The Syndicate

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:03 pm

cobbler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:52 pm this is all perfectly reasonable. i don't know why you were so hesitant to just post this or something similar originally. thank you though for engaging

because it's not alignment indicative, it's basically just fluff and if i hadn't posted anything proto would have come eventually come around to town-reading me anyway.

cobbler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:07 pm

Lavender wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:01 pm cobbler - gut scum read

is there anything in particular that contributed to this read that i can address?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:29 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:37 am hillo

happy to have rolld town. been years since ive played as maf. if i could roll town for the rest of my life i wouldnt even complain. here is a wholesome meme i just sent a friend who asked me to try to cheer her up

Spoiler: show

Let's be friends please.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:32 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:49 am mm my eyes started glazing over towards the last part of day 1. i will need to eat breakfast first and focus.

i keep rolling around in my head the idea to townread urist but im not feeling it. or like i feel some paranoia about it. i wanna be correct i dont wanna make one single wrong read

i feel 0 paranoia about MP7 being town

Talk to me more about this. Is this 0 paranoia Day 1 level, or in general, or... ?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:11 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:52 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:03 am [Wall]

A couple of things. I give town reads (or scum reads) if I have them early game. Doesn't always happen, just if I get a feeling for someone (easier with meta). Anyway, I think I had like 7 town reads on D0 in Space Invaders and they were all correct. Not saying this is always going to happen, I'm not that magical, but it is possible to read people off of small things and details, which is often how I get my reads early on (and probably how I should get most of my reads for the whole game which I'm definitely alive for. I'm also not open wolfing, I'm just in love with Scar. Let me feel my oats. I'm actually open towning. =p

I'm going to be transparent with you and say that I didn't actually scum read you off of zero posts lol. I just thought you were a player likely to give some reaction or take it more seriously. And you're reaction was kind of feeling out if I was serious and kind of saying I shouldn't keep doing it.Which we'll see. =) What I will say is that you seem very self aware here. I wish I had seen your scum game, cause I remember you saying you weren't past your scum range at a point last game where I felt you were past most people's scum game.

Also, I disagree with your read on Scirrus for those things and that saying you're happy to be town is scummy in general. I actually think the opposite usually. Depends on how genuine it seems, but I know a lot of players who prefer town much more than scum, myself included. Scirrus should do things though, but he vibes like normal Scirrus to me. But we have all the time in the world to figure this out.

Small thing, but why is would it be a problem to explain why you potentially flipped a read? Can't you just explain why you flipped it? Really not trying to throw shade here, but it's just confusing to me. I know we have very different styles, so I'm more so trying to get even more into how you think about the game.

Gut town reading Dizzy a bit more for the "Small thing" part. I'm not sure wolf Dizzy thinks to say that, and even if so, not sure if it would be posted anyway.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:17 pm I'll say more things eventually.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:29 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:03 am

Dyslexicon - confusing for me. Need to sort later. Giving out townreads like candy. Apparently this is in line with their townplay meta. Alison can confirm/correct me on this since they did a meta dive in Space Invaders, although they were mafia in that game. Dizzy scumreading me for not posting a wall (here it is buddy) is... confusing. I kind of read it as a trap post, rather than an actual scumread on me. I think Dizzy wants to find scum by seeing who agrees with the read that I am scum for not having posted a wall yet. If they keep pushing me for not writing mechanical walls, I would kind of scumread them, but I think they will back off this strat anyway now I have called it out as a potential tactic.

Kind of openwolfing maybe with all the scar references (roleclaiming characters is not allowed so not sure how much they are flirting with that rule). Feel pretty safe that they wouldnt kill me Night 1 since although I am now new to Syndicate, I am still new enough they would give me a N1 pass. Not 100% on that. A bit selfish of me to put this out there because now there are wifom reasons to keep me alive if they are mafia, but ho hum, I need my forum mafia fix and I like still being in the game.

I can confirm that he does that with early town reads. That's the way most of the strong town players on our site play. They're all about forming town cores early and solving through POE. Hally does that as well (not sure if you've played with them yet). Having everyone as null or focusing mostly on pushing scum reads isn't isn't as effective because it doesn't focus on building trust within the town.

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:03 am Scirrus - I read as hard scum.

"Lol I love this. Are you town? It would be cool if you are " - scummy imo

"(I swear if you let me get misyeeted this game I will have give you the worst berating a 9 can possibly give)" - implying town alignment again

" I hope we get to both be town again too! But only time will tell I suppose " - implying town alignment again

liking Urist for asking if they should wait to give townreads is weird to me. Someone asking if they should wait to give reads is more likely mafia trying to avoid giving reads for as long as possible to make their alignment more difficult to determine.

"Wouldn't it be awesome if we were all town" - implying town again

How is that first sentence scummy? if you're gonna call me hard scum I'd think you should have something a little more developed than that

Disagree on Urist. Mafia would generally be more self-aware than that imo. They would ask their scummates in scumchat, not ask a question to the thread that makes them look bad.

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:03 am Overall I dislike the spamming of posts which just repeat that they are town, and how great it is to be town, and hoping others are town with them.

Explain what is scummy about this. I'm curious

I like being town and I'm not sorry about it

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:03 am Urist - I take the song as slightly scummy if anything. Reasoning? Trying too hard.

They scumread dizzy as 99% mafia. Not sure how they can do that this early. Reeks of a fake read or bussing for credit.

Softing PR this early is also kid of scummy imo. Its bad if you are really PR, and Urist is pretty good at mafia from looking at the insane setup they created on 451, and its confusing for town if you are softing as a vanilla town, and makes it more likely to make a real PR pressured to out. Overall I hate it.

"I am town, and yes it's very cool. I get so emotionally exhausted when playing scum, it's ridic. Glad I don't have to do that here" - dislike statements like these and read them as slightly scummy, might just need to get some more forum games under my belt since I seem to see a lot of these "phew im so glad im town" posts on day 1 in forum games.

Eh, vanilla town soft PR roles all the time, or try to make themselves seem like they are a a PR, to draw the NK and protect the real PRs. Hard claiming is different though.

I don't really get your reads. I don't like that you have any town reads other then a null to town

I'm not exactly sure what the mafia motivation for you to narrate what you plan to do is though. Like narrating that you will scum read dizzy if he keeps doing X where obviously he can read this.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:54 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:51 am scirrus is maybe the top poster but i dont feel like he has given me the "key" to unlock the "door" to his "mind" and figure out how he works. i cant get a read on him

gun to my head i dont have a read on dizzy as well and i wished this wasnt so since he wasnt hard at all to townread last game. this could be on my part (paranoia that i might be wrong) (or paranoia that i might be overestimating myself and "spreading myself too thin" which might result in inaccurate reads if i try too hard). i dunno

my biggest focus this game will be trying to read alison. i really wish that if shes scum i can catch her. this is me reading all of alison's posts carefully and trying to catch her scumslip

Do you have any questions for me? I'm not sure really how to address this or if I even can, lol.

I feel like I'm more or less an open book when I play but apparently others don't see it. Maybe it's bc I'm new, dunno

What made DIzzy easy to read for you last game?

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:30 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:28 pm On a skim of lavenders posts, I disagree with a lot of it but read them likely town. I confirm reaction testing and doing non standard plays is within his town meta. It's within their maf meta too, but I lean it town for now.

how would you differentiate a mafia reaction test from a town one

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:31 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:28 pm On a skim of lavenders posts, I disagree with a lot of it but read them likely town. I confirm reaction testing and doing non standard plays is within his town meta. It's within their maf meta too, but I lean it town for now.

Do you mind elaborating on this for me if you can? Thanks proto!

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:59 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:37 pm

cobbler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:15 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:13 pm i doubt it was a scumslip cob =))

i agree it's unlikely. i was waiting to see if anyone else brought it up. but i have to be honest about it and say that i had a very visceral reaction to reading it

you can be town for the "i was waiting to see if anyone else brought it up"

(to clarify, im highly sure all of us perceived dizzy's sentence as a townread. i think you entertaining the possibility of someone else bringing it up as a potential scumslip is actually extraordinarily towny. i think its unlikely if u are scum u came up with that out of everything else u could have come up with)

Why do you think that sentiment is townie?

Lavender wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:37 pm

Lavender wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:33 pm

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:28 pm On a skim of lavenders posts, I disagree with a lot of it but read them likely town. I confirm reaction testing and doing non standard plays is within his town meta. It's within their maf meta too, but I lean it town for now.

we both hard tr tutuu, i'd argue that's a pretty big commonality (since we also agreed on that before urist posted their tr on tutuu)

what do u most disagree with about my hot reads

Oh wait i'm wrong, urist's tr on tutuu came before urs

ergo

i don't trust u

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:17 pm I'll say more things eventually.

Im starting to get a PR read from LC now. Intentionally coasting to be unlikely to be voted since we HAVE to leave them in the "sort later" pile.

could also just be scummy.

town LC could just try to hyper town and risk being scumread as a vanilla town.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:54 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:51 am scirrus is maybe the top poster but i dont feel like he has given me the "key" to unlock the "door" to his "mind" and figure out how he works. i cant get a read on him

gun to my head i dont have a read on dizzy as well and i wished this wasnt so since he wasnt hard at all to townread last game. this could be on my part (paranoia that i might be wrong) (or paranoia that i might be overestimating myself and "spreading myself too thin" which might result in inaccurate reads if i try too hard). i dunno

my biggest focus this game will be trying to read alison. i really wish that if shes scum i can catch her. this is me reading all of alison's posts carefully and trying to catch her scumslip

Do you have any questions for me? I'm not sure really how to address this or if I even can, lol.

I feel like I'm more or less an open book when I play but apparently others don't see it. Maybe it's bc I'm new, dunno

What made DIzzy easy to read for you last game?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:30 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:44 am MP7 tr for her excitement to start the game and inquisitiveness (is that a word?) to get the ball rolling and stuff

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:49 am mm my eyes started glazing over towards the last part of day 1. i will need to eat breakfast first and focus.

i keep rolling around in my head the idea to townread urist but im not feeling it. or like i feel some paranoia about it. i wanna be correct i dont wanna make one single wrong read

i feel 0 paranoia about MP7 being town

This is also a selfish read, and those are... ughhh, but. I'm not sure how to feel about this read. I also haven't gotten any sense that tutuu has developed it since that initial read, which is a bit notable given I am the top poster, but I also realize my entrance and re-entrance were spaced out.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:07 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:02 pm

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:00 pm Yeah I have no idea how to read Alison lolololol

If she's scum it will be hard as fuck to bring her down though, I feel. Let's hope she's not

Hey Scirrus, what would your POE look like right now? Or maybe I should ask for non-POE / town reads list?

I'm still catching up but i tr

tutuu, urist, cobbler, and you?

i'm liking dizzy's thoughts so i think i'll put him in there too

i wanna hear proto's response to my questions but i'm like ehhhhhhh. i think the way he delivers his thoughts is a little odd for scum though. I have this feeling he may hold his thoughts closer to his chest as scum but it's just speculation really
Also in my experience town tends to gun for town me with more vigor than scum does. (Funnygirl last game lol)

I don't tr alison so far, michelle's entrance post was pretty meh, long con also meh, everyone else hasn't posted yet i think? from where i'm at in the thread

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:38 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:36 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:26 pmIn fact, you know what? Let's see what happens here.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I am confusion. Tutu is one of my strongest town reads tbh tbh

I'm pretty torn. I really like some of their stuff. I thought the treatment of Alison specifically was sketch though, especially since the approach clashes hard with other reads given... which may reek of TMI.

I'm not sure, but... I wanted to get some thoughts there. Maybe I'm crazy.

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:02 am tutuu's tone is just so towny lol

if she ever flips scum I will not trust her ever again, i'll say that much

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:26 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:25 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:22 pm im kinda vibing with alisons posts

i have no idea if i can read her of i will ever be able to read her but my heart is just telling me "alison town"

listen to your heart

I'm not sure why, but my gut mildly thinks this sounds w/w. Huh.

I think it's mostly due to the extreme hedging in tutuu's post when otherwise she's been less like that with other reads, perhaps indicating she has TMI about other players and is trying to have it both ways with a wolfmate here.

In fact, you know what? Let's see what happens here.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:28 pm

Scirrus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:24 pm M+ what are your reads looking like? I'll reverse your question to me back on to you

Things are still in flux... but right now I like you, Dizzy, and Urist as my top 3 town. I think cobbler also looks pretty good. I probably wouldn't want to yeet proto today either.

After that it gets tougher. I have mixed feelings on tutuu. I'll have to try to devote more headspace to the other players.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:48 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:30 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:44 am MP7 tr for her excitement to start the game and inquisitiveness (is that a word?) to get the ball rolling and stuff

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:49 am mm my eyes started glazing over towards the last part of day 1. i will need to eat breakfast first and focus.

i keep rolling around in my head the idea to townread urist but im not feeling it. or like i feel some paranoia about it. i wanna be correct i dont wanna make one single wrong read

i feel 0 paranoia about MP7 being town

This is also a selfish read, and those are... ughhh, but. I'm not sure how to feel about this read. I also haven't gotten any sense that tutuu has developed it since that initial read, which is a bit notable given I am the top poster, but I also realize my entrance and re-entrance were spaced out.

Those are ughhh what?

How could i have developed anything when we werent itt at the same time?

I feel like ur on way to start tunneling me lol

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:18 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:17 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:14 am ok so if dizzy doesnt have 300 posts and doesnt have 10 townreads by the end of day 0 he's scum with alison (who could be scum for similar reason)

i didn't read all the day for rl reasons but i wanted to see what is happening here.

Fos for tutuu because he expects performance like Dizzy is a robot working at a norm. I see it as a joke too but i dislike it.
Also associative reads so early? smh

yep, was a joke, just like the alison post

why would you dislike it even if u see it as a joke?

i have problems to understand jokes English is not my first language

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:36 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:26 pmIn fact, you know what? Let's see what happens here.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I am confusion. Tutu is one of my strongest town reads tbh tbh

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:01 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:48 am

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:30 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:44 am MP7 tr for her excitement to start the game and inquisitiveness (is that a word?) to get the ball rolling and stuff

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:49 am mm my eyes started glazing over towards the last part of day 1. i will need to eat breakfast first and focus.

i keep rolling around in my head the idea to townread urist but im not feeling it. or like i feel some paranoia about it. i wanna be correct i dont wanna make one single wrong read

i feel 0 paranoia about MP7 being town

This is also a selfish read, and those are... ughhh, but. I'm not sure how to feel about this read. I also haven't gotten any sense that tutuu has developed it since that initial read, which is a bit notable given I am the top poster, but I also realize my entrance and re-entrance were spaced out.

Those are ughhh what?

How could i have developed anything when we werent itt at the same time?

I feel like ur on way to start tunneling me lol

Why is the read selfish?

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:03 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:36 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:26 pmIn fact, you know what? Let's see what happens here.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I am confusion. Tutu is one of my strongest town reads tbh tbh

MOOD

1612 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:10 am Actually oh boy, I didn't realize we started at 7:00 PM. I do not have enough time for the day 1 because my work ends at 5PM tomorrow so I will have only two hours, should I DM and have someone replace me?

protocultures wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 pm @jeraldooo

You post smells like fear buddy. Fear of being sniffed out as mafia. Are you mafia? ARE YOU MAFIA?

Also any reads?

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:18 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:17 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:14 am ok so if dizzy doesnt have 300 posts and doesnt have 10 townreads by the end of day 0 he's scum with alison (who could be scum for similar reason)

i didn't read all the day for rl reasons but i wanted to see what is happening here.

Fos for tutuu because he expects performance like Dizzy is a robot working at a norm. I see it as a joke too but i dislike it.
Also associative reads so early? smh

yep, was a joke, just like the alison post

why would you dislike it even if u see it as a joke?

i have problems to understand jokes English is not my first language

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:20 am imagine sucking so bad the one person who has played a lot with you misreads you

To be fair i haven't had a good game in a long time so I shouldn't be too surprised

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:49 am [VOTE: Scirrus] aubergine

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:52 am Without reading much i want to consider M7 volume cleared for now, and my wagon suspect for voting me for few not AI posts.

Michelle

2

33% Voters: Scirrus, Alison

[VOTE: Scirrus] aubergine

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:03 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:10 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

This is a spicy vote. If Michelle flips red, I kind of want to consider Alison as maf.

This probably makes no sense to anyone else.

Alison voting Michelle here, I cant track the logic. We usually think similarly on things. Michelle hasnt given enough content to find them as the best vote D1 imo.

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:24 amToo late, prob gonna tunnel you another day at least now.

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:29 am@Dyslexicon More to respond to dizzys query here, its because I cant justify my GTH read. I could write something, but it would be insincere. I cant really mentally justify the townread if I had to pick an alignment, its just a feeling. I can explain why I flipped it (if I later scumread them), but I couldnt explain the original read, especially if asked later in the game as to my state of mind on day 0.

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 amIm starting to get a PR read from LC now. Intentionally coasting to be unlikely to be voted since we HAVE to leave them in the "sort later" pile.

could also just be scummy.

town LC could just try to hyper town and risk being scumread as a vanilla town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 amDon't go getting crazy now. I could go "hyper town" but that's not really my style. I'm in two other games right now, and I'm just giving the light touch in this one for now.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:00 am

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:02 am tutuu's tone is just so towny lol

if she ever flips scum I will not trust her ever again, i'll say that much

WOW

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:19 amthis guy is like lock town.

bit of background on 1612. Nicest guy ever. Also, fabulous hair. Just amazing. The best. We often have to wait for him to finish blowdrying it before we can start a voice mafia game with him. We wait for him because hes awesome.

So anyway, if he was mafia, he would just skip sleep and post so as to not let down his mafia team. He is only floating the idea of having someone else sub in because he is town and doesnt feel like he would be letting down a team.

my 2 cents, take it or leave it since its basically an entirely OGI read.

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:46 am I decided after isoing Urist.

A lot of posts. A lot of them unrelated to the game, not seeking to solve other player alignment, or allowing others to solve their alignment.

I will probably be wrong as usual on my scumread, and should have followed the wisdom of crowds to vote scirrus or michelle, but I dont scumread them the most, so I need to just go with my own read.

I assume I can still change my vote later if more posts are created which changes my mind.

jeraldooo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:27 am Mp and dizzy could be paired (seems like partner on partner interactions),
proto - light town due to the reads given that the evidence was good (can still change),
cobbler - light town for compiling a list of sr’s for everyone (could be NAI but for rn light town),
Lavender - seems like towny lav to me from previous games. Reaction testing and all. Seems very confident and makes me believe he’s town.

dexslexicon with their interaction with tutu saying that tutu is their biggest townread but i dont remember seeing anything good to tr tutu rn.

Townreads: Lav, proto, cobbler ||
Mafreads: Mp and dizzy, dexslexicon and tutu ||
Nullreads: everybody else ||
Paired: ||
Not Paired: Scirrus and proto, dislexycon ||

Sorry these notes were a lil rushed i almost fell asleep working with them.

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:38 am The votes are worrying me. I didnt think other people were scumreading Scirrus so much, and their later posts were more towny than the earlier ones.

in hindsight, I guess it looks like I was distancing from Scirrus by scumreading them and then relaxing that scumread on them.

Lavender probably gonna tunnel me for 2 days straight after this.

still undecided where to place my vote for now, so will hold it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:02 am What do you two see in Scirrus?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:02 am

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:03 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:10 pm [VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

This is a spicy vote. If Michelle flips red, I kind of want to consider Alison as maf.

This probably makes no sense to anyone else.

Alison voting Michelle here, I cant track the logic. We usually think similarly on things. Michelle hasnt given enough content to find them as the best vote D1 imo.

To be clear, is it the lack of content that makes Michelle an unattractive vote to you? Or do you think it's unlikely she will flip scum?
I don't see why this is a spicy vote at all. And yeah, the Michelle/Alison link does not make sense to me, and I also don't undestand why you think this after reading this post. So can you elaborate?

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:24 amToo late, prob gonna tunnel you another day at least now.

Why tho

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:29 am@Dyslexicon More to respond to dizzys query here, its because I cant justify my GTH read. I could write something, but it would be insincere. I cant really mentally justify the townread if I had to pick an alignment, its just a feeling. I can explain why I flipped it (if I later scumread them), but I couldnt explain the original read, especially if asked later in the game as to my state of mind on day 0.

Alright. I can see this as just play style difference I guess. For me, I don't worry too much about presentation as town, and maybe I worry about it too little. I kind of just write what I think, and a lot of the time I'm not even clear on what I think, and things get messy. But I actually prefer the "mess" and I'm pretty sure I usually find it easier to read when people have messier presentations. And I'm noticing this gets really technical and probably not that important. Truth is, I'm pretty suspicious of you, spoiler alert. And I'm trying to understand how you play even more to also be able to understand how you play as scum.

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:31 amIm starting to get a PR read from LC now. Intentionally coasting to be unlikely to be voted since we HAVE to leave them in the "sort later" pile.

could also just be scummy.

town LC could just try to hyper town and risk being scumread as a vanilla town.

And on the topic of "anti-town behavior". Pointing out that you read someone as PR is pretty much ALWAYS bad if you are town. Let mafia figure that shit out. You're basically just painting targets on people's backs. And if you really think LC is PR, then why would you do that? Not saying I agree with you and LC, I think he just hasn't gotten into the game and can be anything.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:44 amDon't go getting crazy now. I could go "hyper town" but that's not really my style. I'm in two other games right now, and I'm just giving the light touch in this one for now.

But I want you to get into this game. Why don't you think about ME? =(

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:00 am

Scirrus wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:02 am tutuu's tone is just so towny lol

if she ever flips scum I will not trust her ever again, i'll say that much

WOW

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:19 amthis guy is like lock town.

bit of background on 1612. Nicest guy ever. Also, fabulous hair. Just amazing. The best. We often have to wait for him to finish blowdrying it before we can start a voice mafia game with him. We wait for him because hes awesome.

So anyway, if he was mafia, he would just skip sleep and post so as to not let down his mafia team. He is only floating the idea of having someone else sub in because he is town and doesnt feel like he would be letting down a team.

my 2 cents, take it or leave it since its basically an entirely OGI read.

Fabulous hair you say? Pics or it didn't happen. =p
But also, I must rant because I must, because I don't understand the sentiment that it would be worse to leave your mafia team behind than your town team behind. Town is also a team. I just don't get why players in general would be more worried to let down their scum team than their town team. Town is not a second grade alignment dammit TEAM SPIRIT. I've just seen this sentiment a billion times and I'm so over it. I know it's a thing, I just don't like it. You may be correct that he's town and this may be a thing for him. I just can't seem to not pick a fight with you over theoretical stuff. =p

protocultures wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:46 am I decided after isoing Urist.

A lot of posts. A lot of them unrelated to the game, not seeking to solve other player alignment, or allowing others to solve their alignment.

I will probably be wrong as usual on my scumread, and should have followed the wisdom of crowds to vote scirrus or michelle, but I dont scumread them the most, so I need to just go with my own read.

I assume I can still change my vote later if more posts are created which changes my mind.

This is a scum post.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 am Actually, @Urist, where are you at with reads atm? Cause I can't really recall a picture of where you're at and I would like to know. Spill the juicy gossip plz