The Syndicate

this is nai for me anyways

on a scale from 1-10 my defensiveness tends to score around a 9

i used to be more defensive as a villager, to the point where it eclipsed the amount i did as a wolf, but being defensive is generally nai for me

I think TR's post about wolves not caring about the wagons is interesting

I just find it weird in retrospect that they've spent all game pushing me after voting me EoD1 (yeah I'm aware) and once that's not a viable push anymore they have this like, vaguely possible but not really likely excuse as to why their positioning on the wagon isn't actually wolf indicative even though it's >>>rand wolf by saying scum didn't care about the wagons

like, I feel as if that wall posts exists to fill the hole caused by them needing to town read me. It seems timing wise to just go together in a way the existence of the push /> swap to wolves don't care about the wagon always is there to justify why their vote isn't scummy

Beginning with "BT is a wolf" moving to "wolves don't care about the votes"

Etc

Don't know if I'm explaining this well

I'm technically kind of here, video mafia is starting so kinda just lurking waiting to hammer sleep

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:59 pm like, I feel as if that wall posts exists to fill the hole caused by them needing to town read me. It seems timing wise to just go together in a way the existence of the push /> swap to wolves don't care about the wagon always is there to justify why their vote isn't scummy

Beginning with "BT is a wolf" moving to "wolves don't care about the votes"

Etc

Don't know if I'm explaining this well

@Poop Explosions does this make sense at all

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:58 pm I think TR's post about wolves not caring about the wagons is interesting

I just find it weird in retrospect that they've spent all game pushing me after voting me EoD1 (yeah I'm aware) and once that's not a viable push anymore they have this like, vaguely possible but not really likely excuse as to why their positioning on the wagon isn't actually wolf indicative even though it's >>>rand wolf by saying scum didn't care about the wagons

wut.

i'm confused. you're talking about my positioning on the d1 wagon? mist voted you during eod1 and i tried voting on two and through dilatorily. the fact that my slot voted you had nothing to do with me specifically. if i'm understanding you correctly i was more so talking about how akemi being on your wagon felt villagery, not myself because if i am a wolf, i did try pushing my partner over.

i don't really see why it's not a likely excuse either. like if you're going to actually bus a wolf, you want to look good doing so; it did rand onto two and through but in my mind if myself/akemi were wolves we could've just hard bussed two and through and coast to late game easily

and uh. "rand wolf by saying scum didn't care about the wagons"? what about my or akemi's positioning on the wagon would be indicative that we didn't care who went over? it should be the opposite from your perspective if one of us is a wolf. i'm saying that wolves probably didn't care about the result d1 FROM MY PERSPECTIVE since i know i'm not wolves with akemi, and it seemed like they easily could've had numbers to push you or mana over instead of two and through.

Vote sleep ok

oops

it can be nutella ig

and i don't "need" to townread you. let's get that out of the way. i townread you because the wagon and how eod1 went down makes it more likely that you're a villager. otherwise wolves would've cared to push the vote over to mana or something. you really think if i continued pushing you in this dayphase that it would be outing? if so, how? like wolf!me doesn't need to townread you.

well tsp always thought that jpic's the holdout

this recent push onto me seems incredibly silly bottom text ngl. i almost feel like you're forcing yourself to make this conclusion rather than coming to it cogently and naturally.

afaik it's not wolfy in any way for me to switch my read on you. if you think it is wolfy, you're wrong.

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:07 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:59 pm like, I feel as if that wall posts exists to fill the hole caused by them needing to town read me. It seems timing wise to just go together in a way the existence of the push /> swap to wolves don't care about the wagon always is there to justify why their vote isn't scummy

Beginning with "BT is a wolf" moving to "wolves don't care about the votes"

Etc

Don't know if I'm explaining this well

@Poop Explosions does this make sense at all

Uh, if I stare at it long enough maybe

But also, you know
My whole thing with progression cases

One part of this that might be an issue is that obviously it's not farfetched to say you're spewed by TAT
But van's been trying to spew herself town from TAT and saying TAT was probably a hit
All while pushing your slot

The question then becomes whether my memory is correct and any of this actually happened

like how would my wallpost where i switched my read on you help me as a wolf. why would it be necessary for me to do that if i was a wolf?

answer: it doesn't, and it's not.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 9:31 pm TSPIC has had a good SOD today, and I especially thought that them clearing Toopy (who they've been pretty negative on) for being unable to fake Tim's tone was a townie move by them. They also don't seem W/W with TAT, so if TAT is wolf (which is what I am leaning towards right now) then TSPIC looks even better. I am willing to give TSPIC a day pass for today.

Has akemi done anything with this?

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:15 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:07 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:59 pm like, I feel as if that wall posts exists to fill the hole caused by them needing to town read me. It seems timing wise to just go together in a way the existence of the push /> swap to wolves don't care about the wagon always is there to justify why their vote isn't scummy

Beginning with "BT is a wolf" moving to "wolves don't care about the votes"

Etc

Don't know if I'm explaining this well

@Poop Explosions does this make sense at all

Uh, if I stare at it long enough maybe

But also, you know
My whole thing with progression cases

One part of this that might be an issue is that obviously it's not farfetched to say you're spewed by TAT
But van's been trying to spew herself town from TAT and saying TAT was probably a hit
All while pushing your slot

The question then becomes whether my memory is correct and any of this actually happened

i don't understand how two and through wolf spews bottom text though. i only came to that conclusion based on the information that's out on the table now.

and yeah i did argue that two and through seemed like a wolf and that that should clear me. i also had no reason at the time to think anything about two and through's flip would spew bottom text, so that's why we started deathtunneling them.

@TonyStarkPlaysItCool why do you think TR is town

Or am I misremembering

anyways I'm playing temtem

playing mario galaxy

ama

~togekiss

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:54 pm playing mario galaxy

ama

~togekiss

splits?

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:55 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:54 pm playing mario galaxy

ama

~togekiss

splits?

i'm not speedrunning it b/c i've never beaten it before

~togekiss

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:56 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:55 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:54 pm playing mario galaxy

ama

~togekiss

splits?

i'm not speedrunning it b/c i've never beaten it before

~togekiss

wait i thought that said odyssey

why havent you beaten the WR yet

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:57 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:56 pm

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:55 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 5:54 pm playing mario galaxy

ama

~togekiss

splits?

i'm not speedrunning it b/c i've never beaten it before

~togekiss

wait i thought that said odyssey

why havent you beaten the WR yet

i plead the fifth

~togekiss

i'm going to be eating in a moment. we need to make a decision if we are absolutely sleeping or defenestrating. i still think i'd rather sleep.

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:13 pm i'm going to be eating in a moment. we need to make a decision if we are absolutely sleeping or defenestrating. i still think i'd rather sleep.

our votes been on sleep all day

we dont have enough info

been busy for the last few hours but yeah [VOTE: sleep] aubergine

I said I was gonna hammer it and I'm a man of my word

whoever hammers sleep is a wolf

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:42 pm whoever hammers sleep is a wolf

I did it before you said it so it doesn't count

i saw 3 votes when i said it

wolfclaiming tbh

Hammers are townie

oh its hammered

ok see yall tomorrow

im gay

day 4 final vote count

haha gg frens

(we backed up the vig)

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 7:04 pm (we backed up the vig)

oh my god

did we not learn our lesson after bm4

~mawile

TOWN ROLES

1. You are 1x Watcher. You may target another player and will learn which other players visited your target that night. – made&dana
2. You are a 1x Vig. You may target another player to attempt to kill them. – finger&Roxy
3. You are a 2x Bodyguard. You may target another player on 2 separate nights and protect your target from death by dying in their stead if they're targeted for death. -- Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
4. You are a 1x Deflector. Once in this game, you may target a player and cause all night actions directed at that player to be redirected to a second player. -- Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)
5. You are a 2x Roleblocker. Twice in this game, you may target another player and block them from successfully performing their night action. - TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool
6. You are 1x Medium. You may send one message to a dead player and receive one reply from the player. Toopy and Binoo (gavial & spak)
7. You are a 1x Vote Thief. You may at any time before EoD PM the host and announce whose vote you are stealing. Your target’s vote will account to 0, and yours will be 2. This power does not work in MyLo and LyLo. - falcon45ca & BoKnows
8. You are a 2x Reloader. You may target another player and reload their action, available for them to use the following night. - Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)
9. You are a Lover. On Night 1, you may choose another player to become lovers with and have BTSC with starting from Day 2. If at any point in the game you die, your lover will die with you. – urist
10. You are 1x Commuter. You may once in the game commute and make yourself immune to any night actions against you. - vanity & Mistyx

MAFIA ROLES

1. You are a 3x Jailkeeper. You may target another player and stop any actions they may take as well as prevent any night actions from targeting them. – jules&nook
2. You are 2x Janitor. You may choose to Janitor 2 deaths (either yeet or NK), so only you will receive the role reveal. – tim&hk
3. You are 1x Backup. You may target a dead player on any night and inherit their role. – alison+Nutella

wut.

i guess i dont have anyone to blame but myself

i had good reads and then put 0 effort into pushing them so

thats on me sorry

~mawile

other funny thing

the janitor was not passive, we just lined it up to janitor the d1 yeet no matter what

if bt had gone over theyd have been janitored too

spec chat: https://discord.gg/Esj8zzQ2

mafia chat: https://discord.gg/rszDwZMT

we were afraid tsp would block one of the kills and we'd still have to play f5, we had made the plan to sleep at f6 and use the vig and weren't expecting them to claim another shot at that point so it feels good it worked lol

TSP / JPIC did have another shot (they used it on trans rights though)

Smh

great game, much fun, love to play!!!!

Thanks Dunya!!!!

Wolf pack, chef's kiss!!!

10/10, would wolf with again!!!