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Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
by protocultures
Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.
unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML
I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.
unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML
I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.
what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
borderline want to call that tmi
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 pm
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:47 pm
like this is essentially lylo. Epi probably has the least mechanical stuff going for him. No there's that whole "I'm protecting nutella" thing on day 1 ughggghgh
im pretty sure it was all part of his 5head plan and he never actually saved Night 1
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:51 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.
unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML
I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.
what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night
moreover I mean literally like 20 minutes ago you thought I was a wolf for making the assumption that Epi tries to blast nutella and wins
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:52 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:50 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:47 pm
like this is essentially lylo. Epi probably has the least mechanical stuff going for him. No there's that whole "I'm protecting nutella" thing on day 1 ughggghgh
im pretty sure it was all part of his 5head plan and he never actually saved Night 1
someone just count his actions.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:52 pm
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.
unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML
I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.
what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night
the earlier posts today.
Carotenoid obv didnt save Nutella since they wanted to clear Epi from being the single saver.
I agreed with clearing Epi (for non pendants) and I would not do that if I had actually saved Nutella last night.
Nobody else is saying they saved Nutella last night. If they did and havent said, they are kinda throwing.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:52 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
If he didn't even save night one and was being clever anyways then I see super no reason to clear him.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:53 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:52 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.
unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML
I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.
what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night
the earlier posts today.
Carotenoid obv didnt save Nutella since they wanted to clear Epi from being the single saver.
I agreed with clearing Epi (for non pendants) and I would not do that if I had actually saved Nutella last night.
Nobody else is saying they saved Nutella last night. If they did and havent said, they are kinda throwing.
hold on I have a post that will highlight hypocrisy
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:53 pm
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Epi just blasts Nutella last night and wins.
unless:
epi doesnt trust that everyone will follow the plan
epi and team are kinda sick and prefer to win through ML
I mean, on that basis I guess you can put Epi and me in a world again.
what evidence that you have that epi didn't blast nutella last night
moreover I mean literally like 20 minutes ago you thought I was a wolf for making the assumption that Epi tries to blast nutella and wins
look in earlier in day posts.
the first point is the pendant point.
the second point is one I thought of just now.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:53 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:24 pm
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:17 pm
"misleading town to bad conclusions" pfffffft, proto you're saying Epignosis is lock town too
you said you and epi are lock town because you saved epi at night.
2 people hasnt claimed yet.
your conclusion was bad.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
yeah I'm just getting stuff out there Proto, I see the development.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella just say something so I can reevaluate copypasta you
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.
Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.
Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.
We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.
3 things.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.
Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.
Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.
We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.
3 things.
okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm
by nutella
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
nutella just say something so I can reevaluate copypasta you
I'm never shooting any of epi, mac, or proto today
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:52 pm
If he didn't even save night one and was being clever anyways then I see super no reason to clear him.
his claimed night 1 save doesnt clear him.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot
To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:59 pm
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.
Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.
Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.
We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.
3 things.
okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.
second point is inferred (Epi as mafia)
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:00 am
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
nutella just say something so I can reevaluate copypasta you
I'm never shooting any of epi, mac, or proto today
I know I don't have much weight on this, but... you're biased AS HELL. I'm not scum hunting as much as I'd like to because I lack time (screw real life and the pandemic...), and it's hard to hunt with the amount of constant pushes at me for CRAP reasons (you didn't like my "interesting", and since then you began throwing everything you could at me...). If you weren't death tunneling me, you would notice that I'm trying to do my townie's job EVEN THOUGH I'M BUSY AND PRESSURED TO DEFEND MYSELF. You would also notice that me expressing a townread on Trenton and just showing how KZA misread a post (that's not debatable, just read the damn quote AXIS) is me doing what town SHOULD do, instead of instantly thinking I'm pulling some sort of damn machiavellian scheme.
You're like those people in Ancient Aliens saying that if there's something common between human cultures, it's because AlIeNs CrEaTeD uS instead of just going with the more plausible, less far-fetched hypothesis: evolution and the common branch between all humans who originated from Africa. Now don't get me wrong, I think you're a very capable player and actually like you. I'm just fed up with your death tunnel that takes up time, energy and posts.
REEVALUATE.
also nutella lurking wolf confirmed
why aren't you shooting mac?
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:01 am
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm
If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot
To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.
Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.
Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:59 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:57 pm
protocultures wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:49 pm
Someone tell me two things that clear Epi.
Epi doesnt kill Hally because they are a new player. Everyone agrees.
Assuming Epi doesnt kill new players, I infer that Epi also doesnt call a new player an autisic mathemagician.
We nominated Epi only to save Nutella. Nutella didnt die.
3 things.
okay the first two are pretty darn good. the third one is bad logic.
second point is inferred (Epi as mafia)
yeah it's what made me change my mind, but I've seen Epi be a pretty aggressive wolf. Epi as wolf also overuses the "I never bus" line when he's just bussed, the first point can be seen in that fashion, but really like. I don't think so.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:02 am
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:01 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm
If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot
To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.
Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.
Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol
i saved nutella.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:03 am
by protocultures
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:01 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm
If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot
To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.
Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.
Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol
You have to have a claim from someone else that they saved Nutella to make your case against Epi. There is no claim.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:04 am
by TonyStarkPrime
somebody got shot last night. I would personally have shot at me. carot would also be a popular target if she's town cause we know the scum team thinks I do the fps and I don't do the fps.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:04 am
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:03 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:01 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:58 pm
If Epi is a wolf -> Nutella gets shot
To prove that Epi is town, Nutella has to not get shot. We can't prove that. If Alison died, I would clear Epi. Your thoughts earlier on Epi/Proto made me reconsider that somewhat, but that's where I was at last night.
Nutella didnt get shot because Nutella didnt die.
Am I being dense. Its possible. its 5am here lol
You have to have a claim from someone else that they saved Nutella to make your case against Epi. There is no claim.
literally this is why linki exists
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:05 am
by TonyStarkPrime
wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:07 am
by Carotenoid
TSP right now -->
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:08 am
by TonyStarkPrime
not worth it.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:08 am
by TonyStarkPrime
shameless meta argument:
tsp as a wolf would be much more coordinated
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:09 am
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:05 am
wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself
I have no idea what this is.
I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.
You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.
You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.
Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:10 am
by Carotenoid
proto it's because he's alien
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:13 am
by protocultures
I dont want to shoot Alison.
I want to shoot mac, but Nutella never doing it. I assume are no flips which make Nutella re-assess Mac either so it is what it is.
Carotenoid - im fine with shooting.
TSP - i need to check earlier logs re start of day but im going to sleep now. Im fine with shooting anyway probably.
Epi - please dont shoot my poker/UFC bro.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:14 am
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:09 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:05 am
wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself
I have no idea what this is.
I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.
You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.
You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.
Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?
i basically did instantly claim that.
i cannot fathom a scum team that shoots carot, even if one thinks that I'm going to protect epi. Carot flipping is just as good as alison flipping from a game state perspective since both are equally likely wolves
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:15 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:10 am
proto it's because he's alien
okay you're the one who deserves the reevaluate
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:16 am
by TonyStarkPrime
town has at worst 50/50 odds if it can lock in the scum team and I get shot. Which is worse than I was hoping for.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:17 am
by protocultures
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:14 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:09 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:05 am
wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself
I have no idea what this is.
I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.
You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.
You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.
Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?
i basically did instantly claim that.
i cannot fathom a scum team that shoots carot, even if one thinks that I'm going to protect epi. Carot flipping is just as good as alison flipping from a game state perspective since both are equally likely wolves
a team with Mac/Alison can shoot carotenoid since Mac is near outside of Nutella POE and push you.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:19 am
by protocultures
post your flowchart solve if you die so I can read in the morning pls.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 am
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:17 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:14 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:09 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:05 am
wait hold on I want to amrock gamethrowing meme myself
I have no idea what this is.
I feel like you almost threw by not saving in the chain.
You increase the chances of a ML if the chain fails and you are town not following the chain.
You claiming this now... I have to check earlier in day to see if you could have instantly claimed that.
Your recent postings are not in line with my mental image of TSP posts. I dont have a good baseline though. anyone else want to weigh in here?
i basically did instantly claim that.
i cannot fathom a scum team that shoots carot, even if one thinks that I'm going to protect epi. Carot flipping is just as good as alison flipping from a game state perspective since both are equally likely wolves
a team with Mac/Alison can shoot carotenoid since Mac is near outside of Nutella POE and push you.
Alison Mac and alison proto are the only two teams that consider it. alison proto doesn't consider it because to you it's not something I would do. That feels very genuine. something like alison mac, yeah it could happen but then I present nutella with a mechanical solve that always works and allows me to get misshot because we come to the conclusion instantly that it's alison mac.
I did think through that one.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:20 am
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:19 am
post your flowchart solve if you die so I can read in the morning pls.
I'm still working on it.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:29 am
by nutella
ngl it feels kinda horrible that all of you have dumped so much time and effort into analysis and figuring out the game and I could still just lose it for yall
the pressure is really a lot
I'm sorry if I fuck this up, really feels like town deserves the win and it could just come down to a single bad decision by me
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:30 am
by TonyStarkPrime
nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:29 am
ngl it feels kinda horrible that all of you have dumped
so much time and effort into analysis and figuring out the game and I could still just lose it for yall
the pressure is really a lot
I'm sorry if I fuck this up, really feels like town deserves the win and it could just come down to a single bad decision by me
don't worry, your bad decisions in the past of this game are much worse than anything you could do now, if that makes you feel better
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:31 am
by TonyStarkPrime
it probably doesn't. oh well.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:31 am
by nutella
lol
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:33 am
by TonyStarkPrime
on days 3,4, and 5 you made what seemed like pretty clearly suboptimal, while understandable, kills. in this position I have absolutely no clue, nor even a reasonable guess, what your best course of action is. all of the rage that can be directed at you is now in the past.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:33 am
by protocultures
You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.
We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.
You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:34 am
by TonyStarkPrime
I really don't want to be playing mafia right now.
I'm gonna wake up, solve the game maybe, but probably not do anything more than read through the two flipped isos and try to figure out where to go from there.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:36 am
by protocultures
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:33 am
You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.
We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.
You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.
I mean if you shoot epi or me, you might get some grief ngl.
Re: Space Invaders [Day 6]
Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:00 am
by TonyStarkPrime
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:36 am
protocultures wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:33 am
You hit 2 mafia at start. That helps so much more than finding mafia now.
We should find mafia for you since we have more info than you.
You did your job already. Don't feel pressure and nobody will blame you.
I mean if you shoot epi or me, you might get some grief ngl.
another clear point for epi/proto