobody itg has seen it.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:36 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:34 am My reaction when I make a game based on a really popular movie and nobody itg has seen it.

I've seen it. And I'm reading the write-ups.

Flavor mmmm

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:40 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:19 am @indiglo I dig the readlist. Why is owner so low?

Basically because I trust no one unless they've done something that looks town to me. Just haven't seen that yet from Owner. I know Dys has a town lean on her, so I take that into consideration. I just ain't seen it yet.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:42 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:34 am My reaction when I make a game based on a really popular movie and nobody itg has seen it.

I heard it was a Jack game and signed up.

Quality!

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:44 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:11 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm These votes are thin. This game is in thin water right now.
But blood is thicker than water, and there's some blood floating around here now.

Agree that Nut was somewhat of a surprising kill given the post restriction. But she was very unlikely to get lynched because of tipping the scales on Soneji.
Also Flash Hundred Yard Dash is a 'good guy' (probably), and nutella had the post restriction to prove it.

The anti-town faction(s) have fakeclaims, so don't get too crazy with this kind of talk.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:47 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:44 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:11 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm These votes are thin. This game is in thin water right now.
But blood is thicker than water, and there's some blood floating around here now.

Agree that Nut was somewhat of a surprising kill given the post restriction. But she was very unlikely to get lynched because of tipping the scales on Soneji.
Also Flash Hundred Yard Dash is a 'good guy' (probably), and nutella had the post restriction to prove it.
The anti-town faction(s) have fakeclaims, so don't get too crazy with this kind of talk.

Do you think Nutella was mafia?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:00 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:44 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:11 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm These votes are thin. This game is in thin water right now.
But blood is thicker than water, and there's some blood floating around here now.

Agree that Nut was somewhat of a surprising kill given the post restriction. But she was very unlikely to get lynched because of tipping the scales on Soneji.
Also Flash Hundred Yard Dash is a 'good guy' (probably), and nutella had the post restriction to prove it.
The anti-town faction(s) have fakeclaims, so don't get too crazy with this kind of talk.

Ah, I skimmed over that. Thanks.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:02 am**

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:47 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:44 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:11 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:07 pm These votes are thin. This game is in thin water right now.
But blood is thicker than water, and there's some blood floating around here now.

Agree that Nut was somewhat of a surprising kill given the post restriction. But she was very unlikely to get lynched because of tipping the scales on Soneji.
Also Flash Hundred Yard Dash is a 'good guy' (probably), and nutella had the post restriction to prove it.
The anti-town faction(s) have fakeclaims, so don't get too crazy with this kind of talk.

Do you think Nutella was mafia?

No... I've never played a bastard game before, but I'm going to trust the flips.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:11 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:38 am Sloonei is Mafia.

Based on previous player or other information?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:16 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:02 am
No... I've never played a bastard game before, but I'm going to trust the flips.

I'm gonna hope that we can trust the flips.

Nutella's flip and post restriction makes a lot of sense.

I'm wondering bob is faking post restrict, but then again, Idk if would even think to pull something like that off. So it may be the real deal, but if is is a scum power, what is to stop scum from doing it on their own team to make one of their own look better?

I voted bob yesterday.

he got really defensive.

he thought for sure there was another vote on him. maybe he got confused with another wagon...not sure.

but when I voted for him I was the only vote on him.

idk if as town he would be worried about votes.

tl;dr

I'm still suspicious of bob

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:17 am**

oh his username ends with lob not bob...ooops

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:18 am**

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:17 am oh his username ends with lob not bob...ooops

oh that's just actually a typo in the vote counter thing...huh...good to know

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:33 am**

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:23 am
I have to disagree with this. Then I have to question if this is genuine or not. From where I stand, we're doing pretty well. We have stuff to work off of. I feel I have a little townie nucleus to work with, and those are all factors in our favor.

We have a 48 hour day, I'm waiting for more people to check in, see reactions, etc. I plan to do some chatting with Dys again this Day Phase, as I feel we made a good team yesterday. With additional input from additional green feels, I'm hopeful we'll accomplish something again this time.

I was actually just contemplating the pros and cons of doing a mass claim, and reading about it. I'm interested in hearing others' thoughts on this idea. When I was coming up in mafia (eons ago, LOL) info-dumping and role outing was a mod-kill offense. So this realm of role claiming and info-dumping is foreign soil to me. I know there are definitely pros and cons, and am interested in discussing whether we think it would be helpful, and at what point in the game it might be most helpful.

Pros (to be defined as only positive)
Some people might feel like they are confirmed once they have claimed (so that would be a pro for them)

Cons (to be defined as only negative)
This is a bastard game. What we think is true may or may not be true.
Mechanically won or lost games don't sit right with me (I don't know if others feel this way or not, but for me it kind breaks game integrity imo)

Nulls (to be defined as helpful everyone - not just one alignment)
Massclaiming, if we mass claim, town might have a better sense on who to lynch and mafia will have a better sense on who to target. town might also have a better sense on who to target.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:37 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:00 am [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine. Sometimes things are what they appear to be.

so it was just a coincidence you were typing one word answers...noted

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:39 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 am Voters of me should ask themselves:

If Soneji was town, would speed look bad?
Would a town speed know whether Soneji was town or scum?
Would this interactive analysis look any different at all if speed was town and Soneji was scum?

Ya'll are being basic.

Is walking your voters through the process really necessary? And will this actually lead to them changing their minds?

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:40 am**

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:39 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 am Voters of me should ask themselves:

If Soneji was town, would speed look bad?
Would a town speed know whether Soneji was town or scum?
Would this interactive analysis look any different at all if speed was town and Soneji was scum?

Ya'll are being basic.
Is walking your voters through the process really necessary? And will this actually lead to them changing their minds?

Probably not.

The only way to change people's minds is to give them a better target. By hunting.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:42 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:13 am
indiglo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:23 am I was actually just contemplating the pros and cons of doing a mass claim, and reading about it. I'm interested in hearing others' thoughts on this idea. When I was coming up in mafia (eons ago, LOL) info-dumping and role outing was a mod-kill offense. So this realm of role claiming and info-dumping is foreign soil to me. I know there are definitely pros and cons, and am interested in discussing whether we think it would be helpful, and at what point in the game it might be most helpful.
Based on my role, I'd say a mass-claim wouldn't be very helpful. Based on this being a bastard game, even more unhelpful.

But it prooobably wouldn't hurt anything either. Just might make things a little less fun.

Yes, less fun is also a thing. It generally depends on what alignment you are, but across the board, it is definitely a fun killer to be told everything versus the mystery being steadily revealed to us.

Posted: **Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:43 am**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:40 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:39 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 am Voters of me should ask themselves:

If Soneji was town, would speed look bad?
Would a town speed know whether Soneji was town or scum?
Would this interactive analysis look any different at all if speed was town and Soneji was scum?

Ya'll are being basic.
Is walking your voters through the process really necessary? And will this actually lead to them changing their minds?
Probably not.

The only way to change people's minds is to give them a better target. By hunting.

Yeah, all work no play

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