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Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Me and Epi came to the same conclusion earlier: the poisoner is likely Jack Napier, Nicholson's Joker. Wisp has claimed another Jack Nicholson Jack with a role that seems rather powerful and with no known downside, somewhat surprising for a character who goes crazy.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:50 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
So I've been assuming all along that the downside is that he gets fake roles, something that makes intuitive sense and still has application as a town power. But there is another explanation.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:51 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
wait. did he mention that he had only three shots before today?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:52 pm
by Epignosis
That's true. Jack Torrence is fucked up.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:52 pm
by Millium
where do I have room to be the poisoner?
tunneling what lol

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:52 pm
by Epignosis
But he got me right and LC right. And there's Hally and nutella backing him up.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:53 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:51 pm wait. did he mention that he had only three shots before today?
[mention]Wisp[/mention]

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:53 pm
by Millium
I did not, but since we were full claiming, I stated it

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 pm
by Millium
you can't believe wolves have fake claims, and think Jack Torrence is evil at the same time...
I guess the same goes for Jack the ripper though
/shrug

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:57 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Epignosis wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:52 pm But he got me right and LC right. And there's Hally and nutella backing him up.
His role card would be jack nicholson, probably. His role check would be designed to find the anti-poisoner. He conveniently ran out of checks as soon as he looked at yours. he hasn't checked someone who had already claimed, he wanted to be sure that other investigative roles and abilities were used on certain targets.

it's a conspiracy theory, yeah. put an appropriate amount of time into it, if it's found to be insubstantial, drop it.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:59 pm
by Spacedaisy
I’ve hit the point where I have some concerns about Jay. It’s not that he’s done something wrong, it’s that I don’t have anything solid to say he is definitely civ though.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:59 pm
by Millium
Hey I checked people that were all in the POE...
its not like this is hidden info

Who in the previously claimed was I suppose to check?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:00 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Spacedaisy wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:59 pm I’ve hit the point where I have some concerns about Jay. It’s not that he’s done something wrong, it’s that I don’t have anything solid to say he is definitely civ though.
I've seen jay do the super townie schtick as a wolf before, in GOC this year. My suspicions are as of yet not completely alleviated, but his effort in this game is outstanding and I think most of his D2/D3 progressions seem in earnest.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:01 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Wisp wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:59 pm Hey I checked people that were all in the POE...
its not like this is hidden info

Who in the previously claimed was I suppose to check?
I mean, ~mechanics~. I dunno.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am
by Spacedaisy
Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:03 am
by Spacedaisy
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:00 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:59 pm I’ve hit the point where I have some concerns about Jay. It’s not that he’s done something wrong, it’s that I don’t have anything solid to say he is definitely civ though.
I've seen jay do the super townie schtick as a wolf before, in GOC this year. My suspicions are as of yet not completely alleviated, but his effort in this game is outstanding and I think most of his D2/D3 progressions seem in earnest.
How do you feel his claim jives if he’s bad?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
by Epignosis
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
by Millium
his claim doesn't make sense if its real, but like the only way to prove is it, is to blow up
so like its probably best to just ignore it?
I think J has done a very large share of the scum hunting in this game

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:07 am
by TonyStarkPrime
if it's a fake claim I think it's partially true. I don't know how, I haven't come up with how.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:07 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Wisp wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am I think J has done a very large share of the scum hunting in this game
to be fair, no scum have yet been hunted.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:09 am
by Millium
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:07 am
Wisp wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am I think J has done a very large share of the scum hunting in this game
to be fair, no scum have yet been hunted.
scum hunting at heart, ok? lol

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:09 am
by Millium
this game is literally killing my wim and attention at this point
like I don't know what I am looking for at this point

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:10 am
by Epignosis
Wisp wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
I think J has done a very large share of the scum hunting in this game
To what end?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:10 am
by Epignosis
Wisp wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:09 am this game is literally killing my wim and attention at this point
like I don't know what I am looking for at this point
Killing your win?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:12 am
by Millium
To the end of the earth
and I said "wim", look at my post

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:13 am
by Epignosis
Wisp wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:12 am To the end of the earth
and I said "wim", look at my post
The fuck is a "wim?"

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:15 am
by Epignosis
Never mind. Looked it up.

WIM
Want It More. Refers to the attribute of extreme passion and desire to win that some players possess.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:16 am
by Millium
I have no idea what the acronym stands for
to me it means, killing my ability to figure this shit out

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:16 am
by Epignosis
Well my "WIM" has been "GTFO" for a while.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:17 am
by TonyStarkPrime
jack stop torturing us

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:17 am
by TonyStarkPrime
honestly if both fg and colin were wolves this could just be a fairly normal game

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:18 am
by TonyStarkPrime
or if there's some super wolf team that's tricked us with their tricks

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:21 am
by Millium
wait town has a tie breaker, and a triple voter?
no thanks

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:21 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Wisp wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:21 am wait town has a tie breaker, and a triple voter?
no thanks
oh yeah that too
i claimed first kill sabie

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:22 am
by Spacedaisy
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.
A townie whose vote could be controlled at any time by the wolves? Wouldn’t that make him someone we would need to eliminate?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:23 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.
A townie whose vote could be controlled at any time by the wolves? Wouldn’t that make him someone we would need to eliminate?
eh. he doesn't have to comply. and he could be lying about the whole thing .. for bizarre reasons

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:23 am
by Epignosis
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.
A townie whose vote could be controlled at any time by the wolves? Wouldn’t that make him someone we would need to eliminate?
My argument is that he's lying about that.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:24 am
by Spacedaisy
Putting a vote on Tony atm, but i am not sure I’m staying there.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:25 am
by Spacedaisy
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:23 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.
A townie whose vote could be controlled at any time by the wolves? Wouldn’t that make him someone we would need to eliminate?
My argument is that he's lying about that.
My point is not that it is or is not true, it’s why would a Wolf choose that lie? It wouldn’t keep him safe all game. However, he has adjusted by saying he can choose to not obey and die as a consequence.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:25 am
by Millium
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.
A townie whose vote could be controlled at any time by the wolves? Wouldn’t that make him someone we would need to eliminate?
we have 3 different people that claimed roles, around vote manipulation honestly

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:26 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Wisp wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:25 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.
A townie whose vote could be controlled at any time by the wolves? Wouldn’t that make him someone we would need to eliminate?
we have 3 different people that claimed roles, around vote manipulation honestly
and hally claimed a vote steal one shot

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:26 am
by Millium
what a game, what a game

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:27 am
by Spacedaisy
I’m not arguing his role makes sense or not.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:29 am
by Epignosis
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:25 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:23 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:22 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:06 am
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:02 am Ugh, but I’m back to feeling like the claim he made doesn’t make sense for a wolf.
It's a fine fake claim.
A townie whose vote could be controlled at any time by the wolves? Wouldn’t that make him someone we would need to eliminate?
My argument is that he's lying about that.
My point is not that it is or is not true, it’s why would a Wolf choose that lie? It wouldn’t keep him safe all game. However, he has adjusted by saying he can choose to not obey and die as a consequence.
If the Bioshock Jack Ryan was available to me as a fake claim, I'd gobble it up and go with it.

But that's just me.

Can't you just check him?

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:31 am
by TonyStarkPrime
people are voting for me for the very suspicious reason of "he was only copped as town once". C'mon, we have like three people who haven't been copped at all.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:31 am
by Spacedaisy
Yeah during the night. But with wisp claiming now to have no lore ability I’m probably about to die tonight.

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:32 am
by Epignosis
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:31 am people are voting for me for the very suspicious reason of "he was only copped as town once". C'mon, we have like three people who haven't been copped at all.
Tony voters should respond to this.

Puts on JJJ voice

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:32 am
by TonyStarkPrime
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:31 am Yeah during the night. But with wisp claiming now to have no lore ability I’m probably about to die tonight.
there exist no night kills outside of kitsu thus far

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:32 am
by Spacedaisy
Alright, I’m moving to Jay.

[VOTE: Jay] aubergine

Re: Jack Attack Mafia (Day 4)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:33 am
by TonyStarkPrime
jay is probably worse than sabie, no?
this is not what I said earlier today