The Syndicate

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:58 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:53 am True, it does involve me doing some preflipping but I also felt like you didn’t really believe in any of those pushes as you were doing them, maybe I’m just confbiased rn

Which trs and srs do you feel strongest about rn?

I feel strongly about Creature and belzy from the non-confirms.

Feel mildly decent about c4, nutella and MR and others that i can't remember from the top of my head.

I don't have any super strong scum reads so far over than im casting my eye at TSP who knows how to read me well and hasn't really made an attempt to solve me as far as I can tell.

Paopan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:57 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:58 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:53 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:52 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:51 am

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:48 am Unvoting TSP and Sloonei, so for a first time not voting 8 people but 6. I will probably slowly downsize to just a few

Sloonei I agree with, tsp I’m 50/50 on

I think wilgy and hk are town so it would be cool if they won’t get voted out today lol

If Wilg is town all d1 eod wagons were on town, lol, and that actually could be. I want to investigate HK further before considering him to be town.

All wagons being town would not surprise me. It felt off to me and I pride myself on gamestate reading.

Yeah, eod1 was horrible.

Everyone says that EoD1 was horrible
But I actually got a lot of reads from that train wreck
It has its merits and it really gave me a lot of info on everyone and how to proceed with the ff. day

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:06 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:01 am

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:58 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:53 am True, it does involve me doing some preflipping but I also felt like you didn’t really believe in any of those pushes as you were doing them, maybe I’m just confbiased rn

Which trs and srs do you feel strongest about rn?

I feel strongly about Creature and belzy from the non-confirms.

Feel mildly decent about c4, nutella and MR and others that i can't remember from the top of my head.

I don't have any super strong scum reads so far over than im casting my eye at TSP who knows how to read me well and hasn't really made an attempt to solve me as far as I can tell.

Aighttt Ty for this

Can you elaborate on why u tr those people?

Creature - his detatched doom crying was towny as I recall he did that in the past in his town game. His scum game feels very different here compared to the one I played him on. I think Dizzy sorta shaded him heavily as well iirc, I think I had an interaction with dizzy on that which you can check in my iso

Belzy - I think they were the first one to call dizzy scum? Doubt a partner would bus dizzy that early when they had potential to go very deep imo. There was a derp they had iirc and i remember a post from them on day 1 whcih made me snap townread them.

C4 reminds me of his town game in Yolo's invitational. Do you feel the same way there?

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:03 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:07 pm wilgy and MR might be wolfing

Why? I feel like ur game view is pretty narrow in the posts I’ve see. . What’s your other reads?

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:16 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:23 pm

Phil and Gloria wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:29 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:28 pm Creature has mostly stood to the side shaking their head at us and commenting on how bad things are going.

In a vacuum that's scummy, but it seems lots of people have meta and I do not.

welcome to playing with creature

he loves to catastrophize

thoughts on nutella?

think the way nutella is flitting from thought to thought and read to read is more in her villager meta than wolf meta. I think she'd be...tunnelier? as a wolf

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:05 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:54 pm Still feels like we're dealing with an above-average skilled wolfteam and that'd point out to players like nutella, alexa and even possibly dyachei

dya is far more in wolf range than either alexa or me

actually

@dyachei why did you decide to shoot marmot? i don't see any mention of him in your ISO prior to that

i'd think the shot is clearing, why TF does mafia shoot a buddy day 1 otherwise?

I saw he was a top wagon and I read his iso. it was limp af

I don’t get this post. Doesn’t Nutella tunnel as town too?

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:57 am i've been pretty clear about wanting to be dead before friday. not sure why you think I'd kill a wolf if I were a wolf for cred

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:18 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 8:55 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:49 pm Dear wolves,

Let’s make this clear so you don’t waste your time: I will not be one of your miselims this game.

You will soon think I could be, of course. Even with the postcap I will likely not be able to keep up with the tryhards on this roster, and I will inevitably be perceived as low-hanging fruit. ‘Marmot will be an easy chop’ you’ll think. ‘Probably a flash wagon candidate.’

But you will be mistaken. You simply won’t be able to mis-elim me. Not this time. I will pull out the WIM when I need to. I have tricks up my sleeves. In fact, save me the energy and just treat this post as an inno child claim. I am for all your intents and purposes untouchable. If you decide you want me out of this game, you will need to spend a kill on me.

It is not your fault you randed wolf, and I am nothing if not sympathetic to an unfortunate rand, so I give you this warning now to help you plan around it. Everyone deserves a fair shot.

In the words of Descartes, ‘I post therefore I am town’. Or, in the words of a more modern philosopher, ‘U Kant touch this’.

Good luck, wolves. Just don’t say I didn’t warn you.

Town

Nanda kore wa

Dizzy can you explain because that post is stunningly NAI

sabie12 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:02 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:13 am

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:45 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:30 pm why are people considering dizzy scummy? i'm still in process of rring but i do not see this at all and historically i have a very good read on them, if that matters

I'm thinking because they were defending marmot who flipped mafia. I don't know if that's a norm for them though to defend a teammate like that.

I know Dizzy doesn't like bussing teammates, especially early on

This was the one notable thing from falcon about dizzy stating that he doesn't like to bus teammates early on.

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:20 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender



1 or both is Maf

Can someone whose good at reading falcon gimme a read on him? I feel like he’s always out of the loop regardless of alignment and it’s hard for me to relay when it’s genuine or not until he gets more involved

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:49 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:18 pm I need to leave for a few hours but it might be for the rest of the day maybe.

If you are gonna chop me or shoot me, do it today, today is the best day because im not invested, i haven had the time to play here and read all of it. Please don't wait until i get invested in the game to kill me, don't waste my time.

If im not chopped i promise i will keep a watchful eye during the night and try to out some thoughts we can work with tomorrow.

Guillo what happened to this?

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:50 am Reading guillos iso I’m less sure of him being a hit now

He does have some decent moments in it

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:39 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:20 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:22 pm Pao, Ender



1 or both is Maf

Can someone whose good at reading falcon gimme a read on him? I feel like he’s always out of the loop regardless of alignment and it’s hard for me to relay when it’s genuine or not until he gets more involved

I am excellent at reading falcon. He's lock town, never rescind

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:40 am

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:49 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:18 pm I need to leave for a few hours but it might be for the rest of the day maybe.

If you are gonna chop me or shoot me, do it today, today is the best day because im not invested, i haven had the time to play here and read all of it. Please don't wait until i get invested in the game to kill me, don't waste my time.

If im not chopped i promise i will keep a watchful eye during the night and try to out some thoughts we can work with tomorrow.

Guillo what happened to this?

I havent had time

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:50 am Reading guillos iso I’m less sure of him being a hit now

He does have some decent moments in it

Reading your ISO it gives me vibes of a wolf who shot another wolf for cred to be honest.

Although it could also be you fearing that im fooling you again like in our last game, so what is it, is your shade thrown at me agenda or guillo fear? Hmm?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm [VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:48 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm [VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok

There's prolly at max 2 teammates in this list

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:07 pm I don't like the thought of Wilgy being town, but that's not a good way to solve. So I think we should give him the floor a bit today and solve.

Anyway, I should've been sleeping, so I'll attempt to do that and definitely not think of something game related in 10 minutes and start posting again

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:49 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:48 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm [VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok

There's prolly at max 2 teammates in this list

Why do you say that. Explain please.

dyachei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:57 am i've been pretty clear about wanting to be dead before friday. not sure why you think I'd kill a wolf if I were a wolf for cred

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:51 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:49 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:48 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm [VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok

There's prolly at max 2 teammates in this list

Why do you say that. Explain please.

Dizzy does not like to bus. Especially if the team has no reason to do so, and w/ only 1 Maf down at this stage, it's not likely that Dizzy would bus outside of necessity

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:55 am Also it’s ridiculous we have this many posts on day 2 I’m probably not catching up.

People need to keep dying so we can get thread pace to a responsible amount

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:53 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:51 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:49 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:48 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:47 pm [VOTE: 112 Wilgy Paopan TSP Sabie Sig] aubergine

Suddenly I have votes to spare but that's ok

There's prolly at max 2 teammates in this list

Why do you say that. Explain please.

Dizzy does not like to bus. Especially if the team has no reason to do so, and w/ only 1 Maf down at this stage, it's not likely that Dizzy would bus outside of necessity

Then why would Dizzy include any wolf in that list? I thought you had reads on any of them names.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:56 am lp and paopan

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:12 am On page 16 or something

Town:
Alexa
Guillo
Sean
Marmot
Belzy
Ilario

This list could probably be longer, but these are the people I care more about.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:20 am We should not chop Marmot D1. He's probably town and in any case his alignment will show, and I'd rather have him around if he's town.

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:12 am On page 16 or something

Town:
Alexa
Guillo
Sean
Marmot
Belzy
Ilario

This list could probably be longer, but these are the people I care more about.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:20 am We should not chop Marmot D1. He's probably town and in any case his alignment will show, and I'd rather have him around if he's town.

I know marmot is dead, but this shows some heavy team defense going on I could see that being a agreed mafia strategy and definitely think who dizzy pushed to save should be eyed

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 am The list is pretty towny in general, so there weren't a lot of options. I think nutella is gaining scum equity but really probably can't have leveled up her game this much, Mac has standard townie energy, Dya shot a wolf, Belzy has mech. I'm not sure if I agree with your read that wolves are definitely on your wagon but to the extent that there might be wolves there they're almost certainly in these two names

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:12 am On page 16 or something

Town:
Alexa
Guillo
Sean
Marmot
Belzy
Ilario

This list could probably be longer, but these are the people I care more about.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:20 am We should not chop Marmot D1. He's probably town and in any case his alignment will show, and I'd rather have him around if he's town.

I know marmot is dead, but this shows some heavy team defense going on I could see that being a agreed mafia strategy and definitely think who dizzy pushed to save should be eyed

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:08 pm For the record, I'm not really up for the Nut paranoia. I also should not make decision based on wants. But I really do believe she has been quite towny, also meta wise. I usually read Nut pretty well. Only thing that gives me pause is the info that her role is a good scum pick.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 am The list is pretty towny in general, so there weren't a lot of options. I think nutella is gaining scum equity but really probably can't have leveled up her game this much, Mac has standard townie energy, Dya shot a wolf, Belzy has mech. I'm not sure if I agree with your read that wolves are definitely on your wagon but to the extent that there might be wolves there they're almost certainly in these two names

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:02 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 am The list is pretty towny in general, so there weren't a lot of options. I think nutella is gaining scum equity but really probably can't have leveled up her game this much, Mac has standard townie energy, Dya shot a wolf, Belzy has mech. I'm not sure if I agree with your read that wolves are definitely on your wagon but to the extent that there might be wolves there they're almost certainly in these two names

If there are no wolves on my wagon, why do you think my wagon is getting traction?

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:03 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:12 am On page 16 or something

Town:
Alexa
Guillo
Sean
Marmot
Belzy
Ilario

This list could probably be longer, but these are the people I care more about.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:20 am We should not chop Marmot D1. He's probably town and in any case his alignment will show, and I'd rather have him around if he's town.

I know marmot is dead, but this shows some heavy team defense going on I could see that being a agreed mafia strategy and definitely think who dizzy pushed to save should be eyed

From the list Dizzy posted, I think only guillo would be under the maybe scum category.

Ilario is incredibly unlikely because he shot dizzy
Alexa is towny and I townread their reaction for the alison shot.
sean is confirmed.
and belzy was heavily scumreading dizzy

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:04 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 am The list is pretty towny in general, so there weren't a lot of options. I think nutella is gaining scum equity but really probably can't have leveled up her game this much, Mac has standard townie energy, Dya shot a wolf, Belzy has mech. I'm not sure if I agree with your read that wolves are definitely on your wagon but to the extent that there might be wolves there they're almost certainly in these two names

remember that one hydra game

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:03 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:08 pm For the record, I'm not really up for the Nut paranoia. I also should not make decision based on wants. But I really do believe she has been quite towny, also meta wise. I usually read Nut pretty well. Only thing that gives me pause is the info that her role is a good scum pick.

I think we should go for Nutella

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:37 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:34 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:33 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:27 pm also the game just ended where guillo fooled TF out of me as a wolf, and when i realized he was a wolf there, that was part of what spurred my push because I realized almost anything is in his wolf range.

Oof.

alexa/dizzy:
w/w or w/t?

Wat

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:10 pm 112
Creature
DrWilgy
hollowkatt
LinearPoint
sabie12
sig
TonyStarkPrime

Boom. If there's not wolf in here I quit mafia forever. Probably.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 7:35 pm If people who know Creature think he's town, I'm good with sheeping that. I don't really know him, though I'm sure we have played several times actually. Put Paopan in instead.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:03 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:12 am On page 16 or something

Town:
Alexa
Guillo
Sean
Marmot
Belzy
Ilario

This list could probably be longer, but these are the people I care more about.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:20 am We should not chop Marmot D1. He's probably town and in any case his alignment will show, and I'd rather have him around if he's town.

I know marmot is dead, but this shows some heavy team defense going on I could see that being a agreed mafia strategy and definitely think who dizzy pushed to save should be eyed

From the list Dizzy posted, I think only guillo would be under the maybe scum category.

Ilario is incredibly unlikely because he shot dizzy
Alexa is towny and I townread their reaction for the alison shot.
sean is confirmed.
and belzy was heavily scumreading dizzy