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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
by nutella
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:52 am
Nanook has posted of 200 times, he has less than 15 posts over 25 words.
There is a majority of commentary, with no real value even during day 2 of this game.
The "solving" he does is mainly just saying reads, and not interacting/questioning people who he gives reads about.
When Nanook talks about me a couple times, it's more of a TMI thing because I know he is right, but the evidence he has to call me town at times aren't good.
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:55 am
I recommend reading the ISO of Nanook and asking yourself three questions.
1. Is Nanook actively solving the game, and inspecting the people he is interacting with.
2. Is Nanook posting too much fluff for you?
3. When Nanook finally gives any reads, are they given with some kind of evidence that would convince you? Or all of his reads just commentary without some details backing it up.
just ftr, if nanook is scum, nothing you mention here is why
you're just describing his usual style, that's how he always plays
but i think he can be scum and i agree with you regarding his compatibility with ellie and/or michelle
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
by Esooa
there is nothing to explain, the words explain themselves
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
by Michelle
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:25 pm
is this why theres 12 town in this setup cuz this is the shit that gives 0 info for the next day.
only 2 competing wagons is frustrating and thats why ive been trying to start up other ones on ppl i suspect cuz this kinda circular action gets us nowhere.
ellie can u at least try and give ur reads
also theres always the chance we flash wagon someone else
MADE is hard scum. he's your 1 from me/mich/made . i dont know why you guys let yourselves get manipulated by the high posters into thinking any different. MICHELLE is probably also scum, i think she's playing really hard but that doesnt change anything.
I read DOOM and ESOOA as scum too. Doom literally wont get off my ass and even consider im town, and i think thats wolf tmi. Esooa had a gradual flip away from me yesterday then suddenly shot back to me being "100% scum, you must die now". It honestly doesnt make sense beyond being able to deny my death later.
ALISON, NUT, and NOOK I think all lean town. I can't thing of anything egregious theyve done.
I can see a world where SPF is scum but i wouldnt bet on it. She's apparently really good but her vibe is insincere. Wish i had more.
DkKOBA? Bruh i dont even know, im glad youre trying to solve when you got handed my hammer just now but I didnt like your initiative assessment of D2.
GROGU i dont care about beyond really, REALLY bad vibes. I cam see a GROGU/MADE/SPF world. I think if that were true though a town win is super unlikely because of all the digging ro be done.
I think that's everyone, list isnt tiered or ordered. Just wrote as i remembered the players
I find very interesting your suspicion on Esooa and Spf in the same time you consider me scum.
I don't get it, can you explain me why?
Please unvote yourself and vote your scum reads
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
When I reviewed interactions, I figured the only likely fits for an Esooa team were Alison, Grogu, and SPF.
I’m allowing myself to think about it. Esooa has cruised today on nutella-like credit, but I don’t know Esooa nearly like I know nutella.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:56 pm
by nutella
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:46 am
Nutella I would encourage you to every time you have a thought that involves the premise of “I can read nanook,” discard it immediately and sheep mac’s townread instead.
i never said i can read you i said i think you could be mafia

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:57 pm
by Esooa
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
When I reviewed interactions, I figured the only likely fits for an Esooa team were Alison, Grogu, and SPF.
I’m allowing myself to think about it. Esooa has cruised today on nutella-like credit, but I don’t know Esooa nearly like I know nutella.
what
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:58 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
When I reviewed interactions, I figured the only likely fits for an Esooa team were Alison, Grogu, and SPF.
I’m allowing myself to think about it. Esooa has cruised today on nutella-like credit, but I don’t know Esooa nearly like I know nutella.
what
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
When I reviewed interactions, I figured the only likely fits for an Esooa team were Alison, Grogu, and SPF.
I’m allowing myself to think about it. Esooa has cruised today on nutella-like credit, but I don’t know Esooa nearly like I know nutella.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
by Michelle
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:32 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:39 pm
@MacDougall can you explain what you think I would be doing differently here if I were town
i wish an explanation for this post
@Esooa answer me please
nah
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
there is nothing to explain, the words explain themselves
The words are saying 'if i were town' implying you are not.
I am Esl, i want to know if i understood it correct, and if i did why you said that.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
by Esooa
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:32 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:39 pm
@MacDougall can you explain what you think I would be doing differently here if I were town
i wish an explanation for this post
@Esooa answer me please
nah
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
there is nothing to explain, the words explain themselves
The words are saying 'if i were town' implying you are not.
I am Esl, i want to know if i understood it correct, and if i did why you said that.
your interpretation is correct
deduce the implications at you wish

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
by EllieDelight
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
EllieDelight wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:34 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:25 pm
is this why theres 12 town in this setup cuz this is the shit that gives 0 info for the next day.
only 2 competing wagons is frustrating and thats why ive been trying to start up other ones on ppl i suspect cuz this kinda circular action gets us nowhere.
ellie can u at least try and give ur reads
also theres always the chance we flash wagon someone else
MADE is hard scum. he's your 1 from me/mich/made . i dont know why you guys let yourselves get manipulated by the high posters into thinking any different. MICHELLE is probably also scum, i think she's playing really hard but that doesnt change anything.
I read DOOM and ESOOA as scum too. Doom literally wont get off my ass and even consider im town, and i think thats wolf tmi. Esooa had a gradual flip away from me yesterday then suddenly shot back to me being "100% scum, you must die now". It honestly doesnt make sense beyond being able to deny my death later.
ALISON, NUT, and NOOK I think all lean town. I can't thing of anything egregious theyve done.
I can see a world where SPF is scum but i wouldnt bet on it. She's apparently really good but her vibe is insincere. Wish i had more.
DkKOBA? Bruh i dont even know, im glad youre trying to solve when you got handed my hammer just now but I didnt like your initiative assessment of D2.
GROGU i dont care about beyond really, REALLY bad vibes. I cam see a GROGU/MADE/SPF world. I think if that were true though a town win is super unlikely because of all the digging ro be done.
I think that's everyone, list isnt tiered or ordered. Just wrote as i remembered the players
I find very interesting your suspicion on Esooa and Spf in the same time you consider me scum.
I don't get it, can you explain me why?
Please unvote yourself and vote your scum reads
Idk about you anymore Mich, im on the fence if you're scum, you've done some real polarizing shit both ways. Esooa is more like, i could see her as scum and i don't think i have a mental counter argument against it. SPF just doesn't have good vibes
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
by Esooa
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:58 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:57 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
When I reviewed interactions, I figured the only likely fits for an Esooa team were Alison, Grogu, and SPF.
I’m allowing myself to think about it. Esooa has cruised today on nutella-like credit, but I don’t know Esooa nearly like I know nutella.
what
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
When I reviewed interactions, I figured the only likely fits for an Esooa team were Alison, Grogu, and SPF.
I’m allowing myself to think about it. Esooa has cruised today on nutella-like credit, but I don’t know Esooa nearly like I know nutella.
but I haven't been cruising by today
and I don't have nutella like credit
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
by DkKoba
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:01 pm
by Esooa
honestly the most scummy thing about me is koba reading me town
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:02 pm
by Michelle
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:32 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:39 pm
@MacDougall can you explain what you think I would be doing differently here if I were town
i wish an explanation for this post
@Esooa answer me please
nah
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
there is nothing to explain, the words explain themselves
The words are saying 'if i were town' implying you are not.
I am Esl, i want to know if i understood it correct, and if i did why you said that.
your interpretation is correct
deduce the implications at you wish
You didn't explain me why you wanted to be universally TR at Sod
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:03 pm
by Esooa
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:02 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:54 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:50 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:32 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:39 pm
@MacDougall can you explain what you think I would be doing differently here if I were town
i wish an explanation for this post
@Esooa answer me please
nah
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:55 pm
there is nothing to explain, the words explain themselves
The words are saying 'if i were town' implying you are not.
I am Esl, i want to know if i understood it correct, and if i did why you said that.
your interpretation is correct
deduce the implications at you wish
You didn't explain me why you wanted to be universally TR at Sod
because I obviously was and didn't want to deal with obnoxious tin foil
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:03 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
but I haven't been cruising by today
and I don't have nutella like credit
You certainly have been cruising in JaggedJimmyJay’s brain. This is the first time on Day 2 I’ve asked any questions about you.
I draw the nutella comparison because you both “look like town” at face value. I just have much more history to draw from with nutella when I make such a judgment.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:03 pm
by nutella
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:17 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:06 am
hot take: alison can still be mafia, especially if we live in some kind messed up world where michelle is town
What is SPF preparing here?
yes
michelle let us move on from the past and team up against spf
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Is meta trash?
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
by nutella
(realistically i'm probably not ready for that, i need to resolve michelle/the poe before really digging into spf)
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:46 am
Nutella I would encourage you to every time you have a thought that involves the premise of “I can read nanook,” discard it immediately and sheep mac’s townread instead.
i never said i can read you i said i think you could be mafia
Look grandpa, it’s a distinction without a difference in its natural habitat, what a rare and wondrous sight!
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
by Esooa
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
(realistically i'm probably not ready for that, i need to resolve michelle/the poe before really digging into spf)
spf is the poe
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
by DkKoba
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Is meta trash?
yes and no.
the way most ppl apply it - yes
using it to poe out scumrange/townrange - no
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
by Esooa
if spf wasn't so cute I'd consider her a viable alternative to being the bake today
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
by DkKoba
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:01 pm
honestly the most scummy thing about me is koba reading me town
can u stop discrediting me with "hur koba cant read me haha"
like i can ur just mad i dont do it right away
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Is meta trash?
yes and no.
the way most ppl apply it - yes
using it to poe out scumrange/townrange - no
How confident are you that Esooa is out of her scum range?
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:07 pm
by DkKoba
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Is meta trash?
yes and no.
the way most ppl apply it - yes
using it to poe out scumrange/townrange - no
How confident are you that Esooa is out of her scum range?
very. especially considering she doesn't know the tell i have on her yet and thus can't manipulate it against me.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:08 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:21 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:20 pm
and I have every single player on made as possibly scum
ok cool we get it my scumrange is huge so im technically still possible scum - but y spf?
*bernie meme* I am once again telling you to read the posts you missed
Please check out my spf paranoia last night and realize I am the town and spf is the deepwolf
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:08 pm
by Esooa
koba hasn't played against me as scum BTW
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:08 pm
by DkKoba
doesn't mean i havent read any scum games at some point.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:09 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Is meta trash?
yes and no.
the way most ppl apply it - yes
using it to poe out scumrange/townrange - no
How confident are you that Esooa is out of her scum range?
very. especially considering she doesn't know the tell i have on her yet and thus can't manipulate it against me.
Cool. How would you describe scum Esooa? You don’t have to reveal your specific tell if you don’t want to.
Sorry for quote pyramid, but mobile
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:09 pm
by Michelle
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:03 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:17 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:06 am
hot take: alison can still be mafia, especially if we live in some kind messed up world where michelle is town
What is SPF preparing here?
yes
michelle let us move on from the past and team up against spf
I think you don't need my approval to follow your reads
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm
by DkKoba
fully explaining my perception of her scum game would possibly reveal the tell so im not interested in going into detail
but i will say that esooa scum has recently succeeded due to naivety of town not having played with scum esooa before - it wasnt necessarily due to her blending into her townplay so much as ppl underestimating her.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
I don't think I've ever played with her other than the hydra mash
So no
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:13 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
I don't think I've ever played with her other than the hydra mash
So no
Cool beans. Does your view of Esooa go deeper than what she looks like to you at face value?
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
btw
if one more person says to me "bruh that's just my town meta" as a response to non towny playstyle
Have you ever thought about maybe trying to play towny? Just wondering, because I won't change my reads based on meta ever, just saying.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm
fully explaining my perception of her scum game would possibly reveal the tell so im not interested in going into detail
but i will say that esooa scum has recently succeeded due to naivety of town not having played with scum esooa before - it wasnt necessarily due to her blending into her townplay so much as ppl underestimating her.
Very well, thanks. Do you recall one of her scum games that you watched and where I can find it?
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Is meta trash?
yes and no.
the way most ppl apply it - yes
using it to poe out scumrange/townrange - no
How confident are you that Esooa is out of her scum range?
very. especially considering she doesn't know the tell i have on her yet and thus can't manipulate it against me.
if you trust esooa you should definitely trust me lol
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
by nutella
anyway read the stuff from last night about spf it's super interesting i promise
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:16 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm
fully explaining my perception of her scum game would possibly reveal the tell so im not interested in going into detail
but i will say that esooa scum has recently succeeded due to naivety of town not having played with scum esooa before - it wasnt necessarily due to her blending into her townplay so much as ppl underestimating her.
i guess this matches up to my idea of her having a similarly impressive scumrange as alison
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:17 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:13 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
I don't think I've ever played with her other than the hydra mash
So no
Cool beans. Does your view of Esooa go deeper than what she looks like to you at face value?
a lot of it is how much we've been in lockstep
I realize that applies to spf as well and I expressed paranoia about that but they feel different. I've entertained some degree of paranoia about Esooa as well but my gut differentiates between the two
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:17 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I suggested earlier that my view of SPF is like a "diet" version of my view of Alison -- I am in total lockstep with Alison all game, and mostly agree with SPF most of the game. I find myself wondering if this reflects genuine melding of the minds with Alison, and SPF absorbing herself into the general consensus deliberately.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:18 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:17 pm
a lot of it is how much we've been in lockstep
I realize that applies to spf as well and I expressed paranoia about that but they feel different. I've entertained some degree of paranoia about Esooa as well but my gut differentiates between the two
That makes sense. nutella/Esooa is a similar dynamic to Jay/Alison in this game. Thanks I'll think about it.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:18 pm
by DkKoba
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:04 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 2:59 pm
@DkKoba @nutella as I understand it y’all know Esooa at least somewhat. Does meta play a strong role in your reads of her?
yes
Is meta trash?
yes and no.
the way most ppl apply it - yes
using it to poe out scumrange/townrange - no
How confident are you that Esooa is out of her scum range?
very. especially considering she doesn't know the tell i have on her yet and thus can't manipulate it against me.
if you trust esooa you should definitely trust me lol
i trust her being town - that doesnt mean i trust her accuracy
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:18 pm
by nutella
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
btw
if one more person says to me "bruh that's just my town meta" as a response to non towny playstyle
Have you ever thought about maybe trying to play towny? Just wondering, because I won't change my reads based on meta ever, just saying.
assuming this is about nanook -- it's not even really his town meta so much as his style always. it's just how he plays the game and you shouldn't read him off of it. he has a unique way of going about the game and it takes some getting used to so i don't blame you for having a hard time "getting" him the first time you're playing with him -- you're just making ill-conceived assumptions about it
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:18 pm
by DkKoba
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:12 pm
fully explaining my perception of her scum game would possibly reveal the tell so im not interested in going into detail
but i will say that esooa scum has recently succeeded due to naivety of town not having played with scum esooa before - it wasnt necessarily due to her blending into her townplay so much as ppl underestimating her.
Very well, thanks. Do you recall one of her scum games that you watched and where I can find it?
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/29301
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:19 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
At the very least I think we owe it to Mac to consider Esooa under a more critical lens. Unless he spoiled himself with a different answer, I suspect he's been screaming in his coffin all day.
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:20 pm
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:17 pm
I suggested earlier that my view of SPF is like a "diet" version of my view of Alison -- I am in total lockstep with Alison all game, and mostly agree with SPF most of the game. I find myself wondering if this reflects genuine melding of the minds with Alison, and SPF absorbing herself into the general consensus deliberately.
yeah
that's how I feel with Esooa in the same position as Alison/even more so
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:20 pm
by DkKoba
Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]
Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:20 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:18 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:14 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:06 pm
DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:05 pm
yes and no.
the way most ppl apply it - yes
using it to poe out scumrange/townrange - no
How confident are you that Esooa is out of her scum range?
very. especially considering she doesn't know the tell i have on her yet and thus can't manipulate it against me.
if you trust esooa you should definitely trust me lol
i trust her being town - that doesnt mean i trust her accuracy
but like. we been doing the same shit