The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:56 am**

Cool.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:02 am**

Is anyone gunna claim killing Funny? Speak now or forever hold your peace

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:02 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:56 amCool.

Do you believe there is a mafia team?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:03 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:39 am Honestly I forgot Sabie is in this game "again"
at this point I am just sheeping JJJ's read on that slot, cause IDK what I could pull out of it that makes my eyes sparkle

My read means little if we're only dealing with independent(s). Any town read can be that.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:03 am**

Two people claimed town and flipped ??? roles, so either they didnt know, or they are baddies

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:04 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:03 am
Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:39 am Honestly I forgot Sabie is in this game "again"
at this point I am just sheeping JJJ's read on that slot, cause IDK what I could pull out of it that makes my eyes sparkle
My read means little if we're only dealing with independent(s). Any town read can be that.

idk if I am ready to believe that

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:07 am**

If Wisp is not lying about his role, and if his role has provided correct results, then the only teams left must feature:

Funnygurl555
ColinIsCool
sabie12
KitsuShel
Spacedaisy
TonyStarkPrime

If you believe Spacedaisy and trust her results, then remove both her and Tony.

Y'all can see then why I am losing faith that there even is a team. Either we're meant to assume Jack sent lies to Wisp and somehow figure that out, or some awkward team must exist in that pile. If my logic is correct.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:08 am**

somewhere we're meant to figure that out*

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:09 am**

I mean we have reason to believe there hasn't been a single mafia night kill and it's Day 4.

Unless we're to suggest the mafia killed Colin. Nobody is claiming the kill I guess.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:14 am**

[VOTE: sabie12] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:16 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:52 am I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.

Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:16 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:16 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:52 am I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.
Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.

If there is no mafia, there is no appropriate method to solve this game. It's an exercise in randomization.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:20 am**

When it comes to hunting for the definitely totally existent mafia team, I have nothing better than:

Tony fits with Colin. Colin could be mafia. Tony could be a conditional godfather instead of a conditional miller.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:21 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:16 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:16 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:52 am I could still chop Tony out of some desperate clinging to a hope that this is a Mafia game. Otherwise though I feel like I have made 800 meaningless posts.
Shove that up your POE.

I rust Wisp's role is legit, because he got my role correct. They Hally-SD-Wisp cross-mojonation on Night 1 was particularly convincing for me.

A "miller team" is not out of the question. Also possible that or Doctor is awesome and has protected the right person multiple times, obscuring the existence of a Mafia team.
If there is no mafia, there is no appropriate method to solve this game. It's an exercise in randomization.

No. Context clues, leaps of intuition. Let's kill some millers?

I absolutely 100% guarantee to you that my role is a) town, and b) exactly as Wisp saw. Beyond that, I don't know how evil Jack can be. There IS a Civilian faction, that I know.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine You sound like you want out. Also, you're bad.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:23 am**

If I were bad in this nonsense, I would not want out. I would just sit here and wait for my free win.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:24 am**

I'm frankly surprised I seem to be the only person at this conclusion.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:26 am**

at the miller claims, I've been thinking its a possibility for a while
who do we have left as a miller claim?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:28 am**

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:26 am at the miller claims, I've been thinking its a possibility for a while
who do we have left as a miller claim?

Kitsu
Tony

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:28 am**

Alison and Hally were both innocent miller claims.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:34 am**

Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:37 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:34 am Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.

If there’s a mafia they we’re probably told there’s some sort of miller theme among the civilians.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:47 am**

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] why did you elect to claim when you did?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:01 pm**

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:48 am or Daisy made this whole shit up for shit and giggles, which I still dont believe

I wish I was that creative

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:05 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:37 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:34 am Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.
If there’s a mafia they we’re probably told there’s some sort of miller theme among the civilians.

I disagree that that could be called probable. I do understand that you're trying to keep suspicion on Tony, so my post would work counter to that.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:27 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:37 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:34 am Tony was the second Miller claim, and I am inclined to believe it, because how could he know that there were going to be more? Being second, as a fake, is amazingly intuitive if that's the case.
If there’s a mafia they we’re probably told there’s some sort of miller theme among the civilians.
I disagree that that could be called probable. I do understand that you're trying to keep suspicion on Tony, so my post would work counter to that.

I don't care if you suspect me. I don't even know if there's a mafia, so forgive me if I view that suspicion of me being mafia as being meaningless.

If there is a mafia, then the game is broken if what I said is untrue. All the millers have to do is claim and half the game is cleared.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:40 pm**

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:54 pm**

That makes no sense too, the mafia can just claim Miller as well in that situation.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:13 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:54 pm That makes no sense too, the mafia can just claim Miller as well in that situation.

Only once they recognize the situation exists

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:46 pm**

I have to leave until Sunday. I will try to check in, but I'll be at a cottage with no internet. I can drive into town and get some, so I'll do that to get necessary game stuff done. Just don't expect me to be in the thread. Good luck folks!

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:55 pm**

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:33 am If Nutella really targeted me, then I don't see how the role pm I got could possibly be mistaken
Which means Epi is town

"Jack Sheppard - Town"
for the sake of clarity

What if we are just dancing around like headless chickens, and the mafia are just the ??? peeps?

I mean, have we discounted the possibility that even with me targeting you, you receive fakeclaims? That doesn't *seem* right but just want to think through all angles here

Probably there isn't a wolfteam tho lmao

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:59 pm**

hrrrrnnngggg
[VOTE: tonystarkprime] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:05 pm**

Tony, you didn't like the way I handled my role claim. My role is crippled, at least partially. I claimed it immediately when the game started.

Your role is crippled, at least partially. You claimed it immediately when the game started (at least right after Hally claimed).

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:51 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:37 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:35 am you're a suspect because like six people are borderline town confirmed and if the scum team and 3P aren't included in the 4 people below me in the poe and epi then I think you're next. Also I don't like how you handled your role claim. I'm a hundred percent on board with the way you're conducting the game thusfar, but I have to keep reality in mind.
Imagine you draw the role I've claimed. What do you do with it?
absolutely nothing.

what gives

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm**

I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:32 pm**

What if Tony is a godfather

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:33 pm**

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:37 pm**

I am just trying to understand what he means by conditional, and then how he forgets?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:52 pm**

Only thing stuck in my craw about a godfather Tony is "why does a godfather that checks as town claim to be a miller that checks as mafia?"

But if it's condition, then it is pretty much both anyway. Condition miller or conditional godfather.

iF tHeRe'S eVeN a MaFiA

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pm**

KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?

It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:07 pm**

I'm also hesitant to trust that Daisy's check was even on Tony. If the mafia have a redirector, how does that not get used on one of the checkers?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:16 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:53 pm
KitsuShel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 2:24 pm I said to Hally the other day that I’d name claim of I survived last night and I keep my word. Is that something that would be preferable at this point?
It might be. I have a theory about who you are and what you do, and it'd be nice to know whether or not I am on point.

I’m Jack Daw and I’m town. The downside to my Vig is that the kills are janitored due to the bullets being untraceable. So Agent Graves comes in afterward and cleans up the mess. (The heart attack scenes)

I chose FG night one because that was the town’s general consensus. I only have an action every other night, but I would’ve holstered anyway because the consensus wanted the vig to hold off if they knew they were janitoring. Last night, I again went with the suggestion of the town and chose Colin.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:17 pm**

lmao... didn't somebody call this? Janitored vig shots?

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:19 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:07 pm I'm also hesitant to trust that Daisy's check was even on Tony. If the mafia have a redirector, how does that not get used on one of the checkers?

I was hesitant with the game play here of pooling a POE on day zero, but at no point should a game ever be reliant upon a cop. Because there are many different factors, especially after you out your role. There’s misdirection or the fact that a cop could be insane/paranoid/naive and get faulty results.

While I’m not discounting Wisp or Daisy, I’m also not trusting any results as if they’re set in stone.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:20 pm**

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:17 pm lmao... didn't somebody call this? Janitored vig shots?

I definitely remember hinting/suggesting at an earlier point that the bullets were the reason for the janitoring.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm**

well there goes my theory that ???'s were wolves

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:23 pm**

Wisp wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:21 pm well there goes my theory that ???'s were wolves

They were in the POE, so there’s a dam good chance they probably were scummy.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:39 pm**

Yeah I had Kitsu pegged as the Question Mark Killer. That's why I suggested there is potential for third party there.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:40 pm**

Kitsu killed FG and Colin
Pawn killed Nanook

"Mafia" killed nobody first, then nobody the second time, and then nobody after that.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:42 pm**

If you're town, Kitsu, you were right to shoot people. Even if it's janitored, your role is a powerful that should not just be holstered.

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:43 pm**

well given what Epi isssssss
I can infer they are doing something, or at least someone is

Posted: **Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:43 pm**

better then doing nothing like Colin, which wasn't townie in the slightest

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