The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:04 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:54 am im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:15 am Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:04 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:54 am im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:21 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:04 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:54 am im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:30 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:29 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

cat wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:48 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Yeah that's me. btw what's your opinion on cop claim in this set up [although I'm not really aware of much of the set up myself, as of yet]

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:12 pm We have a heavy reliance on the cop this game I think (thankfully there's a backup, on the off chance that there's a cc), which means that them claiming might not be in our best interest yet, because it'll give the Anti-Cop more info into who they should frame.

That said, claiming early would prevent cc wars from going down.

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:48 pm Marmot knows I'm KZA

Marmot might just be town

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:54 pm Like traitors probably are not gonna make obvious softs, so bringing about an idea like that feels slimy. It’s lije “I’m just gonna be shut down by town but hopefully my fellow traitors can deduce my true intentions of TRYING TO FIND MY FELLOW TRAITORS

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:13 pm Ok, cool, I read the rules now. Four Lost Wolves, and it's ideal to send Traitors to Exile despite the poll removal factor. Regular chops by Day.

cat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:04 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:42 pm

cat wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:48 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

Do you think the traitors will try to contact eachother? Should we look for softs?

Would bringing up the idea be consistent as a soft cause I feel ot is, bringing up strategies for traitors like this ain’t a good look.

Vote Cat

The more strategies traitors take from us, the better, means we know what to look for.

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:48 pm

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 12:42 pm

Would bringing up the idea be consistent as a soft cause I feel ot is, bringing up strategies for traitors like this ain’t a good look.

Vote Cat

This is kind of towny even if I don't fully agree with the conclusion but keep going

I really like the volume.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:56 pm

Yeeting based on interactions is impossible this game and I’d look closely at people doing it, it would be a try to look productive/good tactic here.

Not saying that’s what Wiml is doing here though

It's not impossible. Like for example right now i'm seemed suspicious because of my question. What we can analyze is how people react to it. Who thinks i'm wolf, and who thinks i'm town? What's their reaction? Stuff like that.

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:23 pm

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:23 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:21 pm I'm gonna start with someone yet to sling any mud

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

See if he dances for us

Why would he dance on a random accusation?

I can hope can't I

It wasn't even a random accusation. ''yet to sling any mud'' is perfectly viable.
[VOTE: KZA] aubergine

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:30 pm I'm gonna lightly town lean 112 for both their posts being the type that could attract unwanted attention as scum

It's a little bit on the nose for me. Giving a hot take just because it's hot. That's the vibe i get from that.

Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:35 am

cat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:32 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:06 am Cat!

What's your overall thoughts? Like, not reads, just general thoughts about the gamestate.

I like that i'm the center of attention. Don't like the conclusion that i am a scum softing traitor, and what don't like that there was more discussion about cop and exiles than what traitors gameplan is going to be. The cop is irrelevant, and just exile town. Let's talk about traitors instead.

Disagree. I thought about talking traitors gameplan and ended up thinking I'll probably help traitors play properly and I'd rather not. I'll save that until later.

Do you think thread has been town or wolf-controlled?

Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:09 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:58 am

Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:47 am I know what I'm looking for, but I'm not gonna say "Good wolves plays like this" because that would probably help wolves more than town.

Are fools more likely to be town or wolves?

I think I said as much but I agree a lot with what Wisdom is saying here.

I also have a couple of things I want to add along the lines of "I think a traitor would do X" or etc but doing that now just either exhausts tells so that they become pretty much useless or gives the wolves ideas on what to do / what not to do.

This.

I'm gonna out wolves when they've done wolfy stuff to push and kill them.

I'm not gonna talk about how wolves are gonna play this game because they will adjust and be even harder to catch.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 2:05 pm I do have a couple more thoughts on the strategy this game, but I'm going to withhold them until everyone has checked in.


I do have a question for everyone though. I've reconsidered my original stance on the cop claiming, and I've seen a couple players advocating for it. Should we encourage the town cop to claim or not? At this moment, I'm leaning toward yes.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:04 pm Probably why i’m so often misyeeted on day one, the paranoia from players who’ve seen me as scum skews there judgement when I’m a pretty easy read on day one

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:15 am Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:15 am Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Why lie about being a cop? What did you gain?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:42 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:15 am Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Why lie about being a cop? What did you gain?

Mild amusement.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:43 am Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:42 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 2:05 pm I do have a couple more thoughts on the strategy this game, but I'm going to withhold them until everyone has checked in.


I do have a question for everyone though. I've reconsidered my original stance on the cop claiming, and I've seen a couple players advocating for it. Should we encourage the town cop to claim or not? At this moment, I'm leaning toward yes.

you town! this is what I liked about you and disliked in the previous mech convo probably.

to answer your question, I am the cop and I won't talk about it until I am offered three buckets of ice cream. < 3

Spoiler: show

I'm marmot!

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:04 pm Probably why i’m so often misyeeted on day one, the paranoia from players who’ve seen me as scum skews there judgement when I’m a pretty easy read on day one

are you a top poster as either alignment?

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:44 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:43 am Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

No I am.

but why would you uncover him?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:42 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:42 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:15 am Then why did you lie?

I claimed in the first post of the game and then it was funny that people thought I was really the cop.

Why lie about being a cop? What did you gain?

Mild amusement.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:44 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:44 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:43 am Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

No I am.

but why would you uncover him?

Mild amusement.

Wisdom wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:45 amMac v

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:44 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:44 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:43 am Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

No I am.

but why would you uncover him?

Mild amusement.

I take my LMAO back.

Now I'll LoL you, Lots of Lizards. Made me claim, smh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:47 am Thanks for the cover though.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:21 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:04 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:55 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:54 am im not the cop btw

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:30 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:29 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am What is the plural of wine?

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:54 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:54 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:43 am Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:43 am Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

So you admit the only reason to fake claim cop is too try and gauge reactions to spot the real one. Cause i’m not thinking it accomplished anything else useful except your mild amusement.

Not everyone can just be amusing by using there vocabulary; and making there words sound fun:

But I guess that’s why, you’re the opening act at the local comedy club and I main event just for laughs 🎙

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:56 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:54 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

I think in the beginning you had no problem with the cop claim tho

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:55 am

Spoiler: show

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:21 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:04 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:55 am

you claimed It before btw

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:30 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:29 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

Because YOLO. Best case scenario he was telling the truth and the cop dies, worse case, i get eliminated the next day and allow my teammates to settle in comfortably.

re: MissSparkle

there's no nk, then wdym the cop dies?

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:59 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:43 am Marmot knew i was fake so he's the cop.

So you admit the only reason to fake claim cop is too try and gauge reactions to spot the real one. Cause i’m not thinking it accomplished anything else useful except your mild amusement.

Not everyone can just be amusing by using there vocabulary; and making there words sound fun:

But I guess that’s why, you’re the opening act at the local comedy club and I main event just for laughs 🎙

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:01 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:55 am

Spoiler: show

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:23 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:21 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:19 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:04 am

I am aware of that

so you are emphasizing on it because you really love your role?

Reread the post.

I see why I don't get good grades. My bad Mac .

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:30 am

Wiml wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:29 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:25 am So do we believe the host would force the cop to claim yay or nay?

Seems weird but if we're in a setup where it is pretty much optimal for the cop to claim immediately then I don't see why not (it would prevent a player who is less experienced or a lurker from playing suboptimally if they randed the role and causing town to perform worse as a result).

I'm happy to just believe that Mac is the cop and telling the truth about whatever unless he gets counterclaimed.

If I was a traitor i’d counterclaim though.

talk to me about this. @MissSparkles How do you feel about Mac's claim and him taking it back. And why would you counter claim as a traitor?

Because YOLO. Best case scenario he was telling the truth and the cop dies, worse case, i get eliminated the next day and allow my teammates to settle in comfortably.

re: MissSparkle

there's no nk, then wdym the cop dies?

Are u dumb, they’d potentially get yeeted after my CC.

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:00 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:56 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:54 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

I mean the cop should obvi stay in the shadows (like the real GENGAR; not humpty dumpty). And wait till he has info to give us to even say anything, why let the Traitor Cop know his identity so he can try and outguess their target?

I think in the beginning you had no problem with the cop claim tho

Because I thought it was a legit claim, cause I asked. So I was like whatever not the end of the world and adapted.

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:03 am

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:51 am

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:20 am The real cop is out there somewhere thanking me for the cover though.

Because cover is so important in a no NK game.

it’s like going to see you’re doctor for a papercut, not very manly and just wastes everyone’s time.

i don't think claim matters at all, at least d1, unless the cop is getting elimed, does it?

Nah they don’t, but I’d stay hidden as the cop. Cause that’s how I’d play it