The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:21 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:11 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:03 pm I mean if Elo flips scum, we should wait and see what would happen Night 8 before we decide whether to try our luck with lynching an inactive (nijuu/sig...not hot on sig tbh) or start looking at one of the following:

speedchuck
Quin
DDL
Definitely agreed with the first part, but I would not remove nutella from that list.
Do you have any thoughts on which of those three might be scum?
don't make me start tunneling nutella again. I thought everyone told me to stop

What do you think of my speedchuck theory?
I'm not familiar with it. Where did you discuss it?

I liked the theory that speedchuck is town due to being the third wagon on Day 4 after Jay and Wilgy.

oh ignore my theory then.

Anyway it's just cos speedchuck is a fucking great mafia player I worry about him.

damn him.

let's focus on DDL / Quin if Eloh is scum and nijuu isnt.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:30 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:23 pm maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that
Well that's not unsportsman like and I've done a similar thing myself once.

My role was a jester who turned into a serial killer if he didn't get lynched day 1. I got lynched day 1 and won the game but another player used a revive on me with made me "unwin" the game so now I had to be a serial killer. I proceeded to spend the whole game without killing anyone so people would think I was still a jester. It was fun because I acted as scummy as possible for a full game. And then I won it again.
Who's bad?

Eloh.

Then one of Quin/Kyle/Sig/Blooper

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm**

Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:35 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:09 am I'm still not voting for malakim any time soon.
Not wanting to pull off the band-aid?

Good job everyone.

What do we think of LC? He was early to adopt the J3 suspicion last cycle but voted Speed. I recall thinking he was bad previous and now something isn't sitting right.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:47 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:44 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:37 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:35 pmWhat do we think of LC? He was early to adopt the J3 suspicion last cycle but voted Speed. I recall thinking he was bad previous and now something isn't sitting right.
I don't recall adopting the JJJ suspicion. Are you sure your memories of that are accurate?
Lemme double cherck.
Chercking is what happens when a jerk checks. jk
You right. Idk what made me think you agreed with it. Bad feeling about LC absolved.

These posts came within ~10 minutes of each other. That means in those 10 minutes, wilgy went from naming LC as a suspect, to being refuted and totally backing off the suspicion. I get strong anti-teammate vibes from this. If scum wilgy wants to bus his teammate, he's going to do so with actual evidence and he's not going to throw in the towel immediately. This looks like a sincere effort by wilgy to smear Long Con, and when it was revealed that his line of suspicion was false, he had to abandon the plan.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 pm Who's bad?
one of Quin/Kyle/Sig/Blooper

which one?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:14 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 pm Who's bad?
one of Quin/Kyle/Sig/Blooper
which one?

For now Quin.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:16 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 pm Who's bad?
one of Quin/Kyle/Sig/Blooper
which one?
For now Quin.

I don't think so.
why are you ruling out nutella?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:19 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:23 pm maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that
Well that's not unsportsman like and I've done a similar thing myself once.

My role was a jester who turned into a serial killer if he didn't get lynched day 1. I got lynched day 1 and won the game but another player used a revive on me with made me "unwin" the game so now I had to be a serial killer. I proceeded to spend the whole game without killing anyone so people would think I was still a jester. It was fun because I acted as scummy as possible for a full game. And then I won it again.

Oh my god that's beautiful, that's a wonderful story, can you link me to that game?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:21 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:16 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 pm Who's bad?
one of Quin/Kyle/Sig/Blooper
which one?
For now Quin.
I don't think so.
why are you ruling out nutella?

Day 1 thing.

Well I'm not ruling out, but it's like extreme tinfoil scenario.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:21 pm**

Reading through DDL's posts and this was a funny little moment:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:35 am Catching up.

Man.

Who were my town and bad reads again?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:52 am Ok just ISO'd myself. I have a better understanding of where my reads were.

Start of Day 3, after we'd had a long lull in play. So it's believable. But... funny. I wanted to bring it up.

Otherwise this ISO is not setting off any alarms thus far.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:23 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:16 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:14 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:30 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:29 pm Who's bad?
one of Quin/Kyle/Sig/Blooper
which one?
For now Quin.
I don't think so.
why are you ruling out nutella?
Day 1 thing.

Well I'm not ruling out, but it's like extreme tinfoil scenario.

what are your immediate thoughts on all the other players you listed?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:

long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.

who are the remaining little mountains?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm**

quin - he is being very legit most of the time but could be a ploy to make us like him. And I buy Epi's theories.
kyle - I really don't like his voting pattern. I don't like his tone. But he is helping and I confess I havent looked closely to his interactions with scum (same for Quin)
sig - he has very little contribution so I havent formed or tried to form an opinion
ninju - why are you even asking this question? Divide 2 by the number of players you think may be scum and here is your chance of lynching scum ninja.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:31 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:19 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:23 pm maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that
Well that's not unsportsman like and I've done a similar thing myself once.

My role was a jester who turned into a serial killer if he didn't get lynched day 1. I got lynched day 1 and won the game but another player used a revive on me with made me "unwin" the game so now I had to be a serial killer. I proceeded to spend the whole game without killing anyone so people would think I was still a jester. It was fun because I acted as scummy as possible for a full game. And then I won it again.
Oh my god that's beautiful, that's a wonderful story, can you link me to that game?

Starts in this page.

https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/20 ... t-57091402

Warning: This is an Aries game. Expect extreme disregard for game balance, host self insertions into gameplay, and megalomaniac narration that can make THE GAME look humble. Try not to let your impressionable infant brain be influenced by it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:33 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?

Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:37 pm**

Alright yeah I've been trying to find an explanation for nutella's day 1 survival that doesn't involve her being Everest and the best I come up with is that she's actually Olympus Mons and Everest is one of the inactives. But this still means she's not scum, so I guess I'm back to ruling her out.

I have serious doubts that any of LC, speedchuck, and kyle could be bad. dunya is town on volume alone. The DDL ISO I just attempted yielded nothing alarming. Quin has felt abundantly town for most of the game and I do not love any of the arguments I've seen against him this game.

Elohcin almost has to be bad by process of elimination. And then I am back to primarily suspecting sig and niju. Of the two, I think there is actual evidence for niju being bad, and actual evidence for sig being good. I've been trying to kick up any argument that would incriminate somebody other than the two inactives after Elohcin, but I can come up with nothing that I believe in at this time.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:37 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?
Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu

Do you have an argument against DDL?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:49 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?
Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu
Do you have an argument against DDL?

Mostly gut feeling, but also cus lately it feels like he's putting more effort into casting suspicion on players who I think are town than anyone else.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:51 pm**

We have to win this game soon so I can stop posting at 666. I wanna cash in on that good luck.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:52 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?
Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu
Do you have an argument against DDL?
Mostly gut feeling, but also cus lately it feels like he's putting more effort into casting suspicion on players who I think are town than anyone else.

which do you think is more likely: DDL is scum, or one of the inactives?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:55 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:51 pm We have to win this game soon so I can stop posting at 666. I wanna cash in on that good luck.

pfft. amateur

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:05 pm**

Jay spent a great deal of time arguing that low posters had an increased chance of being scum in this game and thus should be considered as lynch candidates. He said plenty of things about sprit, sig, and dom/malakim individually. This is the extent of his individual mentions of Glorf/INH/Niju:

Spoiler: show

And this is everything Wilgy had to say about the player slot formerly known as Glorf:

Spoiler: show

So we have one scum player completely ignoring the empty slot except when mechanically obligated to give it a nod, and another straining hard to present a hypothetical defense of it unprompted.

If wilgy is attempting to defend a teammate here, his effort is a little sloppy, but I do not entirely rule it out. I don't think this was wilgy's most focused game of all time. He bailed on the thread last night when pressure was mounting on him. That tells me he was not entirely confident in his ability to defend himself.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:07 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:52 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:33 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:25 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:59 pm Long Con is the easiest suspect to name after Elohcin, but one of the standout interactions from Wilgy's ISO is this chain of posts:
long con is indie. my mafia dream confirmed it.
who are the remaining little mountains?
Eloh, and then DDL, Sig, or Nijuu
Do you have an argument against DDL?
Mostly gut feeling, but also cus lately it feels like he's putting more effort into casting suspicion on players who I think are town than anyone else.
which do you think is more likely: DDL is scum, or one of the inactives?

hmmmmm

i guess to me it depends on whether or not DDL's early skirmish with Jay paired with the emotional response was real or manufactured, since most of the sig and nijuukyugou stuff (lack of stuff) is non indicative. there's some other factors regarding sig since he did make some posts and he has been posted about...

I was joking earlier about tricking the mafia into not sending a kill in but like... It really might affect my decision should I live that long.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:09 pm**

that was your 777th post, and while that's cool as hell, the next cool number isn't for another 6192 posts

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:10 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:09 pm that was your 777th post, and while that's cool as hell, the next cool number isn't for another 6192 posts

if i live through the night i might just get there

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:11 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:10 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:09 pm that was your 777th post, and while that's cool as hell, the next cool number isn't for another 6192 posts
if i live through the night i might just get there

all you need is a keyboard and a dream

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:15 pm**

rainbows are dreamlike, right?

dunya
Kyle
nutella
speedchuck
Quin
Long Con
DDL
sig
niju
Elohcin

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:17 pm**

Sloonei, do you think it's a mistake for me to put my LC suspicion on the back burner under the assumption that he's Space Mountain cus he wouldn't play the way he has as mafia and also cus of my Twin Peaks' style prophetic dream?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:18 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:17 pm Sloonei, do you think it's a mistake for me to put my LC suspicion on the back burner under the assumption that he's Space Mountain cus he wouldn't play the way he has as mafia and also cus of my Twin Peaks' style prophetic dream?

I think wilgy's ISO has evidence against Long Con being scum, so I don't object to removing him from the pool. I could see him as indie.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:31 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:57 pm Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.
Is "donthunk" supposed to be "do think" or "don't think"?

Sorry... posted in a hurry. Do.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:33 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:57 pm Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.
Is "donthunk" supposed to be "do think" or "don't think"?
Sorry... posted in a hurry. Do.

Thanks. What has changed in the last ~24 hours?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:34 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:17 pm Sloonei, do you think it's a mistake for me to put my LC suspicion on the back burner under the assumption that he's Space Mountain cus he wouldn't play the way he has as mafia and also cus of my Twin Peaks' style prophetic dream?
I think wilgy's ISO has evidence against Long Con being scum, so I don't object to removing him from the pool. I could see him as indie.

but mostly cus of the dream right?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:37 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:34 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:17 pm Sloonei, do you think it's a mistake for me to put my LC suspicion on the back burner under the assumption that he's Space Mountain cus he wouldn't play the way he has as mafia and also cus of my Twin Peaks' style prophetic dream?
I think wilgy's ISO has evidence against Long Con being scum, so I don't object to removing him from the pool. I could see him as indie.
but mostly cus of the dream right?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:56 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:33 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:57 pm Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.
Is "donthunk" supposed to be "do think" or "don't think"?
Sorry... posted in a hurry. Do.
Thanks. What has changed in the last ~24 hours?

Nothing. I just said I though your "let's name the reasons why people arw civ" idea was silly. We're just saying, hey mafia...night kill this one! I thought your exercise would hinder, instead of help, civs. So...I called you out on it. I don't care who you are...if I feel I see something that isn't helping the civs find scum... I'm going to say something

I also thought you telling bloop not to qorry about reading the thread was a hindrance as well. How can ahw help hunt if ahw doesn't know what's going on.

Also, I never totally confirmed you as town, btw. I said that the thread has pretty much confirmed you town. You're the most trusted player, I think. Why would a mafia player attack a vocal player who isn't going to get lynched and had supported her in the game?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:58 pm**

Sorry for the typos, I know I'm notorious for them. Fat fingers, small phone.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:16 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:33 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:59 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:57 pm Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.
Is "donthunk" supposed to be "do think" or "don't think"?
Sorry... posted in a hurry. Do.
Thanks. What has changed in the last ~24 hours?
Nothing. I just said I though your "let's name the reasons why people arw civ" idea was silly. We're just saying, hey mafia...night kill this one! I thought your exercise would hinder, instead of help, civs. So...I called you out on it. I don't care who you are...if I feel I see something that isn't helping the civs find scum... I'm going to say something

I also thought you telling bloop not to qorry about reading the thread was a hindrance as well. How can ahw help hunt if ahw doesn't know what's going on.

Also, I never totally confirmed you as town, btw. I said that the thread has pretty much confirmed you town. You're the most trusted player, I think. Why would a mafia player attack a vocal player who isn't going to get lynched and had supported her in the game?

I don't understand your mindset regarding the town read exercise (or Operation Trust Fall, as it's better known). How am I drawing a target on anyone when the object of the mini-game is to name everybody as town? By that logic, any speculation whatsoever is painting a target on the backs of any town reads.
How is niju supposed to help if she bothers herself to sit down to read 5000+ posts in the short window she has available to her? She's a school teacher. Let's not torture her. I think players in general are perfectly capable of making reads and having an impact if they just thrust themselves into the thread blind. I think that strategy would be better for a player in her shoes right now. You seemed to make the same encouragement ("I don't expect her to read ALL the pages..."), so I again am left wondering what exactly the nature of your objection is.

Lastly, you seem to be playing it off in this post as if you did not express suspicion of me for these things yesterday, but...:

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:55 am I'll extend that question to everyone, about everyone. I think this could be a useful exercise: in a brief answer, what reason do you have to read each player remaining in this game as town?
I think if I were to propose an idea like this I would be jumped on and lynched. However, with the way things are going, maybe ruling out those we trust will help us lynch scum. I just don't know. Gut tells me this approach is coming FROM scum to distract us from looking at clues in posts from those who have died recently.

This is a completely different objection than the one you just raised a moment ago.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:41 pm Man I woke up this morning thinking "hmm..... actually.... Sloonei is totally bad and has been playing us and I'm totally gonna vote for him" but apparently you guys think there's decent hints that cbob cop-checked him. Meh. Idk if I'm totally sold on that, but I'm also kinda tinfoiling hard rn and occam's razor is that Sloonei is town as town can be. Kyle is probably my next likely vote, but I haven't really figured out why I'm leaning that way either. Mostly I just feel way more lost as to who could be bad after the cbob flip than I have been for most of the game and I'm reconsidering some possibilities.

Sloonei, I don't really feel like doing your exercise and I honestly don't see how it's helpful. I don't think it's a helpful way of thinking about players or trying to solve the game. I'll just convince myself that everyone has some reason to be good and I'll never find scum that way. I'm not sure what you're getting out of this exercise but IMO people's answers so far have been total fluff and devoid of constructive gameplay. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe you're figuring out which players show a pattern of weakest/least reason to look civ, but I personally don't view this little game you set up as a particularly town way of solving the game. If anything it feels eerily similar to Jay urging everyone to do the GTHs, and he was bad.

What's your reasoning for looking at why people look town and figuring out which of those are weakest, instead of the other way around, looking at reasons everyone could look bad and seeing which are strongest?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:46 pm I agree with nutella that slooneis adventure to find civs is silly.

Not necessarily a declaration of suspicion, but given your previously established suspicion, and nutella's framing of her skepticism as basis for suspicious in the comment which you express agreement with here, I feel comfortable inferring here. Then, after all these dialogues that day:

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:16 pm Wow, I was gone a few hours and there hasn't been much talk. I said this already. I think we need to go back to where we were before all the CFD (I think that's what you would call what has happened in just about all, if not all our lynches). Its like we have our mind made up and and then it gets changed at the end. I'm up for voting sig, kyle, or quin. I think those were the ones who had cases against them which were forgotten in the CFDs. But most of all, I'm up for sloonei. I think he took us down a rabbit trail today and wasted our time as I thought would happen. I cannot stay up late. I will be voting within the next hour.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:35 pm Even though I would rather vote sloon, I went with quin because he already has a vote. I hate to do that, but as y'all can see... I have two votes. I cannot stay up any longer to help save myself, so I'll do what I can. I'm telling y'all... I think we are doing these bad lynches to ourselves. We have all these suspects and all of a sudden today you are going to decide to leave that behind and vote for me. This is not helping.

So you can't honestly tell me that "nothing" has changed, and your claims that your objections to my play were only philosophical, because it's impossible to read these posts as anything other than suspicion, and now that's completely vanished with you telling me it was never there in the first place. But I'm staring right at it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:29 pm**

I'm not catching up tonight. Too busy. Just so you all know.

If I die, do not waver. You are on a good track.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:38 pm**

I am also not catching up tonight, but here's a majestic marmot in the meantime:

To be fair, I'll never catch up, but I'll do something.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:40 pm**

is THAT what a marmot is?????

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:47 pm**

They're out everywhere in the summer where I live! So fat. So majestic. So derpy.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:49 pm**

Hmm.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:55 pm**

I spent a couple of weeks in Colorado during the summer a few years ago and I only saw one marmot, scurrying off the road as I drove by, the entire time I was there. Everyone hyped them up so much.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:57 pm**

how's it going, blooper? do you have any idea what is going on in this game right now?

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:01 am**

Oh, it's going. Only jumping into a game with 134 pages of posts, NBD

Yourself?

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:02 am**

Make that 135.

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:05 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:55 pm I spent a couple of weeks in Colorado during the summer a few years ago and I only saw one marmot, scurrying off the road as I drove by, the entire time I was there. Everyone hyped them up so much.

In August/September this year (I can't remember which), I was sitting in my car at work looking for something on my phone, when I noticed something pop up in front of me in my peripheral vision. I looked up, and nothing was there. Looked down, and it came back. Looked up, and there was a big fat marmot sniffing the air, then retreating, like a whack-a-mole. Best afternoon ever.

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:06 am**

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:01 am Oh, it's going. Only jumping into a game with 134 pages of posts, NBD Yourself?

I think I'm responsible for 100 of those pages

I already said that and got called out by Eloh for it, but you should not worry about trying to read all of that. If you want to make an impact on the game, I think your best bet is to just try to grasp what's going on right now and start kicking from there. just my two cents. thank you very much for stepping in at this stage of the game.

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:06 am**

Hey, [mention]nijuukyugou[/mention], are you mafia? I like your avatar.

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:08 am**

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:55 pm I spent a couple of weeks in Colorado during the summer a few years ago and I only saw one marmot, scurrying off the road as I drove by, the entire time I was there. Everyone hyped them up so much.
In August/September this year (I can't remember which), I was sitting in my car at work looking for something on my phone, when I noticed something pop up in front of me in my peripheral vision. I looked up, and nothing was there. Looked down, and it came back. Looked up, and there was a big fat marmot sniffing the air, then retreating, like a whack-a-mole. Best afternoon ever.

I did have the pleasure of watching a bunch of pikas chasing each other around at the end of my longest, highest hike of the trip. that was a great day.

Posted: **Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:09 am**

The Great Wave is like definitely in the top ten of best paintings, and also bloopers are probably in my personally curated top ten list of best video game squids.

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