The Syndicate

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:24 am NAA Syn guarentees minimum 1 Mafia they mindmelded the whole EoD and it was a scummy menuvre from both.

I very much disagree with everything about this, and I don't believe there was a conspiracy to tie the votes

like, Dunya was always gonna be the yeet

Syn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:08 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:05 pm i will kill anyone syn tells me to kill.

are you sure? because scotty flipping wolf would look very bad for you

I also would like to point out that I called out Syn for this start of day 2.
This oozes the mentality that Syn was setting up to mislynch Duyna even during N1.

I 100% believe Syn entered D2 knowing the Mafia night kill and going to push to mislynch Scotty and blame it on Dunya.
It's really just too convenient that Mac scum read Scotty, died N1, and Syn came out the bat ready to off Scotty and Dunya.

LP simultaneously arguing that the wolves are gonna mega kill tonight and that she'll be able to tell us whether or not sig, a zero poster, is wolf tomorrow

which if she says she tracked sig to hk, guarantees the chop target

hmmm

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:00 pm dunia and lp aren't aligned you nincompoops

This post is an indication they had TMI Duyna would be mislynched despite them voting Duyna.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:31 am I 100% believe Syn entered D2 knowing the Mafia night kill and going to push to mislynch Scotty and blame it on Dunya.
It's really just too convenient that Mac scum read Scotty, died N1, and Syn came out the bat ready to off Scotty and Dunya.

you gave me a lot of shit for scum-reading scotty d1 and he was saved by a random bad case on creature by dunia

hmm why would i pressure scotty and dunia at the beginning of d2

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:33 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:00 pm dunia and lp aren't aligned you nincompoops

This post is an indication they had TMI Duyna would be mislynched despite them voting Duyna.

he was arguing that you were town

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:33 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:00 pm dunia and lp aren't aligned you nincompoops

This post is an indication they had TMI Duyna would be mislynched despite them voting Duyna.

feel free to quote other posts from d2 that explained why you two weren't aligned

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

I'm all done with compromising on my reads this game. I'm only voting lp, urist, Scotty untill the three are dead.

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:33 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:00 pm dunia and lp aren't aligned you nincompoops

This post is an indication they had TMI Duyna would be mislynched despite them voting Duyna.

he was arguing that you were town

Syn was voting me most of D2. Why the fuck would they do that?
If so that is stupid.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

amazing logic

this is so contrived

there is no way you believe anything you're posting

it's not possible

join us Syn

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

you said at the start of d2 that I was "objectively" the towniest person with nobody scum-reading me, which everyone immediately disproved and was a large reason why you even had a wagon on d2

you did not say I was YOUR top town read at any point, in fact, your d1 read was that HK and I were t/w and you were thinking it was me who was the wolf of the pair

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

you said at the start of d2 that I was "objectively" the towniest person with nobody scum-reading me, which everyone immediately disproved and was a large reason why you even had a wagon on d2

you did not say I was YOUR top town read at any point, in fact, your d1 read was that HK and I were t/w and you were thinking it was me who was the wolf of the pair

Time has proven that true even if that was a half joke.
Mafia do make a lot of effort to make a presence D1 and you certainly did that then proceeded to scumside all of D2.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:43 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:38 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:36 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:34 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:43 pm

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:34 pm But if Syn doesn't get on and explain why they are voting to tie Dunya instead of voting another one of their other top scum reads, TSP, I will be treating that as a scum claim from Syn for the rest of the game.

you already scum-read me since early D1 so this is not really a major revelation

I also really despise this blatant lie as I was literalyl pushing Syn because of the fact they were my top Town read and the top read on 90% of the players in the game and not killed N1.

lol are you really trying to argue that I was your top town read

really

are you really going to

I said that at the start of D2.
You should ahve died N1.
Mac was scummy af and you were Towny af.
Mafia had no reason not to kill you N1.
N2 you can argue HK was town read by more peopel, but every day you live is another opint of evidence that Mafia is wanting to keep you alive ergo you are Mafia.
I said that D2. You were too townie to ever be left alive N1.

you said at the start of d2 that I was "objectively" the towniest person with nobody scum-reading me, which everyone immediately disproved and was a large reason why you even had a wagon on d2

you did not say I was YOUR top town read at any point, in fact, your d1 read was that HK and I were t/w and you were thinking it was me who was the wolf of the pair

Time has proven that true even if that was a half joke.
Mafia do make a lot of effort to make a presence D1 and you certainly did that then proceeded to scumside all of D2.

how do you know it's scum-sided?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:49 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:38 am Who are the wolves HK?

they're in this set:
LP
Jack
Marmot
TSP
Urist
DrWigley

with a side of Dunya sus I can't shake but don't want to believe in.

I think the following are town:
HK obvs
Rask
Syn
Dolby
Scotty
NAA
Dyachei

Sig is a null and I'm assuming if Sig wolf Sig has been prompted numerous times to show up and do something. TSP makes my wolf list b/c he seems somewhat fixated on why sig exists, feels like a pre-associated attempted clear. That assumes Sig flips wolf but if he does TSP looks weird to me for wanting to know why Sig is still alive.

this was HK's reads list early D2

I guess I should go check if he made an updated one closer to EOD

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:46 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

So you do not think your scumreads are accurate?
Do you think everythign you posted D1 was scummy?
Like you make no fucking sense.
You cannot have both the status as IC and Mafia leave you alone.
How can you unironically believe that you are not someone that the mafia would kill without thinking you have been scumsiding with your reads or posts.

Like if you were barely posting to get by like Wilgy I can see that.
But you have been active.
You ahve tried to look like you are attempting to game solve.
That is stuff that gets you killed and you think Mafia has no reason to kill you?

You are jus tmaking up excuses as to why the Mafia would leave you alive.
THEY SHOULD NOT LEAVE YOU ALIVE IF YOU ARE TOWN SYN.
NEVER!

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:41 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:21 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:55 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:35 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:34 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:29 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:27 am

ngl I want to end the day tied between the two and make wolves make the choice
[VOTE: linearpoint] aubergine

If they’re both v/v they’re picking LP 10 times out of 10

that's my way of saying I don't think they're both v

what's your take on them being v/w?

I think only possible if LP is the w

It's possible dunya is town if LP is a wolf, and in that world the dunya voters are trying to save LP by pushing dunya over which makes them more likely wolves.

if LP is town I think dunya is almost always a wolf. I still think it's possible, maybe even likely that they're both wolves. I do not think they're both town at all.

Once again, yes, TSP and I chose to attempt to yeet notoriously LHF player....Dunya. To defend a teammate, LP, who nobody townreads on her own merits and who doesn't seem to gaf about the game.

Come the fuck on.

straight up I think if dunya flips town min one wolf between you and tsp. I agree with Urist that Town Jack and Town TSP do not push Town Dunya like this. I think town Jack/TSP push wolf dunya like this for sure. Wolf Jack/TSP might push town dunya like this.

he didn't post an updated reads list but he did post this

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:46 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

So you do not think your scumreads are accurate?
Do you think everythign you posted D1 was scummy?
Like you make no fucking sense.
You cannot have both the status as IC and Mafia leave you alone.
How can you unironically believe that you are not someone that the mafia would kill without thinking you have been scumsiding with your reads or posts.

I'm not IC, and mafia aren't leaving me alone

through the power of linear time I am able to determine that at least half of my hypothetical wolf team is town

I know this because they died and flipped town, therefore I can deduce that some of my scum reads are not accurate

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:54 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:46 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

So you do not think your scumreads are accurate?
Do you think everythign you posted D1 was scummy?
Like you make no fucking sense.
You cannot have both the status as IC and Mafia leave you alone.
How can you unironically believe that you are not someone that the mafia would kill without thinking you have been scumsiding with your reads or posts.

I'm not IC, and mafia aren't leaving me alone

through the power of linear time I am able to determine that at least half of my hypothetical wolf team is town

I know this because they died and flipped town, therefore I can deduce that some of my scum reads are not accurate

As if you ever planned on listening to anything I said.
I could say tomorrow "actually I tracked NAA and he visited HK and Marmot N2" and you would still ignore it if I got lynched that day and flipped Town.

what

what????

Let it be clear that was a hypothetical.
I obviously didn't. I don't even get results ountil night even if I did track NAA.

yes but

what?

No I'm going to refrain from talkin to you further. You just make my blood boil with how you seemingly care more about being contrarian than anything.
LIke words cannot describe how you sound right now. It seems like you would quite literally ignore a red check from me even if I flip Town.

anyway I am of course in the unique position of knowing my alignment and knowing that I am being kept alive for a reason

I don't need to ironically or unironically believe that, since from my perspective, that is the basic truth

my reads are going wrong somewhere in a way that makes other people more optimal for kills, and my "objectively towniest person" and "IC" statuses as you kindly describe me will become irrelevant

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:08 am anyway I am of course in the unique position of knowing my alignment and knowing that I am being kept alive for a reason

I don't need to ironically or unironically believe that, since from my perspective, that is the basic truth

my reads are going wrong somewhere in a way that makes other people more optimal for kills, and my "objectively towniest person" and "IC" statuses as you kindly describe me will become irrelevant

OK, but how do you reach the conclusion that if I flip Town half of my reads have to be wrong and thrown out?
That just seems so dismissive and backwards.
That's why I don't believe you care about anything I say if regardless of my alignment you're going to just assume I am horribly wrong.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:06 am No I'm going to refrain from talkin to you further. You just make my blood boil with how you seemingly care more about being contrarian than anything.
LIke words cannot describe how you sound right now. It seems like you would quite literally ignore a red check from me even if I flip Town.

the nature of this game makes red checks almost impossible to confirm

by your own logic, the wolves are going to mass kill tonight, so why would I believe you d4 if you say sig did or didn't go somewhere if his slot is still alive?

9 v 4 right now. d4 could well be lylo or outright game over if your theory holds any water. if you're a wolf, you can either clear your packmate and guarantee neither of you are chopped, or you can frame a zero poster slot and guarantee the win right there. nebulous tracks at lylo can't be trusted, just as a general baseline

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:11 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:08 am anyway I am of course in the unique position of knowing my alignment and knowing that I am being kept alive for a reason

I don't need to ironically or unironically believe that, since from my perspective, that is the basic truth

my reads are going wrong somewhere in a way that makes other people more optimal for kills, and my "objectively towniest person" and "IC" statuses as you kindly describe me will become irrelevant

OK, but how do you reach the conclusion that if I flip Town half of my reads have to be wrong and thrown out?
That just seems so dismissive and backwards.
That's why I don't believe you care about anything I say if regardless of my alignment you're going to just assume I am horribly wrong.

where... did I say this?

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:54 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:48 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:46 am

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:42 am

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:40 am this is so contrived

No, this is how this game works.
The players who are Mafia's biggest threats are who Mafia kills.
You cannot be a player who was as Townie day 1 as you and still be alive today.

why would I die

what threat am I posing to the wolves, do you think

did I kill a wolf d2? doesn't seem like I did

HK was the second name in the wolf team i proposed

well, that ain't right either

So you do not think your scumreads are accurate?
Do you think everythign you posted D1 was scummy?
Like you make no fucking sense.
You cannot have both the status as IC and Mafia leave you alone.
How can you unironically believe that you are not someone that the mafia would kill without thinking you have been scumsiding with your reads or posts.

I'm not IC, and mafia aren't leaving me alone

through the power of linear time I am able to determine that at least half of my hypothetical wolf team is town

I know this because they died and flipped town, therefore I can deduce that some of my scum reads are not accurate

these last two lines.

uhhhhhhhhhh

I don't think that says what you think it says

I mena I've read it 5 times now.
I don't understand what it says then.
Like the power of linear means half of my reads are wrong if I die and flip Town.

you asked me if I thought my scum reads were accurate, I said no and made a snarky joke about the passage of time meaning that I know that two of my scum reads are town because they are dead and have flipped town

this has no bearing on you or you flipping town, or your reads (???)

linear is not refering to you

he's saying that time passing has proved his own reads wrong

i like how dolby is lurking just to intercede and explain my posts and reads at random points

very cool

OK maybe I need to sleep because I can't understand a metaphor about time.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:17 am i like how dolby is lurking just to intercede and explain my posts and reads at random points

only for you syn

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:18 am OK maybe I need to sleep because I can't understand a metaphor about time.

on d2 I suggested a wolf team of dunia/hk/urist/tsp

since then dunia and hk have died

they have both flipped town

therefore, because of time passing, i know that my scum reads can be and have been inaccurate