Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 4]
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:33 pm
You're really serious about collecting votes!juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:26 pm I fell asleep, sorry.
@Quin and @Lady LambdaDelta, Nanook and/or Ty4on told us that in your other thread you were allowed to identify candidates to lynch as long as it was done in 3's. Who did you identify as lynch candidates D2 and D3? D3 is probably not as meaningful because there were only 5 people in your thread but I would like to know anyway. Note I am not asking you to share any private information, only what you made public.
No wait, it's not for tallies lol. I want to know what they were thinking and why.Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:36 pmYou're really serious about collecting votes!juliets wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:26 pm I fell asleep, sorry.
@Quin and @Lady LambdaDelta, Nanook and/or Ty4on told us that in your other thread you were allowed to identify candidates to lynch as long as it was done in 3's. Who did you identify as lynch candidates D2 and D3? D3 is probably not as meaningful because there were only 5 people in your thread but I would like to know anyway. Note I am not asking you to share any private information, only what you made public.
I feel like vanity becoming a lynch favourite happened pretty suddenly. I also think there's probably a good reason for that, and I support a vanity lynch. I guess it's status quo, but that phrase doesn't carry a lot of meaning for me - every lynch is its own organism with more factors than there are posts in the thread. Status quo came about for a reason.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:31 pmHow do you feel about Vanity becoming the current lynch favorite? Do you think it's become too status quo? Like, from your perspective, what's the status quo right now? And what kinda read do you think would go COMPLETELY against the status quo right now? I want you to play devil's advocate again.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:27 pm Hello, thread. First, I want to say that Ty4on's death was hilarious. Tragic and all, but he... just... got himself killed for a joke? I don't know. Never seen such a thing.
I see vanity is a current lynch favourite, not surprising. Just got home from work, and I'm going to a friend's house. So I'll catch y'all on the flippity-flop.
I don't know what I'm supposed to take away from this post. How do you...feel?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:45 pm Sorry I've been away. I'm going to get back into game mindset tonight.
I feel like vanity becoming a lynch favourite happened pretty suddenly. I also think there's probably a good reason for that, and I support a vanity lynch. I guess it's status quo, but that phrase doesn't carry a lot of meaning for me - every lynch is its own organism with more factors than there are posts in the thread. Status quo came about for a reason.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:31 pmHow do you feel about Vanity becoming the current lynch favorite? Do you think it's become too status quo? Like, from your perspective, what's the status quo right now? And what kinda read do you think would go COMPLETELY against the status quo right now? I want you to play devil's advocate again.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:27 pm Hello, thread. First, I want to say that Ty4on's death was hilarious. Tragic and all, but he... just... got himself killed for a joke? I don't know. Never seen such a thing.
I see vanity is a current lynch favourite, not surprising. Just got home from work, and I'm going to a friend's house. So I'll catch y'all on the flippity-flop.
Lynching Hyena or nutella would go against status quo the most, I think. Elephant/juliets is another factor going on that I don't really understand, but I think some people do. There's my Rebel Lynch Player Salad. Hyena, nutella, Elephant, and maybe juliets.
Why were you voting for a "rebel lynch" yesterday?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:45 pm Sorry I've been away. I'm going to get back into game mindset tonight.
I feel like vanity becoming a lynch favourite happened pretty suddenly. I also think there's probably a good reason for that, and I support a vanity lynch. I guess it's status quo, but that phrase doesn't carry a lot of meaning for me - every lynch is its own organism with more factors than there are posts in the thread. Status quo came about for a reason.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:31 pmHow do you feel about Vanity becoming the current lynch favorite? Do you think it's become too status quo? Like, from your perspective, what's the status quo right now? And what kinda read do you think would go COMPLETELY against the status quo right now? I want you to play devil's advocate again.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:27 pm Hello, thread. First, I want to say that Ty4on's death was hilarious. Tragic and all, but he... just... got himself killed for a joke? I don't know. Never seen such a thing.
I see vanity is a current lynch favourite, not surprising. Just got home from work, and I'm going to a friend's house. So I'll catch y'all on the flippity-flop.
Lynching Hyena or nutella would go against status quo the most, I think. Elephant/juliets is another factor going on that I don't really understand, but I think some people do. There's my Rebel Lynch Player Salad. Hyena, nutella, Elephant, and maybe juliets.
I was just answering Hyena's questions... I don't know why he asked them or what he wanted from the answers.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:48 pmI don't know what I'm supposed to take away from this post. How do you...feel?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:45 pm Sorry I've been away. I'm going to get back into game mindset tonight.
I feel like vanity becoming a lynch favourite happened pretty suddenly. I also think there's probably a good reason for that, and I support a vanity lynch. I guess it's status quo, but that phrase doesn't carry a lot of meaning for me - every lynch is its own organism with more factors than there are posts in the thread. Status quo came about for a reason.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:31 pmHow do you feel about Vanity becoming the current lynch favorite? Do you think it's become too status quo? Like, from your perspective, what's the status quo right now? And what kinda read do you think would go COMPLETELY against the status quo right now? I want you to play devil's advocate again.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:27 pm Hello, thread. First, I want to say that Ty4on's death was hilarious. Tragic and all, but he... just... got himself killed for a joke? I don't know. Never seen such a thing.
I see vanity is a current lynch favourite, not surprising. Just got home from work, and I'm going to a friend's house. So I'll catch y'all on the flippity-flop.
Lynching Hyena or nutella would go against status quo the most, I think. Elephant/juliets is another factor going on that I don't really understand, but I think some people do. There's my Rebel Lynch Player Salad. Hyena, nutella, Elephant, and maybe juliets.
Seemed like the right thing to do.Elephant wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:05 pmWhy were you voting for a "rebel lynch" yesterday?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:45 pm Sorry I've been away. I'm going to get back into game mindset tonight.
I feel like vanity becoming a lynch favourite happened pretty suddenly. I also think there's probably a good reason for that, and I support a vanity lynch. I guess it's status quo, but that phrase doesn't carry a lot of meaning for me - every lynch is its own organism with more factors than there are posts in the thread. Status quo came about for a reason.Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:31 pmHow do you feel about Vanity becoming the current lynch favorite? Do you think it's become too status quo? Like, from your perspective, what's the status quo right now? And what kinda read do you think would go COMPLETELY against the status quo right now? I want you to play devil's advocate again.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:27 pm Hello, thread. First, I want to say that Ty4on's death was hilarious. Tragic and all, but he... just... got himself killed for a joke? I don't know. Never seen such a thing.
I see vanity is a current lynch favourite, not surprising. Just got home from work, and I'm going to a friend's house. So I'll catch y'all on the flippity-flop.
Lynching Hyena or nutella would go against status quo the most, I think. Elephant/juliets is another factor going on that I don't really understand, but I think some people do. There's my Rebel Lynch Player Salad. Hyena, nutella, Elephant, and maybe juliets.
I have given a lot of my thoughts on vanity. Not a lot has changed since yesterday. His posts today are very similar to yesterday, defeated, not much left to say and rapidly losing interest in trying. If I knew him better, maybe I would know if it's a Civ tell or not. Would he defend harder as scum? You turned around to believing in him yesterday, and came in today more determined than ever to lynch him. That speaks to me.
What, today's posts? Substantiation?vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:56 pm reading long con's new posts... man there just isn't a lot of substantiation there. apparently i'm a favorite for being lynched for good reason? what is that good reason? because i feel like i've been plenty towny this game, somewhat out of knowing this just isn't how i'd wolf, regardless of what anyone thinks.
I'm not quite following. Are you saying you agree with my turnaround?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:56 pmI have given a lot of my thoughts on vanity. Not a lot has changed since yesterday. His posts today are very similar to yesterday, defeated, not much left to say and rapidly losing interest in trying. If I knew him better, maybe I would know if it's a Civ tell or not. Would he defend harder as scum? You turned around to believing in him yesterday, and came in today more determined than ever to lynch him. That speaks to me.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pmI'm not quite following. Are you saying you agree with my turnaround?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:56 pmI have given a lot of my thoughts on vanity. Not a lot has changed since yesterday. His posts today are very similar to yesterday, defeated, not much left to say and rapidly losing interest in trying. If I knew him better, maybe I would know if it's a Civ tell or not. Would he defend harder as scum? You turned around to believing in him yesterday, and came in today more determined than ever to lynch him. That speaks to me.
yes, "new" would imply today's posts.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:59 pmWhat, today's posts? Substantiation?vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:56 pm reading long con's new posts... man there just isn't a lot of substantiation there. apparently i'm a favorite for being lynched for good reason? what is that good reason? because i feel like i've been plenty towny this game, somewhat out of knowing this just isn't how i'd wolf, regardless of what anyone thinks.
K.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pmnutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pmI'm not quite following. Are you saying you agree with my turnaround?Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:56 pmI have given a lot of my thoughts on vanity. Not a lot has changed since yesterday. His posts today are very similar to yesterday, defeated, not much left to say and rapidly losing interest in trying. If I knew him better, maybe I would know if it's a Civ tell or not. Would he defend harder as scum? You turned around to believing in him yesterday, and came in today more determined than ever to lynch him. That speaks to me.Yes.
vanity, I'm trying to understand how the game's length would have affected you negatively. We are only on Day 4 - is that longer than your normal games? Or am I misunderstanding you?
I've given reasons why I suspect you in the past, and none of them were about how much I like you or being pessimistic. Not even about being gone for long periods.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pm like what are the legitimate reasons for why i'm a wolf? i still don't understand. because of my pessimistic attitude? because i sporadically decide to not play the game? actually what?
if you want to get me out of the game because you don't like me, then that's fine. i have no qualms over that. if my lynch is a net positive for the game health, then lynch away.
i posted that with complete awareness of the pun.
Elephant had some actual points on you besides this stuff. I know his original d2 case had some weaker points but he also had a nice wall post at the beginning of this phase that criticized your eod3 behavior. Also, Quin has reason to think iaafr is scum and you seem compatible there-- I know that's pretty weak in itself but it helps me feel like I have some theory of the game. If that's wrong help me see why.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pm like what are the legitimate reasons for why i'm a wolf? i still don't understand. because of my pessimistic attitude? because i sporadically decide to not play the game? actually what?
if you want to get me out of the game because you don't like me, then that's fine. i have no qualms over that. if my lynch is a net positive for the game health, then lynch away.
yes, it is longer than most games i've played. the only forum game i've played that's as long as this one is the champs wildcard 1 game. i'm very accustomed to fast pace games like 12/12 or turbos and such. most of my homesite plays games with 4-5 minute long days. just a difference of culture i suppose.
vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:01 pmyes, "new" would imply today's posts.Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:59 pmWhat, today's posts? Substantiation?vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:56 pm reading long con's new posts... man there just isn't a lot of substantiation there. apparently i'm a favorite for being lynched for good reason? what is that good reason? because i feel like i've been plenty towny this game, somewhat out of knowing this just isn't how i'd wolf, regardless of what anyone thinks.
the main things i'm just looking for is... actual reasoning. if you're going to go over your reads, actually show your thought process. that's what i mean.
I told you, I'll get more into playing tonight.
It's not that useful info
wtf? why in the world would i bash iaafr's reads and still call him town if i was his partner? that makes no sense to me, that's not how i'd interact with a partner. so no, that's not compatible.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:04 pmElephant had some actual points on you besides this stuff. I know his original d2 case had some weaker points but he also had a nice wall post at the beginning of this phase that criticized your eod3 behavior. Also, Quin has reason to think iaafr is scum and you seem compatible there-- I know that's pretty weak in itself but it helps me feel like I have some theory of the game. If that's wrong help me see why.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pm like what are the legitimate reasons for why i'm a wolf? i still don't understand. because of my pessimistic attitude? because i sporadically decide to not play the game? actually what?
if you want to get me out of the game because you don't like me, then that's fine. i have no qualms over that. if my lynch is a net positive for the game health, then lynch away.
Ok that helps me understand your attitude a little better.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:04 pmyes, it is longer than most games i've played. the only forum game i've played that's as long as this one is the champs wildcard 1 game. i'm very accustomed to fast pace games like 12/12 or turbos and such. most of my homesite plays games with 4-5 minute long days. just a difference of culture i suppose.
Just reminding here we lynched boo and got absolutely zero alignment info on anyonevanity. wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:59 pmi don't know creature's alignment. they're probably town but fmpov creature isn't confirmed town to me. so i don't know how trustworthy liberal can think my alignment means anything for creature's, it seems like a fake reason to push a mislynch. reads to me as exactly something carsongarden did as a wolf in my qualifier.juliets wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:56 pmI must have missed that. I don't understand what you're saying about Creature - town or wolf?
Wait your thread can flip too?
To distance without having to pretend you want to lynch him?? Makes total sense.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:06 pmwtf? why in the world would i bash iaafr's reads and still call him town if i was his partner? that makes no sense to me, that's not how i'd interact with a partner. so no, that's not compatible.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:04 pmElephant had some actual points on you besides this stuff. I know his original d2 case had some weaker points but he also had a nice wall post at the beginning of this phase that criticized your eod3 behavior. Also, Quin has reason to think iaafr is scum and you seem compatible there-- I know that's pretty weak in itself but it helps me feel like I have some theory of the game. If that's wrong help me see why.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pm like what are the legitimate reasons for why i'm a wolf? i still don't understand. because of my pessimistic attitude? because i sporadically decide to not play the game? actually what?
if you want to get me out of the game because you don't like me, then that's fine. i have no qualms over that. if my lynch is a net positive for the game health, then lynch away.
and quite frankly, i don't care about someone's case on me when they're probably a wolf. but you know, if you're going to keep me in the dark and just sheep him instead, fine.
you've even said at the start of the day that you think the only wolf is me. why do you think that? it's not elephant's d3 case, right? because if that's why, that's a contradiction.
Is it allowed to say if you had flipped any scum?Quin wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:11 pm cool well game layout when we first split off, as I understood it:
- 16 people in our thread, most of the game momentum carried over there it seems. This dropped to 5 people on the second day. Everyone is scattered atm.
- We had to send our votes in through PM
- We weren't allowed to publicly call votes, makes rainbow lists or make any inferences that would hint towards our vote (or reduce the suspect pool)
- We were allowed to make cases and stuff.
@Lady LambdaDelta can hopefully clarify or correct me in places. I've not really been around.
uh. no. if i'm going to distance from a partner, i'm going to actually distance, not some half-hearted "your reads suck but you're still town". in my opinion, that makes way more sense with me being a wolf and iaafr being v. my interactions don't make sense with iaafr as w/wnutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:10 pmTo distance without having to pretend you want to lynch him?? Makes total sense.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:06 pmwtf? why in the world would i bash iaafr's reads and still call him town if i was his partner? that makes no sense to me, that's not how i'd interact with a partner. so no, that's not compatible.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:04 pmElephant had some actual points on you besides this stuff. I know his original d2 case had some weaker points but he also had a nice wall post at the beginning of this phase that criticized your eod3 behavior. Also, Quin has reason to think iaafr is scum and you seem compatible there-- I know that's pretty weak in itself but it helps me feel like I have some theory of the game. If that's wrong help me see why.vanity. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:00 pm like what are the legitimate reasons for why i'm a wolf? i still don't understand. because of my pessimistic attitude? because i sporadically decide to not play the game? actually what?
if you want to get me out of the game because you don't like me, then that's fine. i have no qualms over that. if my lynch is a net positive for the game health, then lynch away.
and quite frankly, i don't care about someone's case on me when they're probably a wolf. but you know, if you're going to keep me in the dark and just sheep him instead, fine.
you've even said at the start of the day that you think the only wolf is me. why do you think that? it's not elephant's d3 case, right? because if that's why, that's a contradiction.
Why are you ignoring the wide acceptance that elephant is town?