Mountain Mafia [END]

[DrWilgy]

I'm voting Wilgy for now.

I have no idea what cbob saw. Would welcome more theories. I'm beginning to assume it was two townies and that cbob just didn't really focus on it.

Interesting. Why?

That's a good question.

Metagut is the answer.

It is a bad answer.

If I don't have a better one by the end of the day, I'll be somewhere else.

I don't see it as a bad answer but to what meta are you comparing?

Now for some internal from Wilgy. Something I found it odd about my interactions with you so far is that I was Civ reading you when I'm normally always up your ass. Perhaps it's because we had similar thoughts regarding Sloonei. Reflecting on this puts me in a state of Civ reading you while also cautiously looking your way. Does that make sense and what are your thoughts on this?

[Sloonei]

Is anyone interested in doing the thing i'm proposing? The more the merrier!

[dunya]

I'm taking a short headache break brb.

dunya - obv I'm town cos Marmot told me I am.

DrWilgy - I have a theory regarding Wilgy and it adds up. I am sticking with my Town read on him.

sig - I went back to check my town read of sig. I stand by it tbh. There's nothing that pinged me about his ISO and I feel it was a general mirroring of his style and tone in Pirates. It's unfortunate he's MIA, but I'd rather lynch the other MIA before sig MIA.

Quin - seems very genuine. Has made real efforts at casing and scum hunting. Is he always right? No. But even when he's wrong he'll be vocal about it. Seems very townie to me.

Elohcin - The only pro-town thing I can say is that Epi defended her and he's her husband and should know her better than anyone else right? also she's a mom and has a job and life is busy. (deleted untownie reasons, which I'll post in my next post)

[dunya]

RIP epi and welcome niju

Ugh I'm not feeling super confident about anything and would go along with whatever tbh. I'd vote for Sig, I'd vote for Quin, I'd maybe vote for Kyle, heck I'd even vote for Sloonei. LC and DDL I'm less inclined to suspect but I could be wrong.

I'm having a hard time trusting anyone at this point and that's sad this late in the game.

Let's talk about why we think mafia would kill epi. Do you think we can glean any info from that?

He was one of the most civ looking players in the game.

If that was the reason, they'd have targeted nutella or sloonei imo.

Or you!

[Kylemii]

Also I don't agree with the idea that cbobs 2 shot cop check is useless just because one check only tells lies and the other only tells truths.

I'm voting Wilgy for now.

I have no idea what cbob saw. Would welcome more theories. I'm beginning to assume it was two townies and that cbob just didn't really focus on it.

This is my assumption. A role like that is more likely to be borderline useless than useful. Not knowing which of the two reads you receive is true means not trusting either one, so no real information can be gained.

until one of the two flips but there's also a chance one of his targets was night killed which would basically render his power useless.

A player getting night killed also serves as an alignment indicator. Baddies don't kill their own, except on very rare occasions, and there's only 1 vig kill.

[dunya]

DDL - He is an enigma. He started off really slow. I like some of his observations, and others I think are completely whack and he still makes them and stands by them. Quin is playing a bad game like old DDL. *votes Quin*. I hated that, but I also loved it. There's more random instances of good vibes than bad as a whole, so I'll read him Town.

nilju - the new replacement. wow. Townie defense? You're town until proven guilty?

speedchuck - He makes a genuine effort at trying to come to conclusions on why things happened, I suppose. That's the only pro-town thing I can think of at this point.

[dunya]

Also I don't agree with the idea that cbobs 2 shot cop check is useless just because one check only tells lies and the other only tells truths.

I'm voting Wilgy for now.

I have no idea what cbob saw. Would welcome more theories. I'm beginning to assume it was two townies and that cbob just didn't really focus on it.

This is my assumption. A role like that is more likely to be borderline useless than useful. Not knowing which of the two reads you receive is true means not trusting either one, so no real information can be gained.

until one of the two flips but there's also a chance one of his targets was night killed which would basically render his power useless.

A player getting night killed also serves as an alignment indicator. Baddies don't kill their own, except on very rare occasions, and there's only 1 vig kill.

you're correct, I'm sorry.

[speedchuck]

I'm voting Wilgy for now.

I have no idea what cbob saw. Would welcome more theories. I'm beginning to assume it was two townies and that cbob just didn't really focus on it.

Interesting. Why?

That's a good question.

Metagut is the answer.

It is a bad answer.

If I don't have a better one by the end of the day, I'll be somewhere else.

I don't see it as a bad answer but to what meta are you comparing?

Now for some internal from Wilgy. Something I found it odd about my interactions with you so far is that I was Civ reading you when I'm normally always up your ass. Perhaps it's because we had similar thoughts regarding Sloonei. Reflecting on this puts me in a state of Civ reading you while also cautiously looking your way. Does that make sense and what are your thoughts on this?

It's a bad answer because I'm getting your meta from Pirates. I was scum in that game, but if I had been town, I would have townread you so hard. Looking back at your ISO, I see a lot of questions and not many answers. When you finally gave reads, they weren't very substantiated (And in the case of the reads you gave DDL, you covered them up with a cute [guess what my reads are] game). I'm just not seeing any of the conviction, drive, and assurance you had as town (yes, even with a gimmick). Prove me wrong.
(And yeah, my scumread on you would hope that it's not RL + a 5k post game discouraging you.)
I don't feel like I have any reason to read you as town. Your back and forth with JJJ I could see between scummates. I don't think you're w/w with Quin. Too much buddying there. That's what I got from your ISO.

Regarding your reasoning: It makes pretty good sense to me, yeah. I don't have many thoughts on it. I've had different people suspect me this game than the norm.

To everyone else: I recommend you ISO Wilgy. He only has 2 pages of posts. Please tell me what you think.

[dunya]

speedchuck - I can't put my finger on it yet (and also I haven't had a chance to really iso speed yet but I will), but there's something here that doesn't add up. He doesn't seem focused and in townie mode to me. I feel like sometimes he's intentionally trying to distance himself from the thread. I want to go back and see how likely a JJJ/speedchuck pairing would be, but I can see it. He's going to be my first focus.

Elochin - What I particularly didn't like, however, was how she clarified that she's not active as either Town or Scum (yesterday) to me. It felt almost as an early defence. She keeps throwing her activity around, when it wasn't he activity that I was accusing her off solely. I mean, I did say I found it odd how she has posted loads about not having time and what she has to do, but still. I called her out on a lot of inconsistencies too. I can't town read her, sorry. Sorry if I'm wrong, because I get how you have kids and a husband and a job. But like, have those things too and she yourself said her activity level is not alignment indicative, so, I'll go with my scum read on her and sorry if I'm wrong. I still think placing Dom as a top suspect before INH in the list she made was really odd too, regardless of how early it was and especially how early in the game it was: she wanted Dom lynched before INH. She made a concious decision in that regard.

nijuu - sorry, but like, out of sig and you, I think you're the last scum. I hope you can convince us to look elsewhere.

so basically, speed, eloh and nilju are my current scum reads. If one of them isn't, I'd look into Kyle first because I am basing most of my read on what I think a scum Kyle wouldn't resort to in a reaction, but I could be wrong.

[speedchuck]

speedchuck - I can't put my finger on it yet (and also I haven't had a chance to really iso speed yet but I will), but there's something here that doesn't add up. He doesn't seem focused and in townie mode to me. I feel like sometimes he's intentionally trying to distance himself from the thread. I want to go back and see how likely a JJJ/speedchuck pairing would be, but I can see it. He's going to be my first focus.

I still think you're town, but I'm getting really tired of you pointing suspicion at me, saying you're going to substantiate it, and then never doing so. I can't dispute a big ball of nothing.

Feeling like a cBob/Sloonei situation.

[dunya]

speedchuck - I can't put my finger on it yet (and also I haven't had a chance to really iso speed yet but I will), but there's something here that doesn't add up. He doesn't seem focused and in townie mode to me. I feel like sometimes he's intentionally trying to distance himself from the thread. I want to go back and see how likely a JJJ/speedchuck pairing would be, but I can see it. He's going to be my first focus.

I still think you're town, but I'm getting really tired of you pointing suspicion at me, saying you're going to substantiate it, and then never doing so. I can't dispute a big ball of nothing.

Feeling like a cBob/Sloonei situation.

well I had to do my case on cBob which took all my time and I threw up yesterday and today so I don't feel like doing big reading analysis right now so there's that.

are you trying to distance yourself from the thread?

[dunya]

I am trying to be as active as possible, but I'm really sorry, I have papers and exams as well as everything else going on so if I'm lagging, don't let me hinder you all.

[DrWilgy]

Dragon D. Luffy -
Civ due to tone and reasoning. I've meta read him as civ the entire game.
Bad due to voting record. DDL had voted for Jack day 2, Bob day 3 (when J3 was a heavily discussed option), If my memory serves was a lead pusher of the Malakim wagon.

DrWilgy -
Civ due to his overall attractiveness.
Bad due to... his overall attractiveness?

dunya -
Civ due to being very vocal. I did not recall seeing anything I directly was opposed to in the moment other than their suspicion on me.
Bad due to interactions with J3.

Elohcin -
Civ due to interactions with J3. While not a negative voting record I so far have had no harsh qualms with the results of her votes.
Bad due to interactions with me that I noticed earlier in the game. Eloh was playing catch up (like someone else who I won't mention) and had called me scummy for a single sentence regarding daisy. It stuck with me and still does.

And I only got through 3 before I have to leave. Sorry Sloonbot, I'll try to finish the rest later. I did find that I putting reason behind Dunya being civ was much harder than the other two, and very much forced. I don't know if this is due to a lack of knowledge or not. I should reflect on this.

[speedchuck]

Reasons for town

Dragon D. Luffy - genuine tone
DrWilgy - No reasons
dunya (replaced sprityo) - tons of content, independent well-substantiated reads (except for me)
Elohcin - Eloh is Eloh. Scum Eloh would be better at the game than this.
nijuukyugou (replaced insertnamehere) (replaced Glorfindel)
Kylemii - lots of content, genuine tone
Long Con - Ballsy chase of Epi
nutella - D1 lynch reaction, decent reads of the thread, metaread matches all non-Phenon town nutellas
Quin - supergenuine tone. People are scumreading quin for being honest and sticking to his guns even when wrong, which is his meta. Reminds me of Phenon!Quin.
sig - JJJ went after him, right?
Sloonei - Possibly cBob check at some point, good suspicions despite vote placement, good metaread, tons of spontantous content
speedchuck - lol

[speedchuck]

speedchuck - I can't put my finger on it yet (and also I haven't had a chance to really iso speed yet but I will), but there's something here that doesn't add up. He doesn't seem focused and in townie mode to me. I feel like sometimes he's intentionally trying to distance himself from the thread. I want to go back and see how likely a JJJ/speedchuck pairing would be, but I can see it. He's going to be my first focus.

I still think you're town, but I'm getting really tired of you pointing suspicion at me, saying you're going to substantiate it, and then never doing so. I can't dispute a big ball of nothing.

Feeling like a cBob/Sloonei situation.

well I had to do my case on cBob which took all my time and I threw up yesterday and today so I don't feel like doing big reading analysis right now so there's that.

are you trying to distance yourself from the thread?

I'm sorry to hear that. I understand. Sorry, forgot. Throwing up is basically the worst thing, and I legit have a phobia of it.

I don't know what "distance myself from the thread" means. I'm actually curious, please elaborate

[Kylemii]

Is anyone interested in doing the thing i'm proposing? The more the merrier!

Do you need it soon? To do what you're planning?

I won't have time to sit down and get into it until around 5pm PST after they take all my blood away.

[Sloonei]

Is anyone interested in doing the thing i'm proposing? The more the merrier!

Do you need it soon? To do what you're planning?

I won't have time to sit down and get into it until around 5pm PST after they take all my blood away.

I don't need huge lists, a one-sentence answer works perfectly fine. The sooner we have results, the sooner we can use them.

[Sloonei]

Dragon D. Luffy -
Civ due to tone and reasoning. I've meta read him as civ the entire game.
Bad due to voting record. DDL had voted for Jack day 2, Bob day 3 (when J3 was a heavily discussed option), If my memory serves was a lead pusher of the Malakim wagon.

DrWilgy -
Civ due to his overall attractiveness.
Bad due to... his overall attractiveness?

dunya -
Civ due to being very vocal. I did not recall seeing anything I directly was opposed to in the moment other than their suspicion on me.
Bad due to interactions with J3.

Elohcin -
Civ due to interactions with J3. While not a negative voting record I so far have had no harsh qualms with the results of her votes.
Bad due to interactions with me that I noticed earlier in the game. Eloh was playing catch up (like someone else who I won't mention) and had called me scummy for a single sentence regarding daisy. It stuck with me and still does.

And I only got through 3 before I have to leave. Sorry Sloonbot, I'll try to finish the rest later. I did find that I putting reason behind Dunya being civ was much harder than the other two, and very much forced. I don't know if this is due to a lack of knowledge or not. I should reflect on this.

I appreciate that you're able to give both reads for these folks and it's certainly good to have them, but for the purposes of the exercise I'm proposing I only need town reads right now.

[DrWilgy]

Well shit. Remove the scum reads and call it a day.

[Kylemii]

slooeni you're at exactly 666 posts that's the DEVILS number

[Sloonei]

slooeni you're at exactly 666 posts that's the DEVILS number

[speedchuck]

Peh

I'm getting the after-lunch drowsies.

Someone ISO Wilgy other than me. Someone do it. Kylemii, you do it.

[speedchuck]

I didn't know Wilgy was playing in this game????

Actually he isn't, he forgot to use blue font.

DDL and Wilgy not w/w

And I'm getting a good feeling from DDL's ISO.

[Kylemii]

focusing only on things that I've seen as civ indicators from memory

Dragon D. Luffy - pretty rough aggro between him and Jay early on, aggro seems genuine, would be a buck wild strategy if w/w

DrWilgy - hmmmm.... he seems relaxed. Jay also did go after him quite a bit early on.

dunya - has put a huge amount of effort into this game, and if whoeverthefuck said it is to be believe then this is probably civ dunya

Elohcin - Jay went after her in a way which seemed too strong for distancing.

Kylemii - role card

Long Con - hmm.... at the time it was happening, back on day 1 when he was going after Epignosis I felt like the passion in his pursuit felt genuine

nijuukyugou - has contributing a lot lately compared to previous slot holders. technically speaking she has infinitely increased her player slots number of posts

nutella - mechanically likely to be a specific civ role, if she wasn't she would have drawn attention by now but the real owner of that role

Quin - at times has seemed genuine and reasonable

sig - ehh.... none. well... Jay went after sig early on in a way which might have been sowing seeds or distancing, there's a nonzero possibility that it's the former.

Sloonei - mechanics.... I think? but also good vibes. has been working hard

speedchuck - there was an early clash between speed and Jay that I think was slightly too strong to be distancing

[speedchuck]

Revised, more confident rainbow after looking at about 4 ISOs (I'll admit to skimming though)

speedchuck
Sloonei
dunya
nutella
Dragon D. Luffy
Quin
nijuukyugou
Kylemii
Long Con
sig
Elohcin
DrWilgy

[Kylemii]

this probably wasn't the intent of the excercise but with some of those I had to look back into their posts and Jay's posts, I feel a little bit better about a few players than I did before

[Dragon D. Luffy]

RIP epi and welcome niju

Ugh I'm not feeling super confident about anything and would go along with whatever tbh. I'd vote for Sig, I'd vote for Quin, I'd maybe vote for Kyle, heck I'd even vote for Sloonei. LC and DDL I'm less inclined to suspect but I could be wrong.

I'm having a hard time trusting anyone at this point and that's sad this late in the game.

Let's talk about why we think mafia would kill epi. Do you think we can glean any info from that?

He was one of the most civ looking players in the game.

If that was the reason, they'd have targeted nutella or sloonei imo.

They targeted Daisy (also very civ looking), Jack (a town leader whose civ-status seemed to be increasing), and another three people who might include those you mentioned.

So far I think they have picked good targets. You could argue Nutella is not a high poster enough to be such an immediate threat, while Sloonei's presence made the eventual Bob lynch more likely which is good for them.

[Kylemii]

i have to look back and see if something i remember LC saying actually happened or if i just dreamed it

[speedchuck]

RIP epi and welcome niju

Ugh I'm not feeling super confident about anything and would go along with whatever tbh. I'd vote for Sig, I'd vote for Quin, I'd maybe vote for Kyle, heck I'd even vote for Sloonei. LC and DDL I'm less inclined to suspect but I could be wrong.

I'm having a hard time trusting anyone at this point and that's sad this late in the game.

Let's talk about why we think mafia would kill epi. Do you think we can glean any info from that?

He was one of the most civ looking players in the game.

If that was the reason, they'd have targeted nutella or sloonei imo.

They targeted Daisy (also very civ looking), Jack (a town leader whose civ-status seemed to be increasing), and another three people who might include those you mentioned.

So far I think they have picked good targets. You could argue Nutella is not a high poster enough to be such an immediate threat, while Sloonei's presence made the eventual Bob lynch more likely which is good for them.

Plus nobody was even tinfoiling Epi

[Kylemii]

i have to look back and see if something i remember LC saying actually happened or if i just dreamed it

nevermind, apparently it was just a dream

[speedchuck]

i have to look back and see if something i remember LC saying actually happened or if i just dreamed it

nevermind, apparently it was just a dream

Kylemii mafias in his dreams now

[Sloonei]

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention], care to give us a list of reasons to read everyone as town?

[Kylemii]

i have to look back and see if something i remember LC saying actually happened or if i just dreamed it

nevermind, apparently it was just a dream

Kylemii mafias in his dreams now

Or maybe I've just ascended and now my dreams contain cryptic clues to solve mafia like that dude from Twin Peaks.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

@Dragon D. Luffy, care to give us a list of reasons to read everyone as town?

Yes, but give me a few hours.

[Dragon D. Luffy]

The list will probably boil down to the word "gut" being repeated 17 times tho.

[Sloonei]

@Dragon D. Luffy, care to give us a list of reasons to read everyone as town?

Yes, but give me a few hours.

is there any way we can expedite that? they don't need to be thorough reads. 1-2 sentences is all I need.

[speedchuck]

i have to look back and see if something i remember LC saying actually happened or if i just dreamed it

nevermind, apparently it was just a dream

Kylemii mafias in his dreams now

Or maybe I've just ascended and now my dreams contain cryptic clues to solve mafia like that dude from Twin Peaks.

What do they tell you about Wilgy?

But no, seriously, please ISO Wilgy. I'm more interested in your opinion on him than anyone else's.

[dunya]

come on LC (or kyle or quin or wilgy) join usss

I don't know the 3J case. I would rather CFD Eloh if my vote is to move.

Elohcin

Back to Mesk

I can see this whole bullshit case as distancing from Eloh. He voted for her and jumped to Mesk like 5 mins later. I don't think he was actively trying to get Eloh lynched. I read that segment and everyone apart from Quin was opposed. He was pushing it for the sake of pushing it. Jay is a great bullshitter, he didn't even try that hard.

That's how I see how that went down anyway.

Also, the whole Eloh episode should clear Quin even more imo.

[nutella]

Man I woke up this morning thinking "hmm..... actually.... Sloonei is totally bad and has been playing us and I'm totally gonna vote for him" but apparently you guys think there's decent hints that cbob cop-checked him. Meh. Idk if I'm totally sold on that, but I'm also kinda tinfoiling hard rn and occam's razor is that Sloonei is town as town can be. Kyle is probably my next likely vote, but I haven't really figured out why I'm leaning that way either. Mostly I just feel way more lost as to who could be bad after the cbob flip than I have been for most of the game and I'm reconsidering some possibilities.

Sloonei, I don't really feel like doing your exercise and I honestly don't see how it's helpful. I don't think it's a helpful way of thinking about players or trying to solve the game. I'll just convince myself that everyone has some reason to be good and I'll never find scum that way. I'm not sure what you're getting out of this exercise but IMO people's answers so far have been total fluff and devoid of constructive gameplay. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe you're figuring out which players show a pattern of weakest/least reason to look civ, but I personally don't view this little game you set up as a particularly town way of solving the game. If anything it feels eerily similar to Jay urging everyone to do the GTHs, and he was bad.

What's your reasoning for looking at why people look town and figuring out which of those are weakest, instead of the other way around, looking at reasons everyone could look bad and seeing which are strongest?

[Elohcin]

speedchuck - I can't put my finger on it yet (and also I haven't had a chance to really iso speed yet but I will), but there's something here that doesn't add up. He doesn't seem focused and in townie mode to me. I feel like sometimes he's intentionally trying to distance himself from the thread. I want to go back and see how likely a JJJ/speedchuck pairing would be, but I can see it. He's going to be my first focus.

Elochin - What I particularly didn't like, however, was how she clarified that she's not active as either Town or Scum (yesterday) to me. It felt almost as an early defence. She keeps throwing her activity around, when it wasn't he activity that I was accusing her off solely. I mean, I did say I found it odd how she has posted loads about not having time and what she has to do, but still. I called her out on a lot of inconsistencies too. I can't town read her, sorry. Sorry if I'm wrong, because I get how you have kids and a husband and a job. But like, have those things too and she yourself said her activity level is not alignment indicative, so, I'll go with my scum read on her and sorry if I'm wrong. I still think placing Dom as a top suspect before INH in the list she made was really odd too, regardless of how early it was and especially how early in the game it was: she wanted Dom lynched before INH. She made a concious decision in that regard.

nijuu - sorry, but like, out of sig and you, I think you're the last scum. I hope you can convince us to look elsewhere.

so basically, speed, eloh and nilju are my current scum reads. If one of them isn't, I'd look into Kyle first because I am basing most of my read on what I think a scum Kyle wouldn't resort to in a reaction, but I could be wrong.

I don't even know what to say to this. You have been on me over and over for not contributing enough so I tell you I don't ever contribute as much as you are, whether bad or good. Then, you say that my participation isn't even the big reason why you are after me and fault me for defending myself with reasons why I don't participate like you.
You get on me for a speedy, upchucked rainbow list that I did just to try to put some kind of effort in the beginning of the game. I only did it because I felt pressured to give reads when I didn't really have any yet. I tell you you're reading too much into it...that it was just a quick thing I posted so I could get to other things needing my attention and you keep harping on it. Do you not see all the other reads I've given? I swear if its not in fancy colors or in ISO form, you just discredit it and act as if it's not there. I know you're sick and I know it sucks...so I'm sorry to go after you like this. But if you want to think I'm bad, please find something...anything other than my lack of intense ISOs and my stupid rainbow list.

[Sloonei]

come on LC (or kyle or quin or wilgy) join usss

I don't know the 3J case. I would rather CFD Eloh if my vote is to move.

Elohcin

Back to Mesk

I can see this whole bullshit case as distancing from Eloh. He voted for her and jumped to Mesk like 5 mins later. I don't think he was actively trying to get Eloh lynched. I read that segment and everyone apart from Quin was opposed. He was pushing it for the sake of pushing it. Jay is a great bullshitter, he didn't even try that hard.

That's how I see how that went down anyway.

Also, the whole Eloh episode should clear Quin even more imo.

In the moment it felt like he was pushing it to get her lynched. He made a big ISO case against her, and when I called on him to name one suspect above all others to push a lynch against, he named Elohcin and pushed her lynch. Mesk came up and gained more traction.

[Sloonei]

Man I woke up this morning thinking "hmm..... actually.... Sloonei is totally bad and has been playing us and I'm totally gonna vote for him" but apparently you guys think there's decent hints that cbob cop-checked him. Meh. Idk if I'm totally sold on that, but I'm also kinda tinfoiling hard rn and occam's razor is that Sloonei is town as town can be. Kyle is probably my next likely vote, but I haven't really figured out why I'm leaning that way either. Mostly I just feel way more lost as to who could be bad after the cbob flip than I have been for most of the game and I'm reconsidering some possibilities.

Sloonei, I don't really feel like doing your exercise and I honestly don't see how it's helpful. I don't think it's a helpful way of thinking about players or trying to solve the game. I'll just convince myself that everyone has some reason to be good and I'll never find scum that way. I'm not sure what you're getting out of this exercise but IMO people's answers so far have been total fluff and devoid of constructive gameplay. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe you're figuring out which players show a pattern of weakest/least reason to look civ, but I personally don't view this little game you set up as a particularly town way of solving the game. If anything it feels eerily similar to Jay urging everyone to do the GTHs, and he was bad.

What's your reasoning for looking at why people look town and figuring out which of those are weakest, instead of the other way around, looking at reasons everyone could look bad and seeing which are strongest?

I'm not asking anyone to adopt the mindset that everybody is town. I'm just asking people to rack their brains for a reason why everybody could be town. After you make the list, you can throw those reads out the window.

[Elohcin]

I agree with nutella that slooneis adventure to find civs is silly.

[nutella]

Tbh the more I think about it, unless I'm misremembering something, there's actually no reason at all to clear Sloonei based on the day 2 no-lynch. On the poll, it was 5-5 Jack-Sloonei. In real count, unless Sutter Buttes was in play, it was 6-5 Jack-Sloonei. If SB was hiding Sloonei it would be 6-4, but Jack was already in the lead so it's irrelevant. I think Jack was Aconcagua and survived the lynch (using up his "first attempt on his life" so he was then vulnerable to the night kill). Sloonei's role doesn't enter into it at all if that was the case.

[speedchuck]

You get on me for a speedy, upchucked rainbow list

Don't blame me for this.

Man I woke up this morning thinking "hmm..... actually.... Sloonei is totally bad and has been playing us and I'm totally gonna vote for him" but apparently you guys think there's decent hints that cbob cop-checked him. Meh. Idk if I'm totally sold on that, but I'm also kinda tinfoiling hard rn and occam's razor is that Sloonei is town as town can be. Kyle is probably my next likely vote, but I haven't really figured out why I'm leaning that way either. Mostly I just feel way more lost as to who could be bad after the cbob flip than I have been for most of the game and I'm reconsidering some possibilities.

Sloon the man himself disputes the idea that bob got a check on him. As of yet, no townfirms.

What do you think of Wilgy, nutella?

[Kylemii]

i have to look back and see if something i remember LC saying actually happened or if i just dreamed it

nevermind, apparently it was just a dream

Kylemii mafias in his dreams now

Or maybe I've just ascended and now my dreams contain cryptic clues to solve mafia like that dude from Twin Peaks.

What do they tell you about Wilgy?

But no, seriously, please ISO Wilgy. I'm more interested in your opinion on him than anyone else's.

I read through Wilgy's posts for Sloonei's excercise, while he hasn't pushed any personally strong convictions like he did in Pirates. Other than that, I didn't see anything specifically alignment indicative. Jay went after Doctor Wilgy pretty early on in a way that seemed a little too hot for distancing.


Why are you so interested in my view on the Wilgster?

[Sloonei]

I do think I'd be more likely to get a check from Bob than most other players. I just refuted the notion that he had a read on me at a specific point, because I went from being his top suspect on Day 2, to a townread during Night 2. But I must have had his attention and if he had a check available, it seems reasonable to consider that I could have been a person he'd want to investigate.
I haven't given much thought to how he would have used his role. That sort of thing is not my forte.

[Sloonei]

Tbh the more I think about it, unless I'm misremembering something, there's actually no reason at all to clear Sloonei based on the day 2 no-lynch. On the poll, it was 5-5 Jack-Sloonei. In real count, unless Sutter Buttes was in play, it was 6-5 Jack-Sloonei. If SB was hiding Sloonei it would be 6-4, but Jack was already in the lead so it's irrelevant. I think Jack was Aconcagua and survived the lynch (using up his "first attempt on his life" so he was then vulnerable to the night kill). Sloonei's role doesn't enter into it at all if that was the case.

[speedchuck]

i have to look back and see if something i remember LC saying actually happened or if i just dreamed it

nevermind, apparently it was just a dream

Kylemii mafias in his dreams now

Or maybe I've just ascended and now my dreams contain cryptic clues to solve mafia like that dude from Twin Peaks.

What do they tell you about Wilgy?

But no, seriously, please ISO Wilgy. I'm more interested in your opinion on him than anyone else's.

I read through Wilgy's posts for Sloonei's excercise, while he hasn't pushed any personally strong convictions like he did in Pirates. Other than that, I didn't see anything specifically alignment indicative. Jay went after Doctor Wilgy pretty early on in a way that seemed a little too hot for distancing.


Why are you so interested in my view on the Wilgster?

Looking for theoretical Wilgy scummates. Could you show me this "hot not-distancing?" I must have missed it, because I got Wilgy as a suspecto numero one.

[Kylemii]

Tbh the more I think about it, unless I'm misremembering something, there's actually no reason at all to clear Sloonei based on the day 2 no-lynch. On the poll, it was 5-5 Jack-Sloonei. In real count, unless Sutter Buttes was in play, it was 6-5 Jack-Sloonei. If SB was hiding Sloonei it would be 6-4, but Jack was already in the lead so it's irrelevant. I think Jack was Aconcagua and survived the lynch (using up his "first attempt on his life" so he was then vulnerable to the night kill). Sloonei's role doesn't enter into it at all if that was the case.

Sloonei hinted at thinking the lynch would end in a no lynvh, and he did so earlier than Jack did. that's the whole reason why I suspected Jack was lying