The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:15 am**

Why Tony?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:24 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:15 amWhy Tony?

I don't think he's the type to fake claim that right after Hally, and the claims after his help me believe his.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:39 am**

Is there a specific reason why you don't think Tony would fake claim Miller after Hally made her claim, or is it a general gut feeling of "I don't think Tony makes that play here as scum"?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:12 am**

General

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am**

In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:48 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:05 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:02 am You must be new here.

Nanook isn't getting removed Day 1 even if he is bad.
Why not?

I've never seen it happen.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 am**

^

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:11 am @Epignosis
talk to me about this Nanook meta you have
Why doesn't he die day 1?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:51 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:31 am Note that we need to remain in a state of high urgency at all times. Jack is a host from the HC Realms tree, and that means we cannot trust conventional assumptions about how alignments may be distributed. When I see 15 players, I tend to assume 12 vs. 3 is the most standard. With Jack though, I will not count out 11 vs. 4 or even 10 vs. 5 (with potential independent involvement too). It depends upon the arrangements of the roles he has decided to feature.

The point is that we cannot fart around in a Jack game. Play hard at all times or suffer the consequences.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:52 am**

It’s happened it’s just

Rare. Usually if I get miskilled it’s later in the game

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:54 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:43 am still think the raised hand is townie points for Con, but I am interested in if that translates into his posts as well

@Epignosis
in regards to Nanook again, he is a big boy, if he has time to mock me by calling me Chad, then he has time to do stuff on day 1, instead of sitting behind this meta that is honestly completely NAI for him

still want you to tell me about his meta for your POV though

Raised hand? Chad?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

I was just going to say it would be funny if jack created a game that was just all town. It would be like a monsters are due on maple street type deal. Jack is the only real mafia making us all turn on each other.

Other random things I got from a quick read through I lm glad nanook is saying he's just going to enjoy the game I know we just talked about that the other day. I have not played a game with daisy in a long time so nice to see you again!
There's a couple newer people I don't know as well so it may take me a little longer to get reads on them. Day 1 reads are tough as it is.

Sidenote: I'm just letting you all know tomorrow I have to travel and I have a couple important medical appointments so I may be in and out. I should be available here and there and later on in the day. Send positive vibes my way for all good results!

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am**

Epi: 100% agree with both those mullets.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:57 am**

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

I was just going to say it would be funny if jack created a game that was just all town. It would be like a monsters are due on maple street type deal. Jack is the only real mafia making us all turn on each other.

What's maple street?

I love this idea, but the way to do it is one mafia and several millers.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:58 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:48 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:45 am What are you referring to regarding the "raised hand" Wisp?
I asked people to raise their hand, aka type o/ if they are town
and Con responded almost immediately
wolves more or less avoid these posts usually, or respond with the wrong answer

like I said, I will see how it translate into his posts though

Wait wait wait...

0/

That's all it takes to find mafia to you?

See who types a zero and a slash?

And how does anyone respond with the wrong answer? Use a bracket?

0]

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:03 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:57 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:55 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

I was just going to say it would be funny if jack created a game that was just all town. It would be like a monsters are due on maple street type deal. Jack is the only real mafia making us all turn on each other.
What's maple street?

I love this idea, but the way to do it is one mafia and several millers.

An episode of twilight zone where all this weird stuff happens lights flickering and cars not starting then starting by themselves. Then everyone in town starts turning on each other like thinking they're all aliens when none of them are.
The real aliens were watching from afar as the humans all fall apart. It's an interesting concept.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:06 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:48 am i will say though, for someone that claims to not care how people read you, you... seem to care quite a bit from how you react to suspiscion

Hally, Nanook. Nanook, Hally.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:12 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 am I hard claim miller too by the way. Not a joke claim. I'm serious.

This is starting to look like Scirrus' lunchbox.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:14 am**

Alison has a 23 posts to 0 instances of the word "pure" ratio.

There's a civilian right there.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:24 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:15 am I dont think hally made that weird gimmick i just said that quick so TSP can have my vote

[VOTE: tony] aubergine
Why Tony among the millers?

I forgot who said it third, but I’m just going on a limb here and point my finger at tony

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:21 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:24 am
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:15 am I dont think hally made that weird gimmick i just said that quick so TSP can have my vote

[VOTE: tony] aubergine
Why Tony among the millers?

I forgot who said it third, but I’m just going on a limb here and point my finger at tony

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:23 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:04 am Epignosis is a civilian for shitting in my cereal when I wasn't here yet.

Hally is a civilian for being the first miller claim and for displaying ~[the energy]~

Wisp is a civilian for ordering me to vote for a dude before I determined I agreed with him.

sabie12 is a civilian for acknowledging the miller claim pile in a way that suggests she doesn't give a crap.

Also yeah this

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:32 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:27 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:30 am Fwiw I have a couple real reads

And will otherwise be playing entirely to have fun cause I’ve had too many less than fun games recently and I refuse to be made to take this one seriously until, like, D4

Put me in the towncore and I’ll sheep
If I hadn't just finished the Space Invaders game with you I'd have voted you for this

Having fun is good but potatoing for the first three days hurts town and I ask you not to have your fun at the expense of others. Unless you're scum in which case potato away
Ok, how have I potatoed

I have the start of a good towncore this game

Last game I was on scum literally every day I was alive

So throw insults if you want but I’m still good at the game, I just approach it differently
I don't think you've potato'd actually, you've generated content so far and I'm fine with your play up til now. I actually said that Wisp's push on you for not doing much was bad for that reason. But then you said you were just going to sheep if someone put you in a towncore which indicates to me a lack of desire to continue generating content which was what made me said that. If that wasn't what you meant then fine.

I don't understand what your take is on Nanook. Do you suspect him or don't you?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:33 am**

I think she’s townreading me now!

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:39 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:58 am All of a sudden Spacedaisy is one of my top civilian reads. It's a "soul read" if you will, but I get a great sense of purity from dem posts.

Oh shit.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:49 am**

Purity tell. Tsk tsk. Can we lynch JJJ on Day 1?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:57 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
elaborate?
It's unclear to me why Wisp is pushing nanook for not doing anything when plenty of other people haven't done anything either and it's well within standard nanook behavior to not do much, in the first ten pages of the game especially. Also even if you disregard that, nanook stating a soft lock town on Epi was probably more content than many other people in the game anyway.

#269 and #270 had really high levels of "look at me, I'm so town!" energy, which I generally associate with mafia. This is because mafia tends to be much more concerned with how they look to the rest of the town than a townie, and will be actively trying to make themselves look as town as possible. Of course town also has an incentive to try to appear as townie as possible but I think crafting a post specifically to try to exude that kind of energy is >rand mafia. The random jab at funnygurl felt really out of place as well.

sure just let me vote everyone I guess
you arguing that, many others are doing the same thing, is more of a discredit than an arguement
I know exactly what Nanook is capable of, as both alignments, I guess we can argue his behavior is still pretty NAI, but I don't want to

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:00 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:00 am [VOTE: sprityo] aubergine

i think thats how you spell it?

A applaud you for spelling it right, you’re okay in my book

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:01 am**

I am here and trying to catch up. Holy crap, y’alls play style is hella different than what I’m used to.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:01 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:47 am In hindsight, I have entirely screwed up the town to mafia ratio in this game since I've given the entire town my unchoppableness. I think adding eight more wolves and a vigilante or two will set things right. Please stand by for new role pms.

Spoiler: show

Hmmm

Perhaps then you should just get a whole new player list then?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:03 am**

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] if one of the millers is mafia, who is it?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:03 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:03 am @JaggedJimmyJay if one of the millers is mafia, who is it?

Funnygurl would be my first guess.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:04 am**

Nanook in regards to the difference I saw relates to the team Mafia game, where I feel like he is doing more, which feels pretty odd to call someone a wolf for, but then he just goes back to the whole meta argument, which feels a bit better

Miller claims are meaning less and less to me now, given that this is our 4th? miller claim
Hally's is probably the best, and her stuff afterward, like her interaction with my game along side Con, look good as well

Tony came off a bit nervous after his claim

I never got a chance to talk about Epi, but they are all over the place from what I remember

[mention]Alison[/mention]
also, a lot of the way I play stems from trying to get people to do stuff even day 1, so people like Clem aka Nanook bother me on a fundamental level. I am pretty much like a mini-me version of Jagged, except my posts aren't as great as his. I am a better motivator than a game solver

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:04 am**

Funnygirl also claimed Miller?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:04 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:57 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 am
Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
elaborate?
It's unclear to me why Wisp is pushing nanook for not doing anything when plenty of other people haven't done anything either and it's well within standard nanook behavior to not do much, in the first ten pages of the game especially. Also even if you disregard that, nanook stating a soft lock town on Epi was probably more content than many other people in the game anyway.

#269 and #270 had really high levels of "look at me, I'm so town!" energy, which I generally associate with mafia. This is because mafia tends to be much more concerned with how they look to the rest of the town than a townie, and will be actively trying to make themselves look as town as possible. Of course town also has an incentive to try to appear as townie as possible but I think crafting a post specifically to try to exude that kind of energy is >rand mafia. The random jab at funnygurl felt really out of place as well.
sure just let me vote everyone I guess
you arguing that, many others are doing the same thing, is more of a discredit than an arguement
I know exactly what Nanook is capable of, as both alignments, I guess we can argue his behavior is still pretty NAI, but I don't want to

X for doubt

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:05 am**

I mean I DO do stuff D1, it’s just not the stuff you want me to do, so

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:06 am**

Like it’s pretty common for me to catch scum D1 I don’t really know where this “nanook doesn’t do anything” comes from tbh

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:06 am**

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:23 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:04 am Epignosis is a civilian for shitting in my cereal when I wasn't here yet.

Hally is a civilian for being the first miller claim and for displaying ~[the energy]~

Wisp is a civilian for ordering me to vote for a dude before I determined I agreed with him.

sabie12 is a civilian for acknowledging the miller claim pile in a way that suggests she doesn't give a crap.
Also yeah this

and then you going about using this as your own defense makes the above mean so much less

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:07 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:39 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:58 am All of a sudden Spacedaisy is one of my top civilian reads. It's a "soul read" if you will, but I get a great sense of purity from dem posts.
Oh shit.

It’s kind of a stupid word, yes. But it fit the context of my intended message.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:09 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:06 am Like it’s pretty common for me to catch scum D1 I don’t really know where this “nanook doesn’t do anything” comes from tbh

then do it?
my impression of you is pretty much, I know you can catch mafia, but you never seem to do anything
and when I see you doing stuff, its mostly arguing with people that pressure you, which is NAI, and spitting out blanket reads with no evidence, which helps no one

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:10 am**

going to backread the posts I missed while asleep

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:11 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:32 am Wisp is significantly >rand town based on meta fwiw

dont meta read me
but I am curious what you think this meta is?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:12 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:11 am @Epignosis
talk to me about this Nanook meta you have
Why doesn't he die day 1?

For the record, this has never been a thing before Epi decided it was in this very game.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:12 am**

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:01 am I am here and trying to catch up. Holy crap, y’alls play style is hella different than what I’m used to.

At this point nobody is used to anybody’s style anymore. We morph with the passing breeze. I am e x c i t e d for your t a k e s.

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:13 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:06 am Like it’s pretty common for me to catch scum D1 I don’t really know where this “nanook doesn’t do anything” comes from tbh
then do it?
my impression of you is pretty much, I know you can catch mafia, but you never seem to do anything
and when I see you doing stuff, its mostly arguing with people that pressure you, which is NAI, and spitting out blanket reads with no evidence, which helps no one

I mean uh

I have objectively good reads most games, I think you’ve played with me enough to know this?

So like...

What I’m doing is working, if you know it works and still don’t pay attention to my reads I think that’s more on you than me tbh

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:14 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:11 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:32 am Wisp is significantly >rand town based on meta fwiw
dont meta read me
but I am curious what you think this meta is?

Why would I not meta read you

I’ve literally never read you wrong in a forum game

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:14 am**

JAgged's read on me doesnt feel like something he made up
Personally, he is not someone who I would argue is a good lynch day 1, and anything against him right now just feels a bit nitpicky
Me and him will most likely be top posting by the end of day 1, and I am not interested in this slot in the slightest as long as his progressions feel natural

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:15 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:04 am Funnygirl also claimed Miller?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:17 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:01 pm two hard claimed millers
are we really doing this?

this isn't a bastard game, correct?
also hard claiming miller

What does this mean to you Wisp

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:16 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:14 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:11 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:32 am Wisp is significantly >rand town based on meta fwiw
dont meta read me
but I am curious what you think this meta is?
Why would I not meta read you

I’ve literally never read you wrong in a forum game

I mean if this game says anything than sure? but I have no idea your reads on me from other games. I think you called me town in the Team Mafia game, I don't recall what you read on my was in the Draft Mafia game on Mafia451

but that still doesnt answer my question, what exactly is the meta read? or is this simply "I have a big brain and I have never been wrong", which helps literally no one but yourself

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:17 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:15 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:04 am Funnygirl also claimed Miller?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:17 pm
Wisp wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:01 pm two hard claimed millers
are we really doing this?

this isn't a bastard game, correct?
also hard claiming miller
What does this mean to you Wisp

yo not everything sticks to my brain like glue
did they post anything else after claiming that?

Posted: **Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:18 am**

how the hell does Nanook have 75 posts...

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