The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:53 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:51 pm Cool. Your wrong. Next?

You're* =P

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:53 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:50 pm I don't believe Wilgy is a cop btw.

Town is now confirmed to have: an IC, a roleblocker, and a desperado.

Town has claimed: dayvig, doctor, and whatever Ender is, and whatever Poison is.

I don't think it also has a cop. And all of those claims are more believable than Wilgy's. And cop is what you claim when you're mech outed as scum.

doctor claimed? wtf is wrong with everyone and claiming first thing in the morning with no scum flips and absolutely no info from the town flips.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:54 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:51 pm Cool. Your wrong. Next?
You're* =P

lol

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm**

i have missed a bunch of the posts. i'll re read them now

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm**

Like actually,

"These two died before Wilgy and Wilgy is normally the misyeet, so he must be scum."

"Wilgy stopped posting when the heat got turned up on him" sorry I had to go help the fiance.

"Wilgy's claim (with no counter) when he was put under the barrel is likely to be a scum claim without any evidence or context otherwise outside this happens."

This is all so silly. What happened to you Alison? If you weren't wearing Mac's corpse I'd be calling you a wolf rn.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:53 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:51 pm Cool. Your wrong. Next?
You're* =P

Ah thanks. My bad.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:56 pm**

Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:50 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:48 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:46 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:44 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:42 pm why is everyone claiming wtf. STOP CLAIMING. WE BASICALLY KNOW NOTHING, NOT WITH NO ROLE FLIPS. more the claims easier the scums would get away no? what's going on?
What do you think now that Koba flipped green?
that i was wrong about reading his posts, and assumed I was targeted by S!Rb er because usually T!Rber does not reason out their actions that way, and I was not the suited person for T!RB er to target N1. What's up?
Why did you think you weren't suited to be an RB target? (I'll probably have to reread Koba's D1 suspicion.)
because there were more than a few Scummy people? Were you even reading the thread D1? Would you have chosen me as your N1 target if you were RBer? If yes why?

TBF, you weren't confirmed town. I can only say that you were in my nulls, but Koba might have had reason to target you besides other players. I did read the thread, just don't see why you would expect to not be N1 target.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:57 pm**

There's a number of people present right now.

I'd like their opinions on the alignment of Master Radishes.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:57 pm**

Oh, Wilgy is claimed cop.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:58 pm**

Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:53 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:50 pm I don't believe Wilgy is a cop btw.

Town is now confirmed to have: an IC, a roleblocker, and a desperado.

Town has claimed: dayvig, doctor, and whatever Ender is, and whatever Poison is.

I don't think it also has a cop. And all of those claims are more believable than Wilgy's. And cop is what you claim when you're mech outed as scum.
doctor claimed? wtf is wrong with everyone and claiming first thing in the morning with no scum flips and absolutely no info from the town flips.

Real talk i just wanted to cement my town cred and maybe secure being nk'd at some point so i can continue to slank

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:58 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm Like actually,

"These two died before Wilgy and Wilgy is normally the misyeet, so he must be scum."

"Wilgy stopped posting when the heat got turned up on him" sorry I had to go help the fiance.

"Wilgy's claim (with no counter) when he was put under the barrel is likely to be a scum claim without any evidence or context otherwise outside this happens."

This is all so silly. What happened to you Alison? If you weren't wearing Mac's corpse I'd be calling you a wolf rn.

Ender has claimed that his action might have stopped you from making a kill as wolf.

Cop is unlikely with what we know about the setup. I forgot to add that town also has a tree stump. There is simply too much town power, and the roles are too odd and intricate, for a plain cop to be a likely claim.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:59 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:57 pm There's a number of people present right now.

I'd like their opinions on the alignment of Master Radishes.

I hardly remember Radishes, but they're in POE for me.

Posted: **Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:59 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:57 pm There's a number of people present right now.

I'd like their opinions on the alignment of Master Radishes.

Wasn't he cleared? I was generally null on them but thought they earned a pass somewhere.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:58 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm Like actually,

"These two died before Wilgy and Wilgy is normally the misyeet, so he must be scum."

"Wilgy stopped posting when the heat got turned up on him" sorry I had to go help the fiance.

"Wilgy's claim (with no counter) when he was put under the barrel is likely to be a scum claim without any evidence or context otherwise outside this happens."

This is all so silly. What happened to you Alison? If you weren't wearing Mac's corpse I'd be calling you a wolf rn.
Ender has claimed that his action might have stopped you from making a kill as wolf.

Cop is unlikely with what we know about the setup. I forgot to add that town also has a tree stump. There is simply too much town power, and the roles are too odd and intricate, for a plain cop to be a likely claim.

Cop is unlikely? Bruh, see Urist's claim.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am**

We have a treestump? I guess that would make it too unbalanced to include a cop, with the various methods of townfirms available. Maybe.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am**

Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:03 am**

What the hell is treestump?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:03 am**

Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:56 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:50 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:48 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:46 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:44 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:42 pm why is everyone claiming wtf. STOP CLAIMING. WE BASICALLY KNOW NOTHING, NOT WITH NO ROLE FLIPS. more the claims easier the scums would get away no? what's going on?
What do you think now that Koba flipped green?
that i was wrong about reading his posts, and assumed I was targeted by S!Rb er because usually T!Rber does not reason out their actions that way, and I was not the suited person for T!RB er to target N1. What's up?
Why did you think you weren't suited to be an RB target? (I'll probably have to reread Koba's D1 suspicion.)
because there were more than a few Scummy people? Were you even reading the thread D1? Would you have chosen me as your N1 target if you were RBer? If yes why?
TBF, you weren't confirmed town. I can only say that you were in my nulls, but Koba might have had reason to target you besides other players. I did read the thread, just don't see why you would expect to not be N1 target.

D1 we had Sig, Syn, Scotty, Made [earlier- mid day] in the scum pile with many other slankers.
Even if I was not confirmed town, I was town read by many, the only people to scum read me were probably Scotty, Tutuu and idk maybe Ruri? None of them had made any proper case against me neither did they hard scum read me. I don't think choosing me as RB target was optimum for town in any way.

Koba chose me as RB target, as per his reason, because Mac called me a 3p once in the game and he sheeped his reads.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?

Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am**

what is a treestump

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?
Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?

Urist hardclaimed doctor.

The claim is believable.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am**

On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am**

Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:59 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:57 pm There's a number of people present right now.

I'd like their opinions on the alignment of Master Radishes.
I hardly remember Radishes, but they're in POE for me.

Yeah and you never explained why. YOu don't remember Radishes and he is in PoE.

LMAO

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:15 pm I'm just gonna claim because i stopped giving a fuck a long time ago. I'm a straightup doctor and I protected ted n1 and scotty n2. If someone else could have prevented the kill they should claim now bc they are probably the reason.

What other kinds of doctors are there besides "straightup?"

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:50 pm I don't believe Wilgy is a cop btw.

Town is now confirmed to have: an IC, a roleblocker, and a desperado.

Town has claimed: dayvig, doctor, and whatever Ender is, and whatever Poison is.

I don't think it also has a cop. And all of those claims are more believable than Wilgy's. And cop is what you claim when you're mech outed as scum.

true if you look at the thematics of the game no one has a direct clear, everyone has some sort of jank, it seems non standard

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?
Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?
Urist hardclaimed doctor.

The claim is believable.

Kind of, anyway. But still. Hardclaim doctor, plus all the shit we know exists and all the other claims on the table... a claimed cop is hard to believe.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:04 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:00 am Urist claimed doctor.

You think there's a doctor and a cop in the same setup? Plus all the other shit town has?
Urist was jank ass vote manipulation right?
Urist hardclaimed doctor.

The claim is believable.

Hmm. Ok. Regardless, that doesn't change jack.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am**

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.

Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:03 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:56 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:50 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:48 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:46 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:44 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:42 pm why is everyone claiming wtf. STOP CLAIMING. WE BASICALLY KNOW NOTHING, NOT WITH NO ROLE FLIPS. more the claims easier the scums would get away no? what's going on?
What do you think now that Koba flipped green?
that i was wrong about reading his posts, and assumed I was targeted by S!Rb er because usually T!Rber does not reason out their actions that way, and I was not the suited person for T!RB er to target N1. What's up?
Why did you think you weren't suited to be an RB target? (I'll probably have to reread Koba's D1 suspicion.)
because there were more than a few Scummy people? Were you even reading the thread D1? Would you have chosen me as your N1 target if you were RBer? If yes why?
TBF, you weren't confirmed town. I can only say that you were in my nulls, but Koba might have had reason to target you besides other players. I did read the thread, just don't see why you would expect to not be N1 target.
D1 we had Sig, Syn, Scotty, Made [earlier- mid day] in the scum pile with many other slankers.
Even if I was not confirmed town, I was town read by many, the only people to scum read me were probably Scotty, Tutuu and idk maybe Ruri? None of them had made any proper case against me neither did they hard scum read me. I don't think choosing me as RB target was optimum for town in any way.

Koba chose me as RB target, as per his reason, because Mac called me a 3p once in the game and he sheeped his reads.

Ah, I see. Forgot that 3p part. Hmm..

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:15 pm I'm just gonna claim because i stopped giving a fuck a long time ago. I'm a straightup doctor and I protected ted n1 and scotty n2. If someone else could have prevented the kill they should claim now bc they are probably the reason.
What other kinds of doctors are there besides "straightup?"

I missed this.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am**

cultural . Whjat is a treestump?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am**

Why did Urist protect ted Night 1?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am**

I am an IC. Poison is some sort of investigative role that can perceive what's going on with night actions. ted always green checks at least one person with his shot (himself or his target).

You don't think there's too many ways to clear people if we also add a straightup cop into the mix?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.
Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.

Ah, I see. Sigh.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.
Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.

There's usually a no double targeting rule that makes that combination feasible, so I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am**

Made wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:09 pm GTH, Michelle was healed by scum. No way town saves her here

what's the purpose of speculating this?
Let's say is true, it's Wifom anyway.
You said it like wolves can't frame a player to obtain an easy ML, it happened recently in Guillo's game where wolves flipped me red and made town to dig in my posts after spew when i was in fact villager.
This game is not bastard but it contains for sure mechanics we are not aware of

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am cultural . Whjat is a treestump?

A stupid name for an interesting role.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am cultural . Whjat is a treestump?

Towny that can still talk after they die.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am**

Also, I'd really like to look at Made. What's up with him

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:09 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am I am an IC. Poison is some sort of investigative role that can perceive what's going on with night actions. ted always green checks at least one person with his shot (himself or his target).

You don't think there's too many ways to clear people if we also add a straightup cop into the mix?

I mean EW claimed redirection that may make results funky. Who's to say that there isn't 1 to 2 more of these to balance the point and clicks? My N1 check did fail after all.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:10 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:58 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:55 pm Like actually,

"These two died before Wilgy and Wilgy is normally the misyeet, so he must be scum."

"Wilgy stopped posting when the heat got turned up on him" sorry I had to go help the fiance.

"Wilgy's claim (with no counter) when he was put under the barrel is likely to be a scum claim without any evidence or context otherwise outside this happens."

This is all so silly. What happened to you Alison? If you weren't wearing Mac's corpse I'd be calling you a wolf rn.
Ender has claimed that his action might have stopped you from making a kill as wolf.

Cop is unlikely with what we know about the setup. I forgot to add that town also has a tree stump. There is simply too much town power, and the roles are too odd and intricate, for a plain cop to be a likely claim.

lol same thought

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:10 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am
Made wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:09 pm GTH, Michelle was healed by scum. No way town saves her here
what's the purpose of speculating this?
Let's say is true, it's Wifom anyway.
You said it like wolves can't frame a player to obtain an easy ML, it happened recently in Guillo's game where wolves flipped me red and made town to dig in my posts after spew when i was in fact villager.
This game is not bastard but it contains for sure mechanics we are not aware of

Re: Made @Made Why do you think Town won't save her exactly? Can you recall people scum reading Michelle that they might avoid healing her?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:10 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:40 pm I have a crazy role, it fits really well into this madness game. Basically if the person i target is targeted by a killing action, i block the person who targeted my target, but i only block the killing part of their action

bruh. so this implies that mafia have multi dimensional abilities

so michelle could be the mafia poisoner who poisoned mac n1 and as a result poisoned herself, no?

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:12 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:45 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:42 pm why is everyone claiming wtf. STOP CLAIMING. WE BASICALLY KNOW NOTHING, NOT WITH NO ROLE FLIPS. more the claims easier the scums would get away no? what's going on?
Ok i rescind my claim

lmaooooooo

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am**

The other thing is that everyone has very complex, intricate abilities. Nobody has an ability that's just "you do this. The end."

Even simple roles like Urist's doctor role are carried out in weird ways like blocking the killer instead of healing the target. (Important for tracks, watches, BGs, lots of stuff.) My IC role has an additional component to it as well.

I dunno. Lots of stuff doesn't add up about this cop claim.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am I am an IC. Poison is some sort of investigative role that can perceive what's going on with night actions. ted always green checks at least one person with his shot (himself or his target).

You don't think there's too many ways to clear people if we also add a straightup cop into the mix?

I am neither accepting nor denying this, but I have more than once action, limited shots.

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:10 am
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:40 pm I have a crazy role, it fits really well into this madness game. Basically if the person i target is targeted by a killing action, i block the person who targeted my target, but i only block the killing part of their action
bruh. so this implies that mafia have multi dimensional abilities

so michelle could be the mafia poisoner who poisoned mac n1 and as a result poisoned herself, no?

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am**

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:13 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:08 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:06 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am On my homesite, a doctor and cop in the setup was standard. Any other roles were complementary. IC and desperado can townfirm, but desperado exchanges for a townfirm. In a way, a cop doesn't make much sense with this many townfirms available. But, I'm also not familiar with how this site balances things.

My homesite may have been unbalanced though, considering town always had night talks.
Doctor + Cop is a very very uncommon role combination on the Syndicate, for both balancing and cultural reasons.
There's usually a no double targeting rule that makes that combination feasible, so I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole.

I can consec target fwiw

Posted: **Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:14 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:43 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:40 pm I have a crazy role, it fits really well into this madness game. Basically if the person i target is targeted by a killing action, i block the person who targeted my target, but i only block the killing part of their action
I'm not as confident I blocked now.

ok so both u and urist targeted scotty

ur role takes precedence as u say

scotty was attacked

if wilgy was town he would have died (if ur role takes precedence over urist doctor)

if u know for a fact ur role resolves first - wilgy is mafia

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