Re: Lawyers, Guns and Money- [DAY 6]
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:42 am
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Because she didnt consult you, she felt demoralised after my entrace and ghosted thread then just coasted till she went over and admitted it in the final seconds and you posting ... because you are unahppy with that is very indicative of that but this is all angleshooty bullshit we shouldnt be engaging in because I have said I would turbo who ever you wanted as long as you provided a decent case as to why they are wolf and then turbo you the next day if you are wrong. I am giving you a winning dome but you arent taking itNeon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:46 am So let me ask you a question.
If I'm wolf and I've spent all day hard defending Lucy and being notably within my wolf range according to the two players who have played with me.
Why would we as a wolf team ever let Lucy come into thread and just admit to being a wolf there. I mean she's probably going over anyways ig but if she was gonna give up went would I waste my breath?
Lying as town is usually good townsidingRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:46 amI lie all the time, about everything, I am lying about this. I lie as town and wolf because I am addicted to lying. Believe me this
Why should we dome?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:48 amBecause she didnt consult you, she felt demoralised after my entrace and ghosted thread then just coasted till she went over and admitted it in the final seconds and you posting ... because you are unahppy with that is very indicative of that but this is all angleshooty bullshit we shouldnt be engaging in because I have said I would turbo who ever you wanted as long as you provided a decent case as to why they are wolf and then turbo you the next day if you are wrong. I am giving you a winning dome but you arent taking itNeon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:46 am So let me ask you a question.
If I'm wolf and I've spent all day hard defending Lucy and being notably within my wolf range according to the two players who have played with me.
Why would we as a wolf team ever let Lucy come into thread and just admit to being a wolf there. I mean she's probably going over anyways ig but if she was gonna give up went would I waste my breath?
You can green me nowNeon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
Meh, Kate had a whole exchange with me earlier in the game where she knew I was lying/withholding and couldn’t see my angle.
Seanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
Read it againGolden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 amWhy should we dome?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:48 amBecause she didnt consult you, she felt demoralised after my entrace and ghosted thread then just coasted till she went over and admitted it in the final seconds and you posting ... because you are unahppy with that is very indicative of that but this is all angleshooty bullshit we shouldnt be engaging in because I have said I would turbo who ever you wanted as long as you provided a decent case as to why they are wolf and then turbo you the next day if you are wrong. I am giving you a winning dome but you arent taking itNeon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:46 am So let me ask you a question.
If I'm wolf and I've spent all day hard defending Lucy and being notably within my wolf range according to the two players who have played with me.
Why would we as a wolf team ever let Lucy come into thread and just admit to being a wolf there. I mean she's probably going over anyways ig but if she was gonna give up went would I waste my breath?
Just say your angle is baiting, it works for meGolden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:59 amMeh, Kate had a whole exchange with me earlier in the game where she knew I was lying/withholding and couldn’t see my angle.
My angle is that I was cop.
Of course I should have a good lie ready about my angle. But it was also partial truth… just not whole truth.
Lol... holy shit.
So anyways these are the only two posts in Wilgz entire iso that are game related.
I mean in essence that’s true.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:03 amJust say your angle is baiting, it works for meGolden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:59 amMeh, Kate had a whole exchange with me earlier in the game where she knew I was lying/withholding and couldn’t see my angle.
My angle is that I was cop.
Of course I should have a good lie ready about my angle. But it was also partial truth… just not whole truth.
Someone has to go late if the wolves want a chance at winning you two were my favourite options. But also I wanted to see how people reacted because you werent the only options. Plus throwing a good difference check out there without stating it makes people go nuts sometimes
I picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Thats fair if trueNeon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 amI picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Next question. Why is SVS alive?
They’ve only had three kills, and doc avoidance makes picking harder. Perhaps svs was even the kill attempt night 2Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 amI picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Next question. Why is SVS alive?
I think I’d have those three exactly reversed.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:29 pmSeanzies post about tunneling is bothersome, I'm not sure how to interpret it, and Falcons post explaining what bothered him about Golden was acceptable, to me. I don't necessarily agree with it but at least, it's surface clean.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:20 pmAfter your first read through, what has stood out to you?Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:18 pmYou left out STV! As usual, I don't say much on day one, but I do read and reread because day one becomes very important later in the game. I'm missing Bea, and wondering if she knows the game has started.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:36 pm I do know it , @Kate . That’s why when I answered Scotty’s question about the Kate Fam, I said I thought you would bus them if you were bad teamies, but I don’t think you’d build cases on them, like hard distancing. You might, though, if you were civ.
It was an active thread today, looking forward to your thoughts on it. The activity seems to have come in large part from people who have a different Mafia mindset than I, and your insight would help me sort it, since we often come from a similar place, threadwise.
Also hoping to hear from the rest of the LP/TP/RM gang.
Scotty seems like the same as the anniversary game, he notices everything, and questions everything, and he was civ there. (That doesn't clear him, but something I note).
That's as far as the feels go right now, because I need more time before I start making judgements.
Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:31 pmSeanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:20 pmThere is nothing about me or my posts that are bothersome. I am the epitome of unbothereomeness. I am about as bothersome as a soak in a jacuzzi. As bothersome as a warm, clear summer eve.Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:29 pmSeanzies post about tunneling is bothersome, I'm not sure how to interpret it, and Falcons post explaining what bothered him about Golden was acceptable, to me. I don't necessarily agree with it but at least, it's surface clean.Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:20 pmAfter your first read through, what has stood out to you?Matahari wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:18 pmYou left out STV! As usual, I don't say much on day one, but I do read and reread because day one becomes very important later in the game. I'm missing Bea, and wondering if she knows the game has started.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:36 pm I do know it , @Kate . That’s why when I answered Scotty’s question about the Kate Fam, I said I thought you would bus them if you were bad teamies, but I don’t think you’d build cases on them, like hard distancing. You might, though, if you were civ.
It was an active thread today, looking forward to your thoughts on it. The activity seems to have come in large part from people who have a different Mafia mindset than I, and your insight would help me sort it, since we often come from a similar place, threadwise.
Also hoping to hear from the rest of the LP/TP/RM gang.
Scotty seems like the same as the anniversary game, he notices everything, and questions everything, and he was civ there. (That doesn't clear him, but something I note).
That's as far as the feels go right now, because I need more time before I start making judgements.ok, I'll change bothersome to 'thought provoking'.
Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:45 am i want to post my thoughts so far, while I have a minute. They are definitely not deep thoughts, but how deep can they be on day 1?
New players get a pass, until later in the game. Absent players, as well.
if I don't mention you, its because I have you as town for now.
Falcon45ca- I didn't find it suspicious that you chose someone quickly because with movable votes, it seems like a lot of players throw votes around in a slap-happy fashion. then you were questioned about it, and you promptly posted quotes for why you made your vote. This looked legit to me at the time. Later it occurred to me that maybe you did all that too quickly, Pre-planned? But someone, Sabiplz, I think, said this was normal for your town game.
Soneji posted, I think, but I'll need to go back and look to make sure. ???
Lucy- so far, is reminding me of Dr. Wilgy. Too random to read, and weird posting just annoys me because I don't know what to do with it. I'd like to hear from players who are familiar with them.
Seanzie made a very risky statement for a town player to make. Or just an 'I can't be bothered' statement. Since it was preceded by an 'Ugh', I'm going with the former.
Sabiplz drew attention to his post, then backed away from it, then said she rarely voted early or often, then 17 minutes later she voted for Seanzie. None of this feels right.
Golden got a vote from Falcon, and although Falcon's reasons would not be enough to convince me to vote someone, I thought they were ok for a day 1. However after post 486 ( I think, I'll go back and check later and do an ebwop if necessary), I have Golden as town.
Marmot, no clue. I'd like to hear what other players think of him. ???
Everyone else, I have as probably town. I have no absolutes this early, but I'm watching the players above who pinged me. I'd like to hear what other players think of my not so deep thoughts, please.
Hmmmmmmm...Matahari wrote: ↑Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:07 pm I slept most of the day. I did not intend to.
I still have Sabi as a suspicion, for reasons mentioned on d1, but I have considered that maybe they really mistrusted Seanzie. Then they started to backpedal some, and I’m back to sq1.
Why did Falcon vote Seanzie? Maybe they gave a reason why in an earlier post, but I can’t remember now so I’ll ISO them later or tomorrow.
I don’t understand Lucy’s vote for Bea either, it seems a bad idea to go after low posters, just for being a low poster, this early. (It doesn’t help that I still feel so bad for suspecting Bea in the anni game 1)
I can’t remember what else I read earlier because I’m getting sleepy again but I know there’s more. I’ll post again after I sleep on it.
I mean. Why would you kill Scotty over SVS after SVS had an unwavering push on scum that killed them.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:10 amThey’ve only had three kills, and doc avoidance makes picking harder. Perhaps svs was even the kill attempt night 2Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 amI picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Next question. Why is SVS alive?![]()
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If I had to guess, I’d bet scotty was protecting SVS last night.Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:15 amI mean. Why would you kill Scotty over SVS after SVS had an unwavering push on scum that killed them.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:10 amThey’ve only had three kills, and doc avoidance makes picking harder. Perhaps svs was even the kill attempt night 2Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 amI picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Next question. Why is SVS alive?![]()
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I'd kill SVS last night thinking they were possibly cop no?
This is a good pointNeon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:15 amI mean. Why would you kill Scotty over SVS after SVS had an unwavering push on scum that killed them.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:10 amThey’ve only had three kills, and doc avoidance makes picking harder. Perhaps svs was even the kill attempt night 2Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 amI picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Next question. Why is SVS alive?![]()
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I'd kill SVS last night thinking they were possibly cop no?
I disagree.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:22 amThis is a good pointNeon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:15 amI mean. Why would you kill Scotty over SVS after SVS had an unwavering push on scum that killed them.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:10 amThey’ve only had three kills, and doc avoidance makes picking harder. Perhaps svs was even the kill attempt night 2Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 amI picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Next question. Why is SVS alive?![]()
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I'd kill SVS last night thinking they were possibly cop no?
The first sentence is like, exactly what Maf would say after finally getting some kills thru...RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:16 amHow?
I see I'm not alone in my paranoia lolfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:54 amThe first sentence is like, exactly what Maf would say after finally getting some kills thru...RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:16 amHow?
And why was the last EOD weird? I actually felt we were finally coming together on things, working thru the minutae so to speak.
And then add that to their reaction to Golden moving off lucy...which at first gave me some tingles on Golden, but then engaging with him I started to feel where he was coming from.
That post is pinging me right out the gate
How so “let her” ?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:46 am So let me ask you a question.
If I'm wolf and I've spent all day hard defending Lucy and being notably within my wolf range according to the two players who have played with me.
Why would we as a wolf team ever let Lucy come into thread and just admit to being a wolf there. I mean she's probably going over anyways ig but if she was gonna give up went would I waste my breath?
They thought getting rid of a very successful doctor was more important? He lightly pushed back against the “why didn’t anyone object” thing re Goldens Seanzie case.Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 amI picked this because it's the only EoD that was ever in doubt. And there's a wagon that's almost entirely flipped.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:00 amSeanzie is my yeet in lylo, Dennis is probably IC since Katez says so but Golden is IC so SVS is the only one left. But I feel like this is a cherry picked example, do you have another?Neon wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 12:56 am D1:
Wilgz (6): marmot, golden, seanzie, Dennis, svs, Lucy
Seanzie (5): Kate, Wilgz, Neon, Sabi, Scotty
I want to note. I'm town. So Seanzie is pure.
Do me a favor please and do a thought exercise with me. In a world where I'm town what does this tell you?
How confident are we on Sean being town?
SVS > Seanzie > Dennis
Next question. Why is SVS alive?