The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:29 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:26 pmSo Long Con, haven’t seen you much yet this game. What are your thoughts thusfar?

Haven't read the last few pages yet. I saw Michelle tried to shade me for the chess, and Dom said he'd vote for me if it continued... those things are sketchy to me, chess isn't alignment-indicative. I don't really have a solid opinion on most people at this time.

1. d4 d5
2. e4 dxe4

I love chess so much that i am looking forward for your game here. I don't need the board.
Please go on with it.
Btw, was it a shade? I feel that my observation is overrated.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:46 am Neee to read the whole set up...

What do you think about it?

Well let's call a spade a spade and a shade a shade here. You said I was trying to divert attention elsewhere, I don't know a reason why a civilian would do that, so, you are accusing me of being bad.

I get that this isn't yet the hill you want to die on or anything, but that is what you did. I have no intention of distracting from the game with this chess, it's just a cool thing that I think could be fun.

I am not used with the word civilian in mafia, always used town or villager.
Now i also learn what shade means.
Always happy to learn ^^

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:57 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:37 pm As I've said often, lynching Sloonei Day 1 is -EV.

I agree with this and he hasn't done anything that truly raises my suspicion.

Juliet is playing like she always does, I don't see fakeness in her welcome post, but she can still have been being honest about welcoming them and be mafia. Basically what I'm saying is that post doesn't mean much to me it's a null post that I'd just void.

I’m still not clear on why you thought you saw a teammate relationship between myself and dragomir at the very beginning of the game.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:54 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:36 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:10 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:52 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:57 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:32 pm This looks boring.

Wanna play chess?

1. d4

2. d5

chess inside mafia? that's nice.
Long con wants to divert the attention elsewhere though..

I clicked on Michelle’s name because she’s one of a few who I have not played with before. This is her only on-topic post. It’s super cherrypicked and a little arbitrary.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

o/ i remember your name though but i don't recall if it was in a game or in other thread at MU being linked with Soneji's name because it's similar

I’ve played a couple games on MU. I was a finalist in season 3 of the tournament over there. Or it could just be the soneji connection. I’ve mistaken myself for him as well.

Welcome to the Syndicate! What do you think of my vote for you?

Also I should note that i’m probably about to become scarce here. I’m driving home to the wild lands of massachusetts tomorrow, and spending most of today packing/cleaning/generally preparing to leave. I still hope to keep half an eye on things, but I won’t be a very active contributor for the rest of this phase.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:18 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:16 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:15 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:02 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:59 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:57 pm How are we doing?

Great! I found us our D1 lynch and our N1 vig kill.

What did Quin do to deserve being shot?

He tried painting Sig as our D1 lynch when it's actually a Nutella. Redirection here. Revealed himself as buddies with Nutella.

What if I think none of the above should be lynched?

Then you're our D2 lynch.

I see

This is the main Drago/Sloonei interaction in D0. Before this they weren’t interacting much despite being top posters which could? tingle my suspicions a bit and then this seems like a coordinated chain up until the end but I don’t think it’s plausible to suspect w/w from it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:29 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:26 pmSo Long Con, haven’t seen you much yet this game. What are your thoughts thusfar?

Haven't read the last few pages yet. I saw Michelle tried to shade me for the chess, and Dom said he'd vote for me if it continued... those things are sketchy to me, chess isn't alignment-indicative. I don't really have a solid opinion on most people at this time.

1. d4 d5
2. e4 dxe4

If the chess is gonna spark some discussion no point in not continuing

1. d4 d5
2. e4 dxe4
3. Nc3

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:42 am

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:25 pm It doesn't need to be Tony if you can provide me an alternative person to put on check.

You're diminishing any value your vote has with crap like this. Do you actually believe in your vote at all? Or is it for shits and giggles?

Ehh.
I’m voting for JOH right now. I don’t think he’s ever ever ever going to crack from a vote especially if I’m not building much of a case behind it. Creature was voting for me and is now voting for Sloonei. Neither of us seem likely to let off any information or even care. But if we were just voting for fun or for a push for info we could coordinate on a more unknown target pretty simply.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:35 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:54 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:36 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:32 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:10 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:52 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:57 pm

Wanna play chess?

1. d4

2. d5

chess inside mafia? that's nice.
Long con wants to divert the attention elsewhere though..

I clicked on Michelle’s name because she’s one of a few who I have not played with before. This is her only on-topic post. It’s super cherrypicked and a little arbitrary.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

o/ i remember your name though but i don't recall if it was in a game or in other thread at MU being linked with Soneji's name because it's similar

I’ve played a couple games on MU. I was a finalist in season 3 of the tournament over there. Or it could just be the soneji connection. I’ve mistaken myself for him as well.

Welcome to the Syndicate! What do you think of my vote for you?

congrats

your vote is like an invite to be active. I see it positive ^^

[mention]Michelle[/mention] tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:33 am

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:24 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:12 am I need some help with the forum use, of course i can play with it myself to figure it but on mobile is harder.

How can i refresh the page to see the posts?
How can i vote?
How can i see the posts made by a player?

I will maybe ask other silly things connected with the forum use

1. I just have a refresh button on my phone. You probably do too?

2. There's a multiple choice poll at the top of each page - select one and submit. If you want to indicate it in text ie [VOTE: Quin] aubergine (pls no) then make your post using the full editor button instead of quick reply, and select the 'vote' button in that list of text options at the top. Type the name of your vote in between the tags that show up.

3. On the left side of each post where profiles are, press "Isolated Posts by...".

Thanks ^^

Spoiler: show

I don't find the refresh button but i discovered that the postnumber is a link so if i press it the page is reloaded and i think i have a mobile friendly view which doesn't show the left side of the posts but i will search this on PC later

If you’re on mobile the ISO links on the left hand side of the page won’t show up. That’s only there on PC. But the player list on the front page includes ISO links for everybody, so you can just go there too.

You refresh the page as you would refresh any webpage. We don’t have a built-in page refresher.

Such posts wow

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

sig is hella weird on the first pages. /shrugface

1-3

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:52 pmThis post is sketchy, pinning him as third party.

Wait until you see my future posts!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:27 pm My brain is not in Mafia mode lately, I am too happy with my life. So expect me to suck.

Aw, I'm happy for you!

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:14 amWell, tonight a man came into the hospital who hadn't been taking care of himself and he had maggots falling out of a wound in his leg. I got the parts of the leg they cut off.

Other than that, I'm good.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:26 am I should interact with Dizzy. I miss him. *squish* *buddies* *or should I wait to have him buddy me first* :perc unsure:

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Nova actually posting, and that's not a read.
sig says weird stuff, and that's not a read.
Gut on Owner and Nut for town for almost no reason.
Think I liked some of Tony's posts.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:36 pm timmer's last post before this one quoted below was over three hours prior:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

That's 3:19pm EST.

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

That's 3:20pm EST.

Of all the things timmer could have commented on in that window, why that?

And then the punchline:

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:33 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:20 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

It's only 4 pages to read...

I expect more help from a "fellow civillian".

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:34 pm [VOTE: timmer] aubergine

This reeks of a teammate interaction to me.

Rej putting fellow civilian in quotes looks so bad, that there's no way he's actually teammates with timmer

I'm on board the dizzy is 3p train

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:07 pm @Creature why are you voting TonyStarkPrime? yout vote gave me sheepy vibes
is there a reason why you wanna get a big wagon running? why so eager?

I voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:25 pm It doesn't need to be Tony if you can provide me an alternative person to put on check.

ew. This reeks

4-6

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 amI'd be shocked if Dyslex isn't an Indy.

Lol. Ever been surprised before? =p

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

So not do what you literally did in your second post when you town read me based on the same post that has sig convinced I'm indy? Ok, cool.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:01 pmBut if you hand it like candy, you might miss out on the obvious scum. Point is, don't just give out town cred when it's undeserved. Reeks of TMI.

I'll hand out all the town cred I feel like, thanks! Better to have reads and express them than not. Reads can always change as the game changes and you know more info.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:02 pm Why bother finding town?

This is multiball with cults and a serial killer and a town traitor.

Spoiler: show

Are you triggered?

I feel like I should read the setup again >_>

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Yeah! It would be like:
OMG OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAGAHGHAGHGHHH

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I think I'm liking Dom and probably Nova.
Rej being "that was my civillian way of" is lol.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:42 am I'm on board the dizzy is 3p train

[mention]Owner of a Lonely Heart[/mention] We're back to this again! =p

Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:13 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:57 am @Michelle tell us about yourself as a mafia player. Where do you come from, what’s your strategy? What are you looking for or looking at in this game right now? Does anyone or anything stand out?

I played one alias game with Michelle and I also believe she was in the Champs game with the representative from PerC, which I followed.

I would definitely recommend lynching Michelle at all costs.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:52 am Oh, and also didn't like Michelle's entry to the game that much.

Yo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

7-9

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 pmI voted TonyStarkPrime for reactions.

Big wagons cause more infospreading because it puts someone in spotlight, making that person squirm more while also making others need to justify their stances around said person.

I think it would be more effective if you didn't explain it. Aaand it kind of explains itself tbh =p

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:32 pmsounds reasonable, I like this thinking even if it risks mislynches

@Epignosis just wanted to be sure there is no convenience or sheeping in that vote. Some people might do so for chainreactions.

I don't mind the wagon on Timmer tho.

You're kind of saying that Creature's sheep vote to vote is reasonable and that you like this thinking.
But then you're also making sure Epig isn't sheeping?
Clarify?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:34 pm Why is my name being brought up so much?

What's the point of this post?
Also, I don't really think it is compared to a lot of other people.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:39 amHe knows his suspicion is genuine. He can't say the same about yours. You should know that.

Does this mean you're town reading Rej?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:39 am Epi is being odd this game, he's usually done some oddball move or asked some weird question to gauge people, that hasn't happened and it's making me nervous. I can't recall last time I saw scum Epi, but from what I remember he didn't do that as a mafia member. Can anyone confirm this?

I'm actually town leaning on him more than I usually do (which isn't saying a lot lol). I think he's made stuff happen and also it looks like that is what he intended.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

That first thing wasn't serious, if that wasn't obvious.

Also, hi Luna, hi! Nice to see you again. I'm totally town this time though. <3

Oh wait. I had some thoughts. There's a lot of players in this game.

I like Timmer better than Rej.
I don't know what to think about Drag. I don't think our play styles are very similar. He seems very serious =p
Owner is probably town.
I'll try to do early reads when I'm done reading page 10

Ok so if I'm going to try and sort players.

Town:
Owner

Light town:
Dom
Tony

Null, but ok:
Nova (But was he nervous in his convo with Juliets?)
Nutella
Epig
Timmer

Null, but hmmm:
Drag
Quin
sig

Suspicious:
Rej
Michelle

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Other people I haven't mentioned are just null or I can't recall anything specific for them.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:56 amYo, why you so set on lynching Michelle?

Regarding this though =p

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Hey, who are we mislynching today?

Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

I could also vote Rej as this point. Regarding the "civillian way" thing, what I don't like about that is that I don't think he has commented on it at all. Which is sketchy boots.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

I don't know how to read Sloonei, but I'm pretty much following and/or agreeing with most of what he's saying. /shrugface

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:42 am I'm on board the dizzy is 3p train

But also why though? Cause I hadn't even started playing yet. =p

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:31 pm I don't know how to read Sloonei, but I'm pretty much following and/or agreeing with most of what he's saying. /shrugface

Sloonei knows their stuffs.

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

Is that shade or something? Does it say something about my alignment? Who would be the most intersting player to flip for you right now?

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:35 pmSloonei knows their stuffs.

Yeah. I know the stuff about Sloonei knowing their stuff. =p

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:16 pm 7-9


I'm actually town leaning on him more than I usually do (which isn't saying a lot lol). I think he's made stuff happen and also it looks like that is what he intended.

Epig knows how to make a game start and get convo going, there is absolutely nothing sus about his instigating talk tm about me or rej, and it's actually pulled some odd posts out of rej so yay benefits...

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:37 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:35 pmSloonei knows their stuffs.

Yeah. I know the stuff about Sloonei knowing their stuff. =p

Good stuff.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

Is that shade or something? Does it say something about my alignment? Who would be the most intersting player to flip for you right now?

This was my first thought too; though I don’t think it’s accurate. My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

I’ll answer one of the questions: rej flip is the obvious answer, but I think Drago or Epi is the more interesting bet.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm I could also vote Rej as this point. Regarding the "civillian way" thing, what I don't like about that is that I don't think he has commented on it at all. Which is sketchy boots.

I just looked at his ISO and you are right as far as I could see, no comment on the "my civilian way" even though several of us have mentioned it. Odd indeed.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

Is that shade or something? Does it say something about my alignment? Who would be the most intersting player to flip for you right now?

It's not shade, I expressed an actual scumlean, just didn't feel the need to point that being generic means scum.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:46 pm My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

No, generic is posting stuff anyone would post, including scum. The opposite would be to bring something that is actually interesting.

Like, saying "oh no! town doctor is dead" is something I'd count as generic.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:46 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:27 pm Dyslexicon looks generic at first glance

Is that shade or something? Does it say something about my alignment? Who would be the most intersting player to flip for you right now?

This was my first thought too; though I don’t think it’s accurate. My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

I’ll answer one of the questions: rej flip is the obvious answer, but I think Drago or Epi is the more interesting bet.

Tony, if these would be the most interesting to have lynched why are you voting for Jack? Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you mean about rej, Drago, or Epi.

[mention]timmer[/mention]
I am still convinced that you are bad, the way the wagon got turned on me is prove enough.

First of all: You were also one of those that didn't fully track D0, so in order for you to contribute you jumped on my bait question and threw shades on me for not reading up myself. But at that point you also weren't updated, so if you were a civ that didn't catch up in the thread, then you should follow the same interest as me.

What I see you being an extremly opportunistic player and that this doesn't follow a civillian mindset. First your jump on my bait, then you magically getting rid of my wagon is well played. But tbh only the baddies play like that.

I will tell you what will happen: I will get lynched this DP, while my vote stays on you. And after that it will be clear that our case is V/W case.
A V/W case where the wolf is totally opportunistic going against civillians.

I think I described it correctly, what do you think?

I... think maybe the next time that you ask the other players to tell you how you should feel about what you read, you should preface it with (Oh and anyone who doesn't answer in a way I approve of is bad and will get my vote because clearly not doing what I asked means you are bad)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:50 am 4-6

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:24 amI'd be shocked if Dyslex isn't an Indy.

Lol. Ever been surprised before? =p

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:53 am Stop handing out underserved civ cards. Treat it like a scholarship, not candy. Only give it to the best ppl.

So not do what you literally did in your second post when you town read me based on the same post that has sig convinced I'm indy? Ok, cool.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:01 pmBut if you hand it like candy, you might miss out on the obvious scum. Point is, don't just give out town cred when it's undeserved. Reeks of TMI.

I'll hand out all the town cred I feel like, thanks! Better to have reads and express them than not. Reads can always change as the game changes and you know more info.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:02 pm Why bother finding town?

This is multiball with cults and a serial killer and a town traitor.

Spoiler: show

Are you triggered?

I feel like I should read the setup again >_>

Rej wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:19 pm Can someone summarize noteable events from D0 in one hunch?

Yeah! It would be like:
OMG OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE AAAAGAHGHAGHGHHH

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I think I'm liking Dom and probably Nova.
Rej being "that was my civillian way of" is lol.

Don't try to act like what I did there with the town read wasn't a joke cause it was.

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:35 pm I... think maybe the next time that you ask the other players to tell you how you should feel about what you read, you should preface it with (Oh and anyone who doesn't answer in a way I approve of is bad and will get my vote because clearly not doing what I asked means you are bad)

I mean if we all did this it would become very difficult to lay traps for the bad guys. But that being said, I don’t feel like your response to Rej at the beginning of this whole kerfuffle was worth all the attention it’s received. I haven’t followed it much otherwise

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:46 pmThis was my first thought too; though I don’t think it’s accurate. My guess on generic = has similar reads to him.

I’ll answer one of the questions: rej flip is the obvious answer, but I think Drago or Epi is the more interesting bet.

Generic being same reads doesn't make sense to me.
But I do agree Drag probably would be the most exciting flip