The Syndicate

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:55 pm What more can I do to look town?

c'mon now. lol

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:00 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:59 pm oh and lily, who do u think the other mafia is? who's partnered with me? is it me and aro? me and seanzie? i'm blatantly unpaired with everyone in this game and i think the reason u arent even trying to solve outside of me today is because u know that you cant realistically pair with me with anyone

i have an idea but i rather wait till tomorrow to give my theory tbh

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:03 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:01 pm "i'd rather wait until tomorrow to give my theory' is code for: "there are no realistic partners for SPF but i dont want to say this out loud and give it away because i need her to get miseliminated today"

you have two realistic partners..

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:09 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:57 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:45 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:31 pm Also, I would like to say before anything else.

Usually when someone self-votes there as town and dies, I usually consider it bad play and blame that person, but when I was reflecting when I saw his flip upon death, I felt very guilty and terrible. That is on me and I should have been able to realize/empathize with the situation there. I will take all the criticism post-game and attempt to learn from those mistakes.

Best thing I can do now is to carry on and inherit his legacy and will. [VOTE: SPF] aubergine

lmfao i was expecting ppl to unthinkingly and lazily vote me today but i was at least expecting better from u. ur voting me because boq thought i was mafia? really? you're willing to vote one of ur strongest townreads because boq included me in his legacy?

Fuck man, idk SPF, tbh, I felt really good after the Alison kill and then established the POE I had and had reasons for town reading others, and seeing as how it went down yesterday, I did have you as slightly townier than Boq from our interactions which is why I went to Boq.

But the thing is, if you do flip town, Lily is very likely just mafia there and I will make sure she votes first and it seems as you have proposed that in your vote order.

Ngl, you proposing the LyLo voting order already knowing you are likely to die is townie too but fuck man.

Here is the issue SPF and this is where the "Alison" in me comes out, let's say we kill who you want to today and we miss, do you think you'd be able to survive in LyLo as well based on how everyone has been treating/reading you today?

And I do believe u might be town, but also, I promised Boq I'd go with his legacy. Even if I did try to defend you today, it's very unlikely people would not want to vote you, but that is why if you are town, I want to hear you out and work with you till the end of the day and make sure that if I am alive in LyLo that I will fulfill your legacy and wishes.

if we kill lily today and she flips wolf then i am definitively cleared, so yes, that is the exact avenue that this game would need to take for me to survive and win withotu dying

if we hit outside of me today and we miss, then i die tomorrow 100% of the time, but lily is nearly mod confirmed mafia FMPOV so i dont really care about this as a possibility

that's fair I guess from ur pov.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:37 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:33 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:31 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:28 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:27 pm

You are fighting for your life, very clearly here. You didn't counter anything, you are throwing a hailmary.

Seanzie how are you not partnered with SPF?

*brushes Rondo aside*

dont be lewd, its against the community standards

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

since you wont answer me [VOTE: SPF ] aubergine

I didn't answer what?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:43 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:00 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:59 pm oh and lily, who do u think the other mafia is? who's partnered with me? is it me and aro? me and seanzie? i'm blatantly unpaired with everyone in this game and i think the reason u arent even trying to solve outside of me today is because u know that you cant realistically pair with me with anyone

i have an idea but i rather wait till tomorrow to give my theory tbh

Isn't this a scum slip? Her perspective is that she will remain alive for tomorrow. Not maybe but definitely. Maybe I am reading too much into the phrasing.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:18 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:16 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:13 pm no im saying that lily needs ur vote today to get me miseliminated, so she's refusing to say who she thinks who my partner is because she's scared that you'll turn on her. it seems pretty obvious to me

I don't think my vote matters much tbh lol. I could self-vote and you'd prolly die tbh. No offence SPF, but even if you convince me today, I am not sure if others will vote with u.

So let's talk then since you seem very dead set on Lily, who do you believe is her likeliest partner?

nah i can easily see lily being scared of me as a wolf and wanting to guarantee that i get miseliminated even though it is still the likeliest possibility. playing it safe and refusing to out a single read outside of me is the smartest way for her to make that happen

i think that lily's partner is exactly either seanzie or rondo. nanook is probably town even though he's going out of his way to wolfside as hard as possible. porscha has been doubtful/constantly re-assessing her worldview in a way that would be unnecessary for her to do as maf in this position. rondo and seanzie have both been pushing the consensus withotu contribting much and lily hasnt pushed on either of them, so either of them fit the archetype of lily's partner. im leaning on it being seanzie

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:46 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:09 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:57 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:45 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 8:31 pm Also, I would like to say before anything else.

Usually when someone self-votes there as town and dies, I usually consider it bad play and blame that person, but when I was reflecting when I saw his flip upon death, I felt very guilty and terrible. That is on me and I should have been able to realize/empathize with the situation there. I will take all the criticism post-game and attempt to learn from those mistakes.

Best thing I can do now is to carry on and inherit his legacy and will. [VOTE: SPF] aubergine

lmfao i was expecting ppl to unthinkingly and lazily vote me today but i was at least expecting better from u. ur voting me because boq thought i was mafia? really? you're willing to vote one of ur strongest townreads because boq included me in his legacy?

Fuck man, idk SPF, tbh, I felt really good after the Alison kill and then established the POE I had and had reasons for town reading others, and seeing as how it went down yesterday, I did have you as slightly townier than Boq from our interactions which is why I went to Boq.

But the thing is, if you do flip town, Lily is very likely just mafia there and I will make sure she votes first and it seems as you have proposed that in your vote order.

Ngl, you proposing the LyLo voting order already knowing you are likely to die is townie too but fuck man.

Here is the issue SPF and this is where the "Alison" in me comes out, let's say we kill who you want to today and we miss, do you think you'd be able to survive in LyLo as well based on how everyone has been treating/reading you today?

And I do believe u might be town, but also, I promised Boq I'd go with his legacy. Even if I did try to defend you today, it's very unlikely people would not want to vote you, but that is why if you are town, I want to hear you out and work with you till the end of the day and make sure that if I am alive in LyLo that I will fulfill your legacy and wishes.

if we kill lily today and she flips wolf then i am definitively cleared, so yes, that is the exact avenue that this game would need to take for me to survive and win withotu dying

if we hit outside of me today and we miss, then i die tomorrow 100% of the time, but lily is nearly mod confirmed mafia FMPOV so i dont really care about this as a possibility

that's fair I guess from ur pov.

Pls explain mod confirm I don't see it

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:20 pm like lily, i think ur mafia and i think ur partner is either seanzie or rondo. i'm not afraid to say that. why are u scared to say who my partner is? what are u afraid of?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:25 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:22 pm I will say tho, SPF has come out and done the exact opposite of anti-spew today lmfao. If they are mafia, their last partner exists in a very narrow POE.

would be funny if shes town tbh and the wolves are just cackling in wolf chat

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:25 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:16 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:09 pm i think lily is trying to set herself up to pretend that she thinks me/aro are maf (since she quoted the legacy post where wilgy said to turbo me/aro and then didn't leave any further comment) but isn't directly pushing for it because she's scared to get aro on her bad side and needs him to vote with her today to win lol

wouldn't i be outed in your world so it wouldn't matter if you die? nothing ur saying makes sense to me tbh it just seems like a flailing wolf

to u ur town and im a wolf so you die and then we go to lylo and i get snap voted

how about u find my teammate lmao

have you cleared yourself from any potential partners? /shrug could literally be rondo or sean or aro since you've shaded aro all game (ie. pitting wolf between spf/aro on multiple occasions) but done nothing to push aro

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:27 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:18 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:16 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:13 pm no im saying that lily needs ur vote today to get me miseliminated, so she's refusing to say who she thinks who my partner is because she's scared that you'll turn on her. it seems pretty obvious to me

I don't think my vote matters much tbh lol. I could self-vote and you'd prolly die tbh. No offence SPF, but even if you convince me today, I am not sure if others will vote with u.

So let's talk then since you seem very dead set on Lily, who do you believe is her likeliest partner?

nah i can easily see lily being scared of me as a wolf and wanting to guarantee that i get miseliminated even though it is still the likeliest possibility. playing it safe and refusing to out a single read outside of me is the smartest way for her to make that happen

i think that lily's partner is exactly either seanzie or rondo. nanook is probably town even though he's going out of his way to wolfside as hard as possible. porscha has been doubtful/constantly re-assessing her worldview in a way that would be unnecessary for her to do as maf in this position. rondo and seanzie have both been pushing the consensus withotu contribting much and lily hasnt pushed on either of them, so either of them fit the archetype of lily's partner. im leaning on it being seanzie

Still voted more mafia than you lol

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:28 pm I will say, I do have this tinfoil read in regards to SPF and Lily.

It may be a hot take but:

Spoiler: show

There is a small chance where Lily and SPF are actually mafia together and went from hard core town reading each other to hard core bussing each other and with how confident they are on each other and in the mindset of "when they flip mafia" without any paranoi could be a potential mafia on mafia. This would be an example of going overboard with bussing as both are trying to make the other look worse by attacking each other. But also, the main reason I started thinking is because Lily had a read that she didn't want to out but from her pov, if she believes SPF is mafia, doesn't she think she may die and would want to out the read/legacy today incase she isn't alive tomorrow if she is town and she believes SPF is mafia.

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:35 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:29 pm if anyone can name a reason why im being voted that isnt just "policy" then i'll self vote right now and stop posting for the rest of the day

btw this offer is still open

tbh, other than policy, I really can't :/

I do think you are being very helpful so far today and I promise I will inherit your legacy just like I did with Boqs if you flip town.

So your current team is Lily/Seanzie? And you have Nanook/Porscha as town?

And then Rondo is in between like a patty between two buns?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:38 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:35 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:29 pm if anyone can name a reason why im being voted that isnt just "policy" then i'll self vote right now and stop posting for the rest of the day

btw this offer is still open

tbh, other than policy, I really can't :/

I do think you are being very helpful so far today and I promise I will inherit your legacy just like I did with Boqs if you flip town.

So your current team is Lily/Seanzie? And you have Nanook/Porscha as town?

And then Rondo is in between like a patty between two buns?

yes. lily is mafia and the final wolf is between rondo/seanzie, so the play after i die is to trubo lily and then hope that you get the 50/50 between seanzie and rondo right

if anyone outside of that is mafia then whatever

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:42 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:38 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:35 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:29 pm if anyone can name a reason why im being voted that isnt just "policy" then i'll self vote right now and stop posting for the rest of the day

btw this offer is still open

tbh, other than policy, I really can't :/

I do think you are being very helpful so far today and I promise I will inherit your legacy just like I did with Boqs if you flip town.

So your current team is Lily/Seanzie? And you have Nanook/Porscha as town?

And then Rondo is in between like a patty between two buns?

how totally useful

I mean, she has made her world crystal clear lol.

And SPF does have the most unique perspective given wagons yesterday as well.

What are your current thoughts rn Porscha?

i'ma follow up on rondo's post bugging you about feeling lackadaisical about yesterday's wagons and accuse you of it here as well. get your hands dirty or I will consider you a strong wolf potential

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 pm have we considered spending some time looking into the secondary wolf instead of cannibalizing exclusively between spf and lily or have we collectively decided to be dumb about this

I mean, they have done that themselves tbh lmfao.

But I believe you are town. So if you exclude them, you are looking at Nanook/Seanzie/Rondo.

Tbh, I think Nanook is leaning town now based on my experiment I conducted yesterday and I already explained about it as well.

Additionally I don't think Seanzie/Rondo are w/w for how they talk to each other when one enters the thread. Seems very sassy and they are confused with each other sometimes in where I wouldn't expect partners to be that confused with each other lol.

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:59 am I'm him
I'm him
I'm him.

Let's get this shit, I'm hype. Holy fuck.

I have to go to bed early cause I have to wake up early tomorrow for the event, and I won't be on for majority of tomorrow. I'll be on very late at night tomorrow if I can. So if you have any other pressing questions Porscha-sama, let me know!

Also, I was kinda thinking about it, besides the tinfoil I had on Lily/SPF, even in the world where if SPF is mafia, Nook, Lily, Porscha are town and her partners is very likely just between Porscha and Seanzie lol

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:56 am Also @staypositivefriend when you have the chance, could you discuss why you have Seanzie over Rondo as scum and partnered to Lily from your pov? Do you have Seanzie mainly because of partner interactions and associations with Alison/Lily (fypov) and potential dissociations with Rondo from Alison/Lily (fypov)? Are there any indpendent sr you have that make you have Seanzie over Rondo?

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:54 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:46 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:44 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 pm nook and spf lock town everybody else is debatable

oh well, if you believe SPF is "lock town" you should attempt to convince the rest of town as well.

I am listening though.

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:54 pm Ehh.. Aro might be a wolf.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:57 pm Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:54 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:46 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:44 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 pm nook and spf lock town everybody else is debatable

oh well, if you believe SPF is "lock town" you should attempt to convince the rest of town as well.

I am listening though.

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:59 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:57 pm Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

ok so who is her partner in your world even tho I think you're wrong

Currently have aro/sean filling out my poe

can I ask why rondo is not possible for you rn

Emphasis on currently lol. Honestly I've only done barebones thinking beyond spf, I wouldn't sheep that poe if I died on the spot as there's a very good chance it would change overnight if spf does flip red

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:07 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:01 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:00 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:55 pm porscha legit if spf is town she is not going to be findable for me alone can u help me understand ur world view??

I have personal feelings that I am relatively good at being able to tell when 2 towns are at each others' throats, it rarely fails me when I see it, and I saw it yesterday between boq vs spf and now with you and spf. spf stronger feeling on individual read and she is the common denominator between both instances. sorry I will not be iso'ing or providing an essay and maybe it's wrong this time but I have yet to see a reason why it's wrong when rondo and sean and aro get to sit here twiddling their thumbs hardly doing anything and I have to pretend like one of them isn't a wolf

okay so who is the wolf team then?

any and all are in poe outside of nook and spf tho you're like third town in my list so that leaves most likely rondo / aro / sean

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:19 am Ok, let's do this @Porscha

[unvote]SPF[/unvote]

I am going to another Iranian Demonstration, and I am feeling revolutionary. Fuck this shit. I am town and if you think I am mafia, then let's kill who you believe my partner could be if that's the case.

I agree with you on Nook town. If you think Lily and SPF are both town, then from my POV, it's just Seanzie and Rondo.

So let's talk about who you sr more between them and your views/thoughts there.

Let's change the world huh

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:37 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:24 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:19 am Ok, let's do this @Porscha

[unvote]SPF[/unvote]

I am going to another Iranian Demonstration, and I am feeling revolutionary. Fuck this shit. I am town and if you think I am mafia, then let's kill who you believe my partner could be if that's the case.

I agree with you on Nook town. If you think Lily and SPF are both town, then from my POV, it's just Seanzie and Rondo.

So let's talk about who you sr more between them and your views/thoughts there.

Let's change the world huh

ya but i'm changing the world with you in my poe. so why don't you start with how you aren't partnered with sean or rondo

Well as I said I am town, and if you think I am mafia, then you believe my partner is between Sean and Rondo right?

I think I am clearly not with Rondo based on how they started off the game with a strong tr on me only to drop it when they saw Mac, "who they didn't tr" have a sr on me towards day 2. Additionally, Rondo kept shading me when we had the exact same perspective and from then on kind of started throwing me into POE. Additionally, Rondo has been very passive aggressive towards my slot throughout the entire game lol. I think it's pretty obvious there.

With Seanzie, the biggest thing I could say is they were the first ones to start pushing on me and then based on my reaction, they started pushing more and more and got Mac involved into Sr me. Additionally, I stated my read about the meta and all that and they were questioning whether I read his games or what not and put attention where if we are partners, there is no reason to put attention there.


But as to which one I believe is more mafia, I believe Rondo is likelier to be mafia than Seanzie.

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:56 am Also @staypositivefriend when you have the chance, could you discuss why you have Seanzie over Rondo as scum and partnered to Lily from your pov? Do you have Seanzie mainly because of partner interactions and associations with Alison/Lily (fypov) and potential dissociations with Rondo from Alison/Lily (fypov)? Are there any indpendent sr you have that make you have Seanzie over Rondo?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:20 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:17 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:12 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:04 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:57 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:55 am also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

Right and I get that, which is why I want to work with you on focusing/discussing about Rondo/Seanzie as well.

Another thing I wanted to ask and maybe this is to challenge your reads a bit Porscha. FYPOV, seeing as how Wilgy wanted to kill SPF today if Boq flipped town and seeing as how you are a defender for SPF and you are considered top town, why do you think mafia killed Wilgy over you if they could have just gotten more votes onto SPF if she is town and head into Lylo? If SPF is town, what other reason do you believe you are alive and which of your reads could be wrong if that's the case or do you think it is something entirely different?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:47 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:37 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:33 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:31 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:28 pm
Seanzie how are you not partnered with SPF?

*brushes Rondo aside*

dont be lewd, its against the community standards

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

since you wont answer me [VOTE: SPF ] aubergine

I didn't answer what?

@Porscha

This is an example of a convo between Rondo and Seanzie from yesterday EoD that came off as not w/w because as the convo progressed, Seanzie seemed to be confused with what Rondo was talking about and they don't seem to be on the same page.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:11 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:59 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:57 pm Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

ok so who is her partner in your world even tho I think you're wrong

Currently have aro/sean filling out my poe

can I ask why rondo is not possible for you rn

Emphasis on currently lol. Honestly I've only done barebones thinking beyond spf, I wouldn't sheep that poe if I died on the spot as there's a very good chance it would change overnight if spf does flip red

Can I ask you why I am?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:54 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:11 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:59 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:57 pm Anyways what it comes down to is im tunneled on spf and don't see myself breaking out of it so we've gotta kill one of us today cause if we're both town and both alive at f5 we probably lose

I dknt like strong arming stuff but we're just at that point

ok so who is her partner in your world even tho I think you're wrong

Currently have aro/sean filling out my poe

can I ask why rondo is not possible for you rn

Emphasis on currently lol. Honestly I've only done barebones thinking beyond spf, I wouldn't sheep that poe if I died on the spot as there's a very good chance it would change overnight if spf does flip red

Can I ask you why I am?

Why you are what?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:01 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:42 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:38 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:35 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:29 pm if anyone can name a reason why im being voted that isnt just "policy" then i'll self vote right now and stop posting for the rest of the day

btw this offer is still open

tbh, other than policy, I really can't :/

I do think you are being very helpful so far today and I promise I will inherit your legacy just like I did with Boqs if you flip town.

So your current team is Lily/Seanzie? And you have Nanook/Porscha as town?

And then Rondo is in between like a patty between two buns?

how totally useful

I mean, she has made her world crystal clear lol.

And SPF does have the most unique perspective given wagons yesterday as well.

What are your current thoughts rn Porscha?

i'ma follow up on rondo's post bugging you about feeling lackadaisical about yesterday's wagons and accuse you of it here as well. get your hands dirty or I will consider you a strong wolf potential

Wait is this about me or to me or about something I said?

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:40 pm

Happy birthday @Porscha

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:02 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 pm have we considered spending some time looking into the secondary wolf instead of cannibalizing exclusively between spf and lily or have we collectively decided to be dumb about this

I mean, they have done that themselves tbh lmfao.

But I believe you are town. So if you exclude them, you are looking at Nanook/Seanzie/Rondo.

Tbh, I think Nanook is leaning town now based on my experiment I conducted yesterday and I already explained about it as well.

Additionally I don't think Seanzie/Rondo are w/w for how they talk to each other when one enters the thread. Seems very sassy and they are confused with each other sometimes in where I wouldn't expect partners to be that confused with each other lol.

While you are correct I only think its fair to say I can fake it as wolf

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:09 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:54 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:46 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:44 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 pm nook and spf lock town everybody else is debatable

oh well, if you believe SPF is "lock town" you should attempt to convince the rest of town as well.

I am listening though.

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

Well Aero and me just solved the game spf and Lily or @Porscha if you want to look at Aero for pushing this again because I know I am town

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:24 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:47 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:37 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:33 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:31 pm

*brushes Rondo aside*

dont be lewd, its against the community standards

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

since you wont answer me [VOTE: SPF ] aubergine

I didn't answer what?

@Porscha

This is an example of a convo between Rondo and Seanzie from yesterday EoD that came off as not w/w because as the convo progressed, Seanzie seemed to be confused with what Rondo was talking about and they don't seem to be on the same page.

I thought it was very clear that his brushing me aside in regards to my question resulted in a spf vote

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:22 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:20 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:17 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:12 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:04 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:57 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:55 am also I do not read games i wasn't in I do not have time to read mafia games I am not in so appealing to it is unfortunately moot

I mean it's important if you truly want to find me as town and realize that my playstyle here that you are describing and upset about correlates with what I have done in my town games.

I know you can do those things in your town games but then I guess I start to ask when do you start playing optimally once you are later in a game? is it not an easy emulation for you to copy as maf? are you polarized?

I wouldn't say I am polarized, but when you harp on me for mentioning to you that you need to convince others that if you believe SPF is town if you believe that, it's because I speak from experience and it's how I operate. I know that in this game, getting votes and having town vote together is very important. From your pov, if you believe Lily and Nanook are likely town in addition to SPF, then from your pov, it's very likely the other 2 mafia just stack onto SPF anyways and go into LyLo. Because Lily and Nanook are tunneled onto SPF and that is their first priority, they likely won't vote elsewhere till they get SPF resolved, which is why I was saying you would need to convince them why u believe SPF is townie. That's where my mindset is and you were giving me side eyes for that when that's my thought process.

As far as my treatment and reads, you expect me not to read off "sheep" or off "legacy" but that is how I play and it's how I operate lol. I pay a lot of attention to the dead town voices and attempt to make sure they are heard through my reads. I do carry legacies and it's how I operate. If you don't like that, then that's fine. Agree to disagree, but that's how I play the game and is my playstyle.

I understand your point. my point is that the best way to do this is to not sit here and town case spf. it's to find the actual wolves

Right and I get that, which is why I want to work with you on focusing/discussing about Rondo/Seanzie as well.

Another thing I wanted to ask and maybe this is to challenge your reads a bit Porscha. FYPOV, seeing as how Wilgy wanted to kill SPF today if Boq flipped town and seeing as how you are a defender for SPF and you are considered top town, why do you think mafia killed Wilgy over you if they could have just gotten more votes onto SPF if she is town and head into Lylo? If SPF is town, what other reason do you believe you are alive and which of your reads could be wrong if that's the case or do you think it is something entirely different?

Seanzie and I are not w/w together but does that eliminate us being t/t together? Not that I do have a lock town read on him

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:02 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:01 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:42 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:38 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:35 pm

btw this offer is still open

tbh, other than policy, I really can't :/

I do think you are being very helpful so far today and I promise I will inherit your legacy just like I did with Boqs if you flip town.

So your current team is Lily/Seanzie? And you have Nanook/Porscha as town?

And then Rondo is in between like a patty between two buns?

how totally useful

I mean, she has made her world crystal clear lol.

And SPF does have the most unique perspective given wagons yesterday as well.

What are your current thoughts rn Porscha?

i'ma follow up on rondo's post bugging you about feeling lackadaisical about yesterday's wagons and accuse you of it here as well. get your hands dirty or I will consider you a strong wolf potential

Wait is this about me or to me or about something I said?

You had mentioned aro felt lax during last eod and I was just bringing it up again for my own point

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:02 pm Anyways Porscha, as I mentioned, if you believe that SPF/Lily is t/t, then from my perspective, both Seanzie/Porscha would have to be mafia, but as I stated, I’m not sure if that makes sense since I believe Seanzie/Porscha are not w/w for the reasons I stated. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Also @staypositivefriend and @Lilypetal , I know y’all are both against each other, but in a hypothetical, let’s say the other flips town, who would you believe the 2 mafia to be then from your pov?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:51 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:02 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:43 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:40 pm have we considered spending some time looking into the secondary wolf instead of cannibalizing exclusively between spf and lily or have we collectively decided to be dumb about this

I mean, they have done that themselves tbh lmfao.

But I believe you are town. So if you exclude them, you are looking at Nanook/Seanzie/Rondo.

Tbh, I think Nanook is leaning town now based on my experiment I conducted yesterday and I already explained about it as well.

Additionally I don't think Seanzie/Rondo are w/w for how they talk to each other when one enters the thread. Seems very sassy and they are confused with each other sometimes in where I wouldn't expect partners to be that confused with each other lol.

While you are correct I only think its fair to say I can fake it as wolf

Lol, every time I say something that about you that I don’t think you can do as mafia, you state you could do it and fake it, but then when people put you in PoE or scum read you, you go “I’m obvious town, how can people thing I’m scum” or for the Alison thing you go “you’re blind if you think I’m with Alison.” I’m so confused lmfao and maybe it’s your play style, but it weirds me out.

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:55 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:09 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:58 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:54 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:46 pm

arogame123 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:44 pm

oh well, if you believe SPF is "lock town" you should attempt to convince the rest of town as well.

I am listening though.

I would be playing against my own best interests in spending all day trying to convince anyone why spf is town when I just said I'd like to look into everybody else.

Even you yourself just said you don't have an answer as to why spf is wolf. so why are you putting the onus on me to convince you of something you don't even believe yourself? I'm voting you I knew I should have tried to flash wagon you yesterday

? Why would you be playing against your own interested in spending all day to convince others why SPF is town if she is the one that is likely to die today based on the votes so far.

I never said to convince me. I said the rest of town. I am not opposed to voting elsewhere depending what happens lol. But I was inheriting a legacy from Boq because that is what I do and how we win mountainous set ups lmfao. As I said, from SPF"s POV, she has Lily/Seanzie as the likely team.

I don't believe there is any world where I am able to convince anyone of SPF's alignment if they haven't gotten there themselves by now. And it clogs up thread state talking all about SPF, which I distinctly just stated I'd like to not do.

And of course you wouldn't be opposed to voting elsewhere. You have no strong feelings. you're just sitting around passively sounding town and feeling no pressure because spf is town and lily is probable (not guaranteed to me yet) town so you're just waiting around for someone else to push somewhere else for you to make a case. who even is *your* poe?

My point with SPF then is if you case someone else, it is very likely to be dismissed since everyone else wants to kill SPF first from your POV.

Porscha, have you read my posts from yesterday and the towns list I made and the POE I established? I have made it very clear where I stand lol. You say I sit passively but I made votes every day and made my stance clear every day lol. I made a decent sized post about my POE and towns list and asked everyone including you to comment on it, so I know you have seen it. So don't come at me sideways saying I have been sitting passively when I have clearly been making votes and taking stances lmfao.

Towns are Porscha/Nanook/Seanzie

POE: Rondo/Lily/SPF

I switched Nanook and Rondo from yesterday based off the analysis I discussed about Nanook.

Well Aero and me just solved the game spf and Lily or @Porscha if you want to look at Aero for pushing this again because I know I am town

I stated it was a tinfoil thought and you had the same. So why do you say stuff like this where you agree with me but then shade me at the same time lol?